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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2021, 02:21:49 PM »
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By the way, I think they could have left the whole flag smasher/zemo part out and still had a compelling story about the legacy of the shield, what it means to me a soldier/super soldier, and that cap was more than a shield and couldn't just be replaced that easily.

And saying goodbye to Chris Evans.  ::sniff!::
TOTALLY agree with this. It almost feels like the idea for the series might've sprung with a character study (not dissimilar to "WandaVision") but Marvel Studios/creatives felt they had to justify it with some sort of action plot.  Episode 5 was my favorite of the bunch so far because it felt like its the first episode that truly had something to say about the characters.  I've mostly enjoyed this series, though I'd call it "less Marvel:" mostly good for its run-time but nothing something I think much about after-the-fact.  There have been some solid developments, but I agree that almost everything I've liked has little to do with the "stop the Flag Smashers" storyline.  I do like the series exploring the 'post-Blip' trauma and the chaos Stark caused with his selfishness of maintaining the 5-year period when bringing everything back, and I do like actress Erin Kellyman so I'm not _unhappy_ with anything in the show (if that makes sense).

That being said, it feels like the penultimate episode of the series has left a TON of developments up-in-the-air for the final episode's resolve, and it feels like some of the pacing throughout has been suspect IMO: meaning, it's developed fairly slowly only to build to what will likely feel like an incredibly faced-paced (hopefully not rushed) conclusion next week.  This was a great episode: that type I had wished the whole series was modeled after.  I kind of wish (as I said last week), that this ep came with 2 more eps left in the series so we can have a little bit more time to breathe/reflect with what the star characters are going through.  Next week besides what will certainly be at least one huge action set-piece (if not a couple), I'm sincerely hoping to see Bucky's psychiatrist again for one last Sopranos-esque session (though with Bucky's growth it likely wouldn't be as funny as the 1st couple eps so maybe it's best to keep that as a humorous memory at this point for me)

Oh, and of course the MOST awesome thing about this episode (IMO):
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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2021, 04:17:54 PM »
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And Sam
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  The scene with the vote on the Patch Act was a nice nod to Dr. Strangelove.  I absolutely love this show.

There was the nod to Rocky montage part of the episode as well.  Didn't it seem that Sam was pretty good with the shield when he was tossing it around with Bucky but then he got really bad at the start of the Rocky montage.  Was that a flashback?

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And saying goodbye to Chris Evans.  ::sniff!::

I've missed something.  Is Cap dead?  They talk like he is.  How did that happen?  The last I remember of him he was old but not dead.  Did I miss it?
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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2021, 04:25:12 PM »
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There was the nod to Rocky montage part of the episode as well.  Didn't it seem that Sam was pretty good with the shield when he was tossing it around with Bucky but then he got really bad at the start of the Rocky montage.  Was that a flashback?

I've missed something.  Is Cap dead?  They talk like he is.  How did that happen?  The last I remember of him he was old but not dead.  Did I miss it?

Don't know.  My point was more that he ain't gonna be in the movies no more.

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2021, 04:30:20 PM »
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Don't know.  My point was more that he ain't gonna be in the movies no more.

Before this week's episode, I was hoping for a showdown scene between Walker and Cap.  A surprise cameo by Chris Evans to take back the shield from the fake Captain America.

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2021, 04:30:48 PM »
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I've missed something.  Is Cap dead?  They talk like he is.  How did that happen?  The last I remember of him he was old but not dead.  Did I miss it?
I don't think they've ever clarified, and this is only a few months after ENDGAME so unless he had a quick death after passing the shield to Sam, he's still out there somewhere, I think.  I kinda dig how Marvel Studios creatives (can't remember who - maybe the director?) teased a big cameo this week; I have to think there were a decent amount of folks who thought "oooh: Chris Evans as Oldman Cap making a cameo?!"  I admittedly entertained the notion for a second, but figured that'd be a bit too gimmicky for Marvel (I thought maybe Sam paying a secret visit to Steve, and Steve giving him a pep talk on why he should indeed stop being stubborn and wield the shield might've been in play, but didn't put much thought/stock into that idea more than a minute or so).

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As I was typing my reply this was posted  :P
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Before this week's episode, I was hoping for a showdown scene between Walker and Cap.  A surprise cameo by Chris Evans to take back the shield from the fake Captain America.

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2021, 06:16:34 PM »
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Before this week's episode, I was hoping for a showdown scene between Walker and Cap.  A surprise cameo by Chris Evans to take back the shield from the fake Captain America.

That would be so cool. I would die.

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2021, 06:31:02 PM »
So what's in the box?

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2021, 10:47:30 AM »
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So what's in the box?

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Marcellus Wallace's soul?

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2021, 12:11:13 PM »
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Marcellus Wallace's soul?

better than some other possibilities, gwyneth paltrow is in the mcu after all ...

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2021, 12:31:27 PM »
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better than some other possibilities, gwyneth paltrow is in the mcu after all ...

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2021, 04:03:17 PM »
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Marcellus Wallace's soul?
Nah; it didn't have that glow (of what were diamonds in the script but ultimately cut because QT already did the diamond thing in RESERVOIR DOGS)  :P

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So what's in the box?

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Agree; I totally think it's likely a
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I'm kinda curious to see what it looks like myself; the Falcon-Cap suit in the comics You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login was an absolutely amazing-looking design so I've been dying for a month and change to see what Sam's new costume will look like!!

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2021, 05:03:36 AM »
I'm going w/the Falcon/Cap design you see in the comics.  Holding out for some comics-authenticity here, plus it'd be sooooo cool.
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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2021, 01:11:02 PM »
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I'm going w/the Falcon/Cap design you see in the comics.  Holding out for some comics-authenticity here, plus it'd be sooooo cool.

I can't wait to see it in the next episode.  I don't read the comics so it'll be a surprise for me.

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2021, 07:47:03 AM »
Is it Friday yet?

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Re: Falcon and the Winter Soldier ***Spoilers***
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2021, 02:20:56 PM »
This show is just awesome!


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