Post by: Transmute Jun on April 28, 2022, 03:13:30 PM
https://www.friendsofcc.com/2022/05/17/sdcc-2022-hotel-lottery-analysis/
*****
The form is ready. Please fill out the form!
https://forms.gle/umPiF3vTZ57KUVfe7
Anyone who has not already done so may fill out the form. If you did not get a response yet from OnPeak (or if you got an email stating that you are on the waitlist) you can also fill out the form.
***Original Post***
Some of you may recall that in the past, the FoCC Blog has written articles analyzing the hotel lottery results. Unfortunately, the author of those articles has not returned to FoCC since the pandemic began. As such, I'm going to attempt to fill his (very large) shoes.
After the hotel results come out, I'm going to attempt to gather data and write up the results in an article. Please look for a form link to fill out starting May 3.
One crucial component of this form will be your access time (including seconds) to the request form. Please determine that time NOW, so that we can have the most accurate data.
Here is some information from @SteveD (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3710) to assist in determiing your access time. You can also check out your browsing history for exact for access time.
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If you're using the Chrome browser, there is a tool from nirsoft called chromecacheview that will show you the full browser cache.
For the entry timestamp, you're looking for a cache entry with a URL that starts with https://cci.onpeak.info/addRequest?q=.
For the submission timestamp, you're looking for a cache entry with the URL https://cci.onpeak.info/thanks.
Thank you!
Post by: clambert1273 on April 28, 2022, 03:20:34 PM
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Post by: accelerate on April 28, 2022, 03:41:25 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 28, 2022, 03:43:37 PM
@Transmute Jun (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=314) Just FYI, "chromecacheview" doesn't seem to be available on the Chrome Web Store anymore. I even tried to search for "Nirsoft" but came up with no results.
@SteveD (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3710) Do you have a suggestion for this?
Post by: clambert1273 on April 28, 2022, 04:04:05 PM
@SteveD (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3710) Do you have a suggestion for this?It's there
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/chrome_cache_view.html
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Post by: foxbatkllr on April 28, 2022, 04:06:11 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 28, 2022, 04:08:42 PM
Unfortunately it seems those of us using iphones will not have reliable data. I have not been able to find a way to access time stamp on history from safari on iphone.
Please just do the best you can. Any data we have is helpful, and the more the better!
Post by: accelerate on April 28, 2022, 04:18:54 PM
It's there
https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/chrome_cache_view.html
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Ah thanks. I thought it was a Chrome extension, and so was looking at the Chrome Web Store, not an external utility. Unfortunately, the browser that got into the hotel form this morning was on a MacBook Pro, so I can't use that utility since it's Windows only.
Post by: Jim Watari on April 28, 2022, 04:45:45 PM
I tried using Chrome cache view and switched the folder to my browser "Brave" and searched for "onpeak" but no luck
Post by: TardisMom on April 28, 2022, 05:49:34 PM
If I click on History on the toolbar at the top, and then Show Full History at the bottom. That opens a page with all my clicks from the day, in chronological order back to the morning. I can then see what time I logged into the waiting room, and when I submitted. I noted my entry time to the form when it happened. But this may help some get their submission time, at least.
Post by: oneroomdisco on April 28, 2022, 06:29:48 PM
Post by: Iris on April 28, 2022, 07:24:20 PM
I can say though that I got in at basically the exact time my friend sent a discord message (stamped 9:00) that she'd gotten into the form. I remember I was checking seconds and thinking, "Wow there's still a good chunk of the minute left until 9:01," and I saw the window load the form. I was completely distracted after that, so I didn't think to record the seconds.
Sorry I can't give any further detailed information. The other option was that I got in using ie (yes, I had one of those open to just try it) and I'm equally clueless as to how to get info from that other than when I first landed on the site.
Post by: accelerate on April 28, 2022, 07:29:04 PM
- Open the history panel (CMD-Y on Mac or CTRL-H on Windows)
- Scroll to the first instance of "Comic-Con 2022 cci.onpeak.info"
- Right click on the timestamp (eg. "9:02") and click on "Inspect"
- A new window should open with the HTML markup, and you should see "Time accessed"
(https://i.imgur.com/97srqYr.png)
EDIT: Just found a simpler way. Do steps 1 & 2 as above, and just hover your cursor over the timestamp for 2-3 seconds.
(https://i.imgur.com/bckVvFC.png)
Post by: SteveD on April 28, 2022, 07:45:11 PM
Unfortunately, it looks like I got in on my first form with Edge (I'm pretty sure) and I can't seem to find any tools or programs that will display more detailed information other than what I'm seeing as when I got into the waiting room. mscommunity says you can't do it default via browser settings either.Since Edge is a Chrome Browser, you can still use ChromeCacheViewer from NirSoft to view the cache.
