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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1080 on: May 27, 2021, 03:19:30 PM »
Californians who got at least one shot of the Covid-19 vaccine will be entered in a lottery where ten lucky winners will each get $1.5M. Those who earlier got their shots are already automatically entered.  The winners will be announced June 15, the day California opens up.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1081 on: May 27, 2021, 05:22:31 PM »
Unlike MegaMillions and Powerball winners, vaccine lottery winners can be anonymous, so the world doesn’t have to know you won.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1082 on: May 27, 2021, 06:13:11 PM »
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Unlike MegaMillions and Powerball winners, vaccine lottery winners can be anonymous, so the world doesn’t have to know you won.

I'm sure the IRS will know that you've won....

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1083 on: May 27, 2021, 06:14:28 PM »
I could buy a lot of $1 comics with $1.5M.  I'll have to check the math...

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1084 on: May 27, 2021, 08:45:31 PM »
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I'm sure the IRS will know that you've won....
Gotta love the IRS!
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1085 on: May 27, 2021, 11:46:07 PM »
The first vaccine millionaire(pre tax) was minted in Ohio today.

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Unlike MegaMillions and Powerball winners, vaccine lottery winners can be anonymous, so the world doesn’t have to know you won.

It depends on the state.  Some will allow winners to stay anonymous.  Otherwise you can shield your identity by forming a LLC in a state that doesn't disclose a LLC's members to the public.  Then have the LLC claim the lottery win.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1086 on: May 28, 2021, 11:41:10 AM »
Pfizer hopes to get results of their booster shot this July and, assuming the results are good, plan to seek FDA approval that same month.  Moderna is working on three booster candidates.  The boosters from both companies can either be a third shot or a vaccine that targets the variants out there now.  There is disagreement over how long their original vaccines are effective.  Both companies say their original vaccines are good for six to eight months, but other experts believe they can be effective for up to a year.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1087 on: May 29, 2021, 11:03:57 AM »
I didn't realize until his monologue last night that Bill Maher is a breakthrough case.  He was fully vaccinated yet got covid.  Fortunately with no symptoms.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1088 on: May 29, 2021, 07:29:31 PM »
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I didn't realize until his monologue last night that Bill Maher is a breakthrough case.  He was fully vaccinated yet got covid.  Fortunately with no symptoms.

He announced it two weeks ago on Twitter and Instagram.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1089 on: May 29, 2021, 07:30:05 PM »
There is a new coronavirus variant in Vietnam believed to be dangerous, but it is not clear how it reacts to vaccines.  This is in addition to Brazil, Britain, India and South Africa.  Vietnam was one of the few success stories in keeping the coronavirus at bay, similar to Australia and New Zealand.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1090 on: May 30, 2021, 10:45:04 AM »
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I didn't realize until his monologue last night that Bill Maher is a breakthrough case.  He was fully vaccinated yet got covid.  Fortunately with no symptoms.
and he's in an industry where they _have_ to periodically be tested which is the only reason why he found out (just like the majority of the 8 Yankees cases that were high profile news).  Many of the COVID positive breakthrough cases were because of non-symptomatic testing for other reasons (for example, my wife who works at the County Office of Ed has to get tested periodically to come to her office): meaning, the vaccine is doing its job of keeping people safe from symptoms, hospitalizations, and death with a virtual statistical anomaly when it doesn't.

Did Maher say which vaccine he had?  I found it interesting the Yankees cases were all J&J (which has a lower efficacy rate than Moderna or Pfizer)

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1091 on: May 30, 2021, 07:18:59 PM »
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Did Maher say which vaccine he had?  I found it interesting the Yankees cases were all J&J (which has a lower efficacy rate than Moderna or Pfizer)

He didn't say.  My speculation is that it's a MRNA vaccine.  J&J didn't come on the scene until late and then it was paused.  Maher is older so he qualified before the J&J vaccine was available.  Considering the production environment, they probably had to get vaccinated as soon as possible.

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meaning, the vaccine is doing its job of keeping people safe from symptoms, hospitalizations, and death with a virtual statistical anomaly when it doesn't.

Which is the endpoint of the vaccine trials.  To prevent death.  Unfortunately that messaging has been bungled.  So when people hear that it's 95% or even 100% effective.  They think it will prevent them from getting covid.  That was not a consideration for the trials.  Which leds to risky behavior since many vaccinated think they are invulnerable.  They aren't.  With dropping the mask mandates, we've set up a great environment to breed vaccine resistant covid.  The un-vaccinated will spread it freely.  Some vaccinated will catch covid.  As evolution goes, we've set up the environmental conditions for variants to see if they can defeat the vaccines.  There's a reason that you are supposed to take the entire course of antibiotics even after you feel better.  It's to try to kill the bacteria that have a predisposition to be antibiotic resistant.  Killing the normal bacteria and leaving the ones that are resistant just evolves more resistant bacteria.  Which is what we are dealing with now.  Knowing all that, we still decided to forego all those concerns with covid.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
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So when people hear that it's 95% or even 100% effective.  They think it will prevent them from getting covid.  That was not a consideration for the trials.  Which leds to risky behavior since many vaccinated think they are invulnerable.  They aren't.

