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Comic-Con International => SDCC Housing, Parking, and Transportation => Topic started by: Cajnca559 on April 13, 2016, 03:10:32 PM
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I have a random idea. There is a new hotel opening up called the pendry around November this year. I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Does anyone think there is a possibility to this idea. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's. Just an idea but also a possibility before the pendry also goes the way of the hotel lottery. Also let me be the first to say I would definitely put in for this option and pay in advance.
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I have a random idea. There is a new hotel opening up called the pendry around November this year. I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Does anyone think there is a possibility to this idea. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's. Just an idea but also a possibility before the pendry also goes the way of the hotel lottery. Also let me be the first to say I would definitely put in for this option and pay in advance.
Interesting Idea!
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I have a random idea. There is a new hotel opening up called the pendry around November this year. I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Does anyone think there is a possibility to this idea. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's. Just an idea but also a possibility before the pendry also goes the way of the hotel lottery. Also let me be the first to say I would definitely put in for this option and pay in advance.
Let's do it! :)
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Speaking of the Pendry, do we know if there are going to be any new hotels for 2017 SDCC? Besides that, I know of the Hilton Garden Inn/Homewood suites Bayside, which wasn't part of the hotel block this year but is opening July 1st 2016 in time for SDCC (but the rates are already jacked up)
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I have a random idea. There is a new hotel opening up called the pendry around November this year. I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Does anyone think there is a possibility to this idea. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's. Just an idea but also a possibility before the pendry also goes the way of the hotel lottery. Also let me be the first to say I would definitely put in for this option and pay in advance.
I love this idea!
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I have a random idea. There is a new hotel opening up called the pendry around November this year. I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Does anyone think there is a possibility to this idea. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's. Just an idea but also a possibility before the pendry also goes the way of the hotel lottery. Also let me be the first to say I would definitely put in for this option and pay in advance.
I'm in
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I have a random idea. There is a new hotel opening up called the pendry around November this year. I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Does anyone think there is a possibility to this idea. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's. Just an idea but also a possibility before the pendry also goes the way of the hotel lottery. Also let me be the first to say I would definitely put in for this option and pay in advance.
So I just emailed the Director of Sales to get this going. I will keep everyone updated and will start a new thread on it once I get a response :)
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sounds like a great idea, count me in as well. :D
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So I just emailed the Director of Sales to get this going. I will keep everyone updated and will start a new thread on it once I get a response :)
Now *that's* an awesome idea! Count me in too!
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Love, love, love this idea! Let's do it!
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I would also be interested!
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Count me in as well on this. FOCC takes over Pendry.
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I'd do it. I would imagine they would want a minimum though.
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I have no doubt that we could easily meet that minimum w/the folks here. That'd be awesome :)
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Count me in
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Haha yes. I'm totally in, too. Excellent idea
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Hey mods maybe this Pendry stuff should be in a new thread...
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Count me in for the Pendry. I would book Tues. through Mon.
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Instant support. count me IN!
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I wonder if we get enough members together, what if we buy a block of hotel rooms for next year and every year after. Not only that it would be pretty cool to all stay in the same hotel and have some great forum get together's.
I was just talking about this to someone the other day. Our own little Nerd Frat/Sorority House on the Comic-Con Campus. We could have shirts that say FoCC U....
Oh, wait...
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So I just emailed the Director of Sales to get this going. I will keep everyone updated and will start a new thread on it once I get a response :)
Way to get the ball rolling!!!!
Count me in, plus my daughter.
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I was just talking about this to someone the other day. Our own little Nerd Frat/Sorority House on the Comic-Con Campus. We could have shirts that say FoCC U....
Oh, wait...
Love it.
Count me in as well.
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I was just talking about this to someone the other day. Our own little Nerd Frat/Sorority House on the Comic-Con Campus. We could have shirts that say FoCC U....
Oh, wait...
This is a great idea and that shirt... haha
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Wow that jumped off pretty quickly lol!
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Great idea!
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Speaking of the Pendry, do we know if there are going to be any new hotels for 2017 SDCC? Besides that, I know of the Hilton Garden Inn/Homewood suites Bayside, which wasn't part of the hotel block this year but is opening July 1st 2016 in time for SDCC (but the rates are already jacked up)
I posted this on the hotel thread, but it got buried (imagine that! LOL!)
I found this gem when searching for hotel stats:
December (2015) New Hotel Supply Update:
http://www.sandiego.org/~/media/71ae8a875993446aa05dc47cfdcd0bc5/decembernewhotel%20supplyupdate.pdf
A list of the possible new hotels for the area. 92101 is the zipcode for downtown, I think (correct me if I am wrong). The Pendry is listed as coming in Nov 2016 as noted in this thread.
It will be interesting how the Pendry sales team responds.
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Yes yes a thousand times yes
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This is a great idea!
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I would totally be down with that. In!
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It could lead to great publicity for the hotel, too.
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From a news story on the Pendry San Diego. "...There will be 317 guest rooms, including 36 suites; a rooftop pool; two restaurants; a lounge and beer hall; a spa and fitness facility; as well as more than 22,000 sq. ft. of meeting space."
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This would be amazing. I'm definitely in!
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Count me in. FoCC HQ.
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I would be interested as well.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Man I'm dead serious. If we can get this popping I'm all the way on board for it! Count me in 4 nights minimum
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Oh man I can't wait to see what they say. I'd bet we could fill that hotel if they'd let us.
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I would totally be up for this!
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I'd be down, though I represent 8 people, so I guess I count for that.
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I took a look at their meetings information. We would essentially be setting up an event/ conference of our own. This is just what they are soliciting. If no one else has booked that time period already, they should be eating this up.
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Oh man I can't wait to see what they say. I'd bet we could fill that hotel if they'd let us.
And I am sure we would mostly all be willing to pay full price--or at least negotiate something higher than CCI. A place to sleep that's nice and close to the con? Yay!
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I'm going to have to run this by my roommates, but I am definitely interested in this as well! Though the hotel lottery worked out for us this year, it was still very stressful and unpredictable. This seems like a great alternative!
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Yes!!! Count me in, of course!!
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count me in too :)
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This is a great idea! Yes, I'm in for 1 room/4 people please!!
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And never have to deal with the the hotel Lotto again. Sounds like an amazing idea to me!
