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Title: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Loni on February 16, 2013, 05:51:59 PM
Hi guys! This is my first con, so I'm a complete n00b when it comes to the badge resale.What I'm curious about is being able to purchase single day passes for the ones you're missing. My other friends got 3/4 and 2/4 days, so I was wondering if they would be able to try the resale badge day and get single badges for the days they are missing. Thanks!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on February 16, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
As far as I know you should be able to
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 16, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
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As far as I know you should be able to

Oh that would be perfect. I hope that's true!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 16, 2013, 06:04:45 PM
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Hi guys! This is my first con, so I'm a complete n00b when it comes to the badge resale.What I'm curious about is being able to purchase single day passes for the ones you're missing. My other friends got 3/4 and 2/4 days, so I was wondering if they would be able to try the resale badge day and get single badges for the days they are missing. Thanks!

Yes, that's definitely the case, In fact, at last year's badge resale they spilt all of the badges they had available (even the 4 day ones) all into single days, just so people could 'fill in the gaps'.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 16, 2013, 06:10:05 PM
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Yes, that's definitely the case, In fact, at last year's badge resale they spilt all of the badges they had available (even the 4 day ones) all into single days, just so people could 'fill in the gaps'.

Ah-mazing! I'll have to let her know and keep my eyes open for the resale date!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Luxuria on February 16, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
The only thing they did last year was if you had any kind of Saturday badge (individual OR you got a 4 day pass) you were not eligible for the resale.  People asked why, and it came to the understanding of if you managed to get a Saturday, you should have been able to get all the other singles as Saturday is the first to go.  Otherwise if anyone had single days that didn't include Saturday, they were eligible without question. :)
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: dragonfly on February 16, 2013, 09:02:46 PM
Mind if I thread hijack for a minute?
Any idea how many badges are up for resale? I know it depends on the number of returns.
Last year was what 5,000? How quickly did they go?
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 16, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
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Mind if I thread hijack for a minute?
Any idea how many badges are up for resale? I know it depends on the number of returns.
Last year was what 5,000? How quickly did they go?
Thanks :)

5000 appears to be the magic # for last year. Sold out fairly quickly.

CCI is usually very mum on any official #s so we can only speculate based on info from various sources.

At this point, it's only a guess as to how they will approach the resale so would recommend everyone stay on alert. It SHOULD be AFTER hotel sales but IF they do a special sale in response to the issues from today, I'd expect it early to mid March before we get into WonderCon season.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 16, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
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The only thing they did last year was if you had any kind of Saturday badge (individual OR you got a 4 day pass) you were not eligible for the resale.  People asked why, and it came to the understanding of if you managed to get a Saturday, you should have been able to get all the other singles as Saturday is the first to go.  Otherwise if anyone had single days that didn't include Saturday, they were eligible without question. :)

Ooo, interesting! I will pass that along and hope it's not true for this time, because I believe she only got Friday and Saturday. Thanks!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 16, 2013, 09:47:09 PM
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At this point, it's only a guess as to how they will approach the resale so would recommend everyone stay on alert. It SHOULD be AFTER hotel sales but IF they do a special sale in response to the issues from today, I'd expect it early to mid March before we get into WonderCon season.

Gotcha! Good to know!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Angology on February 17, 2013, 06:37:15 AM
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Ooo, interesting! I will pass that along and hope it's not true for this time, because I believe she only got Friday and Saturday. Thanks!
Just a note, sometimes in the resale, you are ineligible if you got a Saturday badge. The logic is that if you got a Saturday badge (they sell out first), you had the opportunity to buy all days.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: KirbySS on February 17, 2013, 07:34:08 AM
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Just a note, sometime in the resale, you are ineligible if you got a Saturday badge. The logic is that if you got a Saturday badge (they sell out first), you had the opportunity to buy all days.

Your facts are in error. Saturday badges don't sell out first. 4 day bagdes w/ Preview night sell out first. The fault in your logic is that it does not take into account the people who wanted preview night and couldn't get it. The message to those people is, "you are not as important to us as another customer", which is a bad message to be promoting.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 17, 2013, 07:37:07 AM
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Your facts are in error. Saturday badges don't sell out first. 4 day bagdes w/ Preview night sell out first. The fault in your logic is that it does not take into account the people who wanted preview night and couldn't get it. The message to those people is, "you are not as important to us as another customer", which is a bad message to be promoting.

Actually, last year when they first instituted that rule for the badge resale, they didn't have any preview night badges for that sale. They only had a few 4 day badges, and they broke them all up into single days. The ' Saturday Ban ' made sense, given what hey had available.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 17, 2013, 07:44:25 AM
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At this point, it's only a guess as to how they will approach the resale so would recommend everyone stay on alert. It SHOULD be AFTER hotel sales but IF they do a special sale in response to the issues from today, I'd expect it early to mid March before we get into WonderCon season.

Actually, while last year they had an unexpected 'second chance' sale at the end of March, the REFUND sale is always after the *final badge refund date* in May (not the hotel day, which is usually much earlier). IIRC, that date is May 11 this year, so the refund sale would not be until then. That's not to say that they might not have a second chance sale though. I'm guessing a lot of people who did get through from yesterday were upgrading from the August sale and their badges now go back into the pool. So a second chance sale sometime in the next month is definitely possible, especially since there is precedent for it.

BTW, I think the reason there were so few badges in the refund sale last year is because many of them went during the second chance sale. So you would really need to count both sales together,
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 17, 2013, 07:49:50 AM
yes. I know there is a refund sale may or june. I'm of the impression that there will be a special sale before then.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 17, 2013, 07:54:38 AM
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Your facts are in error. Saturday badges don't sell out first. 4 day bagdes w/ Preview night sell out first. The fault in your logic is that it does not take into account the people who wanted preview night and couldn't get it. The message to those people is, "you are not as important to us as another customer", which is a bad message to be promoting.

But that was exactly what CCI said. If you had a Saturday badge, you had an opportunity to buy the 4 day or all 4 single days individually but chose not to whether because the 4 day with or without PN was gone or you didn't want Sunday, etc so they excluded anyone with Saturday from the resale.  Nothing more than that. All people matter.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 17, 2013, 07:56:18 AM
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yes. I know there is a refund sale may or june. I'm of the impression that there will be a special sale before then.

I agree, it's a definite possibility and there is precedent. I think it's just confusing with multiple potential resales!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: KirbySS on February 17, 2013, 08:40:44 AM
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But that was exactly what CCI said. If you had a Saturday badge, you had an opportunity to buy the 4 day or all 4 single days individually but chose not to whether because the 4 day with or without PN was gone or you didn't want Sunday, etc so they excluded anyone with Saturday from the resale.  Nothing more than that. All people matter.

Just because you have a Saturday badge does not mean you got the ticket you wanted. In my case I got a 4 day badge which includes Saturday but I did not get the badge I wanted which was a 4 day with Preview night which sold out before the 4 day and Saturday badges.

IF you did not want preview night, then yes, you are set. If you wanted preview night but got cut out due to an EPIC fail you should have another shot at it.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 17, 2013, 08:44:38 AM
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Just because you have a Saturday badge does not mean you got the ticket you wanted. In my case I got a 4 day badge which includes Saturday but I did not get the badge I wanted which was a 4 day with Preview night which sold out before the 4 day and Saturday badges.

IF you did not want preview night, then yes, you are set. If you wanted preview night but got cut out due to an EPIC fail you should have another shot at it.

Your argument is only relevant if preview night badges are available. The ONE time CCI had the 'Saturday rule', there were no preview night badges for sale.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Angology on February 17, 2013, 08:45:37 AM
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Just a note, sometimes in the resale, you are ineligible if you got a Saturday badge. The logic is that if you got a Saturday badge (they sell out first), you had the opportunity to buy all days.
Your facts are in error. Saturday badges don't sell out first. 4 day bagdes w/ Preview night sell out first. The fault in your logic is that it does not take into account the people who wanted preview night and couldn't get it. The message to those people is, "you are not as important to us as another customer", which is a bad message to be promoting.
I meant that the Saturday badges are the first individual day badges to sell out. I guess I also should have said "I think the logic is..." It wasn't my logic, it's what I think CCI's logic was. Loni had mentioned that the friend might have a Saturday badge. I did write "sometimes", because I wasn't sure if it would happen again this year-it is what they did last year for one of the refund sales-that part is a fact. I was just trying to warn them. I apologize if I was unclear.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: rando on February 17, 2013, 10:15:24 AM
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yes. I know there is a refund sale may or june. I'm of the impression that there will be a special sale before then.

Hey Khaaaaaaanh! <raising arms fists shaking> (sorry dude couldn't resist)  ;D  CCI still has that message on their site saying to send screen caps to them:

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/2013-badge-purchase

Is it possible that people that send in screen caps will have priority in a potential special sale?  I'm curious on behalf of a Friend...
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 17, 2013, 12:30:14 PM
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Is it possible that people that send in screen caps will have priority in a potential special sale?  I'm curious on behalf of a Friend...

I hadn't thought of that until this morning, but I think they could even do better. They could take all of those people and just directly offer them a badge purchase. No sale (and associated hassles) and they help out people who legitimately should have had a better chance.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 17, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
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Hey Khaaaaaaanh! <raising arms fists shaking> (sorry dude couldn't resist)  ;D  CCI still has that message on their site saying to send screen caps to them:

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/2013-badge-purchase

Is it possible that people that send in screen caps will have priority in a potential special sale?  I'm curious on behalf of a Friend...