I can say though that I got in at basically the exact time my friend sent a discord message (stamped 9:00) that she'd gotten into the form. I remember I was checking seconds and thinking, "Wow there's still a good chunk of the minute left until 9:01," and I saw the window load the form. I was completely distracted after that, so I didn't think to record the seconds.
Sorry I can't give any further detailed information. The other option was that I got in using ie (yes, I had one of those open to just try it) and I'm equally clueless as to how to get info from that other than when I first landed on the site.
Use edge://version in the address bar to find the Profile Path and use that to select the cache folder in the viewer.
Post by: beadrbop on April 28, 2022, 09:06:18 PM
I was on my Mac, on Chrome. I don't speak computer, but this is how I got my data:Thanks for posting this- I was able to find my times on my macbook. I used Safari (old laptop it was the first browser that got in). Found the library in my HD and did a search for "history". Then I clicked the list view to show the times. It showed the access to waiting room and when got in to the form (and submit etc). This helped allay my worries. Got in a little quicker since I forgot to look at time. Keeping fingers crossed for all!
If I click on History on the toolbar at the top, and then Show Full History at the bottom. That opens a page with all my clicks from the day, in chronological order back to the morning. I can then see what time I logged into the waiting room, and when I submitted. I noted my entry time to the form when it happened (I had an extension to let me know). But this may help some get their submission time, at least.
Post by: Iris on April 28, 2022, 09:37:31 PM
Since Edge is a Chrome Browser, you can still use ChromeCacheViewer from NirSoft to view the cache.
Use edge://version in the address bar to find the Profile Path and use that to select the cache folder in the viewer.
Unfortunately, while I was able to view my recorded Edge cache... I've come to the conclusion it must have been one of the last minute private windows I opened because I'm not finding the session anywhere for any of my browsers and I did get through and submit, there is a pdf of the confirmation. fml
It was nice to see that it seems that if you go into ChromeCacheView to select a different cache, they actually already had some hotkeys to options, Edge included. But yeah this is a big oversight on my part that it could have been one of the private browsing windows. I did those at 40 seconds before 9am and completely forgot about them after the fact.
Post by: ShannonCooper87 on April 28, 2022, 10:11:04 PM
Since Edge is a Chrome Browser, you can still use ChromeCacheViewer from NirSoft to view the cache.
Use edge://version in the address bar to find the Profile Path and use that to select the cache folder in the viewer.
Thank for the information SteveD I hadn't realised that Edge was a chrome Browser. Now I have been able to get the times for the first form that I filled out.
But I do have a question I have the following timestamp of 2.00.53 am AEST for https://cci.onpeak.info/addRequest?q=763c4c92-95df-404f-b964-8da683494748&p=5ea034b9-040b-42fd-905a-6467de01a93f&ts=1651161655&c=onpeak&e=cci22live&rt=Queue&h=0d14a2e83894fbf8128fe05bbaf7ed55
I then have this one 2.08.36 am AEST for https://cci.onpeak.info/addRequest
and then the final one at 2.08.36 am AEST for https://cci.onpeak.info/thanks
When I was completing the form I hit submit and then went on to my second form (access at 2.03.38 am AEST), after submitting that one at 2.08.20 am AEST I then realised that I didn't put in the dates for the first one, went back and added them and then pressed submit.
What do people think will be the time that they take as my access time?
Post by: chirigami on April 28, 2022, 10:52:03 PM
Interestingly, though I didn't fill out the form itself, when I clicked to my other browsers, OnPeak had a little pop up letting me know that my session had started at "11:04" (really, 9:04 my time) and it wanted me to do the thing. I guess 'cause I was idle?
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 29, 2022, 05:10:02 AM
Post by: SteveD on April 29, 2022, 05:10:09 AM
Thank for the information SteveD I hadn't realised that Edge was a chrome Browser. Now I have been able to get the times for the first form that I filled out.First, let me say that you should be getting bonus points for entering your form at 2-oclock in the morning :o. That's shear dedication.
But I do have a question I have the following timestamp of 2.00.53 am AEST for https://cci.onpeak.info/addRequest?q=763c4c92-95df-404f-b964-8da683494748&p=5ea034b9-040b-42fd-905a-6467de01a93f&ts=1651161655&c=onpeak&e=cci22live&rt=Queue&h=0d14a2e83894fbf8128fe05bbaf7ed55
I then have this one 2.08.36 am AEST for https://cci.onpeak.info/addRequest
and then the final one at 2.08.36 am AEST for https://cci.onpeak.info/thanks
When I was completing the form I hit submit and then went on to my second form (access at 2.03.38 am AEST), after submitting that one at 2.08.20 am AEST I then realised that I didn't put in the dates for the first one, went back and added them and then pressed submit.
What do people think will be the time that they take as my access time?
The time logged for your entry should be 2.00.53 no matter when you pressed the submit button, as long as it is within the 15 minutes allotted.
