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Title: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: geargirl on March 08, 2022, 06:35:21 PM
Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the likelihood that they will have an additional badge sale for SDCC. We have badges but some in our group did not get all days. I keep hoping.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: hikanteki on March 08, 2022, 06:47:15 PM
They said they wouldn’t.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: stl_ben on March 08, 2022, 07:04:55 PM
Most likely your only chance will be contests or auctions at this time.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on March 08, 2022, 07:11:12 PM
Some of us were talking about that possibility on the FOCC Hotel Exchange thread.

Right now, the consensus is that there will not be an additional sale for the 2022 show.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Mario Wario on March 08, 2022, 07:44:49 PM
Likelihood? None.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Islander009 on March 08, 2022, 08:35:44 PM
I believe they mentioned they wouldn’t have any additional badge sales. Plus with the dates coming up soon I don’t think it’s likely.


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Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on March 09, 2022, 11:03:21 AM
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Most likely your only chance will be contests or auctions at this time.

If they open up volunteering, that could be another option.

Volunteer for the dates you don't have a badge. 

That's always been my backup.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: geargirl on March 09, 2022, 11:33:24 AM
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Most likely your only chance will be contests or auctions at this time.

Do people just search for auctions. I always thought this was something that was not allowed.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on March 09, 2022, 12:50:15 PM
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Do people just search for auctions. I always thought this was something that was not allowed.

Don't look at auctions from third parties.  CCI auctioned off badges directly in 2019.  So only buy from the official comic-con account on ebay.

https://comic-con.org/toucan/comic-con-2019-badge-auction
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 09, 2022, 12:50:25 PM
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Do people just search for auctions. I always thought this was something that was not allowed.

The auctions are done by Comic-Con itself, usually to benefit the Comic-Con Museum. They've been selling a few pairs a year that way for a few years. Individual attendees are still not allowed to resell their badges.

ETA: Also, the badges they auction off this way are always for the full show, not single days, and often in pairs as well. Plus they always go for more than face value (sometimes not astronomical, but definitely not face value). So they're not really great option for anyone just trying to fill in days.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Michael M on March 09, 2022, 03:04:09 PM
It'll be interesting to see this year what they go for via ebay from their official account.  I remember one year they were in the thousands.  But I also remember seeing sales that went for a couple/few hundred too...
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: geargirl on March 09, 2022, 03:05:29 PM
Hello,

OK - I did not know this even existed. Do they announce it? I remember in the past having another badge sale later after the date when people could get a refund.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Michael M on March 09, 2022, 03:24:29 PM
This is their ebay page, you could probably follow them.


https://www.ebay.com/str/comicconinternational (https://www.ebay.com/str/comicconinternational)
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on March 09, 2022, 05:08:16 PM
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Hello,

OK - I did not know this even existed. Do they announce it? I remember in the past having another badge sale later after the date when people could get a refund.
I've been coming to Comic Con since 2015.  I've heard they stopped those sales since 2013/2014.  They didn't get enough cancellations to justify having another sale.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on March 09, 2022, 06:10:12 PM
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It'll be interesting to see this year what they go for via ebay from their official account.  I remember one year they were in the thousands.  But I also remember seeing sales that went for a couple/few hundred too...

In 2019, the winning bids started high.  Then there was a lull in the middle where the badges sold for less than face value.  The winning bids at the end went back up but not as high as they were at the start.  I don't think many people knew CCI was auctioning badges on ebay.  There were not that many bidders at all.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on March 09, 2022, 06:20:45 PM
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I've been coming to Comic Con since 2015.  I've heard they stopped those sales since 2013/2014.  They didn't get enough cancellations to justify having another sale.