I think enough people had issues where other errors? happened (white screen, runtime error) where a screenshot doesn't give them much to work with that I don't think they'd give any preference to that group since then you'll get the outcry from people who say they weren't told how to get a screenshot, etc.

The "fair" thing to do is keep Member ID closed, have a sale but exclude all 4 Day peeps (with and without PN) and probably the Saturday peeps and do a sale that way. Not saying it will happen but it would go a long way to making things "right" for some folks.

And KirbySS - I understand what you're saying and I think we're having 2 different arguments. Like Transmute mentioned, there were no Preview Night badges sold in that special sale so there would be no reason to include the Saturday people who still had a chance to obtain all the other days. The point was just that THAT was the reasoning CCI gave and in a case like this, they can justify doing it the same way again.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 17, 2013, 09:00:26 PM
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I did write "sometimes", because I wasn't sure if it would happen again this year-it is what they did last year for one of the refund sales-that part is a fact. I was just trying to warn them. I apologize if I was unclear.

You were perfectly clear, don't worry! I don't know how they'll run the sale this year, but I will definitely mention that the possibility of no Saturday people can rebuy. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. I do appreciate everything you've said so far :)
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: karatekid on February 17, 2013, 11:10:17 PM
Oh and the obvious ... it may have been a "special" sale for those that did not get Saturday but you still were far from guaranteed to get Saturday!!

This whole screen shot deal, I don't know, I'm with Khanh on this one, I can't see how you can do anything too special for these unfortunate people minus possibly a sale like last year for the no Saturday folks. I mean what if it didn't work for them because they didn't follow one of CCi's sale "rules" ... ie opening multiple tabs and refreshing, etc. They're going to get reward for that? Plus, unlike last year, they didn't have the sale in August for the "preferred" "returning customer" sale so I do not believe there are as many available badges this year at this point in time. They probably "only" pretty much have the refund/return ones.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: conventiongeek on February 20, 2013, 08:35:17 PM
A few points...

Although there will always be people in an uproar about the problems this past Saturday, I'd have to think there is a reason they wanted screen shots, member ID's and full names. I think the white screen people may not have as much to stand on as the people who were actually in the waiting room and frozen (no screen shots and no number in line for proof). Although I know that the white screen was some form of the waiting room that was just not loading, without the print screen and a number in line there would be little that CCI can do for those people.
What they should do (and I like what Transmute stated) is provide individual offers to all those with a frozen screen shot and a place in line. Then have a free for all Second Chance sale for all the others. This would go a long way to satisfy most people. You can never please everyone.

Karate - not sure if you got it backwards, but it was the people who were following the "rules" that got left out. If all the white screen people would have hit refresh early enough there is a good chance they would have been able to see the waiting room page. Too many of us were too afraid to go against that rule and were not rewarded.

Loni - can you exxplain why your friend with a Friday and Saturday badge now wants additional days just a few hours after registration closed?

I definately like the idea that anyone with a Saturday badge of any kind (individual, 4-day, 4-day w/ preview) should not be allowed in the resale as they had their chance, now let those that got the short end have their day.

Can anyone tell me if the second chance sale last year was in direct response to the problems that they had during open registration? Also, were they asking for screen shots last year, I do not remember.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: alyssa on February 20, 2013, 08:45:13 PM
Last year the sale post refunds was not a special event.  it was seen as normal.

However the sale is directly due to having refunded badges to sell.  If there are no badges then there will be no sale.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 20, 2013, 08:48:12 PM
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A few points...

Although there will always be people in an uproar about the problems this past Saturday, I'd have to think there is a reason they wanted screen shots, member ID's and full names. I think the white screen people may not have as much to stand on as the people who were actually in the waiting room and frozen (no screen shots and no number in line for proof). Although I know that the white screen was some form of the waiting room that was just not loading, without the print screen and a number in line there would be little that CCI can do for those people.
What they should do (and I like what Transmute stated) is provide individual offers to all those with a frozen screen shot and a place in line. Then have a free for all Second Chance sale for all the others. This would go a long way to satisfy most people. You can never please everyone.

That would be ideal, but only *if* they have enou badges to do so.

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Can anyone tell me if the second chance sale last year was in direct response to the problems that they had during open registration? Also, were they asking for screen shots last year, I do not remember.

Yes, I believe the second chance sale was in response to problems with the general sale. But they did not ask for screen shots in advance. That was completely new.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 20, 2013, 08:57:11 PM
Last year it was in direct response to the link issue. The special sale is not a normal yearly thing. The Ticket Leap year, they actually shut down the sale and held multiple ones because it crashed several times.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: alyssa on February 20, 2013, 09:00:26 PM
CCI has had a badge sale after the refund dead line for at least the past 2 years.  Neither of those times was it in response to problems but in response to cci wanting more people to have the opportunity to attend.
 
During one of those sales, CCI put a further restriction on the sale, regarding who was eligible to participate, this was the 'you can't buy if you've got a Sat.' clause.

However, if a deal is done to allow all the screen shot people to buy badges then there likely won't be any badges left for the resale.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: conventiongeek on February 20, 2013, 09:18:47 PM
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However, if a deal is done to allow all the screen shot people to buy badges then there likely won't be any badges left for the resale.

Did they not have both a "second chance" sale in March and then a final badge resale in May last year? Why woud you think there would be less badges available this year for any possible resales?
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Zero on February 20, 2013, 09:29:30 PM
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Did they not have both a "second chance" sale in March and then a final badge resale in May last year? Why woud you think there would be less badges available this year for any possible resales?

If CCI does indeed honor the screenshots, then there will obviously be less badges for any resales.  We, of course, can only speculate at how many people had this issue and when and how CCI will deal with it (at least until they announce a solution for it).  If it is truly a significant amount of people, then it might make an impact on the number of remaining badges.

They've already reached the limit for this first round of sales, so if the outcome is positive for the people with screenshots, then it is likely that there will be fewer badges available for resales.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: ComicGirl on February 20, 2013, 11:22:24 PM
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I hadn't thought of that until this morning, but I think they could even do better. They could take all of those people and just directly offer them a badge purchase. No sale (and associated hassles) and they help out people who legitimately should have had a better chance.

"They could take all of those people and just directly offer them a badge purchase." Where would this magic supply of badges come from? If all badges sold-out on Saturday, and pro registration has already sold-out ... how could they suddenly "find" thousands of badges to give the screen shot people?
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 21, 2013, 12:14:18 AM
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"They could take all of those people and just directly offer them a badge purchase." Where would this magic supply of badges come from? If all badges sold-out on Saturday, and pro registration has already sold-out ... how could they suddenly "find" thousands of badges to give the screen shot people?

Yup. That's where my hangup is with just giving everyone w/ a screenshot a badge. I think the first thing they need to look at is how many badges will be refunded as part of the upgrades. Then a count of how many valid screenshot issues there were. And by valid I mean having all the necessary info with the queue # and timestamp within the range of time of the sale.

It sounds like something is being planned - maybe a sale open only to the Member IDs that submitted screenshots (explaining the reason that info was asked for)? Perfect world, badges given to everyone that was impacted by the system issue. Real world? To be determined...
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: EnglishmanInSanDiego on February 21, 2013, 06:17:18 AM
I'm convinced the screenshots are not to serve the purpose of getting people badges - it would be highly impractical to serve these over people who have gotten them thru the process, anyway. I'm sure that CCI are wanting the screenshots more as clues in an attempt to find out what actually happened on Saturday...


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Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: alyssa on February 21, 2013, 06:20:16 AM
and how wide spread Epic's problems spread.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 21, 2013, 06:20:23 AM
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"They could take all of those people and just directly offer them a badge purchase." Where would this magic supply of badges come from? If all badges sold-out on Saturday, and pro registration has already sold-out ... how could they suddenly "find" thousands of badges to give the screen shot people?

They have a new supply, from badges that were upgraded in the general sale (and the old ones had to be refunded). Of course, they can't make a direct offering until they know if they have ENOUGH refunded badges to offer to the screenshot group. If they don't have enough, then going through a 'second chance sale' is the next best option.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: perc2100 on February 21, 2013, 10:10:06 AM
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I'm convinced the screenshots are not to serve the purpose of getting people badges - it would be highly impractical to serve these over people who have gotten them thru the process, anyway. I'm sure that CCI are wanting the screenshots more as clues in an attempt to find out what actually happened on Saturday...

Also maybe to see if this was a regional issue.  Perhaps tracking Member ID would allow CCI/EPIC to see if this was a specific region, carrier, etc.
(I have no idea, just throwing out guesses)
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: perc2100 on February 21, 2013, 10:11:59 AM
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CCI has had a badge sale after the refund dead line for at least the past 2 years.  Neither of those times was it in response to problems but in response to cci wanting more people to have the opportunity to attend.
 
During one of those sales, CCI put a further restriction on the sale, regarding who was eligible to participate, this was the 'you can't buy if you've got a Sat.' clause.

However, if a deal is done to allow all the screen shot people to buy badges then there likely won't be any badges left for the resale.

Also, I thought last year the special second chance sale was possible partially because CCI limited the amount of press, guests (of pros), etc.  I.E. they saw the tech problem, took measures that would free up a certain number of badges, and then put those badges for sale (with the re-sale being the refunded badges).
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 21, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
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Also, I thought last year the special second chance sale was possible partially because CCI limited the amount of press, guests (of pros), etc.  I.E. they saw the tech problem, took measures that would free up a certain number of badges, and then put those badges for sale (with the re-sale being the refunded badges).

