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Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on March 30, 2013, 11:52:45 PM
So there's still one more day left but since it's Easter Sunday and not everyone will be back, I thought we could start getting some feedback as to how things went this year at WonderCon in Anaheim and what people liked, didn't like, etc.

I'm glad it didn't rain. Traffic was still a pain but just as bad as any major city so as long as you're prepared and gave yourself a time buffer, you were fine.

The food options were solid thanks to a good variety at the food court in the Hilton, the presence of the food trucks and more variety inside the convention center including the arena. Would still bring food in when possible but still pretty good options conveniently located.

Disappointed w/ what seemed to be fewer exhibitors *cough*Marvel*cough* and not a ton of panels. Hopefully it was just b/c it was Easter weekend and studios didn't want to commit as many resources. Kinda felt like you could do almost everything in one day and be done with it.

Really enjoyed the arena experience. The stadium seating gave everyone a good view. Gotta be careful of the steps though. Anyone know what the capacity was? Thought room 300AB was a decent size and could be rearranged to be even bigger if needed since there was still a ton of unused space in the back so overall, the space is there to handle big crowds should they bring more panels in.

Thought the fountain area outside the convention center was awesome. Ended up being a great place for cosplayers to hang out and ham it up on the stage for all the cameras. Some of the photographers did a great job organizing photo ops by group (all Marvel or GI Joe and then Cobra, etc) so it made for some fun photos. Was just a cool hangout spot and helped decrease the stop/start traffic that usually occurs inside b/c everyone's trying to take pictures of everything.

Please add your thoughts on what went well and what you'd like to see if CCI decides to put another show here in Anaheim.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on March 31, 2013, 12:24:57 AM
I give an F to the people in yellow and black shirts who didn't seem to know where attendees could go to pick up badges.  Asked one of them who referred to his list which didn't seem to answer my question.  Asked another who used his 2-way radio to get the answer, of which nobody had an answer for him as well.  Finally, I saw one of the attendees with a 3-day badge (the same badge I ordered) and just asked him where he got his badge and I got my answer.  Preparation is key!

Friday, I was at the Arena (WonderCon's smaller version of Hall H) and got to see an episode of the CW's "Arrow".  Earlier, I went to a jobs panel for people who can't write or draw but still want to break into the comic industry.  I also visited the exhibitor's hall, which didn't seem to have a large assortment of vendors unlike the San Diego Comic-Con, but there was no shortage of comic book vendors.  I bought a few comics, something I would have done at the San Diego Comic Con if I wasn't sick on the last day.

Seemed Saturday was the only day that had interesting panels.  Got to see the cast of NBC's "Revolution".  Also saw the cast of the upcoming film "The Moral Instruments: City of Bones", to be released by Sony Pictures on August 23.  Then I got to see the panel I was waiting for, the remake of "The Evil Dead", coming out next Friday (April 5).  The cast was there including Producer and original "Evil Dead" alumni Bruce Campbell.  He alone made that panel very entertaining!

I currently don't have any plans for attending on Sunday, but if I do, it will be a last-minute decision.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Car_Low on March 31, 2013, 10:00:33 AM
My only gripe that CCi has control of is spacing between booths. It's not like SDCC where space is at a premium. the booths towards hall A especiialy was pretty tight compared to others around the convention center and I saw some room to spread it out a bit to allow better flow of traffic.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on March 31, 2013, 11:34:22 AM
The only 4 complaints I have are kind of petty. It was on Easter Weekend (had to miss Sunday due to family stuff), no Marvel, no Lucas, and the Swag was still lacking (don't get me wrong got some free books at Dark Horse, but over all swag was lacking). I thought it was much better then last year. I still had an awesome time. It was a great warm up for SDCC. Most of the days I felt kind of rushed trying to make it to the signings and find everyone. It was a first person shooter version of "Where's Waldo." It was a great time! Sad to see it gone, but we have SDCC 4 months away.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: funkybutton on March 31, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
Swag was lacking for sure. I also felt the staff was pretty rude, that wasn't the case last year. I had one guy yell and me and give me a really hard time because I wanted to take the stairs instead of the escalators, which didn't even seem like a problem the rest of the time.... just that once. Really why do you care if I want to take the stairs??

Otherwise.... I had a pretty good time Friday. I didn't go Saturday because I waited to late and it sold out, but there were panels that I would have gone to see. I didn't go today (Sunday) because there weren't any panels that I wanted to see, which was a shame. I think my only other complaint was the disorganization and what seemed like a totally unneeded line to get in... I literally walked the length of the entire building 3X in that line, and I was almost late and got a crappy seat for the panel I wanted to see (and got there in more than enough time to be early) because of it. I guess it was to control some imagined mad rush going to the floor, which isn't where I was headed. It just seemed like they could have just let people in like they did last year and it would have been fine.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 31, 2013, 05:58:12 PM
As far as arena capacity, at the talkback panel, CCI said that the capacity of the arena was very similar to the capacity of the big room 300 ballroom setup they used last year. He didn't give numbers though.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: TheTFReview on March 31, 2013, 06:15:54 PM
The Arena seats 7,500 not counting the floor seating. So I'd say there were about 4,200-4,500. The ballroom when used to max capacity seated 3,800ish. Those are just my guesstimates.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: rabbitwarren on March 31, 2013, 06:31:28 PM
First Wondercon.  Before, I've experienced both extremes, the small hotel conventions and SDCC so didn't know how to compare these experiences.  Overall, I'd say this is somewhere between a B+/A-.  The quality of panels I went to (BSG, Superman, Warner,sony,Joss whedon, nerdist, arrow) were good except for Revolution which sucked and actually ended early.  I think the convention is missing 1 or 2 big panels and a few more major vendors(and that's not counting marvel) to really make it an alternative for people who couldn't go to SDCC.  That's not to say I want this to get any bigger.  I liked being able to wait only half an hour in line for Joss Whedon and still get a good seat and aside from waiting 2hours to get the shirt and DC exclusives, I liked going around the exhibit hall and being able to chat with the vendors and artists and not feel like being swarmed by a crowd. 

My only gripe is that I am really sensitive to smells
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 31, 2013, 06:35:27 PM
That's an interesting review.

At the talkback panel, one of the people said that this year's WonderCon was 90% of the good stuff about SDCC without 90% of the bad stuff. IMHO those percentages are somewhat high. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: rabbitwarren on March 31, 2013, 06:45:11 PM
I think those percentages are a little high.  If there were a few more good exclusives, more swag, and maybe Man of Steel, Iron Man, or Star Trek panels, then it'd be a 90.  And the line for DC stuff was a lot longer than anything I waited for in SDCC.  Also missing was the area really getting into the spirit of it.  Aside from the banners, you couldn't tell Wondercon was in town.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on March 31, 2013, 07:16:32 PM
Wondercon will never be the level of SDCC. It will always be the little brother/sister of the big show and Ape is the red headed step child of it. In my opinion it surpassed last year. WC still has to work out several kinks in the system. You need to remember that this is Anaheim first real major con. Yes they had Blizzard, Anime, and Wizard World two years. Those past cons compared to this weekend was like comparing a pop Warner team to the Super Bowl champs. A great con will always find ways to grow and become better. Heck would of thought last year panels would have been filled, days being sold out, or a huge line for DC exclusives. I think WC was a success this year. Now if it stays the same next year then I will change my mind. Plus if there was a con just like SDCC then the big, then SDCC would loose it's magic. Trans you've been to both locations, have you been able to see WC grow and change?
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: perc2100 on March 31, 2013, 07:51:30 PM
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That's an interesting review.