So, since you seemed to have submitted the form at 2.08.36, you should be fine.
Good Luck!
Post by: SteveD on April 29, 2022, 05:22:08 AM
I had Chrome, Firefox and Edge open. My first form opened up on Firefox at 9:02 PST according to the time stamp in the History tab; my thank you page has the time stamp of 9:04 PST.The big red button, aka the "Yes, please" button will popup when it is your turn to enter the form and your browser session is deemed to be "hidden". Typically, hidden means that you have switched to a different tab in the browser or you have minimized the window, but there could be other reasons to trigger that status.
Interestingly, though I didn't fill out the form itself, when I clicked to my other browsers, OnPeak had a little pop up letting me know that my session had started at "11:04" (really, 9:04 my time) and it wanted me to do the thing. I guess 'cause I was idle?
I am uncertain as to which timestamp would be used in this scenario, whether it be when your session was selected or when you pressed the button. There is currently not enough data to determine which one it is. The cache timestamp would only indicate when the button was pressed and you subsequently entered the form, not when the popup occurred.
Maybe we could include this information with the other data if it is available.
Post by: ShannonCooper87 on April 29, 2022, 05:41:45 AM
First, let me say that you should be getting bonus points for entering your form at 2-oclock in the morning :o. That's shear dedication.
The time logged for your entry should be 2.00.53 no matter when you pressed the submit button, as long as it is within the 15 minutes allotted.
So, since you seemed to have submitted the form at 2.08.36, you should be fine.
Good Luck!
Thanks its always a bit of a struggle doing the hotel lottery coz its on a weekday, but at least this year I got to work from home today so didnt have to be up quite so early lol.
Thats what I was hoping so will see what happens when I get the results on the 3rd
Post by: clambert1273 on April 29, 2022, 05:47:51 AM
Unless ur a dingus like me that had private browsers running so no history
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So the best I can guesstimate is based off of my times in 2019 which the actions were similar.
I only submitted one form that hit instant <= 30 seconds. My 2019 one was 34 sec & this was very similar. It went straight to the form, no loading time.
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Post by: marcia29 on April 29, 2022, 06:43:49 AM
Post by: chirigami on April 29, 2022, 10:54:13 AM
The big red button, aka the "Yes, please" button will popup when it is your turn to enter the form and your browser session is deemed to be "hidden". Typically, hidden means that you have switched to a different tab in the browser or you have minimized the window, but there could be other reasons to trigger that status.Huh, interesting. I'd go back to check if there is a time stamp to confirm anything about it but I don't know if there would be anything since I didn't fill in the form? (In History I only have the time I entered the waitlist). I closed the page at the pop up. I could check if the little extension picks up anything a later? For Science?
I am uncertain as to which timestamp would be used in this scenario, whether it be when your session was selected or when you pressed the button. There is currently not enough data to determine which one it is. The cache timestamp would only indicate when the button was pressed and you subsequently entered the form, not when the popup occurred.
Maybe we could include this information with the other data if it is available.
Post by: Karilg on April 29, 2022, 03:43:19 PM
Post by: NCDS on April 29, 2022, 03:57:04 PM
Post by: rickythump on April 29, 2022, 04:16:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/hRBnSss.png)
in at X:00:54
Post by: oneroomdisco on April 29, 2022, 04:49:24 PM
I was using Edge and my sister got in on her phone browser, so unfortunately I can't provide second level detail, but we both got in before 9:01. (Edge shows me an access time of 9 am, but nothing in terms of seconds).I used ChromeCacheViewer and I have an exact access time of 9:00:38. As my sister was on her phone, I don't know the exact time stamp for her request, but we were together during the sale and her page definitely loaded a few seconds before mine did.
Post by: madfly on May 02, 2022, 01:56:31 PM
Post by: PatrickG on May 02, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
It seems like many of you got in either instantaneously or within the first minute! I wasn't so lucky(and never have been)....I think I was let in around 9:04 on my iPhone. Hoping for the best.
I didn't get in until 9:06. Wish I'd thought to use multiple browsers.
Post by: hipchick on May 02, 2022, 03:21:15 PM
Post by: rabbitwarren on May 03, 2022, 04:50:59 AM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 03, 2022, 05:50:10 AM
Post by: clambert1273 on May 03, 2022, 06:11:05 AM
As a note to everyone, since hotel results are supposed to start coming out today, I'll be posting the poll this afternoon/evening for people to start filling in their results.Yup last time, I got my email around 9:30am pdt
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Post by: SlmDiva30 on May 03, 2022, 07:58:07 AM
Post by: Snick3 on May 03, 2022, 10:10:43 AM
Post by: SteveD on May 03, 2022, 10:19:47 AM
As a note to everyone, since hotel results are supposed to start coming out today, I'll be posting the poll this afternoon/evening for people to start filling in their results.@Transmute Jun (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=314)
Could we make sure that we include the number of rooms, the room type(s) (Single, Double, Twin, Triple, etc.) and either the dates or the number of nights requested?