Even if only 5-10% of people canceled, that's a lot of badges.  I thought CCI said that one of the reasons they held Turkeycon was because they needed money.  5,000 - 10,000 badges is a lot of money to forego.  Even a 1,000 badges is a lot of money.  Especially since the vast majority of costs will stay the same whether 10,000 more people attend or not.  It's pure profit.  Leaving that money on the table doesn't seem like a good idea.  Selling badges isn't that much of a hardship.  Selling stuff on ebay is easy.  Much smaller parties, even someone working solo out of their kitchen, sell stuff all the time.  Making a listing and then having people pickup badges onsite is not a lot of effort.  Or they could do what they did at Turkeycon, have onsite badge sales.  I think it would be better to sell badges in advance.  There's a much bigger audience for that than relying on foot traffic.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on March 09, 2022, 06:47:40 PM
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Even if only 5-10% of people canceled, that's a lot of badges.  I thought CCI said that one of the reasons they held Turkeycon was because they needed money.  5,000 - 10,000 badges is a lot of money to forego.  Even a 1,000 badges is a lot of money.  Especially since the vast majority of costs will stay the same whether 10,000 more people attend or not.  It's pure profit.  Leaving that money on the table doesn't seem like a good idea.  Selling badges isn't that much of a hardship.  Selling stuff on ebay is easy.  Much smaller parties, even someone working solo out of their kitchen, sell stuff all the time.  Making a listing and then having people pickup badges onsite is not a lot of effort.  Or they could do what they did at Turkeycon, have onsite badge sales.  I think it would be better to sell badges in advance.  There's a much bigger audience for that than relying on foot traffic.

Could things change?  Absolutely. CCI can do whatever they want.

But,...

1.  Over the past 2 years, they have repeatedly said they are not going to have another sale.

2.   I attended the talk back at CCSE, and they were pretty emphatic that the July show was sold out.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: alyssa on March 09, 2022, 07:48:12 PM
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Could things change?  Absolutely. CCI can do whatever they want.

But,...

1.  Over the past 2 years, they have repeatedly said they are not going to have another sale.

2.   I attended the talk back at CCSE, and they were pretty emphatic that the July show was sold out.
here's a link to a voice recording for the talkback at SE
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mcclDTq5Sy6ypvnEBhncAqDOhrBY4nfe/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: perc2100 on March 10, 2022, 09:46:10 AM
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Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the likelihood that they will have an additional badge sale for SDCC. We have badges but some in our group did not get all days. I keep hoping.
HIGHLY doubt it.  Not only have CCI (I think?) said there would be no additional sales for 2022 (due to the likely vast majority of folks who just rolled-over their badges from 2020), but I suspect that the few refunds they've issues for badges will likely just mean slightly less people on the floor: not necessarily a bad thing, IMO since we're in a pandemic (or 'endemic' as some folks are saying)
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on March 11, 2022, 04:38:06 AM
First 2022 Badge 'Contest'?

CCI giving away 4 sets of badges if you're going to Wondercon and booking hotel thru on-peak

https://comic-con.org/wca/hotels

If you read all the terms and conditions, you can actually enter the contest by mail

"Participants may also enter the giveaway pool without meeting the above automatic entry criteria by sending a letter via US Mail to CCI WonderCon Hotel Incentive, PO Box 128458, San Diego, CA 92112, including your name, address, telephone number, email address, and SDCC Member ID.  All mailed entries must be received by April 10, 2022. Only one submission per person. Incomplete submissions will be discarded and cannot be considered for or entered into the giveaway pool.  Winners must be 18 or older.  Void where prohibited."
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sefton42 on March 11, 2022, 07:56:22 PM
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I've been coming to Comic Con since 2015.  I've heard they stopped those sales since 2013/2014.  They didn't get enough cancellations to justify having another sale.

It was 2012.  That was my first year going, I only got Thurs/Sun in the general sake, added all of the other days in the refund sale (which was on a weekday, not a weekend like their usual sales).  And that was the last time they did the refund sale.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on March 12, 2022, 12:46:52 PM
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It was 2012.  That was my first year going, I only got Thurs/Sun in the general sake, added all of the other days in the refund sale (which was on a weekday, not a weekend like their usual sales).  And that was the last time they did the refund sale.

so i'm curious...

How was the refund sale organized.  Did they have the blue circle.  Were there restrictions around who could participate.  How long did it last?
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sefton42 on March 12, 2022, 12:54:22 PM
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so i'm curious...

How was the refund sale organized.  Did they have the blue circle.  Were there restrictions around who could participate.  How long did it last?

They didn’t have the blue circle back then, at that point it was still first in first out.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 12, 2022, 02:17:10 PM
Yeah, I remember one year the badge resale was in June. I had a friend who didn't have a badge, and she was working the day they held it. And CCI didn't announce the time, only said that it would be sometime that day. I think they announced on FB with less than 1 hour's notice. So I monitored FB all day, and when it went live, I mashed the button and got in there and managed to grab her a PN badge. I was so proud of myself!

