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Overall, the response was similar to people that recovered from covid. It's still unclear if that's enough for immunity. There's the recent case of the 14 people on the Roosevelt. They had covid, they recovered, they tested negative twice and now they are symptomatic again testing positive again.
it's my understanding that a bunch of other first world countries use 'live' vaccines & they're safe.I will be lining up for the vaccine like it's hall h on a saturday
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginOverall, nothing to worry about as the link above says. Unless a virus totally changes overnight, sure, a person can get sick again, but lots of evidence says the coronavirus is not doing that thus far. Also note that some people need extra time to recover after being sick with the virus even when they are still showing some symptoms weeks later.
Work had an all-hands today, first one where they have discussed starting steps for people eventually coming back to work. Thought people might find it interesting.
The big news today is that Moderna released a teaser about it's vaccine's phase 1 clinical trial. It produces antibodies in all participants. That's great news. It produces neutralizing antibodies, the ones we need for a vaccine to work, in 8 participants. That's confusing news. Did they only test 8 people or did only 8 of the people in the trial produce them? If they only tested 8 people, why didn't they test them all? If only 8 people of all participants tested showed neutralizing antibodies, then that's not good.
The other issue is will people take the vaccine for covid? It's not looking great. The anti-vaxxers have been hard at work these last few months. It's worked. Polling shows that a third of people will refuse a covid vaccine. Only half of the population get's a flu vaccine for example.If some people have a problem with traditional vaccines, I would think they would have a bigger problem with this vaccine. This is a new approach to vaccinations. Instead of injecting a dead or weaken virus to elicit an immune response, this is a mRNA vaccine. The vaccine is a bit of mRNA to have your own cells to make the spike protein to stimulate your immune system. Some people won't even eat GMO food. I'm not sure how happy they'll be to have some mRNA injected into them.
I get my yearly flu vaccine as soon as it's available. For this though, I'm going to wait. Not because I fear it's efficacy or safety, but because I don't want to be in a Hall H line with a bunch of possibly infected people. I'll wait a few weeks for others to get it and the chances of getting infected on the way to get a vaccine to go down.Yes, traditional vaccines are also being developed. The problem is traditional vaccines take a long time to make. Like normally 4-5 years. If they get one out in 12-18 months, that will be a record setter. So the question is get a synthetic vaccine or wait a year or two longer for a "live" vaccine.
As for the virus changing, it already has. As of the end of March, there were 8 main strains being tracked. The strain in the US is different from the strain in Europe which is different from the strain in China. There are 8 big strains being tracked but there are a whole lot more.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Hopefully. That's one opinion. Unfortunately the science isn't out there to support it. Here's a warning from someone that's familiar with viruses that can reinfect after recovery.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginHere's a study that shows that only a subset of people that recover from covid have the antibodies that may give them immunity.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginAs for the virus changing, it already has. As of the end of March, there were 8 main strains being tracked. The strain in the US is different from the strain in Europe which is different from the strain in China. There are 8 big strains being tracked but there are a whole lot more.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginLuckily in this case, the thing that's being targeted is common to most if not all coronaviruses. So hopefully the vaccine will work on more than just covid. It may work for SARS, MARS, and maybe even the common cold. Some of the covid vaccine candidates are old SARS vaccine candidates.
1. They wouldn’t be saying that if they couldn’t back it up nor if only 1 person said it.
"They" are explicitly warning people that it's unclear whether recovery will lead to immunity. That's what some studies have shown as well as the opaque vaccine trial reports. While most people do produce antibodies, those aren't the antibodies that grant immunity. Neutralizing antibodies are the ones that are needed. In the recovered as well as the vaccine trial participants, only a subset of people produce nabs.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginFor the other well-known coronaviruses, what immunity there is is temporary. From months to a couple of years for SARS and MERS. Much less so for the common cold. That's why people keep getting colds over and over again. It's not because of mutation. The spike protein, the thing these antibodies target, stays the same. It's because the cold is such a mild illness that people don't produce nabs. Thus there is no or limited immunity.
Do we need to send Bruce Willis back in time to help save the future? Nope.
To quote Randy Quaid in Independence Day..... "Are you sure? :P
2. With the WHO, the leaders say “We don’t know what we already don’t know,” or “We better watch out, the virus is coming for us all!” than anything else. The basic information we all already know. They also have backtracked on certain information too, during this outbreak. So, be careful just by going to them only. Keep doing what you did by including other links like that NPR one. Lastly: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (Up to you on making an opinion on what the Times says in that article.)
1. Welcome to the medical community saying nothing is ever ‘guaranteed‘, even when the ‘optimistic’ evidence says the world should be optimistic. 2. With the WHO, the leaders say “We don’t know what we already don’t know,” or “We better watch out, the virus is coming for us all!” than anything else. The basic information we all already know. They also have backtracked on certain information too, during this outbreak. So, be careful just by going to them only. Keep doing what you did by including other links like that NPR one. Lastly: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login (Up to you on making an opinion on what the Times says in that article.) 3. Like Luke said to Rey in Episode 8: “Breathe. Just breathe.” The world is not fighting a super virus, just an evil, nasty one that we humans can beat. Now let’s be realistic on this matter? Yes! Anything can happen and we need to be careful. Should we think we are doomed for life now? No. Do we need to send Bruce Willis back in time to help save the future? Nope.
The WHO is being responsible. They aren't my only source of information. Be careful about forming your opinion based only on Twitter and Youtube posts.So much is unknown right now. Including whether there will be immunity from a vaccine or recovery. The funniest comment I saw about that was from a researcher on CNN who said he thought the Moderna teaser release said it was negative when he read it. He thought they said it didn't work since they said it worked about as well as the recovered. He was then surprised when the press was so excited that it was a good result.Here's another example. The Oxford vaccine results were glowing a few days ago.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginNow on further thought.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginAs for who knew when. The reports are that US intelligence knew and warned the administration about the outbreak last November. We didn't do anything about it. But those are just reports. What's fact is that South Korea, Taiwan, and the United States all officially found out at the same time. South Korea and Taiwan acted and have some of the lowest cases and deaths in the world. The US did not act until much later and we have the most cases and the most deaths.
I'd be all for John McClane showing up and kicking the virus' butt.
I won’t argue with you there, although with China silencing those who were trying to alert the rest of the world last winter doesn’t help as well. Europe, for example, would have liked getting some of that warning I’m sure. Overall, I still see more “I” than “we” with China. Shocking, right? Same here!