From the interview posted awhile back, it sounded like there were already steps in place to free up badges from other buckets to begin with.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: BadWolf on February 21, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they set aside an undetermined amount of badges before the general sale just in case of something like this.

I'm sure they knew there was a chance that things wouldn't go smoothly (if past years are any indication). I would bet there will be another sale of a limited number of badges for the screenshot people, but it'll be just as cut-throat as general badges sales. Probably send a blanket email with a link to the member IDs who sent in screenshots, no matter where you were in line.

The fact that they are collecting personal data from the screenshot people kinda supports the theory. But we'll see.


*Edited for spelling
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: conventiongeek on February 21, 2013, 11:16:43 AM
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I'm convinced the screenshots are not to serve the purpose of getting people badges - it would be highly impractical to serve these over people who have gotten them thru the process, anyway. I'm sure that CCI are wanting the screenshots more as clues in an attempt to find out what actually happened on Saturday...

There is no serving anyone over the people that have gotten them thru the process... those people were able to get badges. Those of us that were frozen, were not. Perhaps the right thing to do is try to accomodate those that were frozen due to their system glitch. They knew it was coming, they even asked people to save screen shots if they were frozen in the waiting room prior to the sale.

My thoughts are that they tested the sytem prior to the sale and realized that some of the servers were connecting and going thru and others were freezing up. I am still sticking to my earlier theory that they saw this coming and held back some badges just in the event that there were problems. If there had been no problems, they also had the pre-thought from the "second chance" sale last year that they could simply put the held back badges into another secondary sale....   still have my figers crossed.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: ComicGirl on February 21, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
I honestly don;t get the whole "they knew it wouldn't work" argument. Why would any company in it's right mind (who had failed on several previous attempts) launch a system that they knew wouldn't work. This is conspiracy theory on steroids.....

Having a massive failure doesn't help Comic-Con's image and I'm sure their director of PR would never sign off on any plan that said "Well, we know it doesn't work. But let's do it anyway so hundreds and thousands of people are mad and email us." This conspiracy theory just doesn't make any sense at all. Logic has been thrown out the window. "Among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected." - Occam's Razor

I think it's pretty clear here that the problem is EPIC registration. They keep failing over and over and over again. However, if Comic-Con keeps picking EPIC registration, then who is really to blame? The organization should dump the weak link or they have no one to blame but themselves.






Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 21, 2013, 01:54:16 PM
I think it's highly unlikely that they held any badges back. JMHO, but there would be no point to doing that before the sale. They want as many people as possible to buy badges.

However they do have newly refunded inventory now, and so there is a fresh re-supply that they can use for a refund sale.

The reason people think CCI knew the system would fail, or at least knew it was possible, is because they posted BEFORE the sale that people who froze in the waiting room (which had never happened in previous sales) should take a screenshot and send it in (something CCI had never asked for or suggested before). I agree that the very fact that they asked this in advance means they knew it was a possibility. But I don't think they had any idea of how many people would have this problem.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: ComicGirl on February 21, 2013, 01:58:46 PM
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The reason people think CCI knew the system would fail, or at least knew it was possible, is because they posted BEFORE the sale that people who froze in the waiting room (which had never happened in previous sales) should take a screenshot and send it in (something CCI had never asked for or suggested before). I agree that the very fact that they asked this in advance means they knew it was a possibility. But I don't think they had any idea of how many people would have this problem.

Interesting theory. Pre-emptive customer service equals a conspiracy to launch a faulty system? Hmmmm.......
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 21, 2013, 02:07:43 PM
Isn't it fairly normal to ask someone to document a process if they are to submit an issue about an error?

The alternative is NOT to tell people to do that and get the same 1000 emails complaining about the process but not having any data to work with to help resolve the issue and potentially do something to help those w/ legitimate issues.

Conspiracy theories are fun and all but will be nearly impossible to prove and will only serve to continue to make people even more upset over them feeling like they were somehow cheated and screwed out of badges.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 21, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
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Isn't it fairly normal to ask someone to document a process if they are to submit an issue about an error?

Perhaps, but normally that request is only made AFTER the error occurs.

And CCI has never requested such documentation before, nor been so specific about a previously unheard of error.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 21, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
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And CCI has never requested such documentation before, nor been so specific about a previously unheard of error.

If something happens during every badge sale regardless of who the ticketing agency is, at one point or another you've got to sound a little proactive in making it appear that you're trying to protect the interests of your customer.

They don't necessarily have to do anything with it but it gives them options.

If there are one offs, they can grant those folks badges (which appears to be what they did with a few people that had Last Name issues on the screen to enter your inf to get to the purchase page last year with hyphens or multiple last names according to FB posts effusively thanking CCI for resolving an issue after posts just a few hours earlier eviscerating the process).

If it's widespread, they can do a special sale (again like last year w/ the link issue).
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: ComicGirl on February 21, 2013, 02:23:59 PM
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Perhaps, but normally that request is only made AFTER the error occurs.

And CCI has never requested such documentation before, nor been so specific about a previously unheard of error.

They took screen shots from people in the last sale whose waiting room numbers were moving backwards in line. It was posted by a few on Facebook that they sent a screen shot and Comic-Con helped them. Maybe this gave them the idea to do it this year? I don't know, but a broad generalization that they planned for this failure simply because they recommended people take a screen shot makes no sense.

Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: karatekid on February 21, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
Maybe someone threatened litigation in the past and CCI learned if they offer this disclaimer early they would be immune to that.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 21, 2013, 04:14:32 PM
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Maybe someone threatened litigation in the past and CCI learned if they offer this disclaimer early they would be immune to that.

Wow, that's something I never thought of. But you just might be right. Interesting idea to ponder...
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: BadWolf on February 21, 2013, 07:31:14 PM
I'm not saying they knew it would fail. I'm saying they knew there a possibility there would be problems.

Edited to clarify: EPIC keeps failing over and over and I'm sure comic con took into consideration that history could repeat itself, so to speak.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: conventiongeek on February 21, 2013, 07:56:16 PM
It seems to me you all are overlooking something. We all keep saying Epic is such a failure, did you ever think that there aren't any other options? I heard people say Ticketmaster, but is that really an option? Additional fees, and how would they process the tickets... Ticketmaster prints their own tickets and mails them before the show. So, they would have to develope a whole other system (more money) allowing them to send purchse information back to CCI and who knows what from there?
In addition, if they have few or no other choices, its not a conspiracy, perhaps they tested it and had mixed results and decided to just go ahead with the sale to see what happens knowing that the problem could occur. They could of waited and put off the sale for a few weeks or another month, but then timing becomes important as well (hotels, airfare, etc etc...). Perhaps they just figured they had to make due and that they would clean up the mess afterwards. Clearly they expected the exact problem to happen, that happened. If they thought that it may happen based on their tests, perhaps that is why they posted it on the website ahead of time to lessen the frantic and upset calls and emails. Knowing that they expected the issue does lessen my anger somewhat. It gives me a bit more comfort and a little extra hope that I would not have had otherwise. Maybe it's just smart planning on their part.
Conpiracy? Naaa...  but they had an idea that it might happen. If they did, I am still holding onto the fact that they may have held some badges back... yes yes, I know they could use returned badges, but my theory is if they knew it was coming, then they may have been preparing for it.
Last note, someone said why would they take 5 -7 or even 7-10 days to review something if they have a simple solution to the problem? If they knew they were going to have a problem and that they just needed to have a "second sale" I do not think they would need that kind of time to make a decision or even review anything at all. If they were not going to do anything, then they would probably just say sorry and move on. They are at worst weighing somekind of options, even if is is a "sorry my bad and good luck in May" email. 7-10 days would give them aple time to sift through the few hundred to a thousand print screen they recieved. What they will do with them is still a mystery....
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on February 21, 2013, 10:27:26 PM
If I have a few days already, and *hopefully* manage to pick up the missing days in the resale, what happens in regards to my barcode? Do I get 2 barcodes? or will I receive a new one that covers all of my total days? how does it work?

i.e - I have all days except Saturday. on the assumption I manage to get a saturday badge, thus turning my 3 singles into 4 singles (and 4 singles into a 4 day pass) Do I get a new barcode? or does EPIC/CCI just append my new badge on to the current barcode?

Anyone been in this situation?
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Zero on February 21, 2013, 10:44:00 PM
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If I have a few days already, and *hopefully* manage to pick up the missing days in the resale, what happens in regards to my barcode? Do I get 2 barcodes? or will I receive a new one that covers all of my total days? how does it work?

i.e - I have all days except Saturday. on the assumption I manage to get a saturday badge, thus turning my 3 singles into 4 singles (and 4 singles into a 4 day pass) Do I get a new barcode? or does EPIC/CCI just append my new badge on to the current barcode?

Anyone been in this situation?

You get one bar code per person, regardless of how many badges he or she has.  All of your information is encoded into that one bar code. 

Last year, I had three single-day badges, but I managed to get a Saturday badge as well.  In the end, CCI sent me a new confirmation e-mail, but I still had the same bar code.  The only difference was that I had all four badges listed on the registration confirmation e-mail.  Because the badges are linked to the member IDs, it should be fine.

Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on February 21, 2013, 10:51:15 PM
That's exactly the answer I needed.