Ahhh.... the good old days... ;)
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: jeffa on March 20, 2022, 06:12:32 AM
Eventually they stabilized at just above regular price for 4 days+PN per badge, with proceeds to charity. If it's like other cons, I expect they're trying to reduce attendance a bit, and almost everybody rolled over their 2020 badges. Some people might not attend if studios and other content providers bypass "you gotta be there in Hall H" to promote their own events. If virus concerns are low as we get closer, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some late auctions.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on March 20, 2022, 12:54:42 PM
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Some people might not attend if studios and other content providers bypass "you gotta be there in Hall H" to promote their own events. If virus concerns are low as we get closer, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some late auctions.

That's the chicken and the egg problem.  Without a lot of attendees, then studios won't come like they used to.  Without studios coming, then there won't be a lot of attendees like there used to.  That's why Turkeycon didn't sell out.  Late badge sales won't effect that since by then it'll be too late for studios to come.  Let's see how many studios come this year.  I do think there will be auctions or on site badge sales.  At this point, I don't see why there won't be considering they had auctions in 2019.  While many people rolled over, there can only be more cancellations now than there were in 2019.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: jeffa on March 20, 2022, 04:14:06 PM
It's only partly chicken and egg. Even before 2020, studios and networks sometimes bypassed SDCC to promote their own events, and during Covid they worked on their publicity "networks". The Hall H Saturday schedule even was missing traditional pieces. There's a nice lead article in this month's Entertainment Weekly magazine: "Why should we go to San Diego when people will come to us?" Disney would like to make Marvel and Star Wars audiences even more captive. DC established FanDome and NBCUniversal has worked on their own focused Con. Of course, one of the beauties of Comic Con was that they had to face the competition. And even if SDCC is missing a panel or two, the big companies usually have something special in the Exhibit Hall. Most of the "medium" companies show up and sometimes steal the show. I'm partial to Artist Alley, writers, and vendors; popular culture is more than media and San Diego's strengths include diversity. You can't beat the gathering of fans!
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on April 17, 2022, 11:47:40 PM
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Could things change?  Absolutely. CCI can do whatever they want.

But,...

1.  Over the past 2 years, they have repeatedly said they are not going to have another sale.

2.   I attended the talk back at CCSE, and they were pretty emphatic that the July show was sold out.

Right before Wondercon, David Glanzer gave an interview and discussed this.  He said it is something they were going to look into.

"Of course 2020 came with the worldwide pandemic so we had to cancel the show so those tickets rolled over to 2021 and then we had to cancel 2021. Those tickets rolled over to 2022. So right now the show is technically sold out. As we wrap, WonderCon will look more fully into Comic-Con and decide if there's something that we can do."

https://www.kpbs.org/news/arts-culture/2022/03/31/wondercon-is-back-in-person-this-weekend
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on April 18, 2022, 06:23:38 AM
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Right before Wondercon, David Glanzer gave an interview and discussed this.  He said it is something they were going to look into.

"Of course 2020 came with the worldwide pandemic so we had to cancel the show so those tickets rolled over to 2021 and then we had to cancel 2021. Those tickets rolled over to 2022. So right now the show is technically sold out. As we wrap, WonderCon will look more fully into Comic-Con and decide if there's something that we can do."

https://www.kpbs.org/news/arts-culture/2022/03/31/wondercon-is-back-in-person-this-weekend

At the Wondercon Talk Back David Glanzer cracked open the door of a possible sale of 2022 tickets.  The President, Robin Dolan, sort of corrected him to say there wouldn't be a sale.  It was almost as if he 'forgot' that they've said there won't be a sale for 2022.  Yes, technically the show is sold out.  This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the only way they have another sale for 2022 is if they offer another refund option.  Just my speculation.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: lowgun on April 18, 2022, 07:31:16 AM
What do you mean another refund option. The site says you can still do a refund until May 1 2022
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sessionka on April 18, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
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What do you mean another refund option. The site says you can still do a refund until May 1 2022

Sorry about that.  I didn't do my research.   :)

So, we might know something after May 1, 2022. 
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on April 18, 2022, 11:28:21 PM
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At the Wondercon Talk Back David Glanzer cracked open the door of a possible sale of 2022 tickets.  The President, Robin Dolan, sort of corrected him to say there wouldn't be a sale.  It was almost as if he 'forgot' that they've said there won't be a sale for 2022.  Yes, technically the show is sold out.  This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the only way they have another sale for 2022 is if they offer another refund option.  Just my speculation.

