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Title: Costume weapon question
Post by: semigeekgirl on May 16, 2017, 02:04:13 PM
So, I've read and re-read the costume weapons policy for 2016 (with the understanding that it might still be changed or updated for 2017), and I have a question. I've cosplayed for years at the Con but I've never had a costume where the weapon was an important part of it before.

I'm planning on bringing the Buffy Slayer scythe replica and creating a harness for it so that it's worn on my back and doesn't really protrude more than an inch or two past my body on any side. The replica itself is heavy but not sharp and I'm totally willing to zip-tie it into the harness so that it can't be removed (to comply with the "swords must not be able to be drawn" section of the policy, even though it's not a sword).

My question is for anyone who has cosplayed SDCC with a weapon before: do you think this will be a problem?

And secondly - do you have to get cleared and tagged by security each day? Or could I go to the inspection desk Thursday, get the weapon tagged and myself wristbanded, and then wear the harness and weapon Saturday as well without getting re-inspected?

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

2016 weapons policy here for reference: https://www.comic-con.org/cci/convention-policies
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: TardisMom on May 16, 2017, 04:57:03 PM
Interesting questions! 

I read through the guidelines and am of no help.  And my daughter is now bummed about her Wonder Woman sword and says she won't bother to make one for me (Hippolyta).
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: semigeekgirl on May 16, 2017, 05:23:58 PM
@TardisMom Oh no! FWIW, I'm pretty sure the rules only apply inside the Convention Center and satellite programming rooms like Indigo, so she could still have the sword out for pictures out front or on the Marina or wherever. I was planning to 'wield' the scythe to get some cool pictures outside.

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Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: TardisMom on May 16, 2017, 07:45:42 PM
Yes, we'll see how far she gets on all the props.  I imagine the "outside time" will be more fun, anyway :).  Looking forward to seeing your outfit and props!
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: foxbatkllr on May 16, 2017, 10:05:03 PM
Probably won't be a problem but they were really strict last year and wanted to tie everything down.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: semigeekgirl on May 16, 2017, 10:20:15 PM
[member=4294]foxbatkllr[/member] Thanks! I'm okay with them tying it down, I just want to be as sure as possible it will be okay since it's a major part of the costume.

Do you know if the tag/wristbands are day-specific? I always have way more time on Thursday than any other day so I'd like to get it out of the way if I can.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: foxbatkllr on May 16, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
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[member=4294]foxbatkllr[/member] Thanks! I'm okay with them tying it down, I just want to be as sure as possible it will be okay since it's a major part of the costume.

Do you know if the tag/wristbands are day-specific? I always have way more time on Thursday than any other day so I'd like to get it out of the way if I can.

I think you only need to be tagged once but I only wear my costumes for one day so maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: semigeekgirl on May 16, 2017, 10:29:58 PM
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I think you only need to be tagged once but I only wear my costumes for one day so maybe I'm wrong.

Me too, I usually do a different costume each day (although just street clothes on Sunday), but since Thursdays are often kind of low panel-wise I was thinking of getting it out of the way early. I'll probably just play it by ear... I'll wander by the weapons check and if it's not too busy I'll ask them.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: sylent_asassin on May 17, 2017, 04:11:33 PM
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[member=4294]foxbatkllr[/member] Thanks! I'm okay with them tying it down, I just want to be as sure as possible it will be okay since it's a major part of the costume.

Do you know if the tag/wristbands are day-specific? I always have way more time on Thursday than any other day so I'd like to get it out of the way if I can.

The weapons only need to be tagged/tied down once. They will either put a sticker on it or put a plastic tie on swords so you can't unsheathe them.

A couple of years ago, I had a modified and painted PVC pipe that I carried over my shoulder as part of the costume and they put a sticker on it when they saw me walking around. A security guy walked up to me while I was in Sails and asked, "Did you get that weapon checked?" I responded with, "Weapon? It's not a weapon. It's just a prop." I gave it to him, he looked it over and he put a plastic weapons tie on it.

For one of my other costumes, I used to carry an airsoft pistol that kind of looks like a real firearm. A couple of years ago, security detained me even though I had the stickers on it proving that it had already been checked. After that, I stopped bringing guns as it more trouble than it's worth.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: semigeekgirl on May 17, 2017, 04:29:05 PM
[member=3102]sylent_asassin[/member] Thanks! Mine is obviously a fantasy weapon, so I'm sure I need to get it tagged... but also pretty sure no one actually expects me to do violence with it. I'll try to get it tagged Thursday, but as with anything SDCC-related, it will depend on scheduling and the whims of the Con gods...
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: sylent_asassin on May 17, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
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[member=3102]sylent_asassin[/member] Thanks! Mine is obviously a fantasy weapon, so I'm sure I need to get it tagged... but also pretty sure no one actually expects me to do violence with it. I'll try to get it tagged Thursday, but as with anything SDCC-related, it will depend on scheduling and the whims of the Con gods...