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Ok so I received a response and here it is:
"Thank you for your inquiry for rooms around Comic Con in San Diego. Pendry San Diego will not be opening until Fall 2016, and thus would not be available for the 2016 event. For 2017 we will review options later this year and be in a better position to discuss Comic Con accommodations for 2017. Thank you again for the interest and if you have additional questions let me know."
So I reply asking when will be the best time to follow up with this, but at least this tells me that CCI didn't get their claws into this hotel yet. If CCI does have an interest in The Pendry maybe we can at least have a portion of the rooms blocked. I will definitely follow up with Bob throughout the year and hopefully we can get this going. I pushed it as an Annual FoCC Meetup Event, and that they'll definitely get full bookings on the block.
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Nice. It seems to be open right now. Great. The Pendry has a lot meeting space that it also wants to fill. We might do this as a conference - something like - 'Friends of Comic Con Annual Meeting'. A conference supported by lots of rooms booked for this annual meeting. Would FoCC want to create programming for at least some these spaces? That might sweeten the pot.
Ideas:
Hospitality Room
Meet ups
Party
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This is an awesome idea and I would love to add my name to the list of people who would back this up.
If we used the premise of a conference I think that would give us a lot more leverage. I also think this would be great for the FoCC community as a whole to have an annual meetup and get to better know one another.
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Do you have a sign up list yet of people who are interested?
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Just brainstorming:
1. This might help fill a niche at SDCC- huge friendly spaces to sit down, make new friends, chat with other FoCC folk, show your stash
2. We may want to do a meet up to discuss the meet up at SDCC this year
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Just brainstorming:
1. This might help fill a niche at SDCC- huge friendly spaces to sit down, make new friends, chat with other FoCC folk, show your stash
2. We may want to do a meet up to discuss the meet up at SDCC this year
Please keep me informed very interested in this.
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I don't want to be a wet blanket here, but your should be aware that everything associated with FoCC has to be run by Alyssa. It is her site and her 'name'. That being said, I suspect she'd be fine with booking a block of rooms, but labeling it a 'FoCC convention' is another thing entirely.
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It'd be really dope if we could do this annually! Talked it over with my other half and she loves the idea too. We should try to compile a list of interested parties and see what kind of numbers we could bring to the table.
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[member=1]alyssa[/member] What say you?
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I don't want to be a wet blanket here, but your should be aware that everything associated with FoCC has to be run by Alyssa. It is her site and her 'name'. That being said, I suspect she'd be fine with booking a block of rooms, but labeling it a 'FoCC convention' is another thing entirely.
Was just about to break in and say the same. I am all for people getting together to block out rooms, but when you label it FoCC, you will need to have Alyssa's approval.
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I don't want to be a wet blanket here, but your should be aware that everything associated with FoCC has to be run by Alyssa. It is her site and her 'name'. That being said, I suspect she'd be fine with booking a block of rooms, but labeling it a 'FoCC convention' is another thing entirely.
Noted.
But please know that I just used 'FoCC' as part of my inquiry. Nothing was going to be made official without notifying mods for permission, but good to know to contact Alyssa directly so I don't have to ask around for the decision maker.
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Do you have a sign up list yet of people who are interested?
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No list yet. I don't want to jump the gun on or jinx anything, but I will refer back to this thread if necessary in the future.
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I don't want to be a wet blanket here, but your should be aware that everything associated with FoCC has to be run by Alyssa. It is her site and her 'name'. That being said, I suspect she'd be fine with booking a block of rooms, but labeling it a 'FoCC convention' is another thing entirely.
Absolutely! Not a wet blanket at all. Proper protocol. Thanks..
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[member=1]alyssa[/member] What say you?
i need to read this thread from the beginning. I do really like the idea of a block of hotel rooms for forum members tho- i'd love to take over a floor- LOL ;) [member=4589]dollar2k3[/member]
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I'm definitely intrigued...would love to not have the stress of the hotel lottery every year.
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i'm not sure we have the resources to pull this off. I mean, i've booked the hotel for family reunions, like 20 rooms etc, get a group code & book online. I'm not sure if they'd let us manage it the same way or not.
the hotel may want a CC with a big Credit Line to secure the rooms.
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Another issue is, would this hotel be most ppl's first choice? For instance, most ppl seem to want a room at one of the big six hotels. If most ppl participate in hotel sale and just end up backing out from a Pendry reservation if they got a room at the big six, how would the block at Pendry hold up? I know Pendry is about 3 blocks away or so but is that close enough for most ppl?
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3 blocks is plenty close enough for me! Add me to the list.
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Considering the closest I've ever stayed was the Declan, 3 blocks is perfect.
I would think if this was something that was a reality, we could gather enough heads to secure a block of some sort.
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I would definitly be interested! And it's close enough to the convention center for me! But like Alyssa said, they might want someone with a large CC to book everything. Maybe if the whole lot of us email them with wanting to get a block of rooms for an event, they'll think about an answer sooner?
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the hotel may want a CC with a big Credit Line to secure the rooms.
Perhaps they would block it like a wedding block, with so many rooms (or floors!) held until a certain date, even a really early like December 1st of the year prior, and each of us would guarantee rooms with our own cards.
Then we could get the party started a day early with an annual gathering on the Tuesday before! :D
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Perhaps they would block it like a wedding block, with so many rooms (or floors!) held until a certain date, even a really early like December 1st of the year prior, and each of us would guarantee rooms with our own cards.
This is the procedure i've used to book rooms for a family reunion. same thing. However, I'm not sure the hotel will go for it during sdcc.
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If anything, they say "no" and we're no worse off than we currently are. I'm very interested in hearing the hotel's response.
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Its certainly worth the effort. All we can do is give it the ol college try and see what they say.
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It never hurts to ask or try. The worse that happens is they say no, but to not even attempt it would be silly.
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I would definitly be interested! And it's close enough to the convention center for me! But like Alyssa said, they might want someone with a large CC to book everything. Maybe if the whole lot of us email them with wanting to get a block of rooms for an event, they'll think about an answer sooner?
That can get messy and make us look unorganized. They're simply not ready to go into discussion about it right now, and when they are I'm sure they're going to want to see what CCI comes up with. We weren't outright rejected, but beware that CCI may be getting first dibs on a room block. Don't worry I'll keep in touch with the hotel though throughout the year.
