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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2020, 11:27:34 AM »
I'm curious if they'd roll badges over again or just refund everyone. Can't keep rolling them forever  :-X

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2020, 12:09:13 PM »
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They just canceled CES 2021

Yikes, the first truly big convention cancelation for 2021.

With a similar 5 1/5 month lead time, we would theoretically know SDCC 2021's fate by early February.
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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2020, 12:25:03 PM »
I think if 2021 is cancelled, it'll be a mass refund with no option of rollover and 2022 will be a completely new sale with a drastically reduced number of badges. I wouldn't be surprised if they go that route regardless of getting a green light to have the convention next year - I don't expect attendance to be what it was in previous years anytime into the foreseeable future.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2020, 12:52:54 PM »
I was surprised that CCI rolled over this year's badges.  IMO, it didn't make sense for them to have that liability on the books.  Especially since they don't know what form any future convention will take and thus they don't know how much it will cost.  Say it costs $100/per person per day to put on the convention in 2021 due to the added cost of new measures and lower attendance, how can they honor a badge they sold for $69?  There's too much that's unknown to commit to that.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2020, 01:25:44 PM »
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I was surprised that CCI rolled over this year's badges.  IMO, it didn't make sense for them to have that liability on the books. 


But that liability might be exactly why they rolled it over... if the money was already spent on some level they simply didn't have the cash to process that many returns.
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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2020, 01:38:19 PM »
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But that liability might be exactly why they rolled it over... if the money was already spent on some level they simply didn't have the cash to process that many returns.

I think they did.  According to reporting, the reason the official cancellation took so long was that they needed the time to get released from contracts without penalties.  From the convention center, from hotels, from whoever.

Also it's been reported that CCI saved up money just for this possibility.  So they would have the money to ride out an unforeseen cancellation.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2020, 03:04:59 PM »
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I'm curious if they'd roll badges over again or just refund everyone. Can't keep rolling them forever  :-X

While I agree...for myself, I'd personally be okay with them rolling them over every year until it comes back.

ETA: Rolling things over until at least 2022 is feasible. Star Wars Celebration got pushed to 2022 and many people chose to roll over. The difference is they have no 2021, but it is showing that there are people who don't mind their paid bages being rolled over until 2022.
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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2020, 04:44:42 PM »
Can Comic-Con require proof of vaccination as a requirement for attendance?  If so, and IF there is a viable vaccine by the end of the year, I vote yes.  But I think Wondercon in March is unlikely and losing three shows will really hurt CCI financially.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2020, 06:52:10 PM »
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They just canceled CES 2021, I doubt any big conventions in 2021, but I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2020, 07:03:53 PM »
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I think they did.  According to reporting, the reason the official cancellation took so long was that they needed the time to get released from contracts without penalties.  From the convention center, from hotels, from whoever.

Also it's been reported that CCI saved up money just for this possibility.  So they would have the money to ride out an unforeseen cancellation.

i think i remember cci saying, the money they would have collected in 2020 would pay for 2022 con. It follows that they had ~ two years for an in-person con (since most everyone rolled over) AND an extra year of interest.
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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2020, 07:21:25 PM »
I’m skeptical too unfortunately. I tried to be hopeful but as others stated, it’s a dumpster fire here. I read health experts don’t expect a vaccine available and things going back to (somewhat) normal until the last quarter of 2021. But as stated millions won’t take the vaccine so I don’t even know.

It was good while it lasted anyway?

I don’t know if CCI can afford to miss another year either especially with the museum

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2020, 07:25:10 PM »
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I was surprised that CCI rolled over this year's badges.  IMO, it didn't make sense for them to have that liability on the books.  Especially since they don't know what form any future convention will take and thus they don't know how much it will cost.  Say it costs $100/per person per day to put on the convention in 2021 due to the added cost of new measures and lower attendance, how can they honor a badge they sold for $69?  There's too much that's unknown to commit to that.

It was earlier on when things didn’t look as bad? Now all the huge cases are in the South and all over. Before it seemed as shutting down some areas would help contain it. Before all the protests and stuff...they were probably more hopeful there would be a next year.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2020, 04:41:24 PM »
Deep (depressed) breath...

This is a tough one.  It's pretty clear in the United States that our current Federal Government is worthless, has no national plan, and is leaving it up to states (and politics) to decide how to handle things.  This will go on until at least January, and I honestly don't see USA getting out of "Wave 1" anytime before then.  It's so frustrating to know that beating this back, even w/out a vaccine, is incredibly doable: just see New Zealand completely beat it down to 0 new cases thanks to aggressive shutdowns & government financial assistance to weather the storm.  _IF_ US elects a new POTUS and _IF_ that POTUS enacts a more aggressive policy Day 1 (or, to be blunt, any policy which would be better than the lack-of Federal national policy we currently have), then _maybe_ things could be OK by next July.

To be super blunt, America has proven to be a selfish, entitled, incredibly misguided nation of people (or, really, at least half of the political persuasion).  We have a political party (ruling the Senate & POTUS) that scoffs at science and experts, thinks wearing a mask in a pandemic is tyranny, and just doesn't seem to care about the rest of the people in the country.  Even with a strong Federal plan enacted in January, I'm worried the opposition party would still rebel hard. 
BUT, it's my sincere hope that with a POTUS that isn't a raving lunatic, one that speaks with empathy and understanding and compassion, can speak to the majority of the country and help change the culture enough.  I'm not voting at this time, partly because I'm in a dark place mood-wise, partly because I honestly have no idea at this time.  Regardless of what I say above, I am optimistic for 2021 (I feel like I have to be...)

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2020, 04:43:32 PM »
This thread is becoming way too political.

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Re: Poll: The Status of SDCC 2021 (In Light of the Pandemic)
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2020, 05:00:20 PM »
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This thread is becoming way too political.

I created the post at the risk of it potentially becoming that, but admittedly, the issues affecting the status of SDCC 2021 are somewhat political, whether we like it or not.

That said, this is certainly not the place to hold a Biden vs. Trump vs. whomever else debate :)
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