At the talkback panel, one of the people said that this year's WonderCon was 90% of the good stuff about SDCC without 90% of the bad stuff. IMHO those percentages are somewhat high. What do you guys think?

I would agree that it has most of the stuff I love about SDCC minus most of the stuff I hate.  I'd like to see some more of the high profile vendors in the exhibit hall, but other than Marvel all of the big comic companies were there I think.  Part of me would love to see more hollywood studios in the exhibit hall, and likewise I'd love to see more high profile movie panels.  My son would really like more of the big toy companies showing off their stuff (Hasbro, Mattel, LEGO, etc).  The video game companies were fairly well represented, and I don't remember a ton of that last year.

That all being said, I kinda like that the focus is seemingly more on comics, and on lower key stuff with only a little bit of hollywood presence.  I spent more on comics this weekend at WonderCon than I have at probably the last 5+ years at Comic-Con combined.  I loved how laid back everything seemed compared to Comic-Con, and I really liked how every panel I attended (which admittedly weren't a lot) felt a bit more intimate, even in the arena.  I didn't have an interest in the vast majority of panels, and there were more last year that I was interested in.  That's no one's fault though: just an observation.
I didn't have any traffic issues other than what I assume is typical holiday weekend heavy travel.  I would LOVE to never had WonderCon on Easter weekend again if possible.

I've only been to two WonderCon, and I think this year was significantly better than last year overall.  While I wouldn't mind if WonderCon grew to be even bigger profile than it is, closer to SDCC than now, I'm OK with it staying low key.  My son and I had a blast and don't have any real complaints
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: oneroomdisco on March 31, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
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At the talkback panel, one of the people said that this year's WonderCon was 90% of the good stuff about SDCC without 90% of the bad stuff. IMHO those percentages are somewhat high. What do you guys think?

I think that's definitely too high.  While I enjoyed WonderCon and got to attend some awesome panels with really awesome seats (Pacific Rim/The Conjuring, Much A Do About Nothing, Cartoon Voices, Starship Smackdown), there where large swaths of time when it felt like there was simply nothing to do.  While some of this is a matter of taste (a lot of the major film/TV panels simply weren't for things I was interested in), I do think WonderCon could really use a few more big panels/exhibitors.  I don't want it to turn into SDCC, but I would like having more options in terms of film/television related panels and signings.

In terms of swag, the hall still felt really lacking--most of the stuff I got, I got outside the exhibit hall.  I did think the selection of vendors seemed better than last year, although due to We Love Fine only bringing one of the shirts I was interested in (and thus preventing me from reaching the $40 deal) and trying to not buy more books at the moment, I didn't purchase much.  All in all, I had fun and really hope that CCI comes back to Anaheim next year.  The location is convenient and even if there were boredom issues at times, it's a great show and an awesome way to start the con season :).
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 31, 2013, 08:35:49 PM
Yzrfan, I have definitely seen WonderCon change. When I first went in 2009, it seemed like a small, local Con with one big Hollywood type panel. Each year it seems to add one or two more big panels, and a bunch of smaller panels. The Exhibit floor seems to have stayed about the same, Marvel's absence this year excluded. The video game companies have been attending for a few years. I remember my daughter and I earning Nintendo toques for playing their demo games in 2010.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: kappolo on March 31, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
Here is my short review. Just got back home after dinner in OC.

The good:
- Alleys were pretty much walkable
- Arena seating was awesome, always found a seat
- I've met Kahnh, Yzrfan and Rando
- Got some nice swag (even though it was not much): Ducktales poster, some lanyards, Remember Me poster signed by few developers, Last of Us poster, Bravoman poster signed by few guys, Bravoman t-shirt, few comics, Nintendo bag + puzzle, few pins.
- Lots of costumes (the percentage is way higher than Comic Con)


The bad:
- Lots of people for some panels, didn't get in in some panels because I showed up late
- Not as much swag as expected
- Didn't meet other forum members :(
- No "official" forum meet up
- Marvel missing
- No interesting exclusives (this can also be a good point, for my wallet)

The ugly:
- Staff was rude, when I tried to take a picture of Stan Lee at a booth. (But overall the staff was good).
- It looks like it starting to get too much Comic Con like, I prefer if it stays smaller.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on March 31, 2013, 11:34:57 PM
I had lunch today with friend from San Francisco and she knows someone who helps run WonderCon and the plan seems to to be to have two WonderCons per year . One in SF and one in Anaheim , I guess we will see if that's what they are going to try and do.

I had a good time. I did not go to any panels this year and that was not by design, it just sorta worked out that way because not staying close by to the convention ( I was traveling from home everyday ), real life kept creeping in since I was coming from home every day. Also the panels were not that compelling enough for me to make a big effort to see them. I think to get the full con experience you need to stay at a hotel close by and have the convenience of being  able to drop off stuff in your room and take a small break without your normal life creeping in. I think the what they used to call the Dealer's room was about the same as SDCC.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: TheTFReview on April 01, 2013, 01:54:07 AM
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You need to remember that this is Anaheim first real major con. Yes they had Blizzard, Anime, and Wizard World two years.

Well, Anaheim hosts NAMM, which is the big music expo that pulls 100,000+ attendees every year and utilizes all the exhibit halls and arena and some venues at the Disneyland resort are also used. But in terms of Comic/Nerd based conventions, this is definitely the biggest one they've done and if they wanted to, they could continue to expand and it could become bigger than SDCC, could you imagine that?! haha.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: carmitch on April 01, 2013, 02:13:01 AM
I just went on Saturday.

Pros:

More food options with the food trucks.
More cosplayers.
More LGBT panels.  Last yr. only had 1.  Saturday, alone, had 2.
Liked how they placed the Disabled Services right in the lobby and not down below, like last year.
Great sound and disabled seating in the Arena.
And,...NO RAIN OR STUCK-UP SNOBS FROM DRILL TEAMS LOOKING DOWN AT US!

Cons:

They need to have a better idea of panels' popularity.  The Disney Pins panel had to turn away people.

Wasn't fond of only having the ANIMANIACS panel announced for a week, only to have it then cancelled.  Something tells me, by their lack of initial description, they didn't have confirmation of anything when they put it in the QUICK GUIDE.

They need to have a section outside set aside for the 'holy rollers'.  We don't need unwelcome 'guests' near us.  San Diego doesn't let them (or the worst, the hating Fred Phelp's church) onto conv. ctr. property and neither should Anaheim.