Thanks, Zero!
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Zero on February 21, 2013, 10:54:33 PM
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That's exactly the answer I needed.

Thanks, Zero!

Glad I could help! 

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Time for some forum housekeeping:
Merged this thread with the already existing thread on badge resale questions.
Renamed topic from "Badge Resale Question" to "CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread" (to make it easier to find).

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Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 21, 2013, 11:09:39 PM
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Loni - can you exxplain why your friend with a Friday and Saturday badge now wants additional days just a few hours after registration closed?

Sorry, haven't been on the forums in a couple days due to work, so I just noticed this message. And she was the one that got into the system to register us. She registered 3 other people before her and decided to go last herself. I'm not completely sure how her registration went, but I do know that she mentioned that Thursday was sold out after she finished the second registration and I'm not sure if she just decided to not get a Sunday badge or if that option was gone as well when she finally got to registering herself. Myself and my brother got all 4 days (we were first and second to be registered) and her friend got F,S,S when she put her in third. I know my friend would like to have all the days available, but I'm going off the assumption that the two other days were not available to her when she registered herself.
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: oneroomdisco on February 21, 2013, 11:28:20 PM
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Sorry, haven't been on the forums in a couple days due to work, so I just noticed this message. And she was the one that got into the system to register us. She registered 3 other people before her and decided to go last herself. I'm not completely sure how her registration went, but I do know that she mentioned that Thursday was sold out after she finished the second registration and I'm not sure if she just decided to not get a Sunday badge or if that option was gone as well when she finally got to registering herself. Myself and my brother got all 4 days (we were first and second to be registered) and her friend got F,S,S when she put her in third. I know my friend would like to have all the days available, but I'm going off the assumption that the two other days were not available to her when she registered herself.

Not sure how that could have been possible.  Per the Comic Con twitter, Saturday was the first to sell out (after 4-Day with and without preview night), followed by Friday.  Did she go last year and actually get the Friday/Saturday badges in the August sale?
Title: Re: Badge Resale Question
Post by: Loni on February 21, 2013, 11:35:42 PM
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Not sure how that could have been possible.  Per the Comic Con twitter, Saturday was the first to sell out (after 4-Day with and without preview night), followed by Friday.  Did she go last year and actually get the Friday/Saturday badges in the August sale?

Well Comic Con twitter was fail and extremely slow at actually talking about where the badges were. That's just what she told me happened to her when she tried to buy badges - I found it odd as well. And this is our first year going to Comic Con, so we didn't do the August sale.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on February 24, 2013, 10:29:29 AM
It's been too quiet, I hope that CCI sends some knd of information about possible resales or a solution to the frozen print screen fiasco before Tuesdays Hotel sale.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: perc2100 on February 24, 2013, 11:51:26 AM
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It's been too quiet, I hope that CCI sends some knd of information about possible resales or a solution to the frozen print screen fiasco before Tuesdays Hotel sale.

That'd be nice, huh?  Unfortunately I don't think that's going to happen.  Things move fast, with CCI needing to open up Member ID so people can buy WonderCon badges, the Hotel Thing needs to happen sooner than later, etc.
At least we know that CCI will seemingly have the so-far-assumed Resale after the refund deadline.  It's possible there were just too many emails of system problems to fairly accommodate everyone, or they don't have many badges to offer people, etc.  If nothing else maybe they'll do something down the road, after the refund deadline, to help out those that emailed them.  That would give them more than enough time to sort through the Epic mess. 

I hope they help out those that were bumped off the system, got a frozen screen, etc: one of my bro-in-law's friends got the frozen que screen as well.  I can't imagine, however, that they will have it all straightened out before the hotel lottery
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: depictprints on February 24, 2013, 11:55:51 AM
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It's been too quiet, I hope that CCI sends some knd of information about possible resales or a solution to the frozen print screen fiasco before Tuesdays Hotel sale.

Not sure if that will happen before Tuesday's Hotel sale, but they've got to be working on it!  After all their office parking lot has been full of cars every day this past week (including Sat), meaning they're at Full Staff, working hard!  ...I live right by their offices and drive by it all the time so I can always tell when they're super busy.   :)  Off topic - I sooooo want to go knocking on their office doors just to get an answer out of them from a real person not some standard generalized e-mail. Lol...don't think they'd appreciate that!

As for the Returned Badge re-sale itself, they never post anything about that before the Hotel Sale.  I don't think they usually have too many returned badges to sell in May anyway.  Always more difficult for me to get through on those sales than the regular sales. 
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: perc2100 on February 24, 2013, 02:09:45 PM
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As for the Returned Badge re-sale itself, they never post anything about that before the Hotel Sale.  I don't think they usually have too many returned badges to sell in May anyway.  Always more difficult for me to get through on those sales than the regular sales.

I can see that; I've had really good luck during the re-sales.  Last couple of years I really procrastinated buying my buddies badges, and twice I got his badge during the resale: this year I didn't take any chances and bought his badge at preregistration.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on February 26, 2013, 07:06:53 AM
I've noticed people on Twitter saying that they've started seeing refunds if they upgraded their badges during the sale. I've come across a few people who are returning badges altogether as well.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: perc2100 on February 26, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
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As for the Returned Badge re-sale itself, they never post anything about that before the Hotel Sale.  I don't think they usually have too many returned badges to sell in May anyway.  Always more difficult for me to get through on those sales than the regular sales.

While that's definitely mathematically true, I guess experience varies.  I've gotten badges for friends the last two years during the refund/resale.  Same as the everything else, it's part being prepared (knowing when sales start, having your computer good to go, etc) and part luck: nowadays I suspect it's more luck than being prepared, as it seems plenty of people who were prepared fell on bad luck when Epic got screwy.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: DameDoctor on February 26, 2013, 07:07:17 PM
Does anyone know the specific date for resales?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 26, 2013, 07:12:44 PM
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Does anyone know the specific date for resales?

They haven't been announced yet, but a good guess would be in May, after the badge refund deadline has passed.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on February 26, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
Refund deadline is 05/15 so there should be a sale shortly after that.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on March 16, 2013, 06:05:44 PM
Anyone know when they announced the "second chance" sale last year?

Was it a big surprise?

Apparently they had the second chance sale in response to the link issues, however did they tell people ahead of time that they were going to try and do something for them?

Do we think there are any simularites between the problems last year and the problems this year with the frozen screens and white page of death?

What really is a priority invitation (from the emails sent out this year)?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Zero on March 16, 2013, 06:31:06 PM
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Anyone know when they announced the "second chance" sale last year?

Was it a big surprise?

Apparently they had the second chance sale in response to the link issues, however did they tell people ahead of time that they were going to try and do something for them?

Do we think there are any simularites between the problems last year and the problems this year with the frozen screens and white page of death?

Question 1:
The general public badge sale date was March 4th, 2012.

Last year, there was a special case of two resales: the first one on March 27th (because of the faulty URL address e-mailed out to people; also known as the "second chance" resale) and the second on May 31st (from cancelled/returned badges).  Will it happen again this year?  That remains to be seen.

Question 2:
No, I didn't feel it was a big surprise for either of the resales, personally.

Question 3:
This is the super-condensed version of what happened in the March resale.  (Note the "super-condensed" label.) 

Last year was the "faulty" link problem.  If you clicked the link through the e-mail sent out, it would either hang and not load properly, or it gave you an error.  I believe it had to do with a "googleanalytics" page that did not redirect properly to the real URL, if I recall correctly.  People who cut-and-pasted or bookmarked the URL address beforehand managed to get through into the EPIC waiting room during the March resale.  I do not recall hearing about white screens of death or frozen screen problems that time around.

Question 4:
We don't know at this point, since CCI hasn't really made an official statement on that.  In all likeliness, they'll probably announce that information when they announce the actual resale date through their e-mails.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on March 16, 2013, 09:09:51 PM
Hey, bit of an odd question, and probably in the wrong place...but...

one of the major DVD sellers in Australia  is having a seriously good CCI 2013 comp, and the draw is on the 29th of May. in the case (which probably won't happen), that I win, would CC be happy to refund the person that bought me the tickets? (Which was Transmute Jun on these forums)

I ask this because the refund date is 15th May, and I wouldn't cancel my tickets before the draw is taken
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 16, 2013, 09:18:41 PM
Yes, CCI accepts refunds up until sometime in May... I think you are right that it is the 15th.

CCI would refund my card, and I would have to refund you.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Zero on March 16, 2013, 09:25:51 PM
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Yes, CCI accepts refunds up until sometime in May... I think you are right that it is the 15th.

CCI would refund my card, and I would have to refund you.

It is May 15th, 2013.  Confirmed for sure.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on March 16, 2013, 10:39:30 PM
Sorry, i don't think my question was clear. would CCI refund AFTER the 15th? because if the draw is on the 29th, I'm definitely not cancelling until I know if I won or not
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on March 16, 2013, 10:44:55 PM
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Sorry, i don't think my question was clear. would CCI refund AFTER the 15th? because if the draw is on the 29th, I'm definitely not cancelling until I know if I won or not

At their discretion on a case by case basis. Odds are in this situation, it'd be NO but if there was a medical emergency or something like that, they might say YES.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on March 17, 2013, 06:06:25 AM
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Do we think there are any simularites between the problems last year and the problems this year with the frozen screens and white page of death?

