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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1200 on: July 22, 2021, 11:32:06 AM »
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I was thinking about seatbelts the other day and how back in the 80s a lot of people didn't wear them.  Now it's just habit and feels weird not to wear one.
I was dopey as a youngin' (HS & college).  After hearing a story from George Lucas about how as a kid he was in a serious car accident that threw him from the car before it smashed into a tree or something, and my (dumb) takeaway was "if he'd been wearing a seatbelt there would be no Star Wars!"  But I did comply back then because I didn't want to add $$ to whatever ticket I'd be getting when pulled over (in OH growing up, cops couldn't pull you over JUST for not wearing a seatbelt; my dad, who worked with law enforcement is career, once said that if one was polite and compliant w/cops when pulled over for speeding you'd have a decent shot of getting out of a ticket but if you also were not wearing a seatbelt it would give the cops more reason to throw the book at ya).  I remember when those laws went into effect, and hearing adults complain about seatbelts as if it were some monumental hardship; for a time in the late 80's, "automatic seatbelts" were a thing in cars, to make it even easier for people to be legally compliant/safe(r), though I suspect they did little in an impact and that's why you don't see em anymore

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1201 on: July 22, 2021, 07:26:03 PM »
Israel released updated numbers this week.  The news is getting worse as they get more data.  The efficacy rate of fully vaccinated, 2 dose of BioNTech/Pfizer, is down to "39% effective against infection, while being only 41% effective in preventing symptomatic COVID."  That's 20% lower than it was 2 weeks ago.  Importantly, that's an average.  The efficacy rate is much lower for people that were vaccinated early, "People vaccinated in January were said to have just 16% protection against infection now, while in those vaccinated in April, effectiveness was at 75%."  Their data is showing a convincing argument for waning immunity.  This is why Pfizer says we should get a third dose.

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Also, LA says now that 20% of new covid cases are vaccinated.  That's a pretty high number considering those people should be symptomatic.  Since the policy in the US is if you are vaccinated and don't have symptoms then you shouldn't be tested.  The infection rate has to be higher.

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This is so frustrating.  Last year we saw covid coming and did not much of anything.  We doubted it would be that bad.  A couple of months we saw Delta coming on like a freight train and we did less than nothing.  We again doubted it would be that bad.  This time instead of preparing for it, we gave up our most effective countermeasure.  We gave up masking.  We don't learn.  The last Surgeon General has admitted it was a mistake for him and others to tell people they didn't need to wear masks last year.  He says it was a mistake for the CDC to tell people to stop wearing masks this year.

I'm fully vaccinated.  I never stopped wearing my mask.  I'm seriously considering going back into self imposed lockdown.  I won't risk my parents and my grandmother.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1202 on: July 23, 2021, 02:48:53 PM »
A staggering new number of covid cases will be published this afternoon for San Diego.  A month ago when CA dropped the mask requirement, we were hovering at around 100 new cases a day.  By a week ago, we were hovering at around 500 new cases a day.  Today there are 1,264 new cases for the last 24 hour period.  That's back to the number of cases we had during the back end of the winter surge.  Importantly we aren't testing nearly as much as we were 6 months ago.  So there are probably many cases going undetected.  Of these known cases, 11% are the fully vaccinated.  I think I'll switch back to a N95.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1203 on: July 23, 2021, 03:24:33 PM »
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A staggering new number of covid cases will be published this afternoon for San Diego.  A month ago when CA dropped the mask requirement, we were hovering at around 100 new cases a day.  By a week ago, we were hovering at around 500 new cases a day.  Today there are 1,264 new cases for the last 24 hour period.  That's back to the number of cases we had during the back end of the winter surge.  Importantly we aren't testing nearly as much as we were 6 months ago.  So there are probably many cases going undetected.  Of these known cases, 11% are the fully vaccinated.  I think I'll switch back to a N95.

Aww geez.  We basically only have 4 months to get things under control before turkey day and it goes defcon 1 again.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1204 on: July 23, 2021, 04:04:25 PM »
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Aww geez.  We basically only have 4 months to get things under control before turkey day and it goes defcon 1 again.

I don't want to sound like a Negative Nancy, but I'm not even really thinking about Comic-Con Special Edition anymore.  Realistically I think there's very little chance of that happening.

I'm worried about WonderCon and Comic-Con 2022. 

Wow.  This sucks.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1205 on: July 23, 2021, 05:19:36 PM »
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I don't want to sound like a Negative Nancy, but I'm not even really thinking about Comic-Con Special Edition anymore.  Realistically I think there's very little chance of that happening.

I'm worried about WonderCon and Comic-Con 2022. 

Wow.  This sucks.

Yeah, my concern is when everyone starts travelling for the holidays all hell is going to break loose.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1206 on: July 23, 2021, 08:10:33 PM »
It seems that even as the Biden administration was publicly rebuking Pfizer for bringing up a third dose, it was working behind the scenes to follow Pfizer's recommendation.  The US has already exercised an option to buy another 200 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine.  Now the leaks coming out of the administration are that it's preparing to give a third dose to the vulnerable including people 65 and over.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1207 on: July 23, 2021, 09:31:28 PM »
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Yeah, my concern is when everyone starts traveling for the holidays all hell is going to break loose.

The New York Comic-Con is going to be another test (If they even have it).  That has the potential to be a mother of a super-spreader.

Wow.  This really, really sucks.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1208 on: July 25, 2021, 05:38:33 PM »
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"People vaccinated in January were said to have just 16% protection against infection now, while in those vaccinated in April, effectiveness was at 75%."

This time instead of preparing for it, we gave up our most effective countermeasure.  We gave up masking.  We don't learn.  The last Surgeon General has admitted it was a mistake for him and others to tell people they didn't need to wear masks last year.  He says it was a mistake for the CDC to tell people to stop wearing masks this year.

I guess it was a good thing me and my family were not among the first people and that we didn’t get ours until Spring.

I blame the anti-maskers and people who were against lockdowns for us opening before we were ready.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1209 on: July 25, 2021, 09:04:32 PM »
I read the worst place to be is in a plane, followed by a bar.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1210 on: July 26, 2021, 02:04:53 AM »
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I don't want to sound like a Negative Nancy, but I'm not even really thinking about Comic-Con Special Edition anymore.  Realistically I think there's very little chance of that happening.

It‘s not going to happen and even if it does, I’m not going.  I agree even 2022 is now in doubt.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1211 on: July 26, 2021, 02:06:23 AM »
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The New York Comic-Con is going to be another test (If they even have it).  That has the potential to be a mother of a super-spreader.

Glad I didn’t get my ticket.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1212 on: July 26, 2021, 02:07:35 AM »
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Yeah, my concern is when everyone starts travelling for the holidays all hell is going to break loose.

I’m staying home for Thanksgiving and Christmas like last year.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1213 on: July 26, 2021, 06:03:09 AM »
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I read the worst place to be is in a plane, followed by a bar.

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That hasn't been my experience.  I've traveled a few times on a plane.  You have to wear a mask, and the cleaning crews barely let you get off the plane before they scrub it down.  The bathrooms are cleaner than i've ever seen them. Newark Airport, which I usually fly out of is cleaner than I've ever seen it.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1214 on: July 26, 2021, 06:10:26 AM »
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Yeah, my concern is when everyone starts travelling for the holidays all hell is going to break loose.

Traveling is already increased.  The challenge the airports are having is getting the crowds thru security in a timely fashion.  I'm hearing stories of it's taking up to 2 hours.
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