Bummed that they only had a separate disabled/ADA line for the Arena.  For Room 300AB, I couldn't find anyone to help me find a wheelchair spot for quite awhile.  Took 10 mins. for a volunteer to help me.  And, other rooms, it was each to their own.  At COMIC-CON, Hall H, Ballroom 20, and rooms with popular panels had ADA lines and sections set aside.

Also, I thought, with celebs, they were supposed to give you a free autograph only on/in the WONDERCON Program Guide and only charge if not signed in the Program Guide.  CC in '11 had that policy.  Why not with Wondercon?

And, finally, not enough swag!


See ya next year!
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 01, 2013, 06:16:36 AM
I just want to point out that WonderCon has NEVER been a swag con (at least, not from 2009 on, I can't say for before that). I agree, the swag is nothing compared to SDCC, but it never has been. Free comics and lanyards are the normal thing to expect, and that's what we got. In the past the video games booths have given things away for trying out the games and that happened this year as well.

So when people say not enough swag, if you're comparing with SDCC, you're going to be disappointed. If you are comparing with past WonderCons, it was about the same this year.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 01, 2013, 07:28:12 AM
I don't think anyone expects this to be SDCC nor does anyone want it to be.  I certainly hope it doesn't.  I liked being able to actually browse what the dealers had without feeling rushed because of all the people. 

But I'd like Wondercon to be Eli to SDCC's Peyton Manning, may not produce the gaudy results year after year, but still gives you a solid performance and may even put up something memorable. 

Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Chris on April 01, 2013, 08:15:45 AM
Any complaints that I have are so minor that they are not worth mentioning. 

I had a great time.  Got a nice pile of comics and some autographs.  And got to hang out with friends and exhibitors that I only get to see at shows.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: MacAttack on April 01, 2013, 09:34:35 AM
From the standpoint of a family who's only previous con experience has been attending SDCC over the past several years - WonderCon was exactly as expected and we were not disappointed.  Pretty much echoing all the good points posted already.  We were able to see some vendors, gaming tables, artists, and small press booths that we normally missed at SDCC.  A few of the little things that also made it nice: 

*Badge pick-up was a breeze; we were never asked for ID.
*The convention center lobby was easy to navigate; we encountered only helpful, not bossy, security.
*Personally, I appreciated the smaller crowds and more personal booths; the kids (ages 12-15) however, prefer the large displays/booths at SDCC - big surprise.
*The outdoor plaza area and fountain was a great central location to cosplay watch, eat, and rest.  The fountain group photo taking place that we observed was all of the batman villains. 
*Coming from the southern side streets (instead of the east, on Katella) helped avoid most of the traffic/parking mess.
*Shorter lines/less congestion/pushing (most of the time).

I kept my eyes peeled for other FOCCI lanyards, but alas, no sightings.  Was thinking about what I would call out if I saw a lanyard - Foxie (FOC-CI)?  It might work, or get me slapped.

Attending WonderCon really amped us up for SDCC, making the wait until July even tougher!

Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on April 01, 2013, 09:44:05 AM
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From the standpoint of a family who's only previous con experience has been attending SDCC over the past several years - WonderCon was exactly as expected and we were not disappointed.  Pretty much echoing all the good points posted already.  We were able to see some vendors, gaming tables, artists, and small press booths that we normally missed at SDCC.  A few of the little things that also made it nice: 

*Badge pick-up was a breeze; we were never asked for ID.
*The convention center lobby was easy to navigate; we encountered only helpful, not bossy, security.
*Personally, I appreciated the smaller crowds and more personal booths; the kids (ages 12-15) however, prefer the large displays/booths at SDCC - big surprise.
*The outdoor plaza area and fountain was a great central location to cosplay watch, eat, and rest.  The fountain group photo taking place that we observed was all of the batman villains. 
*Coming from the southern side streets (instead of the east, on Katella) helped avoid most of the traffic/parking mess.
*Shorter lines/less congestion/pushing (most of the time).

I kept my eyes peeled for other FOCCI lanyards, but alas, no sightings.  Was thinking about what I would call out if I saw a lanyard - Foxie (FOC-CI)?  It might work, or get me slapped.

Attending WonderCon really amped us up for SDCC, making the wait until July even tougher!

Random meetups just won't work in most cases, but I did meet Yzrfan :D

SDCC will be even worse for randomly meeting people.

For SDCC we will have to get more organized with specific places, dates and times.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: MegaDoug on April 01, 2013, 12:02:36 PM
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Random meetups just won't work in most cases, but I did meet Yzrfan :D

SDCC will be even worse for randomly meeting people.

For SDCC we will have to get more organized with specific places, dates and times.
Random meet-up TrueStorySwearToGod: when I went to see The Dark Knight Rises in IMAX at the theater in Irvine in July, I wore my 2012 Batman Comic-Con t-shirt and was stopped by a lady wearing the same shirt. Ran into her on Friday on the show floor, she was surprised and happy I remembered her. She said she got tickets to SDCC, so maybe I'll perchance another run-in with her.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 01, 2013, 12:31:22 PM
MacAttack, I feel the same way! This only whets my appetite for SDCC and now I'm more anxious than ever for July to arrive!
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: MacAttack on April 01, 2013, 02:07:36 PM
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This only whets my appetite for SDCC and now I'm more anxious than ever for July to arrive!

I must admit, this past weekend was a test to see if WonderCon would **hopefully** take the edge off and satisfy the family's craving of attending SDCC.  As obtaining badges to SDCC becomes more competitive each year, the harsh reality is that we will not always be fortunate in obtaining them.  But, my plan backfired.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Chris on April 01, 2013, 02:33:59 PM
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I must admit, this past weekend was a test to see if WonderCon would **hopefully** take the edge off and satisfy the family's craving of attending SDCC.  As obtaining badges to SDCC becomes more competitive each year, the harsh reality is that we will not always be fortunate in obtaining them.  But, my plan backfired.

Big and mini cons were my backup plan too, but then they became the part of my routine.  They are a lot of fun.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on April 01, 2013, 04:46:10 PM
There is still a lot of room for WC to grow as the floor spacing was a bit tight in some areas but super easy to navigate in other areas though it certainly felt like you could walk and see everything by mid-day. A few more big booths promoting events like signings or giveaways or just about anything will help draw crowds and give them something to do for longer stretches of time. There was certainly more places to sit down on the ground and not get yelled at though I'd assume as it gets more crowded that they'll start cracking down on that and generally speaking, there was a lot of space to just hang out outside, get some sun and people watch without getting run over by the shuttles like in SDCC.

Sucks some people had issues w/ rude security but it just wasn't something I experienced or noticed. Most were, if not helpful then very polite saying good morning/afternoon, etc and doing their best to keep things organized and orderly. There were enough warning signs on the way to the arena about being booted if you run so you didn't see that crazy mad dash that puts people in harm's way and they were pretty quick to descend on people using electronic devices during panels to make sure that they weren't recording. A bit amusing but also nice that there weren't smartphone lights distracting during a trailer, clip, etc.