Question 4:
We don't know at this point, since CCI hasn't really made an official statement on that.  In all likeliness, they'll probably announce that information when they announce the actual resale date through their e-mails.


iirc, and i could be wrong, the link in the email had something to do with Google and....their metrics(??).  fuzzy here but iirc, once the link was clicked it had to go threw a portal which jammed. IMO, this had the effect of slowing the traffic to Epic.  This badge sale, all the clicks went straight to Epic which caused them to seize up.
Not to defend Epic here because over confidence is a big sin, how do you test for a massive load all at once?  In the non ticketing world it's called a Denial of Service Attack and it know to take down *huge* corporate sites.  All of this is just my opinion with no factual basis.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 17, 2013, 07:07:14 AM
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Sorry, i don't think my question was clear. would CCI refund AFTER the 15th? because if the draw is on the 29th, I'm definitely not cancelling until I know if I won or not

Sorry, I misunderstood. Khaaaan is right. No, CCI is not obligated to refund your badge after the deadline, although they have done so in the past on a case by case basis.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: NovelInsanity on May 05, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this, but I wasn't sure and I also wasn't sure if it'd be okay to start a new thread.

Anyhow, I was wondering if I already have a badge and a friend of mine secures me a professional badge for a panel, does the professional badge cancel out my regular one, or will I now have two? I know if you upgrade it cancels out the old ones, but I'm not sure about how professional badges work. Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 06, 2013, 05:20:38 AM
My assumption is that the bought pass will be refunded.  it would be easier if your friend is able to get the pro status lined up prior to the 15th tho.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 06, 2013, 07:59:52 AM
Generally professional badges are not 'for a panel'. You have a professional badge (which is 4 days with Preview Night) for the entire Con or a regular badge.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: NovelInsanity on May 06, 2013, 09:21:10 AM
I guess I didn't word that correctly. What I meant was I'm helping a friend put on a panel and she's getting me a professional badge for it. Right now I only have a 4-day WITHOUT preview night and the professional badge comes WITH preview night. I want to use the professional badge and I'm wondering if I register one if it will cancel out my regular one so I don't have a duplicate.
Title: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 06, 2013, 09:39:02 AM
It should cancel out the bought badge.  The question becomes will you still be eligible for the refund, hence the 'hopefully this can be done by 5.15.13'
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 06, 2013, 09:46:56 AM
Alyssa is correct. However if you use the professional badge, you may not be eligible for the badge presale for 2014.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: The Gossamer on May 06, 2013, 10:40:29 AM
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Alyssa is correct. However if you use the professional badge, you may not be eligible for the badge presale for 2014.
I concur with Transmute on the presale. Since the Pro Badge is free I would think you would not be included in any possible presale for 2013 attendees. I recommend to keep the attendee badge to insure an early presale qualification if you plan to attend in 2014.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: NovelInsanity on May 06, 2013, 12:40:17 PM
Thank you everyone for the help! I'm going to go ahead and keep my regular badge but see if I can pay someone off to snag me some preview night goodies. You're all awesome!
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 06, 2013, 11:27:50 PM
I would asume that you could keep both if you wanted to. Based on what I have read and what other professionals have stated in the past threads, you do not need a member ID to be a professional guest (assuming that's what you are). So technically, you could have both allowing you to go to preview night this year and still making you eligible for next years pre-sale (which still does not guarentee you a badge by the way).

There has got to be a professional out there that knows for sure...right?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 07, 2013, 04:49:35 AM
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There has got to be a professional out there that knows for sure...right?

There was a FB post where someone had complained to CCI that someone had both a pro and a regular badge and was going to use it to get exclusives and CCI asked them to email the info since they should not have both. Not sure what the end result is but I can only assume that CCI will continue to try and limit to 1 badge per person in order to make more available for everyone else.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: The Gossamer on May 07, 2013, 07:57:44 AM
Personally I would not risk using both and getting caught and possibly ejected from the Con and restricted for future sales. It could also put the Pro who gave the badge to you at risk.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: perc2100 on May 07, 2013, 01:49:19 PM
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Alyssa is correct. However if you use the professional badge, you may not be eligible for the badge presale for 2014.

This was my 1st thought as well.  Preview Night is cool, and I've only missed one in its history, but it's not worth jeopardizing presale status for
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: perc2100 on May 07, 2013, 01:54:09 PM
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Personally I would not risk using both and getting caught and possibly ejected from the Con and restricted for future sales. It could also put the Pro who gave the badge to you at risk.

Exactly.  Is there a need for this person to keep the Pro badge? 
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: kappolo on May 07, 2013, 03:20:36 PM
If you have a pro badge you are not allowed in the presale.
At least this is what happened to me this year.
But, if you are verified for the next year it shouldn't be a problem (verification is due every 3 years).
Getting pro-badge is painless (no crashes, long queues, ...).
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 08, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
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There was a FB post where someone had complained to CCI that someone had both a pro and a regular badge and was going to use it to get exclusives and CCI asked them to email the info since they should not have both. Not sure what the end result is but I can only assume that CCI will continue to try and limit to 1 badge per person in order to make more available for everyone else.

First I wonder how this person came to have this information. Second, what information could they possibly report that could get that person in trouble or banned or whatever. Would CCI be able to van someone just because another person provided a random name. I would think it would be difficult to prove, unless they could actually catch the person with 2 badges.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on May 08, 2013, 11:00:33 AM
They would probably just look up the name and/or email address up in the system and then contact the accused. People are stupid. It wouldn't surprise if said person bragged about it to a friend, on a message board, or somewhere else online.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 08, 2013, 11:03:53 AM
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If you have a pro badge you are not allowed in the presale.
At least this is what happened to me this year.
But, if you are verified for the next year it shouldn't be a problem (verification is due every 3 years).
Getting pro-badge is painless (no crashes, long queues, ...).
I would assume this to be true, however remember this person is likely a guest of a pro and would not need to use their member id and thus CCI would have no way to keep them out of the pre-sale.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: The Gossamer on May 08, 2013, 11:21:49 AM
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I would assume this to be true, however remember this person is likely a guest of a pro and would not need to use their member id and thus CCI would have no way to keep them out of the pre-sale.

This is true and maybe the dual badge user would not get caught but as the old saying goes "loose lips sink ships".  :-X... Maybe a CCI operative has infiltrated this forum and is now spying on all of us! :o
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: kappolo on May 08, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
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I would assume this to be true, however remember this person is likely a guest of a pro and would not need to use their member id and thus CCI would have no way to keep them out of the pre-sale.
Sorry, I missed this detail.
Yes, if you are a guest of professional you are not in the pre-sale and also your professional is not guaranteed to have a guest spot next year. (They are really limited)
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: NovelInsanity on May 08, 2013, 12:13:40 PM
Just for the record, I had no intention of keeping both. :-) I was hoping that the pro badge would be treated as an upgrade and it would cancel the other one out for someone else to have. But since I don't want to be locked out of the presale for next year, I kept my regular one and declined the pro badge.

I'm an honest person and that's why I came here to the boards to ask before I made a decision. Hording extra badges isn't worth getting banned from Comic Con.  :-)
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 08, 2013, 01:17:31 PM
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They would probably just look up the name and/or email address up in the system and then contact the accused. People are stupid. It wouldn't surprise if said person bragged about it to a friend, on a message board, or somewhere else online.

Yep. I've seen people bragging online (in various places) about having multiple badges. It doesn't take much to report them.
Title: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: EnglishmanInSanDiego on May 08, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
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Yep. I've seen people bragging online (in various places) about having multiple badges. It doesn't take much to report them.

Where have you seen that, Jun? PM me  the links if necessary...


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Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 08, 2013, 03:45:14 PM
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Where have you seen that, Jun? PM me  the links if necessary...

PM sent.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 08, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
We are having this discussion based on a Facebook quote about someone who has 2 badges, 1 pro and 1 regular. What is the benefit of the pro badge?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 08, 2013, 04:59:44 PM
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We are having this discussion based on a Facebook quote about someone who has 2 badges, 1 pro and 1 regular. What is the benefit of the pro badge?

It includes Preview Night.

It has a separate (shorter) pickup line.

You get access to the pro lounge.

It is/can be free. (free for the pro plus maybe one guest)

If you are the pro, you can get 'approved' for 3 years at a time.

If you are the pro, you can buy one badge (4 days with PN) for anyone as your guest.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 08, 2013, 09:15:32 PM
How would this badge help someone get more exclusives (pertaining to the Facebook problem)?
It seems people have been hinting as if professionals can get in earlier. Stating that Hasbro will not sell to exhibitors or professionals... is this true?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Applescruff on May 08, 2013, 09:28:52 PM
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How would this badge help someone get more exclusives (pertaining to the Facebook problem)?
It seems people have been hinting as if professionals can get in earlier. Stating that Hasbro will not sell to exhibitors or professionals... is this true?
Yes, this is true.  I know of people who have both an exhibitor badge and a regular badge.  The exhibitor badge allows them to get in the hall early, but Hasbro will not sell to them.  So once they are in the hall they switch to their regular badge and line up early for the exclusives they wish to purchase.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 09, 2013, 06:14:56 AM
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Yes, this is true.  I know of people who have both an exhibitor badge and a regular badge.  The exhibitor badge allows them to get in the hall early, but Hasbro will not sell to them.  So once they are in the hall they switch to their regular badge and line up early for the exclusives they wish to purchase.

