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Comic-Con International => SDCC Housing, Parking, and Transportation => Topic started by: Angology on July 25, 2016, 06:34:06 PM

Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on July 25, 2016, 06:34:06 PM
Let's get this party started! It is never too early to plan.

I myself have re-booked Hotel Z as a backup (they bumped the rates this year-looks like they figured a few things out!)

I saw the Pendry location while out and about-it looks like a great location.

2016 Interactive Map link (will be replaced if 2017 map is made):
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6052.0
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Az_Rael on July 25, 2016, 10:36:12 PM
Yikes - they did raise the rates.   I can't justify $500 a night for them, so I will pass this year.   

We will have to stalk the Pendry's website.   See if we can catch a deal for next year when that opens for reservations.   
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on July 26, 2016, 06:00:50 AM
I booked Hotel Z as well but didn't find their rates horrible. It's an average of $324 a night for us in a double queen. We have a few nights at $199 (pre-con) and the nights of SDCC are $399.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Az_Rael on July 26, 2016, 06:19:31 AM
I guess I missed out, because they are showing $447/night for a King room now for me.   
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on July 26, 2016, 06:30:32 AM
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I guess I missed out, because they are showing $447/night for a King room now for me.   

I had to call to get my dates too. Not sure that will help or not! But worth a try.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on July 26, 2016, 09:54:48 AM
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I guess I missed out, because they are showing $447/night for a King room now for me.   
It was the same for me, but not all nights were 447-it was the average (I know-same thing, but I am trying to look on the bright side!). It may be that they caught on that it was SDCC weekend (dirty rats!). It was a nice enough experience for me that I will keep it as my back up. I will try harder this year to get a con rate hotel though.

If you call in and get a better rate, let me know.

I did see it as a little cheaper during con, but didn't take the time to book. Thinking back-I could have just gone downstairs and booked! Doh! I guess I was kind of busy.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on July 26, 2016, 09:57:51 AM
I booked while SDCC was still going on, so not sure if the timing played a role in the rates too or what. But there's 4 of us sharing the room so it's not that bad per person. We might still try the lottery when it rolls around.

Honestly, I've been watching their site like a hawk. It was weird though online. I could book the dates OF the convention, but not the days leading up or after. That's why I called them. We always do a week when we go.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Dianekde on July 26, 2016, 10:12:19 AM
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Yikes - they did raise the rates.   I can't justify $500 a night for them, so I will pass this year.   

We will have to stalk the Pendry's website.   See if we can catch a deal for next year when that opens for reservations.

Regarding the Pendry, I asked the reservation person at the hotel I stayed at if they knew if the Pendry would be an official Comic Con hotel and they said "yes".
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on July 26, 2016, 10:30:11 AM
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Regarding the Pendry, I asked the reservation person at the hotel I stayed at if they knew if the Pendry would be an official Comic Con hotel and they said "yes".

A few people from the board met with the Pendry right? Wonder how that went.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on July 26, 2016, 09:50:49 PM
Went ahead and booked a King Suite with Hotel Z, they didn't have any double-kings or queens left so I just went with it. We always try for the Bayfront/MMM in the hotel lottery though because they're our top choice. Of course, it is a bit more expensive but I suppose they've figured out the dates as well. As a back-up, I'll take it. I was able to give my Hotel Z back-up from this year to someone on the forum (though it got swapped around a bit) so that was good at least.

Of note, I know someone at MGH was charged for an extra person due to a glitch in the OP system and it seems they were able to take care of it. Something I've never noticed before is that if you're an HHonors member you get a second guest for free, so not extra head charge, and we were only charged the triple rate and not a quad rate at the Bayfront. So yay? And maybe something to keep in mind for anyone that wants to do the lotto but is worried about pricing for next year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: justboogie on July 27, 2016, 08:28:58 AM
I decided not to book the Hotel Z king suite because usually my group consists of 5+ so a king would not be enough for all of us. Hopefully some more hotel deals pop up soon because so far this is more of the Hotel Z discussion thread, LOL.  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on July 27, 2016, 08:49:02 AM
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I decided not to book the Hotel Z king suite because usually my group consists of 5+ so a king would not be enough for all of us. Hopefully some more hotel deals pop up soon because so far this is more of the Hotel Z discussion thread, LOL.  ;D

The Hotel Z King Suites all have a pull out sofa bed. It's the regular Z King rooms that don't. It's the only reason I went ahead and booked one after verifying that they do.