Yeah, I'd advise you to get it checked regardless. If it can be potentially used to poke someone's eye out or to cause blunt force trauma, it's considered a weapon. My PVC pipe was essentially a giant flashlight, but still had to be checked. Better to be safe than detained... like me. lol
Title: Issues with toy guns with orange tips
Post by: thcornwall on June 13, 2017, 05:55:32 AM
If we have guns that are kids toys, cap guns with no caps, that are clearly toys with the orange tips, are we going to have trouble?  I also have a toy rifle (kid sized) with orange tip that does not use caps or anything and a plastic (3d printer made) climbing pick for my Lara Croft costume.  I'm nervous about my efforts only to be banned...what do you think?
Title: Re: Issues with toy guns with orange tips
Post by: stl_ben on June 13, 2017, 06:56:50 AM
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If we have guns that are kids toys, cap guns with no caps, that are clearly toys with the orange tips, are we going to have trouble?  I also have a toy rifle (kid sized) with orange tip that does not use caps or anything and a plastic (3d printer made) climbing pick for my Lara Croft costume.  I'm nervous about my efforts only to be banned...what do you think?
I would say it's a safe bet they will not allow any realistic guns this year even if they have orange tips.
Title: Re: Issues with toy guns with orange tips
Post by: appaloosafire on June 13, 2017, 07:21:40 AM
Where did they state that? My friend is wanting to bring a prop pistol but I'm not too sure what they would define as not being realistic (bright colors, crazy build, etc)

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I would say it's a safe bet they will not allow any realistic guns this year even if they have orange tips.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: superkatchick on June 13, 2017, 07:35:10 AM
Hopefully SDCC will put out the prop/weapons policy for this year soon! I know a lot of people are trying to plan cosplays and I hate that someone would put a lot of time/money into something that can't be brought into the convention center. I doubt any realistic looking guns will be allowed after the events of this Con season but think a total prop ban would be a bit over the top.  ???
Title: Re: Issues with toy guns with orange tips
Post by: stl_ben on June 13, 2017, 07:41:31 AM
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Where did they state that? My friend is wanting to bring a prop pistol but I'm not too sure what they would define as not being realistic (bright colors, crazy build, etc)
They did state anything yet, just going by what's happening in the world. 
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 13, 2017, 08:02:24 AM
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Hopefully SDCC will put out the prop/weapons policy for this year soon! I know a lot of people are trying to plan cosplays and I hate that someone would put a lot of time/money into something that can't be brought into the convention center. I doubt any realistic looking guns will be allowed after the events of this Con season but think a total prop ban would be a bit over the top.  ???

Even Phoenix Comic Con realized pretty quickly that a total prop ban was too much, and started allowing sonic screwdrivers, HP wands, etc. inside. But things like light sabers, Harley Quinn Mallets, etc. are definitely in a grey area.
Title: Re: Issues with toy guns with orange tips
Post by: sylent_asassin on June 13, 2017, 09:45:42 AM
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They did state anything yet, just going by what's happening in the world.

They might not even address it at all and continue with their current weapons/props check-in policy.

For those bringing props and weapons, it might be a safe bet to dial it down a bit given recent incidents. I was thinking of being Nick Fury for a day (who has guns), so instead of the firearms, I'll just bring the Tesseract instead.
Title: Re: Issues with toy guns with orange tips
Post by: stl_ben on June 13, 2017, 10:02:20 AM
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They might not even address it at all and continue with their current weapons/props check-in policy.

For those bringing props and weapons, it might be a safe bet to dial it down a bit given recent incidents. I was thinking of being Nick Fury for a day (who has guns), so instead of the firearms, I'll just bring the Tesseract instead.
This is correct.  They may make no changes, they may make sensible changes, or they could go crazy and make us act like we are at an airport.  I would say hope for the best, plan for the worst.  Aka, find a costume that is sensible for the times we are living in, aka if you can do a costume that doesn't need realistic guns you are probably on the right path.  But if you want to be say Rick Grimes, maybe just leave the shotgun at home this year.
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: Kc_sunshine on August 25, 2017, 09:38:13 PM
I want to cosplay as Robin this year, he goes have a staff which I want to make and walk around with. Does a simple plastic staff have to tagged as well?
Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: semigeekgirl on August 26, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
Yes. Every weapon, no matter how light or non-functional, must be tagged.

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Title: Re: Costume weapon question
Post by: Kc_sunshine on August 28, 2017, 01:04:41 PM
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Yes. Every weapon, no matter how light or non-functional, must be tagged.

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That's what I had thought but I wanted to make sure, thank you^-^