Exactly. It is not professionals who have an advantage in this situation, but the exhibitors.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 09, 2013, 11:14:55 AM
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I'm an honest person and that's why I came here to the boards to ask before I made a decision. Hording extra badges isn't worth getting banned from Comic Con.  :-)

Wasn't trying to call you out - just sharing something seen on the FB page that CCI directly responded to. Usually try and pay attention when they post on the FB page since it's to clarify something.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 09, 2013, 09:34:17 PM
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Yes, this is true.  I know of people who have both an exhibitor badge and a regular badge.  The exhibitor badge allows them to get in the hall early, but Hasbro will not sell to them.  So once they are in the hall they switch to their regular badge and line up early for the exclusives they wish to purchase.


I am not talking about the exhibitors, we all know they get in because they are supposed to bee running a booth. I am talking about the professional. Why complain about a professional who also has a regular badge unless they have some additional advantage? Most people are not going to horse badges just for the hell of it.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 10, 2013, 07:10:06 AM
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I am not talking about the exhibitors, we all know they get in because they are supposed to bee running a booth. I am talking about the professional. Why complain about a professional who also has a regular badge unless they have some additional advantage? Most people are not going to horse badges just for the hell of it.

But the attendee badge the professional has could have been sold to someone else, allowing another person to attend.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 10, 2013, 12:28:52 PM
What is the context of the facebook complaint? Did it not state that the guy was complaining about the person using the extra badge to buy exclusives? Clearly we would like any extra badges to go to a person in need of one. I really want to know the scenerio of what happened. Was the guy in front of him in line and he saw the switching of the badges? Or was it one of the not so smart braggers, just saying something somewhere on a blog or forum?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 10, 2013, 08:36:48 PM
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What is the context of the facebook complaint? Did it not state that the guy was complaining about the person using the extra badge to buy exclusives? Clearly we would like any extra badges to go to a person in need of one. I really want to know the scenerio of what happened. Was the guy in front of him in line and he saw the switching of the badges? Or was it one of the not so smart braggers, just saying something somewhere on a blog or forum?

From what I remember, the FB poster asking CCI said that they had first hand knowledge of a person using their other badge (the non-regular attendee one) to get access to the floor early and then use the attendee one to purchase exclusives and wanted CCI to be aware that this was what the badge holder was going to do again this year and what CCI would do about it.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Alai28 on May 15, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Today should be the last day for refunds.  Anyways...did anyone notice the presells for parking are almost all sold out around the convention center?  Another tough break for people with the frozen screen.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: TheTFReview on May 15, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
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Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask this, but I wasn't sure and I also wasn't sure if it'd be okay to start a new thread.

Anyhow, I was wondering if I already have a badge and a friend of mine secures me a professional badge for a panel, does the professional badge cancel out my regular one, or will I now have two? I know if you upgrade it cancels out the old ones, but I'm not sure about how professional badges work. Thanks for any help.

It'll cancel it out (at least that is how it works with press badges), and the old badge will go to resale.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Chris Hagish on May 16, 2013, 11:30:50 AM
The only two that are total sell outs are the CC itself and the Hilton (the best two parking lots). Looks like Campus lot has a few days sold out but those are just the main two for single day goers.  I think parking is more or less done for its major moves.  My advice to anyone thinking of it is to wait untill Campus is fully sold out and tailgate or MTS.  Until that happens save your 6$ a day BS charge
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: theresamather on May 17, 2013, 09:56:49 AM
For what it's worth, exhibitor badge registration has now opened. I'm assuming the leftovers from the allocation will go into the resale pool, which would be why it happens before the final resale.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2013, 01:02:01 PM
I thought the Exhibitors had already registered? Sorry, I'm just confused as to the process.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: theresamather on May 17, 2013, 01:20:19 PM
I was just sent the exhibitor reg link today.  The load in info and stuff was also just issued. As to the process, at least for the smaller vendors and artists alley, you have to provide proof of your California BOE seller's permit, then they release access to badges. I don't know if the process is staggered or if everyone got their access today.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2013, 01:35:07 PM
Okay, so it's not 'registration' in the sense of everyone is fighting for badges, but simply 'filling in information' after a previously approved (or conditionally approved) 'registration'?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: theresamather on May 17, 2013, 01:44:22 PM
A set amount of exhibitor badges automatically come with the space because it has to be staffed, but the extra attendee badges we can buy are limited and a cut off warning was sent with the link email, essentially the purchase allocation can be cut off at any time whether you use your allocation or not. When that happens we can still buy extra exhibitor badges at $250 each if we still need helpers and lose out on getting them attendee badges. We have to log in with our comic con id's to access our allocations. For my dealer table space, I get two exhibitor badges with the space and the right to buy two more attendee or exhibitor badges.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2013, 10:09:34 PM
Thanks for explaining the process. I had no idea it was so complex!
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: theresamather on May 18, 2013, 06:08:46 AM
I should mention, they raised the price of extra exhibitor badges to $250 a couple years ago to discourage exhibitors from buying badges they didn't absolutely need. The process for CCI is more complex than some other cons at this point partly because of first needing the valid California BOE permit if you're selling anything. I have a friend who just got placed in artists alley and she has to wait for the permit she just applied for before she can register for her badge. There's an office of the state board in town, which has computer kiosks that can print a copy of your permit in an emergency. I know this because I forgot mine one year. :P Workers there said comic con vendors had been coming in all day so they knew what was going on.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: ComicGirl on May 20, 2013, 02:38:57 PM
http://www.comic-con.org/cci/2013/2013-badge-resale
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 20, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
the resale will be in June
http://www.friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=1626.0
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on May 20, 2013, 04:00:35 PM
Good timing.  My Internet connection has been down all of last week and into the weekend.  I just got it fixed with a new modem this morning.

I checked the official notice on SDCCI's website and they provided a link to the badge prices, including the ones for four-day w/preview and four-day w/out preview.

Even if I don't get at least either a Friday or Saturday badge in addition to the Thursday and Sunday badges I already have, at least I can knock $200 off my hotel bill.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on May 21, 2013, 03:01:40 AM
@Andrew Costa Mesa - I have a feeling these numbers just relate to the past sale. Likely they didn't update the page...unless, of course, there ARE four days w/ preview gonna be available...hmmm
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 21, 2013, 03:40:57 AM
i tend to agree, prob. no 4 day badges

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Even if I don't get at least either a Friday or Saturday badge in addition to the Thursday and Sunday badges I already have, at least I can knock $200 off my hotel bill.

glass half full....
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 21, 2013, 04:30:21 AM
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i tend to agree, prob. no 4 day badges


Yup since they wouldn't be able to do refunds for upgrades so this might mean no PN either.

Plus individual days makes more badges available...
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 21, 2013, 06:33:52 AM
What's interesting is that they haven't made any announcements as to whether or not 4 day or Preview Night badges will be included. We'll just have to see what's there when they 'turn it on'...

Anyone with a 'priority invitation' email heard yet?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: karatekid on May 21, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
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Anyone with a 'priority invitation' email heard yet?

I'm curious too. I remember I was getting blasted suggesting that the concept of a "priority invitation" for all those "froze screen shots" was going to be impossible, a logistic nightmare and people were flaming me of how uncool that was for me to say. I believe it was Khanh who was one of the few who sort of agreed with me that to try to decipher who is priority, who gets this access or that was going to be crazy. Can you picture someone sitting there with all these screen shots trying to put some order in them?

I guess it's only May 21 but I'm tempted to give that classic "I told you so" line but I won't yet. I'll wait and see.  ;)
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 21, 2013, 04:58:01 PM
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I guess it's only May 21 but I'm tempted to give that classic "I told you so" line but I won't yet. I'll wait and see.  ;)

Don't say 'I told you so' until it's 100% certain that you're right. And even then... fate has a way of coming back to bite you in the a$$. ;)
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: rando on May 21, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
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What's interesting is that they haven't made any announcements as to whether or not 4 day or Preview Night badges will be included. We'll just have to see what's there when they 'turn it on'...
<snip>

Just noticed on the CCI website that 4 day and 4 day with Preview Badges are "sold out".

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/2013-badge-purchase

As many here have surmised it seems that only single days and no preview night badges will be offered in the resale so far...
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 21, 2013, 06:12:26 PM
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<snip>

Just noticed on the CCI website that 4 day and 4 day with Preview Badges are "sold out".

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/2013-badge-purchase

As many here have surmised it seems that only single days and no preview night badges will be offered in the resale so far...

Good eye, Rando! I think that answers that question. It's a shame, because I have a friend who needs Preview Night, but I can see how this is better in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Applescruff on May 21, 2013, 08:59:23 PM
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What's interesting is that they haven't made any announcements as to whether or not 4 day or Preview Night badges will be included. We'll just have to see what's there when they 'turn it on'...

Anyone with a 'priority invitation' email heard yet?
I have a priority invitation email and have not received or heard anything.  For the general masses, I'm glad CCI has finally announced something regarding the resales.  However, I must admit I'm rather distressed that we priority invitation folk have not heard anything yet.  Glass half full - we may still hear something before the general sale; glass half empty - we may be completely forgotten.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 21, 2013, 09:17:06 PM
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I have a priority invitation email and have not received or heard anything.  For the general masses, I'm glad CCI has finally announced something regarding the resales.  However, I must admit I'm rather distressed that we priority invitation folk have not heard anything yet.  Glass half full - we may still hear something before the general sale; glass half empty - we may be completely forgotten.