The Z King Suite ADA specifies it in the little info blurb, but the non ADA equivalent doesn't for whatever reason. You have to go into the room type pages to see though that the Z King Suites have 1 King + 1 sofa-bed. If you're lucky, you may be able to snag one of their double suites (2 beds + 1 sofa bed), but you might have to call to see if they're already all gone or if they're just holding them.

Edited for clarity in room type names.

Edit 2: Looks like the prices have gone up again. Maybe it works a bit based off demand? Or someone has noticed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on July 27, 2016, 08:56:09 AM
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I decided not to book the Hotel Z king suite because usually my group consists of 5+ so a king would not be enough for all of us. Hopefully some more hotel deals pop up soon because so far this is more of the Hotel Z discussion thread, LOL.  ;D

I think the Bay Club Hotel on Shelter Island will be opening soon for next year, or should be now. Wouldn't hurt for a back up.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: battlestar81 on July 27, 2016, 11:38:54 AM
Wyndham Bayside you can hold a room now. I have done this the past few years holding a 2 bed room with them as my backup as you can cancel right before the trip if need be and the hotel is only just under a mile away from the convention center. Yes it is a bit of a walk but better than being stuck in hotel circle or further back! Then if I get in good on the hotel lottery I just cancel it or offer it up to someone on the forums.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Az_Rael on July 27, 2016, 01:47:17 PM
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Wyndham Bayside you can hold a room now. I have done this the past few years holding a 2 bed room with them as my backup as you can cancel right before the trip if need be and the hotel is only just under a mile away from the convention center. Yes it is a bit of a walk but better than being stuck in hotel circle or further back! Then if I get in good on the hotel lottery I just cancel it or offer it up to someone on the forums.

Thanks!  I reserved a room.   After the debacle that was the lottery this year, I am going to really pay attention to backup options. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LadyCerulean on July 27, 2016, 11:58:51 PM
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Wyndham Bayside you can hold a room now. I have done this the past few years holding a 2 bed room with them as my backup as you can cancel right before the trip if need be and the hotel is only just under a mile away from the convention center. Yes it is a bit of a walk but better than being stuck in hotel circle or further back! Then if I get in good on the hotel lottery I just cancel it or offer it up to someone on the forums.

Y'know, this isn't a bad idea.  I was out on Harbor Island with roommates this year, and the shuttles could be such a royal pain as the weekend progressed.  I'll book this as a backup in case my (first time ever) going for a hotel in 2017 doesn't pan out.  Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Cory on July 28, 2016, 09:14:43 AM
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Y'know, this isn't a bad idea.  I was out on Harbor Island with roommates this year, and the shuttles could be such a royal pain as the weekend progressed.  I'll book this as a backup in case my (first time ever) going for a hotel in 2017 doesn't pan out.  Thanks for the tip!
Don't forget you have to book at full price ($359 per night, I think) in order to be able to cancel the room later.  The other, cheaper options require a non-refundable deposit, and are non-cancelable.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on July 28, 2016, 10:19:28 AM
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Don't forget you have to book at full price ($359 per night, I think) in order to be able to cancel the room later.  The other, cheaper options require a non-refundable deposit, and are non-cancelable.

Good reminder to always check and double check before booking!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: frgx on July 28, 2016, 10:44:27 AM
I used some reward points that I had through Wyndham and booked the Wyndham Bayside for $150 a night plus points. Not bad. I can still cancel if I want.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Luxuria on July 30, 2016, 09:30:58 PM
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I used some reward points that I had through Wyndham and booked the Wyndham Bayside for $150 a night plus points. Not bad. I can still cancel if I want.



NICE!

Also, remember, many places will take AAA for booking and you can get a discount.  It's about 10% but it's better than nothing!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Resin on July 30, 2016, 11:21:28 PM
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Don't forget you have to book at full price ($359 per night, I think) in order to be able to cancel the room later.  The other, cheaper options require a non-refundable deposit, and are non-cancelable.