There could definitely be more panels but I did thoroughly enjoy the panels that were held especially the Sunday ones w/ Much Ado followed by Nerdist and Arrow. The crowd was more quiet and "polite" while still enthusiastic which actually was actually a nice change of pace from the rabid screaming typical of most SDCC panels. As previously mentioned, I'll just chalk it up to being Easter Sunday. At the minimum though, I think WB will continue to have a big panel presence whether TV or movies and hopefully more studios follow suit after seeing the success of the show and the size of the crowds.

Without knowing how busy (or in this case how not busy) things were, it was difficult to schedule an official hang out for forum members. Hard to get folks to commit without knowing where they would be. I'm thinking Saturday's masquerade ball would make for a very fun meetup followed by dinner in the future and also if the start time remains about the same, maybe a coffee meetup in the food court most mornings since there isn't that massive must-be-in-line-early vibe to the panels or the exhibit floor.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Car_Low on April 01, 2013, 05:33:03 PM
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I'm thinking Saturday's masquerade ball would make for a very fun meetup followed by dinner in the future and also if the start time remains about the same, maybe a coffee meetup in the food court most mornings since there isn't that massive must-be-in-line-early vibe to the panels or the exhibit floor.
I think that dead period we had between the exhibit hall closing and the masquerade would be a perfect time for a quick meet up.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 01, 2013, 06:00:17 PM
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I think that dead period we had between the exhibit hall closing and the masquerade would be a perfect time for a quick meet up.

Not so dead! We were at the Under the Dome panel during that time.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Car_Low on April 01, 2013, 06:23:14 PM
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Not so dead! We were at the Under the Dome panel during that time.
You mean the show with the same plot as the simpsons movie? Haha. Me and khan was there to kill time so it pretty much was a dead period to us.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: perc2100 on April 01, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
One other thing I forgot that doesn't apply to all:

* there was no attempt/protocol/logistics in "connected" child badges with adult guardian badge.  At SD Comic-Con when I pick up by badge and 'register' my so (who's now 11), they put my contact info on a barcode on my son's child badge.  If we ever get separated someone could take my son to a CCI employee, they can can the badge, get my info and give me a call.  At WonderCon they seemingly just gave him a similar badge with "CHILD" written on it with not connected barcode.  I've never had any problems with my son and I separating, but if there is one thing I'd like to see changed it would be that.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on April 01, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
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One other thing I forgot that doesn't apply to all:

* there was no attempt/protocol/logistics in "connected" child badges with adult guardian badge.  At SD Comic-Con when I pick up by badge and 'register' my so (who's now 11), they put my contact info on a barcode on my son's child badge.  If we ever get separated someone could take my son to a CCI employee, they can can the badge, get my info and give me a call.  At WonderCon they seemingly just gave him a similar badge with "CHILD" written on it with not connected barcode.  I've never had any problems with my son and I separating, but if there is one thing I'd like to see changed it would be that.

Or even our names printed on the badge would be a nice start!
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: RSilvaConFan on April 01, 2013, 09:36:33 PM
This year's WonderCon was great!  Definitely larger than last year - great exhibit floor and the arena was a fantastic venue - the video projection sound systems were great. I especially want to thank the Dr Who/Wondercon people for accommodating the fans who couldn't get into 7pm Friday show by adding an additional showing that night.
 I hope that Wondercon stays in Anaheim - but that there can also be a show in SF as they need one also.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Applescruff on April 01, 2013, 10:05:35 PM
So I know I'm not a regular on this forum, but I do pop in once in a while.  So here's my two cents, for what it's worth. 

Pros
-Loved the Arena - every seat was comfortable and had a great view
-The panels were brilliant this year!  There was only one panel I wasn't able to get into and I knew the chances were unlikely to get in as I was leaving one panel and rushing to get into another back-to-back.  Also, CCI opened another room for the viewing of Doctor Who when they realized they were going to have to turn away masses of people.  Kudos for that!
-As someone mentioned earlier, loved the fountain area in front of the convention center so cosplayers and media/photographers could have their heyday.
-Again as someone else mentioned earlier, there were lots of great costumes this year.  I am not a cosplayer, but as a seamstress I can appreciate a good costume.  In the past, people have worn things bought at Party City and called it a costume.  But I really saw a step up from the past. Serious costuming - Niiiiiice!
Cons
-I was really disappointed with the selection of vendors.  I am guessing this was due to the convention being on Easter weekend.  There were numerous vendors who were there last year that did not attend this year and I was greatly disappointed.  And while the floor was larger and there were more vendors there seemed to be unnecessary repetition.  Do they really need two large t-shirt vendors and two large robe vendors?  I know they have this at ComicCon, but that's such a huge facility.
-The regulations at the private wristband signings were too restrictive. One had to win a ticket-pull to get the wristband, which set the numbers usually at 100 winners.  When you got to the signing you were not only restricted to what could be signed, but you couldn't even take a picture (for a memory of the event) from the line.  I can understand no photos once you get up to the signing table, but no photos from the line?  And they were very serious with repercussions; I saw security pull people's badges who had "broken the rules" and were escorted out of the convention.  The joy and synergy I've felt at other signings were completely absent from the WonderCon signings I experienced this weekend.
-The restrooms were way too small!  Every restroom I visited only had 4-5 stalls, with a line of ladies waiting.  Also, I don't mean to be gross, but the restrooms that were in the middle of the exhibit hall were completely misplaced.  Every time I was on my way to Dark Horse Comics and had to pass the men's restroom, oh my! A most unpleasant wall of putrid odor would hit me.  Honestly, I don't know how the staff at Dark Horse made it through the weekend!
So those are my thoughts - that's just how I experienced it.  WonderCon is no ComicCon.  But I do love it and hope they keep a version of it in Anaheim!
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 02, 2013, 05:24:56 AM
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So I know I'm not a regular on this forum, but I do pop in once in a while.  So here's my two cents, for what it's worth. 

Pros
-Loved the Arena - every seat was comfortable and had a great view
-The panels were brilliant this year!  There was only one panel I wasn't able to get into and I knew the chances were unlikely to get in as I was leaving one panel and rushing to get into another back-to-back.  Also, CCI opened another room for the viewing of Doctor Who when they realized they were going to have to turn away masses of people.  Kudos for that!
-As someone mentioned earlier, loved the fountain area in front of the convention center so cosplayers and media/photographers could have their heyday.
-Again as someone else mentioned earlier, there were lots of great costumes this year.  I am not a cosplayer, but as a seamstress I can appreciate a good costume.  In the past, people have worn things bought at Party City and called it a costume.  But I really saw a step up from the past. Serious costuming - Niiiiiice!
Cons
-I was really disappointed with the selection of vendors.  I am guessing this was due to the convention being on Easter weekend.  There were numerous vendors who were there last year that did not attend this year and I was greatly disappointed.  And while the floor was larger and there were more vendors there seemed to be unnecessary repetition.  Do they really need two large t-shirt vendors and two large robe vendors?  I know they have this at ComicCon, but that's such a huge facility.
-The regulations at the private wristband signings were too restrictive. One had to win a ticket-pull to get the wristband, which set the numbers usually at 100 winners.  When you got to the signing you were not only restricted to what could be signed, but you couldn't even take a picture (for a memory of the event) from the line.  I can understand no photos once you get up to the signing table, but no photos from the line?  And they were very serious with repercussions; I saw security pull people's badges who had "broken the rules" and were escorted out of the convention.  The joy and synergy I've felt at other signings were completely absent from the WonderCon signings I experienced this weekend.
-The restrooms were way too small!  Every restroom I visited only had 4-5 stalls, with a line of ladies waiting.  Also, I don't mean to be gross, but the restrooms that were in the middle of the exhibit hall were completely misplaced.  Every time I was on my way to Dark Horse Comics and had to pass the men's restroom, oh my! A most unpleasant wall of putrid odor would hit me.  Honestly, I don't know how the staff at Dark Horse made it through the weekend!
So those are my thoughts - that's just how I experienced it.  WonderCon is no ComicCon.  But I do love it and hope they keep a version of it in Anaheim!