Wouldn't worry too much. Makes sense to just announce a general timeframe for a resale before dealing w/ any priority since if they announced priority first, that info would just leak to everyone else anyways and then cause a bigger rumbling with everyone else. This way, I think they can start to line up dates and coordinate things and how they would feasibly do priority and then open it up. At least that's what makes some sense to me...
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 21, 2013, 09:20:07 PM
It could also be that they were dealing with so many, 'the deadline has passed, when s the resale?' messages that they simply wanted to make an official announcement.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on May 21, 2013, 09:57:59 PM
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@Andrew Costa Mesa - I have a feeling these numbers just relate to the past sale. Likely they didn't update the page...unless, of course, there ARE four days w/ preview gonna be available...hmmm

Yep, you're right.  They didn't update the page when I last checked.  They have now.  No preview night for me or anybody who fell victim to the white screen of death during both pre-reg and general sales.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 21, 2013, 10:42:15 PM
I think it's time for those of us with so called "priority invitaition" emails to email CCI and see what they plan do do for that considering they are planning a resale...

What day of the week was the resale last year?

How conveinent that the resale is scheduled after the 2nd hotel refund date...
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on May 21, 2013, 11:10:49 PM
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What day of the week was the resale last year?

Last year, it was on Thursday, May 31 at 8am PDT/11am EDT.

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How conveinent that the resale is scheduled after the 2nd hotel refund date...

Unlike last year, I booked my hotel reservations outside of Travel Planners and I can cancel my reservations as late as the same week of Comic-Con without penalty.  Of course, I won't be staying as close to the site as the downtown hotels on the shuttle route but it's better than nothing.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 22, 2013, 04:59:03 AM
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I have a priority invitation email ....<snip>... we may be completely forgotten.
While i do not have a conformation regarding priority sale, I strongly believe CCI has not forgotten about the priority invitation emails folks.  I don't have an idea on how it will be implemented but I am sure they have a plan.  It's up to us to be patience.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Dandare on May 22, 2013, 06:50:13 AM
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It'll cancel it out (at least that is how it works with press badges), and the old badge will go to resale.

Since you said that your friend would secure a professional badge for you, I'm guessing that you are talking about Guest badge

The professional that is getting the badges must have and Member ID, but you only need to inform First Name and Last Name (of the guest) when getting a professional guest badge. So if the badge that your friend secured for you is, indeed, a Guest badge, CCI won't be able to match your name with the ID and they will not cancel your previous badge. You'll have two badges.



Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Dandare on May 22, 2013, 07:37:36 AM
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Last year, it was on Thursday, May 31 at 8am PDT/11am EDT.


After the problems with whitescreen I think they will take sometime to prepare for the Resale. Sure, there will be less badges, but I guess that there will be as many people trying to get badges as there was in the first sale (or at least waaaaayyyy more than 50.000 that was the waiting room max capacity). So if they don't plan this right, we'll se the same issues we had before.

I guessing the resale will take place around second week of June.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Arogers8388 on May 22, 2013, 08:03:13 AM
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While i do not have a conformation regarding priority sale, I strongly believe CCI has not forgotten about the priority invitation emails folks.  I don't have an idea on how it will be implemented but I am sure they have a plan.  It's up to us to be patience.

I absolutely agree. Nothing in the announcement indicates that they will go back on their previous word. And it's important to keep in mind that they never made the announcement to the public that the screenshot people will get priority invitations- they emailed us and the news spread from there. I'm sure they got enough whiny messages about how unfair THAT was from people who didn't get the priority invite (because there is no way to make everyone happy) so they'll probably continue to keep the communication just to email for screenshot people. I'm just hoping that A) once we get our emails people don't spread the link so that everyone's trying to get in (though I know it will inevitably happen) and B) I have the chance to buy 2. Still staying positive but the wait from May 15 to the June resale is going to be harder than the one from February to now!
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 22, 2013, 08:36:35 AM
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...snip... it's important to keep in mind that they never made the announcement to the public that the screenshot people will get priority invitations- they emailed us and the news spread from there. I'm sure they got enough whiny messages about how unfair THAT was from people who didn't get the priority invite (because there is no way to make everyone happy) so they'll probably continue to keep the communication just to email for screenshot people.

Agreed, & good point.  keep an eye on your email.

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I'm just hoping that A) once we get our emails people don't spread the link so that everyone's trying to get in (though I know it will inevitably happen) and B) I have the chance to buy 2. Still staying positive but the wait from May 15 to the June resale is going to be harder than the one from February to now!

Question A)  I have to hope the only people who can access the system will be the people who have been invited to participate in the sale.
Question B) IMNOHO, they have to offer *at least* 2 badges/ log on.  A good argument could be made for the same # as the original sale.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: wikkibird on May 22, 2013, 08:54:59 AM
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Agreed, & good point.  keep an eye on your email.

Question A)  I have to hope the only people who can access the system will be the people who have been invited to participate in the sale.
Question B) IMNOHO, they have to offer *at least* 2 badges/ log on.  A good argument could be made for the same # as the original sale.

Okay, but question... what about a person like me who didn't get the priority email and hasn't officially been "invited" to participate in the sale? Yes, I still need two Saturday badges? I'm willing to try to not only get my own two, but to help others out who need them (yes, I am a part of that thread) and who weren't able to get anything because of the white screen or failed waiting room...
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Applescruff on May 22, 2013, 11:09:25 AM
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While i do not have a conformation regarding priority sale, I strongly believe CCI has not forgotten about the priority invitation emails folks.  I don't have an idea on how it will be implemented but I am sure they have a plan.  It's up to us to be patience.
Yes, I agree.  My mantra this year has been Patience.  Hope.  Pray.
Thanks for everyone's positive thoughts & support - it really keeps my spirits up!
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Dandare on May 22, 2013, 11:18:36 AM
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Okay, but question... what about a person like me who didn't get the priority email and hasn't officially been "invited" to participate in the sale?


That's the real question here. Everyone had problems at the badge sale but only those who were able to take a printscreen will get the priority invitation. Some people had issues while using a tablet or a cellphone, with no way to take a screenshot.

Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Applescruff on May 22, 2013, 11:20:30 AM
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I absolutely agree. Nothing in the announcement indicates that they will go back on their previous word. And it's important to keep in mind that they never made the announcement to the public that the screenshot people will get priority invitations- they emailed us and the news spread from there. I'm sure they got enough whiny messages about how unfair THAT was from people who didn't get the priority invite (because there is no way to make everyone happy) so they'll probably continue to keep the communication just to email for screenshot people. I'm just hoping that A) once we get our emails people don't spread the link so that everyone's trying to get in (though I know it will inevitably happen) and B) I have the chance to buy 2. Still staying positive but the wait from May 15 to the June resale is going to be harder than the one from February to now!
Yes, Arogers, I completely agree!  A) Hopefully no one would be foolish enough to blow our final and best chance at getting a badge (although I do agree that someone certainly will) and B) wouldn't it be delightful if we could get more than one?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: wikkibird on May 22, 2013, 11:22:57 AM
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That's the real question here. Everyone had problems at the badge sale but only those who were able to take a printscreen will get the priority invitation. Some people had issues while using a tablet or a cellphone, with no way to take a screenshot.

Exactly! And I'm sure that the link will be posted online somewhere (it always is), I did not get that email, but I need/want to take advantage of the priority invitation. All I need are two Saturday badges, dang it!
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: alyssa on May 22, 2013, 04:34:20 PM
i really think the only people who will be able to get badges in their names will be the people invited to the sale.  CCI has been able to limit sales to specific groups in the past so there's no reason to believe they won't be able to do so again.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: karl clement on May 22, 2013, 06:27:42 PM
My biggest worry is that not all of these great people won't badges.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: conventiongeek on May 22, 2013, 09:58:28 PM
Arogers8388 and I are teamed up for the resale, however maybe we should set up a second Thread just for those with a priority invitation. We both have a priority invitation so that is a good start.  I am hoping that my team of people are in a similar boat, however realistically I am guessing the # of badges we will be able to purchase will be limited and we may not be able to help each other at all.

I agree with alot of what was said, but most importantly...if there is a link for the priority invitation, no one needs to post it or perhaps they should be warned or suspended from the forum. Similar to the hotel sale, if was frustrating that someone who signed up that day just happened to be in the right time right place and grabbed an extra hotel from someone and that some active members were left out. There were 3 days to choose or give away your hotel and most people gave away their hotel to the first person that chimed in reguardless if they had just signed up that day. I'm sure alot of those same people have not been heard of since. I want to mention that I gave away one of my hotels, however if was not to the first person who PM'd me. I looked over the number of posts and took notice of when they signed up on the forum. I held it for a day and a half before giving it away.

Oh, sorry to those that missed out during the first resale. However, CCI clearly mentioned that if you have a problem such as a frozen screen, to do a print screen and send it in. If you were using a device that day which did not allow you to have a print screen, you can not be too upset about it. You should have been better prepared. I heard that people who sent in a print screen of the white page recieved a priority invitation email... so we just need to be sure that we are creative, that we follow CCI directions and that we do not ASSUME anything...
Good luck to all, sorry I am felling a little disgruntled this evening.   
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 23, 2013, 04:17:11 AM
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I agree with alot of what was said, but most importantly...if there is a link for the priority invitation, no one needs to post it or perhaps they should be warned or suspended from the forum.