^

With taxes it worked out to $404 a night (savings not found :P  ). Exorbitant, but it's better than winding up empty handed in the lottery and not having the option.

Also, Google Maps says it's 1.3 mi walking distance but that's to the middle of the convention center.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: QTkeylala on August 01, 2016, 10:23:48 AM
FYI, I just recently saw on Expedia, that the Hilton Airport/Marina was available at below $200/night. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: karl clement on August 01, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
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FYI, I just recently saw on Expedia, that the Hilton Airport/Marina was available at below $200/night.

just booked this one as a backup myself yesterday, stayed here last year, free shuttle from airport
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on August 01, 2016, 02:33:03 PM
I saw that Days Inn and Suites Seaworld is currently listed as $80/night with free cancellation at hotels-for-everyone.com.

https://www.hotels-for-everyone.com/destination/152D9A9D-7729-4552-8B2A-1392B637D0DD?city=San+Diego&state=CA&country=US&spec=1&checkIn=07/19/2017&checkOut=07/24/2017&c=USD&l=eng&i=2&hhid=t2901 (https://www.hotels-for-everyone.com/destination/152D9A9D-7729-4552-8B2A-1392B637D0DD?city=San+Diego&state=CA&country=US&spec=1&checkIn=07/19/2017&checkOut=07/24/2017&c=USD&l=eng&i=2&hhid=t2901)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: vxcon on August 09, 2016, 04:50:58 PM
Looks like a good idea to book a hotel early on to be on the safe side..
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: wolfgirl1272 on August 09, 2016, 08:04:34 PM
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I saw that Days Inn and Suites Seaworld is currently listed as $80/night with free cancellation at hotels-for-everyone.com.

https://www.hotels-for-everyone.com/destination/152D9A9D-7729-4552-8B2A-1392B637D0DD?city=San+Diego&state=CA&country=US&spec=1&checkIn=07/19/2017&checkOut=07/24/2017&c=USD&l=eng&i=2&hhid=t2901 (https://www.hotels-for-everyone.com/destination/152D9A9D-7729-4552-8B2A-1392B637D0DD?city=San+Diego&state=CA&country=US&spec=1&checkIn=07/19/2017&checkOut=07/24/2017&c=USD&l=eng&i=2&hhid=t2901)
Was going to book this but when I got down to the bottom it did tell me that I would be charged immediately. Yes, I can cancel but I can't afford to tie up $500+ so soon after comic con, but thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on August 10, 2016, 06:55:29 AM
FYI--

An article about the Pendry Hotel's restaurant plans:

http://sandiego.eater.com/2016/8/4/12378494/beer-hall-all-day-cafe-more-planned-for-pendry-hotel-downtown

Looks like the Pendry website has been updated.  Booking is available through the end of June 2016.

https://www.pendryhotels.com/
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: FBS on October 01, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
A lot of the downtown hotels are showing as available through the Skyscanner app. Pricey but available. If you want to take the plunge :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on October 01, 2016, 07:21:59 PM
I saw that the Porta Vista in Little Italy has availability for only $9,999 per night on Booking.com.

Now I stayed at the Porta Vista one year during Comic-Con, and I can tell you that it's not even worth half that price, but they did have a free hotel shuttle at the time. ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: FBS on October 01, 2016, 11:44:13 PM
I've stayed there too. Nice hotel but as you say Steve, not worth that.
However I do think it is an error.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: highgiant on October 02, 2016, 12:15:18 PM
I just booked Quality Inn San Diego Downtown North as a back up for next year. Googlemaps says its a 30 minute walk to the convention centre. Seems just about doable. Free cancellation until next year so I can change my mind still if it turns out its not.

Any one stay there before? it's not under any of the reviews (that i could see any way).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on October 03, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
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I just booked Quality Inn San Diego Downtown North as a back up for next year. Googlemaps says its a 30 minute walk to the convention centre. Seems just about doable. Free cancellation until next year so I can change my mind still if it turns out its not.

Any one stay there before? it's not under any of the reviews (that i could see any way).