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That can get messy and make us look unorganized. They're simply not ready to go into discussion about it right now, and when they are I'm sure they're going to want to see what CCI comes up with. We weren't outright rejected, but beware that CCI may be getting first dibs on a room block. Don't worry I'll keep in touch with the hotel though throughout the year.
Agreed. The last thing they want/need is a bunch of people emailing them, especially when the hotel isn't even open for business yet. I'm sure at this moment they have more important things to worry about then trying to answer a ton of emails about a SDCC block.
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I can definitely see this being a one time thing. But an annual thing is a totally different matter.
It may be way too early to even begin thinking of these scenarios since the hotel can just answer back with a simple rejection letter.
But if this idea were to fly, the hotel is going to need some kind of assurance that the block of rooms will be paid for consistently year after year.
If the hotel accepted this proposal but wanted card to put down the deposit for the block, who would do it? I'd be hard pressed to find someone willing to put forth a couple thousand dollar deposit for people that they don't personally know. Especially if the deposit has to be made very early (5-6 months out)
The another question to be asked is if the Hotel gave the forum a block of rooms, who would get those rooms? I know a lot of people here are interested but who would actually get a room year after year (Con tickets aren't guaranteed, financial and health status vary)? Wouldn't this ultimately turn into another lottery system like the one CCI has?
I'd like to see something like this happen but there are a bunch of details that need to be thought of first.
I think have a potential solution to the questions can have a lot of influence on if they even give this idea any consideration.
I feel like being in contact with the hotel is a good thing but I don't see them giving it this much effort or thought when they can just partner up with CCI, look at the market and price themselves accordingly and essentially do very little work. I can also definitely see them coming back with an higher room rate (but lower than non-discounted SDCC market rate) that what they give if they joined the hotelpocalypse. (but this may be a non-issue and expected)
tldr; Probably should think of specifics/details if this idea is going to work. Probably will need to do most or if not all the heavy lifting if this idea is going to fly.
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That can get messy and make us look unorganized. They're simply not ready to go into discussion about it right now, and when they are I'm sure they're going to want to see what CCI comes up with. We weren't outright rejected, but beware that CCI may be getting first dibs on a room block. Don't worry I'll keep in touch with the hotel though throughout the year.
True. True. Excitement getting to my head=D
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would be interested
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I can definitely see this being a one time thing. But an annual thing is a totally different matter.
It may be way too early to even begin thinking of these scenarios since the hotel can just answer back with a simple rejection letter.
But if this idea were to fly, the hotel is going to need some kind of assurance that the block of rooms will be paid for consistently year after year.
If the hotel accepted this proposal but wanted card to put down the deposit for the block, who would do it? I'd be hard pressed to find someone willing to put forth a couple thousand dollar deposit for people that they don't personally know. Especially if the deposit has to be made very early (5-6 months out)
The another question to be asked is if the Hotel gave the forum a block of rooms, who would get those rooms? I know a lot of people here are interested but who would actually get a room year after year (Con tickets aren't guaranteed, financial and health status vary)? Wouldn't this ultimately turn into another lottery system like the one CCI has?
I'd like to see something like this happen but there are a bunch of details that need to be thought of first.
I think have a potential solution to the questions can have a lot of influence on if they even give this idea any consideration.
I feel like being in contact with the hotel is a good thing but I don't see them giving it this much effort or thought when they can just partner up with CCI, look at the market and price themselves accordingly and essentially do very little work. I can also definitely see them coming back with an higher room rate (but lower than non-discounted SDCC market rate) that what they give if they joined the hotelpocalypse. (but this may be a non-issue and expected)
tldr; Probably should think of specifics/details if this idea is going to work. Probably will need to do most or if not all the heavy lifting if this idea is going to fly.
I see what you're saying, but this is a cross that bridge when we get there situation. We don't even know if this is going to happen.
However, people here tend to book backup hotels well in advance even up to the $499/night rate. I would think we could make the rooms transferable, but non-refundable. Almost like the early bird sale.
If they'll require some type of deposit then I guess one way to tackle that is to contact those who are interested to place a deposit themselves via PayPal or some other way to make people feel secure.
As to who will get those rooms....well first come, first serve? I would like to for sure contact people who are participating in this thread and have claimed interest. If we get permission to label this as a FoCC meetup then I would like to input from [member=1]alyssa[/member] and her team to see what would be a fair way.
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I see what you're saying, but this is a cross that bridge when we get there situation. We don't even know if this is going to happen.
However, people here tend to book backup hotels well in advance even up to the $499/night rate. I would think we could make the rooms transferable, but non-refundable. Almost like the early bird sale.
If they'll require some type of deposit then I guess one way to tackle that is to contact those who are interested to place a deposit themselves via PayPal or some other way to make people feel secure.
As to who will get those rooms....well first come, first serve? I would like to for sure contact people who are participating in this thread and have claimed interest. If we get permission to label this as a FoCC meetup then I would like to input from [member=1]alyssa[/member] and her team to see what would be a fair way.
Can i assume you're interested in being the point/organizer person?
who get's the rooms is a question for a later day, when we have more information
organizations need to speak from one voice, hence needing one spokesperson in dealing with the hotel.
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I figured it'd be a first come first served kinda thing kinda like the FoCC dinner meetup. Have the boss lady give a window of time to RSVP and once we meet capacity, close it off. Having this in addition to the Exchange Doc would be awesome.
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or are you interested?
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I'd be happy to lend some ideas in a think tank if the hotel were willing to bite on the idea.
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Can i assume you're interested in being the point/organizer person?
who get's the rooms is a question for a later day, when we have more information
organizations need to speak from one voice, hence needing one spokesperson in dealing with the hotel.
Sure, I'm interested :)
Aren't there other hotels that CCI haven't scooped for their sale. Like the Springwood Suites? ::) Or is it Springhill? Anyway do you think we should perhaps contact another hotel as well to see if they would be interested in holding a block of rooms for SDCC 2017?
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Sure, I'm interested :)
Aren't there other hotels that CCI haven't scooped for their sale. Like the Springwood Suites? ::) Or is it Springhill? Anyway do you think we should perhaps contact another hotel as well to see if they would be interested in holding a block of rooms for SDCC 2017?