IMO, it's telling that he says it's "technically sold out".  What happens a lot of the time when a statement is couched that way?  It's followed up with a "but".

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What do you mean another refund option. The site says you can still do a refund until May 1 2022

That's what I think they are waiting for.  The refund period hasn't even closed yet.  They still don't know how many cancellations they will have.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chirigami on April 24, 2022, 03:14:43 PM
It would be interesting if they decide to do a refund sale like from years past but it could also be nice to have a smaller attendance level?  Covid being a thing still as a reason and also just in general, no insane lines for panels? (a girl can dream?)  I also wouldn't mind, for purely selfish reasons, if they did like a resale for people already with badges to fill up their days.  Like, my group is missing Saturday, we can buy Saturday. 
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: epicaz on April 24, 2022, 03:22:03 PM
Of all times for them to have a resale.. I don't know why or how they aren't *this* year. Surely there are enough refunds in the last 2 years to warrant a proper leftover sale instead of an auction?

Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Michael M on April 24, 2022, 03:37:02 PM
To the above point, they might not and consider that a way to have a "smaller" scale attend...it'd be an easy way to have the numbers lessen w/o doing any extra work.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: epicaz on April 24, 2022, 04:07:39 PM
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To the above point, they might not and consider that a way to have a "smaller" scale attend...it'd be an easy way to have the numbers lessen w/o doing any extra work.

While those of us attending won't mind less crowds, I just figured it'd be a financial benefit considering their disposition
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: sefton42 on April 24, 2022, 04:18:45 PM
I’d be shocked if they had a refund rate above 1%.  There’s still a cost to doing a badge sale.  The marginal benefit may not be worthwhile.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Michael M on April 24, 2022, 04:19:43 PM
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While those of us attending won't mind less crowds, I just figured it'd be a financial benefit considering their disposition
It's an interesting situation. I mean, I can see that that's why they did TurkeyCon...I remember reading on the board here somewhere that CCI had funds to miss a con for one year, but not two, so TC helped them start putting money back in the coffers.


This year's gonna be so weird...not just for the obvious reasons, but how CCI will adapt and pull off a show of this magnitude.  This has always been the bar to be measured by, so I'm very interested in how they respond.


This year, prolly more than all others, warrants hitting the Talkback session on Sunday.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on April 24, 2022, 07:00:30 PM
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Covid being a thing still as a reason and also just in general, no insane lines for panels? (a girl can dream?)

But that would also probably mean there won't be panels to justify insane lines.  Look at Turkeycon.  No insane lines because there were no panels worth an insane line.

I think SDCC needs to come back with a bang.  This con will make a statement.  I don't think they want that statement to be low attendance.  Especially coming off of Turkeycon.  Remember when it was first announced that we were warned that there would be more people who wanted to attend then they could accommodate.  In the end, it was the opposite of that.  Supply exceeded demand.

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I’d be shocked if they had a refund rate above 1%.  There’s still a cost to doing a badge sale.  The marginal benefit may not be worthwhile.

I'd be shocked if it was only 1%.  David Glazner's statement doesn't seem to line up with that.  Why would they be considering it if it wasn't already high enough to be worthwhile.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chirigami on April 24, 2022, 08:06:34 PM
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But that would also probably mean there won't be panels to justify insane lines.  Look at Turkeycon.  No insane lines because there were no panels worth an insane line.

I think SDCC needs to come back with a bang.  This con will make a statement.  I don't think they want that statement to be low attendance.  Especially coming off of Turkeycon.  Remember when it was first announced that we were warned that there would be more people who wanted to attend then they could accommodate.  In the end, it was the opposite of that.  Supply exceeded demand.

I'd be shocked if it was only 1%.  David Glazner's statement doesn't seem to line up with that.  Why would they be considering it if it wasn't already high enough to be worthwhile.
A very good point.  Wanting that buzz, having that big grand scale they had in the before times and almost being a benchmark to people of "things going back to normal" so to speak.  Cons everywhere having been going full force, so why can't they?