What signing was really strict? I know I've seen tons of photos from the Arrow signing from people waiting in line and Stephen even taking photos with fans.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: alyssa on April 02, 2013, 05:27:08 AM
thx applescruff & rsilvaconfan,

i don't know how much control cci has over bathrooms.  I would suspect due to the physical restrictions abt the bathrooms, the only control cci could do would be to insist on more cleaning of the mens rooms, better signing (directions to other wm's rooms).

Regarding vendors, maybe not allowing second vendors and holding out for more varied stores?  the risk is having empty tables...

my hope is that there are two WonderCon's, north & south
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 02, 2013, 06:58:41 AM
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You mean the show with the same plot as the simpsons movie? Haha. Me and khan was there to kill time so it pretty much was a dead period to us.

LOL, yep. Although to be fair, Stephen King came up with the idea long before the Simpsons existed. ;)  But I really enjoyed the book, so I'm looking forward to see what they do with the TV series.

I did notice a couple of the women's bathrooms closest to the Exhibit hall had lines, but I never had to wait in the bathrooms on the second floor (close to the panel rooms). So if you were desperate, it was easy to hop the escalator and go up.

I didn 't smell anything from the men's bathroom, but then, I didn't get too close! ;)
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: MacAttack on April 02, 2013, 08:39:57 AM
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my hope is that there are two WonderCon's, north & south

According to Jim's insider, it looks like that is hopefully the plan.

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I had lunch today with friend from San Francisco and she knows someone who helps run WonderCon and the plan seems to to be to have two WonderCons per year . One in SF and one in Anaheim , I guess we will see if that's what they are going to try and do.

It'll be interesting to watch how WonderCon grows if they continue with it in Anaheim.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Applescruff on April 02, 2013, 09:06:48 AM
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What signing was really strict? I know I've seen tons of photos from the Arrow signing from people waiting in line and Stephen even taking photos with fans.
The two wristband signings I got into on Saturday were Guillermo Del Toro and Mortal Instruments; however, the instructions were the same for Evil Dead.  While we were in the holding area, they went so far as the instruct fans NOT to talk to Guillermo (you know how he likes to talk to his fans!) so they could get us through quicker. I'm grateful for the opportunity of the signing, but they made it as "fan un-friendly" as it gets. Sad :(
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: oneroomdisco on April 02, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
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The two wristband signings I got into on Saturday were Guillermo Del Toro and Mortal Instruments; however, the instructions were the same for Evil Dead.  While we were in the holding area, they went so far as the instruct fans NOT to talk to Guillermo (you know how he likes to talk to his fans!) so they could get us through quicker. I'm grateful for the opportunity of the signing, but they made it as "fan un-friendly" as it gets. Sad :(

I figured it was one of these.  My friend did them and saw a guy leaning against the wall with a closed fist have security come over, thinking that he had a phone in his hand.  I wonder if these rules were the result of the studios or CCI.  I've done numerous signings at anime cons with similar rules (although I've yet to encounter not being allowed pictures of the lines), but those are usually the result of the Japanese guest's management.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 02, 2013, 09:31:21 AM
Stylin and superhero stuff are a con staple (the two big t shirt vendors). It's both difficult and expensive  to be a vendor at a CCI event.  If we limit the number of t-shirt vendors, should we limit who can sell books. Each vendor had something different.  The wristband lotto was done last year at SDCC. If you think about it, at lottery is pretty much the fairest way.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: tragedys on April 02, 2013, 09:38:54 AM
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I figured it was one of these.  My friend did them and saw a guy leaning against the wall with a closed fist have security come over, thinking that he had a phone in his hand.  I wonder if these rules were the result of the studios or CCI.  I've done numerous signings at anime cons with similar rules (although I've yet to encounter not being allowed pictures of the lines), but those are usually the result of the Japanese guest's management.

During this years Portland Comic con only some of the guests had the 'no pictures' signs up (Bruce Campbell, Morena Bacarrin, Brent Spiner) but others allowed pics to be snapped away (Henry Winkler, Norman Reedus, Michael Rooker).  The security wasn't as ferocious (as it's a small con) but still tried to discourage it as much as possible.  I think it's up to the individual star as to what their preferences are and then up to the security team to determine to what degree they will enforce it.
I'm sure there is a good combination of 'I don't want to be blinded by flashes all day' with 'I need to sell my photo op tickets'.  In the end, they are human and have their reasons.  It just makes you feel more ninja like if you are able to sneak in that photo while in line. *smoke bomb*
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on April 02, 2013, 10:26:58 AM
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I wonder if these rules were the result of the studios or CCI.

Could be combination - studio says one thing, CCI says something and security is looking to impress both by strictly enforcing. Usually what happens when you have multiple directives.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 02, 2013, 10:43:58 AM
I can understand why they wouldn't want random people who weren't in line for something taking photos, it can cause a huge traffic jam but if I'm in line and want to snap something really quick, it shouldn't be an issue. IMO anyway.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 02, 2013, 10:58:49 AM
Stan upped his price from 50 to 55 for his signings.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Sprzout on April 02, 2013, 11:07:09 AM
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Or even our names printed on the badge would be a nice start!

That was something that Rob Paulsen said was driving him nuts - he wanted to sign stuff for people and personalize it, but he was constantly having to ask everyone's names rather than read their badges!

On the flip side, not having to print a name on a badge DID make the line move pretty quickly ("What's your name? Ok, good, it matches your ticket. Here's a badge, enjoy Wondercon!")...
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: oneroomdisco on April 02, 2013, 11:30:28 AM
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I can understand why they wouldn't want random people who weren't in line for something taking photos, it can cause a huge traffic jam but if I'm in line and want to snap something really quick, it shouldn't be an issue. IMO anyway.

I totally agree, although I'm kind of used to the various restrictions at this point.  Mostly it's just less than fun when they're actually enforced--I've gotten away with so much at anime cons (getting a picture with a guest mere minutes after they were all NO PHOTOS, getting a sketch during a signing after other people starting asking despite them not actually being allowed, etc) :P.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: funkybutton on April 02, 2013, 11:45:40 AM
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Stan upped his price from 50 to 55 for his signings.