I would think so, it doesn't hurt to have options and be able to compare prices. Ultimately though most forum members want to be as close as they can get.
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Here's hoping MarvelGurl will get favorable responses down the road!
(this means I'm interested in participating were this to come to fruition :) )
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Daydreaming of the what it could be is too exciting. :D
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I love that we feel empowered enough to do this on our own for our own. It could be the answer to our dreams. This forum rox!
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I'm definitely interested, this would be great if they allow it.
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Depending on the pricing, I'd be interested.
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If this works, I'd be interested as well. :)
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Count me in too! I hope it works out.
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Count me in as well! Think of all the fun with hallways full of FOCC members!
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I'd love to be in on this.
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I'm just catching up after a conference and on a plane right now so I haven't been through the whole thread but yessss! This is a really cool idea!
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Can you imagine what kind of message would be sent to SDCC if this actually happened?
Fans taking the hotel situation into their own hands.
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I'd like to be in on this as I'm growing desperate to have somewhere for our group to stay.
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[member=485]Mdgeist316[/member] I wish you luck on getting a place and I'm sure you'll end up somewhere as hotels will start to open up again after the April 30th deadline for a full refund. However, please be aware that this room block I'm trying to secure will be for San Diego Comic Con 2017
I have sent proposal requests to two more downtown properties; Springhill Suites, and Residence Inn.
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That's OK. I plan to to attend next year as well.
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Making some headway here!
I already received a reply from the Sales Manager of the Marriott Properties as to my inquiry about room blocks for Springhill and Residence Inn. He asked for some more details on the event, how many rooms, etc, etc.
I also received another reply from the Director of Sales at the Pendry. He recommended that I check back with him after Labor Day about the room block and invited me to come and preview The Pendry when I'm in town for Comic Con in July. I will make an effort to go, and I would like to invite [member=1]alyssa[/member] to come as well or in place of, as I think it's best to put a face to a name.
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I also received another reply from the Director of Sales at the Pendry. He recommended that I check back with him after Labor Day about the room block and invited me to come and preview The Pendry when I'm in town for Comic Con in July. I will make an effort to go, and I would like to invite [member=1]alyssa[/member] to come as well or in place of, as I think it's best to put a face to a name.
Yes, I will make this a priority.
Good work [member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member] !!
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Yes, I will make this a priority.
Good work!!
Thanks! :)
Denied by Marriott though. They have already committed to CCI as their overflow hotel.
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Great job [member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member]. If you need any additional help I'm more than willing to put my negotiating skills or any other help I can lend a hand to!!!!
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Also in..if theres a list
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Making some headway here!
I already received a reply from the Sales Manager of the Marriott Properties as to my inquiry about room blocks for Springhill and Residence Inn. He asked for some more details on the event, how many rooms, etc, etc.
I also received another reply from the Director of Sales at the Pendry. He recommended that I check back with him after Labor Day about the room block and invited me to come and preview The Pendry when I'm in town for Comic Con in July. I will make an effort to go, and I would like to invite [member=1]alyssa[/member] to come as well or in place of, as I think it's best to put a face to a name.
I would take this as a very good sign, as they have invited you to go along whilst in SD.
I'd love to see in an uninhabited hotel before it opens. Weird but fascinating.
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Making some headway here!
I already received a reply from the Sales Manager of the Marriott Properties as to my inquiry about room blocks for Springhill and Residence Inn. He asked for some more details on the event, how many rooms, etc, etc.
I also received another reply from the Director of Sales at the Pendry. He recommended that I check back with him after Labor Day about the room block and invited me to come and preview The Pendry when I'm in town for Comic Con in July. I will make an effort to go, and I would like to invite [member=1]alyssa[/member] to come as well or in place of, as I think it's best to put a face to a name.
That is awesome!
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I'm really excited about this idea! Even if it doesn't work out at this particular hotel...this is a great thinking outside of the box strategy! I'm really loving the idea of pitching in for a reception/meeting room too.
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What is everyone thinking in regards to price range they are willing to consider if the Pendry was willing to negotiate? Some people mentioned we may need to "outbid" comicon for a block of rooms for a date range.
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What is everyone thinking in regards to price range they are willing to consider if the Pendry was willing to negotiate? Some people mentioned we may need to "outbid" comicon for a block or rooms for a range of dates.
The Pendry is being marketed as a luxury hotel. I wouldn't be surprised if it is priced like the Andaz, Palomar or the Hard Rock on the open market. That's what I would expect. Low to mid $300's per night.
I don't see this as a "save money" move, but a "avoid the uncertainties of the hotel sale" move.
Their website says the rooms will be 350 square feet.
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I'd be game for either hotel, TBH, though it depends on how I luck out with preregistration. :)
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The Pendry is being marketed as a luxury hotel. I wouldn't be surprised if it is priced like the Andaz, Palomar or the Hard Rock on the open market. That's what I would expect. Low to mid $300's per night.
I don't see this as a "save money" move, but a "avoid the uncertainties of the hotel sale" move.
Their website says the rooms will be 350 square feet.
Exactly. It's about reducing the stress. The only way to look at it in a "saving money" way is to think about what they would charge without a block. Would they pull a Hilton and try $1K a night, or $750 or some other crazy number.
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The Pendry is being marketed as a luxury hotel. I wouldn't be surprised if it is priced like the Andaz, Palomar or the Hard Rock on the open market. That's what I would expect. Low to mid $300's per night.
I don't see this as a "save money" move, but a "avoid the uncertainties of the hotel sale" move.
Their website says the rooms will be 350 square feet.
Precisely! I would be more than willing to spend around $300-350/night if it means I'm guaranteed a nice downtown hotel near the Con and I dont have to fool with the hotel sale.
[member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member] is truly awesome for doing the legwork on this idea. major props!
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Can you imagine what kind of message would be sent to SDCC if this actually happened?
Fans taking the hotel situation into their own hands.
Just found this thread and need to catch you up on my communications to CCI.
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I think I said this before, but after reading this thread count me in and put me on the list this is an awesome idea!
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Can i assume you're interested in being the point/organizer person?
who get's the rooms is a question for a later day, when we have more information
organizations need to speak from one voice, hence needing one spokesperson in dealing with the hotel.