Maybe check out tripadvisor.com if there's no reviews here? I find the reviews there pretty good. Plus people upload their own photos of rooms so you can see reality rather than photoshoot photos.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Brenmc22 on November 02, 2016, 11:05:34 AM
A few options for downtown hotels on this site

http://www.otel.com/hotels/hilton_san_diego_bayfront_hotel.htm?processid=N7-90190521USPAIG0

http://www.otel.com/hotels/wyndham_san_diego_bayside_hotel.htm?processid=N7-90190521USN5TX0
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Devorah on November 02, 2016, 11:55:06 AM
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A few options for downtown hotels on this site

http://www.otel.com/hotels/hilton_san_diego_bayfront_hotel.htm?processid=N7-90190521USPAIG0

http://www.otel.com/hotels/wyndham_san_diego_bayside_hotel.htm?processid=N7-90190521USN5TX0

In case anyone is tempted to book these, I'm not saying don't, but do your due diligence first...
https://www.tripadvisor.com/SearchForums?q=Otel&scope=2&ff=12290&geo=1&returnTo=__2F__ShowTopic__2D__g1__2D__i12290__2D__k7277478__2D__Otel__5F__com__5F__review__5F__negative__5F__experience__5F__warning__2D__Bargain__5F__Travel__2E__html (https://www.tripadvisor.com/SearchForums?q=Otel&scope=2&ff=12290&geo=1&returnTo=__2F__ShowTopic__2D__g1__2D__i12290__2D__k7277478__2D__Otel__5F__com__5F__review__5F__negative__5F__experience__5F__warning__2D__Bargain__5F__Travel__2E__html)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Brenmc22 on November 02, 2016, 12:16:24 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Seemed to good to be true.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on November 02, 2016, 01:12:04 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. Seemed to good to be true.

It was good of you to post what you found. But after some members were burned by using 'less reliable' third party vendors, we've all gotten a lot more cautious. Still, it was worth investigating, so I am glad you pointed it out.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Brenmc22 on November 02, 2016, 01:29:08 PM
Thanks.
First time attending. Trying to get hotel accommodations out of the way. Is the only really legit way for booking hotels going to be rolling the dice with the lottery that SDCC sends out? Have there been problems before with these kind of third party sites?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on November 02, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
Oh, I've been meaning to tell you guys this, but Hard Rock rooms for that Sunday (7/23) of SDCC went up last week. Good if you hope to bookend your Hotel Sale reservation or just want a taste of the high life that last day.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on November 02, 2016, 02:20:46 PM
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Thanks.
First time attending. Trying to get hotel accommodations out of the way. Is the only really legit way for booking hotels going to be rolling the dice with the lottery that SDCC sends out? Have there been problems before with these kind of third party sites?

If you're on a budget, then submitting a request form for CCI and onPeak's hotel reservation lottery is your best bet for a decent room rate per night.

However, there are a few third-party options:

- Directly booking with the hotel itself.  The hotels will charge a very substantial room rate per night (we're talking $900 to $1,000 per night), but the room will be reserved and secured with the hotel for you.

- Looking into condo or AirBnB rentals for the week of Comic-Con.  You'll have to be vigilant with this option, as you need to do your research, contact the condo owner, and ask a lot of questions.  In some cases, if the owner knows that it's the week of Comic-Con, they'll inflate the rental prices, so you need to determine which price range is okay (and not okay) for your finances.

- Trying to book with Booking.com, Priceline, or some other hotel reservation company.  There were some forum members that had a lot of issues and bad experiences with Booking.com in the past.  They made a room reservation with them, but the company could not honor their reservations and the rooms were cancelled.  Long story short, they were refunded the full amount in the end, but it was a stressful time for those who were affected by this, especially if you thought your rooming arrangements were secured.  You'll have to be careful about this, as these companies may do the reservations but they do not have control over the hotel's actual room inventory.  In most cases, they won't send the actual reservation information to the hotel until it's closer to Comic-Con.


I do want to add that there is another option available to forum members of this community.  For CCI and onPeak lottery reservations, some people may end up getting an extra one or they want to swap rooms with another person at a different hotel location.  In this way, we help each other exchange or give away room reservations (again, these rooms are usually from the CCI and onPeak lottery).  It's not a guarantee, as it really depends on the availability of rooms offered by fellow forum members and it's up to the donor on how he or she decides who to give the reservation to, but at least it's a way for us to help each other out in some small way.