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Which is the endpoint of the vaccine trials.  To prevent death.  Unfortunately that messaging has been bungled.  So when people hear that it's 95% or even 100% effective.  They think it will prevent them from getting covid.  That was not a consideration for the trials.  Which leds to risky behavior since many vaccinated think they are invulnerable.  They aren't.  With dropping the mask mandates, we've set up a great environment to breed vaccine resistant covid.  The un-vaccinated will spread it freely.  Some vaccinated will catch covid.  As evolution goes, we've set up the environmental conditions for variants to see if they can defeat the vaccines.  There's a reason that you are supposed to take the entire course of antibiotics even after you feel better.  It's to try to kill the bacteria that have a predisposition to be antibiotic resistant.  Killing the normal bacteria and leaving the ones that are resistant just evolves more resistant bacteria.  Which is what we are dealing with now.  Knowing all that, we still decided to forego all those concerns with covid.
1. I agree that messaging from the CDC and elsewhere has been bungled, and still is today. It’s one reason why we are seeing lotteries now to entice people to get vaccinated. As for masks requirements being relaxed, gotta show that vaccines are legit and do as advertised. So far, they are and the current numbers show it.

2. Trust the vaccines especially the good ones the US uses. You have been saying to trust science since last year, but not now? Regardless, stay positive. This pandemic will be beat.

3. Live. Wear a mask after being vaccinated if someone wants to, but live. Focus on yourself and use good judgement, but let others be. Overall, we all will get the virus, and we gotta accept that, but the main goal in getting vaccinated is to not play Russian roulette with the virus. Also, SARS-CoV-2 is not Ebola. It’s still a naughty virus, though.

4. Lastly, boosters will be out sooner than you think, the blueprint is there to fight the virus that causes COVID-19, which still mutants slowly. Heck, the NYT shared last week that immunity to COVID-19 may last longer than originally thought.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1094 on: May 30, 2021, 10:24:42 PM »
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1. I agree that messaging from the CDC and elsewhere has been bungled, and still is today. It’s one reason why we are seeing lotteries now to entice people to get vaccinated. As for masks requirements being relaxed, gotta show that vaccines are legit and do as advertised. So far, they are and the current numbers show it.

Which is what other countries thought before they fell off a new covid cliff.  They thought they were in the clear through vaccination or had developed natural immunity after recovering from infection.  They weren't.  Their numbers were great until they weren't.  I believe the decision was political, not science based.  The CDC flipped from it's not time yet to let's drop everything over a couple of days.  What happened during those 2 days?  There was no new paper that changed the landscape.  What happened was a grilling on The Hill.  Dropping the masking recommendation has been widely criticized.

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2. Trust the vaccines especially the good ones the US uses. You have been saying to trust science since last year, but not now? Regardless, stay positive. This pandemic will be beat.

I do trust the science.  The science is telling us we aren't there yet.  The clinical trials aren't even done.  The Phase 3 clinical trial for the BioNTech vaccine is ongoing for example.  The science is still in progress.  Recently the WHO has started an investigation into why 37% of the people that test positive for covid in the most vaccinated country in the world are the fully vaccinated.  That country thought it beat the pandemic and dropped their guard.  They stopped wearing masks.  Now they are ramping up into another surge.

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3. Live. Wear a mask after being vaccinated if someone wants to, but live. Focus on yourself and use good judgement, but let others be. Overall, we all will get the virus, and we gotta accept that, but the main goal in getting vaccinated is to not play Russian roulette with the virus. Also, SARS-CoV-2 is not Ebola. It’s still a naughty virus, though.

That attitude is what has led to 600,000 covid deaths in the US.  Pandemics are not a time to focus on yourself.  Pandemics are a time to focus on society.  Think of others.  Don't think only on yourself.  The countries that have beat covid did exactly that.  People considered how their actions would effect others.  They didn't focus only on themselves.

Accepting that we all will get the virus is what is playing Russian Roulette.  That's not how you stop a pandemic.  You stop a pandemic by stopping transmission.  Not by providing a playground for it to mutate.  The more people that are infected, even when showing no symptoms, the more it will mutate.  The more vaccinated people that are infected, the more likely it will mutate to defeat the vaccines.