[member=1]alyssa[/member] and [member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member] just found this thread and you have no idea of my level of excitement. Hopefully, we can meet up at SDCC. Before moving to IT, large volume accommodations was in my insurance group for almost 10 years and I created a spreadsheet invoice tool used in the industry. Count me in to assist with your efforts on this.
Friends in hospitality sent me the Pendry press release after badge sales. Montage Resorts provided contact information for the newly appointed hotel manager and we've been emailing, very nice guy. That said, I would be glad to help make this an FoCC thing if possible.
To those concerned about location, the Pendry being on J between 5th and 6th is a few blocks in, but Gaslamp blocks are small. Also, the hotel is in the heart of dining and provides easy access to other offsites.
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What is everyone thinking in regards to price range they are willing to consider if the Pendry was willing to negotiate? Some people mentioned we may need to "outbid" comicon for a block of rooms for a date range.
I would think between $300 to $350 per night before taxes is fair. If they want to pace the local hotels in the SDCC block, $300 per night before taxes is a very fair number.
If this works, I have 8 people (including myself), so we would inhabit a couple of rooms.
I also noted another hotel that didn't seem to have an SDCC block, so I reached out to them myself to see if they could negotiate a block of rooms. I'm hoping someone responds soon... the first cut off for hotel deposit refunds is pretty soon.
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I would be happy to pay between $300-$350 for an assured room without going through...well, you know.
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Me,too.
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Making some headway here!
I already received a reply from the Sales Manager of the Marriott Properties as to my inquiry about room blocks for Springhill and Residence Inn. He asked for some more details on the event, how many rooms, etc, etc.
I also received another reply from the Director of Sales at the Pendry. He recommended that I check back with him after Labor Day about the room block and invited me to come and preview The Pendry when I'm in town for Comic Con in July. I will make an effort to go, and I would like to invite [member=1]alyssa[/member] to come as well or in place of, as I think it's best to put a face to a name.
You are a hotel superstar! Thanks so much for doing this for the community.
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I absolutely would be thrilled to pay $300/$350 a night for a downtown hotel. Count me in! The thought of possibly being a part of this FoCC party block puts a huge smile - go team!
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The publicity that a bold move like this could generate for the Pendry hotel would be of value. They would be in a unique position and news folk would want to talk with them...and probably to the heads of the FoCC, too. Oh, this could be so much fun!
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Guys,
$300 a night ? Why in the world would a hotel give us the same negotiated rated it give CCI?
If by some fluke this does work, it will not be at the CCI negotiated rate. Think double that.
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Guys,
$300 a night ? Why in the world would a hotel give us the same negotiated rated it give CCI?
If by some fluke this does work, it will not be at the CCI negotiated rate. Think double that.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I assume OnPeak/TP takes a cut of every room booked, so the hotel has some incentive to cut out that middleman. But when the going market rate for Gaslamp rooms outside of the Comic-Con block is 5x your normal rate, there's not a lot of incentive to have a second block at even just 2x your normal rate.
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Guess I am a bit of a Pollyanna about this.
Even though they would have no trouble at all getting rooms booked, I believe that the publicity from being associated with a bold move like this for a fan group might warrant the Pendry hotel organization's attention. I had never heard of the Pendry before this. For them to associate themselves with bold, new, forward thinking folk- breaking through with new ideas, and a super organized group... Hey, who wouldn't want to be associated with that?
As for cost, here, too, I am optimistic. If they have a choice to make an agreement with SDCC, and FoCC offers first, with a similar agreement at similar room pricing, I believe the edge will go to FoCC. Yeah..I've got my cheerleader pom poms out. Go FoCC!!
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Guess I am a bit of a Pollyanna about this.
Even though they would have no trouble at all getting rooms booked, I believe that the publicity from being associated with a bold move like this for a fan group might warrant the Pendry hotel organization's attention. I had never heard of the Pendry before this. For them to associate themselves with bold, new, forward thinking folk- breaking through with new ideas, and a super organized group... Hey, who wouldn't want to be associated with that?
As for cost, here, too, I am optimistic. If they have a choice to make an agreement with SDCC, and FoCC offers first, with a similar agreement at similar room pricing, I believe the edge will go to FoCC. Yeah..I've got my cheerleader pom poms out. Go FoCC!!
I totally understand the optimism from this thread - securing a hotel room w/o going through the hotel sale would be a load of stress off your back, but like... Realistically, at the end of the day, this is business. Being toted as a luxury hotel already means I highly doubt it's gonna be in the CCI-approved ranged. I agree with alyssa that you're looking at least double (almost to the realistic SDCC norm of almost $1k a night, but higher than the hotelpocalypse $200-300+ range so somewhere in the middle), especially for an area like Gaslamp.
Publicity is nice, but what publicity? Really, this is a forum of dedicated con goers, but we're not a big studio or anything enormous like that would be like bragging rights. Also news of a new (luxury) hotel entering the block will be enough to compete with aging hotels and I can't imagine they would go cheaper to a small group when why not sell at maximum SDCC rate to the public where they can make the utmost buck?
I don't mean to sound negative, just wanting to be realistic, but I sincerely hope the best for everyone here.
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(almost to the realistic SDCC norm of almost $1k a night, but higher than the hotelpocalypse $200-300+ range so somewhere in the middle), especially for an area like Gaslamp.
Hotel rooms for SDCC are normally booked for almost $1,000 a night? Is that what downtown hotels are truly getting from the public (not companies)? I was not aware of that...yikes.
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Hotel rooms for SDCC are normally booked for almost $1,000 a night? Is that what downtown hotels are truly getting from the public (not companies)? I was not aware of that...yikes.
Outside of the official Comic-Con hotel block of rooms (which are discounted), yes, it's about around that range for hotel rooms in the Gaslamp or Downtown area during Comic-Con.
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Outside of the official Comic-Con hotel block of rooms (which are discounted), yes, it's about around that range for hotel rooms in the Gaslamp or Downtown area during Comic-Con.
Well, as Lt. Chekov might say to Kirk- "Criminal, Captain!"
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Well, as Lt. Chekov might say to Kirk- "Criminal, Captain!"
**free market economy**
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I would say lets not assume one way or the other. Just because they could charge double the spoken amount doesn't mean they will. They don't have to even entertain the idea of a separate block but thanks to a few board members we have a couple different places now that are willing to hear out a proposal. Its in our best interest to negotiate a fair price for our potential accomodations.