Hmm...let's see what CCI says in their communication before we determine the best way to approach this. If CCI says the link only works if you've provided your Member ID (essentially restricting it to specific people - akin to how it goes for vendors or whatever). If it's an open link that's sent to specific people (like how the "priority" volunteer link just leaked out), then obviously we wouldn't want that to get out to the wrong hands.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 23, 2013, 10:19:34 AM
To br fair, the 'private' link for the TP hotel waitlist was posted here and people were awesome about not sharing that with the world. I think members here realize that if something good is posted, they need to keep quiet so that it retains its value.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on May 23, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
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To br fair, the 'private' link for the TP hotel waitlist was posted here and people were awesome about not sharing that with the world. I think members here realize that if something good is posted, they need to keep quiet so that it retains its value.

demand for badges much different than demand for hotels. but yes, we have good forum members here who look out for one another...
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: mynamehere on June 01, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Hi all,
So I started planning my trip to SDCC 2013 at the beginning of the year.  At first I was hoping to volunteer but although I signed up for a member ID I didn’t received any notification of volunteer registration opening- only found out after the fact. I planned to buy a badge during the original sale but I messed up the time difference between Pacific Time and my local time here in Canberra, Australia so I missed to whole thing  :(. Now I am hearing about priority members, people already receiving resale links and I am just wondering if there is ANY chance I am going to get a badge in the resale since I was not part of the original sale?
Title: Questions...
Post by: mynamehere on June 01, 2013, 08:11:20 PM
Hi all,
So I started planning my trip to SDCC 2013 at the beginning of the year.  At first I was hoping to volunteer but although I signed up for a member ID I didn’t received any notification of volunteer registration opening- only found out after the fact. I planned to buy a badge during the original sale but I messed up the time difference between Pacific Time and my local time here in Canberra, Australia so I missed to whole thing  :(. Now I am hearing about priority members, people already receiving resale links and I am just wondering if there is ANY chance I am going to get a badge in the resale since I was not part of the original sale?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Zero on June 01, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
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Hi all,
So I started planning my trip to SDCC 2013 at the beginning of the year.  At first I was hoping to volunteer but although I signed up for a member ID I didn’t received any notification of volunteer registration opening- only found out after the fact. I planned to buy a badge during the original sale but I messed up the time difference between Pacific Time and my local time here in Canberra, Australia so I missed to whole thing  :(. Now I am hearing about priority members, people already receiving resale links and I am just wondering if there is ANY chance I am going to get a badge in the resale since I was not part of the original sale?


My advice is to team up with someone, or a group of people, on the forums (see this thread (http://www.friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=1286.msg29503#msg29503)--pay attention to the information in the post I linked) and try for badges together to increase your chances at getting a badge.  At this point, most, if not all, of the available types of badges are single days, and the likelihood of getting a 4-day badge might not even be an available option (mostly because CCI would split up any 4-day badges into single-day badges).
Title: Re: Questions...
Post by: krod on June 01, 2013, 08:27:20 PM
You can still participate in the regular resale even if you didn't participate in the original sale, there's still a chance ^-^   
Title: Re: Questions...
Post by: Zero on June 01, 2013, 08:29:36 PM
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Hi all,
So I started planning my trip to SDCC 2013 at the beginning of the year.  At first I was hoping to volunteer but although I signed up for a member ID I didn’t received any notification of volunteer registration opening- only found out after the fact. I planned to buy a badge during the original sale but I messed up the time difference between Pacific Time and my local time here in Canberra, Australia so I missed to whole thing  :(. Now I am hearing about priority members, people already receiving resale links and I am just wondering if there is ANY chance I am going to get a badge in the resale since I was not part of the original sale?


Forum Housekeeping:
Since this post was already made in this thread (http://www.friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=1290.msg31319#msg31319), I will merge this to the other thread in the "Registration" section.

^-^d  (It's mostly to avoid confusion with threads on the same topic and cross-posting with different areas of the forum, so don't worry if there happens to be a duplicate post in this particular thread.  I will also PM mynamehere, just to make sure he or she sees the latest replies.)
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Juancu99 on June 09, 2013, 10:09:06 AM
I need adult tickets please!    do you know when they are going to be available?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: retired on June 09, 2013, 11:57:07 AM
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I need adult tickets please!    do you know when they are going to be available?

Nobody knows yet, except that it will be between sometime tomorrow and the end of the month.
Make sure you have a member ID for each person that needs a badge, and that you are opted in to receive emails on the member ID options. You will get an email the day before, or perhaps a few days before the resale. http://www.comic-con.org/cci/2013/2013-badge-resale

Get some friends and family to help you get onto the resale webpage (link will be in the email you receive) the exact millisecond the page goes live. Or if you have incompetent friends like me, you can team up with people here and help each other out. (it might be too late to get into a group here though).
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Ally.kat on June 09, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
Hello,

I'd like to team up with someone for the badge resale.  Anyone looking for a buddy for this? 

Thank you.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: RSilvaConFan on June 10, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
"Due to the very limited number of badges available and our vendor EPIC Registration being focused on coordinating onsite registration...." - What onsite registration? Or are they referring to on-site badge pick-up?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on June 10, 2013, 12:33:20 PM
I hope there will be no onsite registration.  I don't want to have to get up at the crack of dawn and miss out on panels.  I prefer the online pre-registration, even though it only got me a Thursday and Saturday badge.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: CptMyCpt24 on June 10, 2013, 12:34:19 PM
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"Due to the very limited number of badges available and our vendor EPIC Registration being focused on coordinating onsite registration...." - What onsite registration? Or are they referring to on-site badge pick-up?

Maybe On-site 2014 sales?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Angology on June 10, 2013, 12:35:50 PM
I am pretty sure they are referring to badge pick-up. I believe Epic is involved in that aspect of it also.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 10, 2013, 12:40:53 PM
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Maybe On-site 2014 sales?

That was my thought too. It does seem like CCI is doing their best to deal with the problems that result from announced badge sales.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: CptMyCpt24 on June 10, 2013, 12:46:48 PM
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That was my thought too. It does seem like CCI is doing their best to deal with the problems that result from announced badge sales.

That process was IMO easier to deal with if you were were willing to wait, but was only open to people with a valid badge for that day.  They updated you on passes remaining and when I got to the computer I was done in ~5 minutes.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 10, 2013, 12:53:03 PM
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That process was IMO easier to deal with if you were were willing to wait, but was only open to people with a valid badge for that day.  They updated you on passes remaining and when I got to the computer I was done in ~5 minutes.

I completely agree. I am still sore that they no longer offer onsite pre-registration. I would rather wait for a badge for hours than have this uncertainty.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: karl clement on June 10, 2013, 01:03:33 PM
Are international members going to be allowed to be guests? Any clue?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 10, 2013, 01:10:00 PM
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Are international members going to be allowed to be guests? Any clue?

I would think so. It only says that international people cannot participate in the lottery. But if someone from the US or Canada enters the lottery and gets a spot, presumably they could use their second spot for someone who is international (and did not have a 4 day or Saturday badge already).
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: CptMyCpt24 on June 10, 2013, 01:19:01 PM
What hurts is some of us cannot help since we are not eligible.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 10, 2013, 01:29:06 PM
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What hurts is some of us cannot help since we are not eligible.

I agree. And one of the people I had promised to help was international. She can't enter the lottery herself either.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on June 10, 2013, 02:56:13 PM
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I am pretty sure they are referring to badge pick-up. I believe Epic is involved in that aspect of it also.

Yes - as far as I know, badge pickup has been referred to as onsite registration. Future year sales are pre-reg. No mention of pre-reg anywhere and WAY too early for CCI to even hint at that topic.

Most likely EPIC realized their system couldn't handle badge purchases the way CCI wanted (based on last week's issues w/ the priority screenshot people who were trying to buy badges if they already had at badges on some days) so this was the only other alternative.

I would NOT expect the lottery to be the standard going forward since CCI has also stated that they can't do it due to legalities in some countries and there is NO WAY they'd restrict pre-reg and general sale to only US and Canada.

In other words, this sucks for folks without badges but for those with badges, much ado about nothing.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: IfIWereMagneto on June 10, 2013, 03:47:30 PM
So now the only people that can help anyone are those without badges ( or those who have any except for 4 day/Saturday) in the USA and Canada because they are the only ones eligible...

Good luck to those in need of badges then.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: karl clement on June 10, 2013, 03:52:37 PM
Has anyone who does not have a badge been able to register yet?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 10, 2013, 03:55:47 PM
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Has anyone who does not have a badge been able to register yet?

I think by register they mean 'register for a Member ID'.
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: karl clement on June 10, 2013, 04:14:11 PM
what I am wondering is has one in the group who has no badges been able to register for the pre-sale lottery?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: lawboysam on June 10, 2013, 04:33:58 PM
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what I am wondering is has one in the group who has no badges been able to register for the pre-sale lottery?

I have a friend with no badges who signed up for the pre-sale lottery and she has no badges. You just had to already have a Member ID before it closed and meet their criteria (ie, no Saturday badge, US/Canadian citizen).
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: karl clement on June 10, 2013, 06:34:50 PM
is there any guess how many badges you can purchase? what are the limits?
Title: Re: CCI 2013 Badge Resale Question Thread
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 10, 2013, 06:47:48 PM
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is there any guess how many badges you can purchase? what are the limits?

CCI has stated that you can buy a badge for the 'lottery winner' in the resale, as well as 1 other person.

Just to be clear, there is no PRE-sale lottery. There has been NO announcement yet for 2014 pre-sales. We are talking about the badge RE-sale for 2013.