Lou Ferrigno upped his price from 20 to 40!!
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 02, 2013, 11:46:45 AM
Hey he made it to the big leagues now, he was on celebrity apprentice
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Car_Low on April 02, 2013, 11:51:42 AM
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Could be combination - studio says one thing, CCI says something and security is looking to impress both by strictly enforcing. Usually what happens when you have multiple directives.
or even the fire marshall as having a huge gaggle of stagnant people is pretty dangerous especially since the DC booth was close to the exit.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on April 02, 2013, 02:18:44 PM
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I can understand why they wouldn't want random people who weren't in line for something taking photos, it can cause a huge traffic jam but if I'm in line and want to snap something really quick, it shouldn't be an issue. IMO anyway.

I remember seeing different prices for photo ops with very popular stars. That's why you see signs saying no photos sometimes.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 02, 2013, 04:23:15 PM
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I remember seeing different prices for photo ops with very popular stars. That's why you see signs saying no photos sometimes.

Well yes, I understand that as well.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 02, 2013, 04:38:21 PM
I thought the difference between a random photo and a 'photo op' was that with a photo op *you* are in the picture too? Or do I have that wrong?
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 02, 2013, 04:44:19 PM
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I thought the difference between a random photo and a 'photo op' was that with a photo op *you* are in the picture too? Or do I have that wrong?

No, that's correct. A photo op is you with the star.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on April 02, 2013, 04:47:33 PM
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No, that's correct. A photo op is you with the star.

Now I remember , I usually don't do those unless it's a freebie :D
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 02, 2013, 04:49:37 PM
Some celebs are always a little crazy with the whole photo thing, Bruce Campbell is. At Wizard World Philly there were people who would stand in your way if you tried go get a photo while he was signing. At the Baltimore Con, Stan Lee was "the man behind the curtain" and you couldn't even see him unless you had bought the op.

Of course at the panels you can take all the photos you want.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: carmitch on April 02, 2013, 10:17:38 PM
I was in the GDT signing.  From what they told us, they had set it to end at 2:30pm.  So, to get everyone through, they limited the chit-chat.  I understood why they do it, so everyone could get through and see GDT.  People were already getting in line for the EVIL DEAD signing while the screening was going on in the Arena.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Applescruff on April 02, 2013, 11:49:26 PM
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I can understand why they wouldn't want random people who weren't in line for something taking photos, it can cause a huge traffic jam but if I'm in line and want to snap something really quick, it shouldn't be an issue. IMO anyway.

I understand what you're saying.  At Comic-con when celebrities are signing at the WB, or FOX, or CBS booths huge traffic jams of lookie-loos & photographers create havoc for those who are just trying to walk by.  However, Saturday's wristband signings were held in a private room on the second floor. Actually, there were two rooms:  one, which was used as a "holding area", and another where the talent was actually signing.  Much of the time the door to this signing room was closed so you couldn't even look inside to see who was in there, much less take a photo.  They allowed maybe 30 (?) people in the signing room at a time.  I totally appreciate how difficult the flash must be on one's eyes.  But at Comic-con, again, most of the signings are either in the above named booths or in the Sails Pavilion, where again, photography is allowed from the line.  Interestingly enough, GDT signed last year at Comic-con in the Sails Pavilion (with a ticket-pull for the wristband) and not only could you take photos from the line you could do a "lean in" at the signing table.  I am aware, however, that there are private room signings at Comic-con; I've just never been in one so I don't know how they work.  Enlightenment, anyone? (Just curious at this point)
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Bert Su on April 04, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
I ran into Icedog at Wondercon twice. The first time, I thought he was someone else because I have a friend who looks a lot like him. The second time, he was carrying a big box. I bet it was filled with the exclusive Green Lantern figures.

Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: carmitch on April 05, 2013, 02:21:13 AM
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I understand what you're saying.  At Comic-con when celebrities are signing at the WB, or FOX, or CBS booths huge traffic jams of lookie-loos & photographers create havoc for those who are just trying to walk by.  However, Saturday's wristband signings were held in a private room on the second floor. Actually, there were two rooms:  one, which was used as a "holding area", and another where the talent was actually signing.  Much of the time the door to this signing room was closed so you couldn't even look inside to see who was in there, much less take a photo.  They allowed maybe 30 (?) people in the signing room at a time.  I totally appreciate how difficult the flash must be on one's eyes.  But at Comic-con, again, most of the signings are either in the above named booths or in the Sails Pavilion, where again, photography is allowed from the line.  Interestingly enough, GDT signed last year at Comic-con in the Sails Pavilion (with a ticket-pull for the wristband) and not only could you take photos from the line you could do a "lean in" at the signing table.  I am aware, however, that there are private room signings at Comic-con; I've just never been in one so I don't know how they work.  Enlightenment, anyone? (Just curious at this point)

You pretty much described what a 'private room signing' is.  Those of us who got a wristband were instructed to meet at a room at a certain time.  They had us in a 'snake-like' configuration.  The end of that long line ended back at the entrance of the room.   They, then, would let a certain number of people exit that room and lead us to a room next door, whose door was shut the entire time, only opened to let us enter or exit.  The path from one room to another was lined with security.

In the 2nd room was GDT.  We had to wait in a shorter, snake-like line there.  When we got to be the next in line to see him, we had to wait a few feet away while GDT was signing the prior person's poster.  Then, security allowed us to approach his table only after he was done with the prior person.

Security was in uniforms along this route, but he had big and buff bodyguards in suit and ties standing behind him at his table.  You knew not to do anything other than what you were told to do by their presence.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: karatekid on April 05, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
I only went on Friday but had a nice time and got pretty much all my wants so I was happy. My only cons were it was way way more crowded than past Wondercons, even last year was way less. This had many far reaching effects ... sketch sessions turning into autographs only, capped lines for comic books, huge lines for t-shirts, etc. A scary trend!

Oh and I was still a little disappointed that some of the mainstays in the industry ... Marvel, Gentle Giant, Mattel, and more hollywood was not present. Especially the latter 3 since they are based in SoCal!
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on April 05, 2013, 11:12:33 AM
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I only went on Friday but had a nice time and got pretty much all my wants so I was happy. My only cons were it was way way more crowded than past Wondercons, even last year was way less. This had many far reaching effects ... sketch sessions turning into autographs only, capped lines for comic books, huge lines for t-shirts, etc. A scary trend!

Oh and I was still a little disappointed that some of the mainstays in the industry ... Marvel, Gentle Giant, Mattel, and more hollywood was not present. Especially the latter 3 since they are based in SoCal!

Yeah WonderCon is becoming SDCC for better or worse. Part of the SDCC overflow effect :D
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 05, 2013, 11:46:10 AM
We all knew this was going to happen with SDCC selling out in minutes the past two years.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 05, 2013, 01:02:51 PM
I agree with you guys. Of the people I spoke with at WonderCon (in lines, in panel rooms, on the Exhibit floor) there were 2 camps: people who love SDCC and were using WonderCon as a 'fix', and people who have become fed up with SDCC (too many people, too difficult to get tickets, etc.) and are coming to WonderCon to experience what SDCC used to be.