If the hotel accepts, we're in. If they don't we tried. But it IS worth trying.
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If the hotel accepts, we're in. If they don't we tried. But it IS worth trying.
absolutely- it is worth trying. Hey to be honest, it'd be worth it to me just to hangout with everyone- ;)
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I think it is a dream I never knew I had. I would love to all be in the same hotel.
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it's almost embarrassing to say but it's the idea that started the forum- being able to go to con and have friends to hangout with who enjoy it as much as i do
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it's almost embarrassing to say but it's the idea that started the forum- being able to go to con and have friends to hangout with who enjoy it as much as i do
Alyssa this is site wonderful! I am grateful to you and the others who run this amazing forum. You really keep it feeling like a community. To know that brainstorming is welcomed, warms my fannish heart.
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Regardless of whether or not the Pendry is interested, we could keep an eye on other hotels who were outside of the hotel
sale this year, or will likely be absent from next year's hotel sale. Maybe politics, or pricing, or some other reason will make a
boutique hotel open to our plea?
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Hotel rooms for SDCC are normally booked for almost $1,000 a night? Is that what downtown hotels are truly getting from the public (not companies)? I was not aware of that...yikes.
Hotel Indigo rooms are available for $2,000/night. Motel 6 type hotels are going for $500.
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I like the "concept" of a FoCC negotiated block, whether with the Pendry or not. As you know from my posts, I'm not a fan Of CCI's philosophy on including the whole world in the randomized lottery, but as mentioned before, this is business and we need to be smart and flexible. Negotiating a contract on a hotel is very serious and a big committment.
We will have competition in industry backed by corporations. We also need to remember, if you haven't been to onPeak's website, not only is CCI working with them but so is the San Diego Convention and Visitors Bureau.
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This is all speculation, but can be used for a line of thinking in negotiations down the road if the hotels are open to such a thing.
Might as well put this out there just to see what everyone thinks even though its extremely early to think about these things.
While it is quite likely that the newly opened hotels go with CCI and their block sale, lets pretend that they wont and allow negotiations to occur.
We know that the pricing from CCI hotel sale max out at $400 dollars/night (according to the CCI pdf) for a 2 bed.
We know that it is quite unlikely that negotiating with the new hotels will land a rate cheaper or on the same level of CCI. (~$400)
So the idea would be to negotiate a rate that is more enticing so that they will agree, lets say $100 more/night. So a total of ~$500/night for 2 bed.
Now would FoCC members accept this rate if it got them out of the lottery and into a decently located downtown hotel? I don't know as I've seen numbers thrown out like $300/night as being an ideal number.
Since room rates are not the only other thing that can be negotiated upon, what other caveats or rules would be placed into such a potential agreement?
Possibilities could include,
-Contract for repeat stays (yearly commitment to fill those rooms during con)
-Rates for additional services?
-Ability for the hotel/FoCC to get out of the agreement
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As [member=4299]Bako[/member] said in the previous post, its a really serious commitment to enter with an agreement with a hotel. The opposite would also be true, what consequences would the hotel deal with if they were open to something like this? Would there be any movement from the SDC or the Visitors Bureau?
I know that this potential bridge is way out there in the future but I don't want to get caught on the bridge while it's on fire and breaking down.
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....what consequences would the hotel deal with if they were open to something like this? Would there be any movement from the SDC or the Visitors Bureau?
That is food for thought. With the city of San Diego desperate for keeping SDCC, will there be pressure for every downtown hotel to become part of the solution, i.e. offering up most of their rooms in the SDCC room block? Even if that pressure does come into play, there are still nowhere near enough rooms to fill the need. This process will be very interesting to follow.
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I think in the aftermath of this years Hotelpocalypse a lot of members here would want to consider such an idea and may even be desparate enough to pay $500 a night for a downtown hotel. But in the big picture I do not think most would be willing to commit to that long term. Paying for such a hotel long in advance year to year. I'd gather most would be willing to take their chances and then try to find a solution. Just my opinion though and the logistics of reserving a block of rooms at a time the hotels know they can get $800 a night outside of the CCI Block... well, think of that.
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While others may feel the same way about the hotel situation, let's keep that particular line of discussion within the other thread (SDCC 2016 Hotel Discussion) and maintain this one specifically for the Pendry Hotel, just to keep things organized and easy to follow for anyone who may be watching either of these threads. ^__~
Thank you!
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While others may feel the same way about the hotel situation, let's keep that particular line of discussion within the other thread (SDCC 2016 Hotel Discussion) and maintain this one specifically for the Pendry Hotel, just to keep things organized and easy to follow for anyone who may be watching either of these threads. ^__~
Thank you!
[member=317]Zero[/member] Done! After I finished the venting, I anticipated the change of thread and moved it to the Hotel Discussion. Thank you.
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I think in the aftermath of this years Hotelpocalypse a lot of members here would want to consider such an idea and may even be desparate enough to pay $500 a night for a downtown hotel. But in the big picture I do not think most would be willing to commit to that long term. Paying for such a hotel long in advance year to year. I'd gather most would be willing to take their chances and then try to find a solution. Just my opinion though and the logistics of reserving a block of rooms at a time the hotels know they can get $800 a night outside of the CCI Block... well, think of that.
One issue with getting people to commit to this too is that there will still be the option of the lottery. A lot of people book back-ups, maybe at higher prices to be in the Gaslamp regardless(like I did), but it was always with the intention of trying to get the Bayfront/Omni/another specific Gaslamp hotel and giving that reservation away if possible (which I did.) Now, of course there will be other people who aren't really set on a single hotel or even usually stay at a gaslamp hotel a bit further out and would be happy to. But there are of course those, like me, who would in theory be happy to stay at the Pendry (and honestly I'll be following this thread because it also depends on my friends' thoughts) but ideally want to be right there next to the con or have a hotel that they just love staying at every year and will always be their first choice.
Of course, the solution would be to only quote numbers for the people who would hard-commit to staying at the Pendry, but the issue of peoples' preferences at the end of the day could sway the numbers a fair bit.