Hope that helps a bit.  ^__^d
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Brenmc22 on November 02, 2016, 02:54:47 PM
Thanks for the heads up.

Now the CCI and onPeak's hotel reservation lottery. Is there a good chance you'll get a room by entering it? Anyway to ballpark a percentage? I'm tempted to book third party or from a hotel, just to have something until the lottery. Especially most third party sites have a windows for cancelling. Can I rely on the lottery though? Don't want to get stuck losing a room that i booked online or paying triple what the lottery would have been.

When I search hotels like Hyatt downtown, SD and other establishments. I find most of them don't have rooms listed until the last Sunday. A few are only offering like suites for around $1,200 a night. Anyone know of a site that has guaranteed rooms and rate somewhere $300 - $400?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on November 02, 2016, 03:21:57 PM
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Can I rely on the lottery though?...Anyone know of a site that has guaranteed rooms and rate somewhere $300 - $400?

(https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweknowmemes.com%2Fgenerator%2Fuploads%2Fgenerated%2Fg1361041739860123871.jpg&hash=73b654e1e3830433e842d391ca3f2611b1ce773f)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on November 02, 2016, 03:24:01 PM
But for real, it sounds like the safest bet for you might be to do the Early Bird sale. Non-refundable, but the least amount of stress and most all options are on the free shuttle route. If you really want Downtown, then you have to risk the lottery or spend big $$.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Brenmc22 on November 02, 2016, 03:35:25 PM
"Early Bird sale" is this something through SDCC? Or I basically gotta just bite the bullet on these inflated rates for downtown or walking distance? When is the lottery usually?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on November 02, 2016, 05:12:53 PM
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"Early Bird sale" is this something through SDCC? Or I basically gotta just bite the bullet on these inflated rates for downtown or walking distance? When is the lottery usually?

Yes. If you are willing to stay in Mission Valley (or another out-of-downtown area) then the Early Bird Sale is the best way to get the cheapest rate. You get to select your room without all of the lottery fuss, and the hotels usually throw in some small perk (such as free parking or internet). This is offered by CCI through OnPeak (the hotel booking service they use) and is completely legit.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Brenmc22 on November 02, 2016, 05:41:46 PM
Thanks for the help.

When is the Early Bird Sale usually? in your exp is the lottery to much of a gamble?


Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on November 02, 2016, 06:42:34 PM
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Thanks for the help.

When is the Early Bird Sale usually? in your exp is the lottery to much of a gamble?

The lottery is very hit or miss. I always get nervous about it, such that I'll often pay a lot more to book out of block to avoid it. But then, I'm really picky about location. Others who aren't so particular will plunge in.

The Early Bird hotel sale usually happens shortly before or after open registration in the spring.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on November 02, 2016, 09:01:28 PM
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Thanks for the help.

When is the Early Bird Sale usually? in your exp is the lottery to much of a gamble?
Just a note-Early bird hotels are usually pay all up front and nonrefundable. So if you take one, you have to stick with it. They are usually hotels that are further out (Mission Valley). I believe the closest option is usually the Sheraton San Diego Hotel & Marina. It is still far, but according to some reviews, there are only a handful of hotels on the shuttle route that services it.

From last year's sale (which was posted March 3, 2016):
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All rooms must be paid for in advance and are non-transferable. THERE ARE NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on November 02, 2016, 10:20:51 PM
Very excellent points, [member=2264]RustyPonds[/member], [member=364]Angology[/member], and [member=314]Transmute Jun[/member]! 

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Just a note-Early bird hotels are usually pay all up front and nonrefundable. So if you take one, you have to stick with it. They are usually hotels that are further out (Mission Valley). I believe the closest option is usually the Sheraton San Diego Hotel & Marina. It is still far, but according to some reviews, there are only a handful of hotels on the shuttle route that services it.

From last year's sale (which was posted March 3, 2016):

Adding to Angology's post, here's the information for the Early Bird sale for Comic-Con 2016.  (We like to archive official CCI announcements for reference for cases like this.  ^__~)

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5944.0
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on November 03, 2016, 07:28:13 AM
I think Hotel Z *might* still have a few rooms available during SDCC but prices were a bit high.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on November 03, 2016, 07:58:22 AM
i booked a backup hotel last week using booking.com. i haven't used booking.com so im worried about my reservation, especially if i end up needing to use it. any advice with booking.com reservations?