SDCC is clearly having an impact on WonderCon.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Chris on April 05, 2013, 01:21:58 PM
I often joke about Wondercon being a nicotine patch to get through Comic Con withdrawals, but in all honestly, I'm just grateful to have another great show to attend.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on April 05, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
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I agree with you guys. Of the people I spoke with at WonderCon (in lines, in panel rooms, on the Exhibit floor) there were 2 camps: people who love SDCC and were using WonderCon as a 'fix', and people who have become fed up with SDCC (too many people, too difficult to get tickets, etc.) and are coming to WonderCon to experience what SDCC used to be.

SDCC is clearly having an impact on WonderCon.

I'm split on the issue of going to SDCC

Pros

I love TV and Movies , so the panels are one of the main reasons why I still go. Before it was movie posters, movie sound tracks, books and animation cels that I would buy. I really was not into comics, but my friends and relatives were.

Meeting people that I know online (Facebook, Forums like this, Twitter, Podcasts ...)

Browsing the dealer tables for stuff

Cons

The amount of time wasted lining up for things.

The long lines for panels, parking myself all day to see one panel that I really wanted to see.

Just getting passes.

Hotel Hell

Fewer friends are going because of the last two issues.

I may not go in 2014 and the Zombies attack anyway

http://www.amazon.com/San-Diego-2014-California-ebook/dp/B0089EHIA4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1365193475&sr=8-4&keywords=mira+grant
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 05, 2013, 01:36:12 PM
We all need something so we don't get con-sick,  The sweets and shakes suck, need a little something something to make us right during the SDCC break.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 05, 2013, 02:09:27 PM
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I may not go in 2014 and the Zombies attack anyway

http://www.amazon.com/San-Diego-2014-California-ebook/dp/B0089EHIA4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1365193475&sr=8-4&keywords=mira+grant

LOL, my DD loves the Newsflesh series (I enjoyed it too) but she's just young enough to be concerned about SDCC 2014. I told her that if 'terrorists' break into a lab to release a universal cure to the common cold a few months before the Con, then we'll stay home. ;)
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Jim Watari on April 05, 2013, 03:01:56 PM
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LOL, my DD loves the Newsflesh series (I enjoyed it too) but she's just young enough to be concerned about SDCC 2014. I told her that if 'terrorists' break into a lab to release a universal cure to the common cold a few months before the Con, then we'll stay home. ;)

I meet the Tutts at the California Browncoats booth and we talked about the NewsFlesh series. Shawn is good friends with Seanan McGuire AKA Mira Grant. I noticed they had a ribbon on their badges that said "I'm still alive" and I thought was pretty funny considering what happens in the story.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 05, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
I agree! We'll have to go by so my daughter can appreciate that this year. ;)
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: perc2100 on April 06, 2013, 08:36:11 PM
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I often joke about Wondercon being a nicotine patch to get through Comic Con withdrawals, but in all honestly, I'm just grateful to have another great show to attend.
Ha, that's a funny way to put it. In joke that WonderCon Anaheim = my 'safety con:' if I can't get into SDCC, at least I can fall back on WonderCon  :P

In all honesty/fairness, it's come into its own and WonderCon has become its own thing. In had a blast this year and hope it returns to Anaheim in 2014 (disclaimer: I REALLY hope there is a WonderCon SF as well as Anaheim)
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: perc2100 on April 06, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
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Oh and I was still a little disappointed that some of the mainstays in the industry ... Marvel, Gentle Giant, Mattel, and more hollywood was not present. Especially the latter 3 since they are based in SoCal!

FWIW, of that list only Marvel was at WonderCon in 2012, if in remember correctly: I'd say Marvel is the only real 'mainstay' of WonderCon from that list
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 06, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
Gentle Giant was at WC in 2012, because they had the exclusive 3D Yoda for the release of Episode I in 3D.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: tehlilone on April 07, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
I only went Saturday this year but it was pretty enjoyable. We took it easy and I actually spent more than I thought I would -_-;

Improvements from last year: Food!! A lot more options for your food fix including those provided inside the convention center.

Pros: I enjoyed walking around artist alley this year. It was nice talking to the artists about their creations. Registration was awesome. They actually started the lines earlier so it didn't feel like we were waiting as long. Saw Khanh (very briefly)!

Cons: Lines are getting longer. Not to SDCC proportions yet but significantly longer than last year. Also, there wasn't a lot of swag on the floor. Last year wasn't that great either but it felt particularly dry and I wasn't that excited about the things I did manage to get. Maybe I wasn't wandering around at the right time or I've been spoiled by years of attending SDCC. There were also a few demo places I wanted to check out but didn't know how long the wait was. There were less panels that interested me this year. Last year I went to a few but I didn't go to any this time around. Didn't see anyone else from the forum.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 07, 2013, 08:53:37 PM
We were there, but waiting in lines.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 08, 2013, 07:45:18 AM
A big difference between WonderCon and SDCC. At WonderCon, these guys are standing around bored, with nothing to do!

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Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Bernie Lean on April 09, 2013, 10:19:42 AM
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Gentle Giant was at WC in 2012, because they had the exclusive 3D Yoda for the release of Episode I in 3D.

A big company like Gentle Giant wouldn't vendor at a big event such as Wondercon just because of 1 Star Wars event since they also make collectibles for Marvel, Harry Potter, Sucker Punch, Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, etc. I've talked to reps at Gentle Giants and overall the buzz they got at Anaheim Wondercon wasn't what they anticipated so that's why they declined to vendor this year.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 09, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Did you see the there booth in 2012? They only had one item for sale that year.... Yoda.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Bernie Lean on April 09, 2013, 10:33:45 AM
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So I know I'm not a regular on this forum, but I do pop in once in a while.  So here's my two cents, for what it's worth. 

Pros
-Loved the Arena - every seat was comfortable and had a great view
-The panels were brilliant this year!  There was only one panel I wasn't able to get into and I knew the chances were unlikely to get in as I was leaving one panel and rushing to get into another back-to-back.  Also, CCI opened another room for the viewing of Doctor Who when they realized they were going to have to turn away masses of people.  Kudos for that!
-As someone mentioned earlier, loved the fountain area in front of the convention center so cosplayers and media/photographers could have their heyday.
-Again as someone else mentioned earlier, there were lots of great costumes this year.  I am not a cosplayer, but as a seamstress I can appreciate a good costume.  In the past, people have worn things bought at Party City and called it a costume.  But I really saw a step up from the past. Serious costuming - Niiiiiice!
Cons
-I was really disappointed with the selection of vendors.  I am guessing this was due to the convention being on Easter weekend.  There were numerous vendors who were there last year that did not attend this year and I was greatly disappointed.  And while the floor was larger and there were more vendors there seemed to be unnecessary repetition.  Do they really need two large t-shirt vendors and two large robe vendors?  I know they have this at ComicCon, but that's such a huge facility.
-The regulations at the private wristband signings were too restrictive. One had to win a ticket-pull to get the wristband, which set the numbers usually at 100 winners.  When you got to the signing you were not only restricted to what could be signed, but you couldn't even take a picture (for a memory of the event) from the line.  I can understand no photos once you get up to the signing table, but no photos from the line?  And they were very serious with repercussions; I saw security pull people's badges who had "broken the rules" and were escorted out of the convention.  The joy and synergy I've felt at other signings were completely absent from the WonderCon signings I experienced this weekend.
-The restrooms were way too small!  Every restroom I visited only had 4-5 stalls, with a line of ladies waiting.  Also, I don't mean to be gross, but the restrooms that were in the middle of the exhibit hall were completely misplaced.  Every time I was on my way to Dark Horse Comics and had to pass the men's restroom, oh my! A most unpleasant wall of putrid odor would hit me.  Honestly, I don't know how the staff at Dark Horse made it through the weekend!
So those are my thoughts - that's just how I experienced it.  WonderCon is no ComicCon.  But I do love it and hope they keep a version of it in Anaheim!