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I am hoping to get a decent rate of no more than $350/night. It might be a long shot, but that's why I'm also going to inquire about small package pricing for maybe the breakfast meet up that happens annually. The more business we can give to them the better our negotiation rate. I'm thinking most downtown hotel rates are what they are is because many events happen in most of the downtown hotels, not to mention the stars/studios that can pay the higher rates for their people.
Also, if this were to happen I think it would only be fair to make the rooms non-refundable, but transferable so that if you were to get your preferred hotel in the lottery you can give away your Pendry reservation. This would prevent us from breaking a contract that has guaranteed bookings. Another stipulation that I was thinking of was making sure that if you were to get a Pendry reservation you would have to participate in the hotel lottery so that we can keep helping others in acquiring hotels. We don't want the percentage of people participating and "paying it forward" to go down.
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both excellent idea's
while i do like the broken yoke & the food is excellent, having a larger venue regardless of the hotel block outcome is an interesting idea. tagging [member=1060]DRWHO_42[/member] since if this gets wrapped into the formula I need his input being one of our event coordinators.
Non-refundable rooms is also a smart idea.
i am still very skeptical but it is an interesting idea.
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@MarvelGurl Please PM when you obtain pricing, room capacity, and menu options from them so I can give you approximate headcounts for a possible discussion. My concern for a breakfast there is the cash outlay as we have a reserved area at BY without the need of pre-paying for attendees. The attendees over the few years have built up good attendance numbers and justify my reserving a space there without any major issue.
Also, in my dealings with these types of arrangements they will need a deposit. I would like to know what they will require a also if they need a contract in place.
I also would like to ensure these folks can accommodate us for the breakfast, attendees will have a good time, and since the location is not completely built I have a few other logistical questions.
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[member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member] Please PM when you obtain pricing, room capacity, and menu options from them so I can give you approximate headcounts for a possible discussion. My concern for a breakfast there is the cash outlay as we have a reserved area at BY without the need of pre-paying for attendees. The attendees over the few years have built up good attendance numbers and justify my reserving a space there without any major issue.
Also, in my dealings with these types of arrangements they will need a deposit. I would like to know what they will require a also if they need a contract in place.
I also would like to ensure these folks can accommodate us for the breakfast, attendees will have a good time, and since the location is not completely built I have a few other logistical questions.
Sure thing. Again, this will be a last resort as part of the negotiations. If we can't obtain a block then I don't want to shake up your arrangement with the Broken Yolk.
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If this hotel is as nice as it's being marketed as, I wouldn't be surprised if some networks or production companies will also be talking to them about group sales.
From a new hotel's perspective, they would want some celebrities and big executives to stay in their fancy new hotel to give it some buzz.
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I'm all for this idea. We can be hotel room neighbors.
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I take it there's no update on this as of yet?
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I hope this hotel has a free breakfast buffet with an omlet bar
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I take it there's no update on this as of yet?
There won't be an update until after the convention.
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Given the amount of people who attend Comic Con every year, this hotel should make hundreds of rooms to help house all the attendees
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Can't wait to see how this goes!
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Can't wait to see how this goes!
I was just thinking about this today, too. It seemed like such a long time ago when it was first discussed and now the time is near for a look a progress.
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I was wondering how the FoCC visit to the Pendry Hotel went during the con? Eager to hear if they were receptive to the idea or if they might already be under the SDCC official block.
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Looking at the size and location of the hotel when were there....I'd say it'll be under the hotel block...but maybe not!
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I was wondering how the FoCC visit to the Pendry Hotel went during the con? Eager to hear if they were receptive to the idea or if they might already be under the SDCC official block.
Same!
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Def interested in this hotel as well! Hopefully hear something soon!
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Looking at the size and location of the hotel when were there....I'd say it'll be under the hotel block...but maybe not!
The reservation person at my hotel said it would be in the hotel block.
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The location is close enough that it might become an off-site for a company to host some events. Guess we will just have to wait and see...
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It looks to be a decent sized place. If we can somehow strike a deal with them, that'd be dope cuz its super close to the Convention Center!
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@MarvelGurl, was just wondering how the visit to the Pendry went?
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Unfortunately there wasn't a good time for either me or alyssa to meet with the manager at The Pendry. I have sent another email as of late last week and am awaiting correspondence. If they are apart of the CCI block I wouldn't get our hopes high as they wouldn't want to discount all of their inventory, however until I get a 'no' I will continue to attempt contact.
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Unfortunately there wasn't a good time for either me or alyssa to meet with the manager at The Pendry. I have sent another email as of late last week and am awaiting correspondence. If they are apart of the CCI block I wouldn't get our hopes high as they wouldn't want to discount all of their inventory, however until I get a 'no' I will continue to attempt contact.
Perhaps I am a minority here, but I would be willing to pay a rate slightly above the SDCC rate to not have to deal with the hotel lottery.
Do you think other entities (networks, studios) pay a discount rate or rate above the SDCC rate?
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I'm just guessing, but I'd assume the studios, etc, pay somewhere in between the attendee rate and the rack rate. For somewhere like the Bayfront I'd guess they pay in the $500-600/night range (instead of our $300/night or the $999/night on their website).
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Maybe others knew this, but their website has been updated:
https://www.pendryhotels.com/
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Maybe others knew this, but their website has been updated:
https://www.pendryhotels.com/
Thanks dkd-- Wow. That is some snazzy hotel.
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Maybe others knew this, but their website has been updated:
https://www.pendryhotels.com/
They have the entire month of July crossed off as unavailable.
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They have the entire month of July crossed off as unavailable.
The rest of the year as well. I don't think the dates are blocked off, just that they aren't booking that far out yet.
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Maybe others knew this, but their website has been updated:
https://www.pendryhotels.com/
That is a lovely hotel. Perfect for us nerds ;)
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The rest of the year as well. I don't think the dates are blocked off, just that they aren't booking that far out yet.
Agreed.
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That's a great-looking Hotel, but EXPENSIVE. For kicks and giggles, I entered in some off-peak weeknight dates and it came out to $405 per night! Ouch! I hope SDCC offers some real discounted rates.
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At those rates I'll try try for the Hilton again but maybe put it in my top 6 list.
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I took a quick look at the Marriott Marina hotel's regular rates for some random dates and they seem to be in the $400 a night range, too.
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I took a quick look at the Marriott Marina hotel's regular rates for some random dates and they seem to be in the $400 a night range, too.