But also to that measure, they used to have very big and successful panels that didn't have the long lines and staying overnight (I mean, these were also the years of buying the badges for next year at the con).  But, one year... it just escalated and the hype machine happened and it just feels like the studios latched on because they could get the buzz and turn the hyperbole that is SDCC into what it is.

In the end, its tough to say if CCI wants that again, or at least a little bit of it given the times.  We're not them xD  I sadly didn't pay much attention to TurkeyCon but that was also during a spike... maybe the studios themselves didn't want to risk it which is why they didn't bring anything, or they didn't have anything, or it was really soon, or the poor timing since it was a massive American holiday.  The studios and anyone bringing something to SDCC this year could still have apprehensions, they don't want to be a headline that they caused another spike or they are willing to risk it.  Or the studios could also be like now, hey we can release stuff on our own without these cons (looks at E3, it dead).

Again, a slightly smaller con attendance could be nice like back in the day where you felt you could do stuff without sleeping overnight (after spending so much on a hotel xD) while having interesting things to actually do which also makes SDCC what it is.  A little having cake and eating it too? Maybe.  Wishful thinking for the most part and we'll see what they do in the coming months.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: marcia29 on April 25, 2022, 01:28:24 AM
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It would be interesting if they decide to do a refund sale like from years past but it could also be nice to have a smaller attendance level?  Covid being a thing still as a reason and also just in general, no insane lines for panels? (a girl can dream?)  I also wouldn't mind, for purely selfish reasons, if they did like a resale for people already with badges to fill up their days.  Like, my group is missing Saturday, we can buy Saturday.

I really like the fill in days sale idea!
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: alyssa on April 25, 2022, 08:30:11 AM
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This year, prolly more than all others, warrants hitting the Talkback session on Sunday.
I'm sure there will be recording of it too. I know I will be recording it.
all tho, they do actively listen to constructive suggestions and folks are able to fully flush out the idea/suggestion.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Namron83 on April 25, 2022, 11:49:35 AM
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It would be interesting if they decide to do a refund sale like from years past but it could also be nice to have a smaller attendance level?  Covid being a thing still as a reason and also just in general, no insane lines for panels? (a girl can dream?)  I also wouldn't mind, for purely selfish reasons, if they did like a resale for people already with badges to fill up their days.  Like, my group is missing Saturday, we can buy Saturday. 
If they're trying to get as much as they can, they'll probably sell some of eBay again, which I hope they don't.
I'll be selfish too and hope that if they offer more days, it'll only be for current attendees only. Best to offer days to those who are already attending than to bring in more people who are not. All the badges will sell regardless.
Anyways, to my surprise I found out the other day that we have Fri and Sat badges. We've been under the impression that we had Fri and Sunday for almost 2 years aha
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: marcia29 on April 26, 2022, 04:17:23 PM
Just saw this on the badge info page:

As was done in 2019, canceled and returned Comic-Con 2022 badges may be made available to the general public through a badge auction to help raise funds for the Comic-Con Museum at a later date. 
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: tsnyder on April 27, 2022, 08:13:40 AM
Even if 10% of people ended up getting refunds think we will actually be able to tell any difference at the con? 
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 27, 2022, 10:44:21 AM
My understanding was that in recent years, refunds had been going to pros, industry and press who were on a waitlist. 
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: jamiesugah on April 27, 2022, 11:13:48 AM
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Even if 10% of people ended up getting refunds think we will actually be able to tell any difference at the con?

I feel like that depends on what the rest of the con looks like. The reduced crowd at NYCC last year was very noticeable, mostly because so many exhibitors sat out.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: chocolateshake on April 27, 2022, 10:13:42 PM
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Just saw this on the badge info page:

As was done in 2019, canceled and returned Comic-Con 2022 badges may be made available to the general public through a badge auction to help raise funds for the Comic-Con Museum at a later date. 

:)
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: RighteousRita on June 20, 2022, 07:17:16 AM
Check your SDCC ID. Tracking info is available for your badges.
Title: Re: 2022 Badge Sale
Post by: Eric_Draven66 on June 21, 2022, 06:54:47 PM
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Hi SDCC Folks
I'm looking to purchase a guest badge for SDCC 4 DAYS+Preview. Does anyone happen to have an extra guess pass.

No such thing as a guest pass. all badges are with name and if someone sales it both people will be ban for life so no one is going to take that risk. your only option is to buy one if they go up for auction or wait till next year.