It seems like you've never attended a ticketed signing through Wondercon. Unlike the Arrow signing which is handled by DC, the ticketed signings for Hollywood casts have a no photography and no signing of personal item policy. If you break these rules you will have your badge taken away from you. This is stated multiple times so those that try to be slick and slip a photo in deserve to have their badge taken away from them. CCI doesn't bluff on this and the ones that find out the hard will remember for the next time.

You may think it's not "fan friendly" but those are the rules so either follow the rules or accept the consequences. The Arrow signing was done in an open space at the DC booth on the exhibit floor so that's why there's plenty of photos of Steven and the cast online.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 09, 2013, 10:41:52 AM
Dude why don't you chill out. They were simply stating what they had observed. Maybe they had never attended a signing before WC,  but who cares. We are all here to talk about things. That's the reason for this forum.  There are several old pros and many new people here.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Bernie Lean on April 09, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
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Dude why don't you chill out. They were simply stating what they had observed. Maybe they had never attended a signing before WC,  but who cares. We are all here to talk about things. That's the reason for this forum.  There are several old pros and many new people here.

Just stating from previous experiences at Wondercon. I meant to malice or ill will at all from my comment and observation. It's a wonder why people have such thin skin when the rules put out by CCI don't go in their favor.
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 09, 2013, 11:18:46 AM
Why don't you review your last post. Don't know if you meant to say you meant to malice or if it should be you meant no malice. everyone here has one thing in common, we are all very passionate about our cons.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: alyssa on April 10, 2013, 06:12:54 AM
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<snip> Unlike the Arrow signing which is handled by DC, the ticketed signings for Hollywood casts have a no photography and no signing of personal item policy. If you break these rules you will have your badge taken away from you. This is stated multiple times so those that try to be slick and slip a photo in deserve to have their badge taken away from them.

sounds like you've been to a lot of Hollywood cast signings...i've always been curious about such events.  How do they work?  I always go for the comic/author signings so am clueless.  I happened to wander by the Fox booth last year when a signing was occurring it was a mad house with no seeming organization. 


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CCI doesn't bluff on this and the ones that find out the hard will remember for the next time.

I was under the impression that it was the booths/management policy's not CCI's...  I find it hard to believe that CCI restricts who a fan can take a picture of. Of course CCI deals with fire lane/line issues...but i find it hard to believe cci would in force a rule on one booth but not another.

Title: Re: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: tehlilone on April 10, 2013, 08:04:19 AM
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I was under the impression that it was the booths/management policy's not CCI's...  I find it hard to believe that CCI restricts who a fan can take a picture of. Of course CCI deals with fire lane/line issues...but i find it hard to believe cci would in force a rule on one booth but not another.

I've never seen anyone get their badge taken away. I've just seen people get reminded (yelled at) by booth security.

Some of the larger booths with cast signings will be really strict with signings. They've gotten more strict in recent years. Sometimes you'll get into a more relaxed signing though. I'm usually very considerate and hurry thru without really talking to the celebrities. But, I decided to be bad last year for the first time and had SOO much fun talking/taking pics with them. It helps when you're one of the first ones going through the line since the posters get stuck a lot more since there's no flow yet.

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Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Applescruff on April 10, 2013, 10:54:13 PM
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It seems like you've never attended a ticketed signing through Wondercon. Unlike the Arrow signing which is handled by DC, the ticketed signings for Hollywood casts have a no photography and no signing of personal item policy. If you break these rules you will have your badge taken away from you. This is stated multiple times so those that try to be slick and slip a photo in deserve to have their badge taken away from them. CCI doesn't bluff on this and the ones that find out the hard will remember for the next time.

You may think it's not "fan friendly" but those are the rules so either follow the rules or accept the consequences. The Arrow signing was done in an open space at the DC booth on the exhibit floor so that's why there's plenty of photos of Steven and the cast online.

Yes, you are correct, I have limited experience regarding ticketed signings through WonderCon.  As a So Cal resident this year was my second WonderCon.  Last year I participated in two ticketed signings; one was on the floor for Fringe; the other was a private signing for Once Upon A Time. However, I certainly do not recall that (Once Upon A Time) private signing to be nearly as restrictive as the ones I experienced this year. My only other experience with CCI is Comic-Con and certainly the vast majority of their "Hollywood" cast signings are NOT private signings, occurring either in booths on the floor or in the Sails Pavilion.  (I am aware that they do have private signings at Comic-Con; I've just never attended any of them).  I find it an interesting paradox that CCI would hand their "Hollywood" cast signings at two of their conventions in polar opposite fashion. Perhaps it might have been advantageous to have been told during the actual ticket pull at WonderCon that the signing was going to be a private signing.  My guess is that I was not the only fan who assumed the signing was going to be a "Comic-Con type" of open signing.  Be aware, I am not disputing CCI's ability to have rules for their private signings or that they should or should not enforce them.  My only point is that, in my opinion, their rules for the private signings are excessively restrictive and unnecessary.  Also, FYI, I am no newbie to the convention and/or autographing scene.  2013 will be my 16th Comic-Con and I've been attending conventions, movie premieres,  book signings, and private autograph parties for approximately 35 years so I do believe I have enough experience to be able to determine fan friendly from fan unfriendly.  (In all my years of experience the only other signing that I have attended that was this restrictive was for Sir Paul McCartney). With all that said, I still had a fantastic time at WonderCon.  However, I will also stand by my statement that WonderCon is no Comic-Con.  Live and learn. 
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: alyssa on April 11, 2013, 03:52:27 AM
i really think it's a mistake to assume CCI is handling those signings.

It is my understanding that signings at booths are handled by the booth.  CCI can restrict things like where the line forms & the like but has no say in how the details are handled. 
Title: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Yzrfan on April 11, 2013, 05:56:35 AM
I just think one person was trying to stir things up here.
Title: Re: WonderCon 2013 Reviews
Post by: Khaaaaaaanh!!! on April 11, 2013, 07:17:16 AM
Moral of the story is to pay attention to the rules and don't assume anything.

...and if you're gonna get your badge revoked, make sure it was at least worth it. ;)