I've stayed at the MMM for much less, like $150/night. I can't remember when but its last few years and was not necessarily off peak but there wasn't a convention at the time. So, I don't think it's always that high. Maybe The Pendry will come down, too.
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I checked the Pendry Hotel website for the first time in weeks. July shows up, but they have X's over the Comic Con dates.
I don't know if that means a bunch of people booked those dates or if they are unavailable due to becoming an official SDCC hotel.
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I checked the Pendry Hotel website for the first time in weeks. July shows up, but they have X's over the Comic Con dates.
I don't know if that means a bunch of people booked those dates or if they are unavailable due to becoming an official SDCC hotel.
I would assume the latter.
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I checked the Pendry Hotel website for the first time in weeks. July shows up, but they have X's over the Comic Con dates.
I don't know if that means a bunch of people booked those dates or if they are unavailable due to becoming an official SDCC hotel.
So this isn't directly from the Pendry (from how I'm reading this comment) but someone commented this just after 2016 SDCC in the 2017 hotel thread:
Regarding the Pendry, I asked the reservation person at the hotel I stayed at if they knew if the Pendry would be an official Comic Con hotel and they said "yes".
So my guess is CCI contacted representatives quite early and they already knew to block off those dates for the con.
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Just checked their website. July 19-22, 2017 are unavailable for booking.
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I just saw this thread. Is this dead? It was a really cool idea.
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I just saw this thread. Is this dead? It was a really cool idea.
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Yes, I believe the idea is dead, at least for this year.
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Heck of an idea, I wonder who's idea it was lol.
Bummer it didn't work out.
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Interesting that they are not on the hotel list thays was released today
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Just called and they confirmed they are booked by comic con, must've for special guests
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Just called and they confirmed they are booked by comic con, must've for special guests
Interesting!!
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Yea my friend said they must be booked for special guests or something of the sort too
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Just called and they confirmed they are booked by comic con, must've for special guests
At least that means more rooms elsewhere for the rest of us I hope!
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Interesting... maybe they are booked for Comic Con, but not by CCI....
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Maybe they booked the entire hotel to networks, big exhibitors and studios. Or maybe SDCC booked it for their special guests.
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Maybe they booked the entire hotel to networks, big exhibitors and studios. Or maybe SDCC booked it for their special guests.
I'll throw out my own guess. I've noticed in the many years I've entered the lottery, sometimes the list we get now isn't the same as the final list during the lottery. If you read SDCC's own words, it's a "sample" of the list. I wonder if the Pendry could be on the final form when we're filling it out?
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I'll throw out my own guess. I've noticed in the many years I've entered the lottery, sometimes the list we get now isn't the same as the final list during the lottery. If you read SDCC's own words, it's a "sample" of the list. I wonder if the Pendry could be on the final form when we're filling it out?
That would be throwing a little monkeywrench in the selection process.
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That would be throwing a little monkeywrench in the selection process.
I actually hate when that happens. When it was speed/time based, I had to go so quickly, it'd throw a wrench in my system because I'd see a hotel or room type I wasn't prepared for. It'd always slow me down a bit.
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When I was in San Diego in early March I walked past this place and it looked real fancy schmancy. Seems like a bourgeoisie place for the VIPs.
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When I was in San Diego in early March I walked past this place and it looked real fancy schmancy. Seems like a bourgeoisie place for the VIPs.
Then, too classy for me. I'm a stumble into bed fully clothed sort of person during SDCC. One year, I think I ate Bayfront nachos in bed at least 3 times as my main meal of the day. I'll let the vips be fancy.
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I was on their website, looking at the hotel and rooms. They did look pretty fancy. Really pretty rooms and pool though.
When I was in San Diego in early March I walked past this place and it looked real fancy schmancy. Seems like a bourgeoisie place for the VIPs.
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I am so curious as to who is staying there. I think I'll stop in for a drink to people watch and see if I can figure out who is staying there.
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Then, too classy for me. I'm a stumble into bed fully clothed sort of person during SDCC. One year, I think I ate Bayfront nachos in bed at least 3 times as my main meal of the day. I'll let the vips be fancy.
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You saw your hotel bed 3 times during SDCC???
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Then, too classy for me. I'm a stumble into bed fully clothed sort of person during SDCC. One year, I think I ate Bayfront nachos in bed at least 3 times as my main meal of the day. I'll let the vips be fancy.
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You had me at 'Bayfront nachos'
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This was such a great idea. I had it all planned in my head. The FoCC headquarters, with our own lounge, we would have some celebrity guests and secret panels...::sigh::
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You saw your hotel bed 3 times during SDCC???
I become a 92 year old woman (no offrnse to 92 year old women) during SDCC. I'm usually a 4-6 hr sleeper and night owl kinda gal. At SDCC, I've missed more than a few things because I fell asleep during the early evening hours.
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You had me at 'Bayfront nachos'
Those things are legit good. Or maybe i was just super hungry. I don't know if I had them last year but the year before I think I ate then nearly every night. Year before, I lived off of gluten free blueberry muffins at MMM. I basically eat one food for the entire convention. I need to change that I guess. :)
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This was such a great idea. I had it all planned in my head. The FoCC headquarters, with our own lounge, we would have some celebrity guests and secret panels...::sigh::
How big of a group do you think we would have to get to negotiate a decent rate at another hotel? Would anyone else even be willing to do a block for a new group? Or are all locked in with studios and cci?
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How big of a group do you think we would have to get to negotiate a decent rate at another hotel? Would anyone else even be willing to do a block for a new group? Or are all locked in with studios and cci?
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Maybe if we went for one of the medium sized hotels, it could be successful. Some entity wrapped up the Pendry pretty tightly and quickly. Who that is, we should pretty easily be able to ferret out closer to, or during the con for sure. I am going to see what I can find out. I plan to be there a few days early. After all, as a 'cult', shouldn't we have some kind of headquarters? :)
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I'd be willing to bet that you could figure out who locked up the Pendry if someone were to go by the hotel for 30 minutes during the con and see who comes in/out, look for signs (e.g. 'Welcome group So-and-So') and/or chit chat with people in the lobby.
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I think I've noticed a slight change in Pendry's status.
I would swear that Wednesday had been X'd out on their website, but only Thursday, Friday, and Saturday are.