I would like to see if this had any bearing on what was eventually handed out.
Post by: OnePromise on May 03, 2022, 11:12:23 AM
Post by: The Mighty Jerd on May 03, 2022, 12:50:07 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 03, 2022, 02:53:35 PM
Where do you want us to log the timestamp?
Right here!
https://forms.gle/umPiF3vTZ57KUVfe7
Please fill out your information on the following form. Please note, this form is for people who have RECEIVED hotels already. I'll repost this again on May 10 for people who get hotels in the second round.
Post by: hipchick on May 03, 2022, 07:58:43 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 03, 2022, 08:10:28 PM
Post by: VeggieKitten on May 04, 2022, 02:24:49 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 04, 2022, 02:46:54 PM
Post by: lolaswill on May 07, 2022, 04:17:32 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 07, 2022, 05:01:51 PM
Thank you everyone! The form will continue to be open this week, as we wait for the next round of hotel allocations.
Post by: PatrickG on May 10, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
Post by: chaosdreamer on May 10, 2022, 02:36:23 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 10, 2022, 02:56:11 PM
https://forms.gle/VfkBUX3D3SK3xQwP6
At this time, if you did NOT get a resopnse from OnPeak then you can also fill out the form.
Post by: kamisbutterfly on May 11, 2022, 01:50:02 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 11, 2022, 02:29:35 PM
Submitted! I only submitted results for one of my hotel request, can we submit results from our other requests? ex. I did some for friends.
Yes, if you have the information for multiple requests, you can submit for each request made. Every data point is useful!
Post by: Dune930 on May 12, 2022, 02:07:36 PM
Post by: MsButtaskotch on May 13, 2022, 04:15:31 AM
Got my first choice in the 2nd Round! :)
Residence Inn Downtown San Diego!
I may trade it for the Doubletree Downtown San Diego because my mom wants to come also, but I reeeeeaaalllly dont wanna give up this one! I like the accessability to the Train and the Shuttle, and the Little italy area around the corner
Post by: Michaelnaut on May 13, 2022, 04:45:35 AM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 13, 2022, 03:36:30 PM
Post by: accelerate on May 13, 2022, 04:30:36 PM
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 14, 2022, 03:20:23 PM
So we only need to fill out the form, correct? Should we also post in this thread the hotel(s) we got?
It is up to you if you wish to post, but the information I am collecting for the article is through the form.
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 16, 2022, 12:41:00 PM
https://forms.gle/gJUZxU1W3biwEp1z5
Post by: PatrickG on May 16, 2022, 12:59:10 PM
As a reminder, if you are getting emails that you are on the waitlist, you can fill in the hotel lottery survey!
https://forms.gle/gJUZxU1W3biwEp1z5
I didn't get any e-mails for either round. Should I be getting e-mails saying I'm on the waitlist?
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 16, 2022, 01:04:27 PM
I didn't get any e-mails for either round. Should I be getting e-mails saying I'm on the waitlist?
Yes (presuming that you ticked the box that requested the waitlist when you filled out the lottery form). I believe that the deadline to hear about the waitlist is tomorrow.
Post by: PatrickG on May 16, 2022, 01:09:27 PM
Post by: blusurfer on May 16, 2022, 11:44:47 PM
I didn't get access to the hotel request list until probably 9:08-9:09 or so. Does everyone who requests get put on the waitlist and receive notification, or was I so late to the request list that I am completely out of luck?
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2022, 10:31:30 AM
Post by: blusurfer on May 17, 2022, 10:33:47 AM
Still nothing. From what I have seen online, there are quite a number of folks who are not receiving waitlist emails from OnPeak as expected. So frustrating!
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2022, 10:51:20 AM
https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=12066.0
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2022, 03:28:36 PM
https://www.friendsofcc.com/2022/05/17/sdcc-2022-hotel-lottery-analysis/
Post by: blusurfer on May 17, 2022, 03:43:34 PM
Thank you to everyone who submitted their results to this poll! I used them to create an analysis of overall lottery results. You can read the analysis here.
Great write up - thank you for sharing!
It also reinforces just how lousy my luck has been with Hotelpocalypse. Entry after 9:09! No email in either Wave 1 or Wave 2! No email for the waitlist!
However, I've had good luck and gotten a room at my first choice (admittedly, not a popular first choice) through other means every year. :)
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 17, 2022, 03:46:17 PM
Post by: kamisbutterfly on May 17, 2022, 09:19:13 PM
And I always said that 9:02 (which has been my time in all but 2 lotteries) is cursed! But on the bright side we get a waitlist email (well some do but that's for another day).
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 18, 2022, 09:12:56 AM