Thanks
Roger
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on November 03, 2016, 04:18:09 PM
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i booked a backup hotel last week using booking.com. i haven't used booking.com so im worried about my reservation, especially if i end up needing to use it. any advice with booking.com reservations?

Thanks
Roger

Keep checking/badgering Booking.com until you get a hotel reservation number (NOT the booking.com reservation number). Once you have that, contact the hotel and ensure that they have your reservation on file. Rinse, repeat, every week.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on November 03, 2016, 06:23:17 PM
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Keep checking/badgering Booking.com until you get a hotel reservation number (NOT the booking.com reservation number). Once you have that, contact the hotel and ensure that they have your reservation on file. Rinse, repeat, every week.
ok thanks will do. it's so far away, i wouldnt think i would get a hotel reservation number for a while, correct?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on November 04, 2016, 07:35:56 AM
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ok thanks will do. it's so far away, i wouldnt think i would get a hotel reservation number for a while, correct?

That's what they will tell you. But until you have it, your booking is suspect.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on November 04, 2016, 08:15:27 AM
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That's what they will tell you. But until you have it, your booking is suspect.
again thanks, i will keep on it.

my booking.com hotel is just a backup in case i can't be my preferred hotel during the hotel apocalypse.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: darqamin on November 22, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
Is anyone aware of any other hotels not mentioned yet in downtown area that are taking reservations now?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: angi on January 02, 2017, 06:00:24 PM
Holiday Inn downtown has rates in the $300's for refundable rooms.  It's about 1 mile walk, 5 minute Uber (Uber had made me much less picky about location). 

Some of the other closer hotels have openings but they are starting at $600/night.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: QTkeylala on January 08, 2017, 10:16:13 PM
Hi FOCC, it's been a minute since I've posted.  [member=317]Zero[/member], if this post should go somewhere else, pls fwd it there.

For those of you that don't mind spending more just to make sure you have a room, I just noticed that Embassy Suites San Diego Downtown just opened up rooms ranging from $400-900/night, if you have AAA or AARP.  But if you are a government employee, as low as $201/night. BUT you have to book from July 18-23.  If you try and book July 19-23, it will say there are no rooms available.  So you must book from Tues-Sun.  What's nice is that you can cancel up to 72 hours before check in without penalty. 

Good luck!

Edited:  Go directly to Embassy Suites San Diego Website.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on January 09, 2017, 03:10:11 AM
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Hi FOCC, it's been a minute since I've posted.  [member=317]Zero[/member], if this post should go somewhere else, pls fwd it there.

For those of you that don't mind spending more just to make sure you have a room, I just noticed that Embassy Suites San Diego Downtown just opened up rooms ranging from $400-900/night, if you have AAA or AARP.  But if you are a government employee, as low as $201/night. BUT you have to book from July 18-23.  If you try and book July 19-23, it will say there are no rooms available.  So you must book from Tues-Sun.  What's nice is that you can cancel up to 72 hours before check in without penalty. 

Good luck!

Edited:  Go directly to Embassy Suites San Diego Website.

This is the correct place to post these and inform others of good hotel-related deals.  Thank you for sharing with your fellow forum members.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on January 09, 2017, 09:04:57 AM
That's a great find, QTkeylala! Thanks for sharing your info!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Kmd2103 on January 09, 2017, 09:32:47 AM
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Hi FOCC, it's been a minute since I've posted.  [member=317]Zero[/member], if this post should go somewhere else, pls fwd it there.

For those of you that don't mind spending more just to make sure you have a room, I just noticed that Embassy Suites San Diego Downtown just opened up rooms ranging from $400-900/night, if you have AAA or AARP.  But if you are a government employee, as low as $201/night. BUT you have to book from July 18-23.  If you try and book July 19-23, it will say there are no rooms available.  So you must book from Tues-Sun.  What's nice is that you can cancel up to 72 hours before check in without penalty. 

Good luck!

Edited:  Go directly to Embassy Suites San Diego Website.
Great tip!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on January 09, 2017, 09:59:34 AM
April 6 is the date for Hotelpocalypse.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AzT on January 09, 2017, 10:05:05 AM
Source: http://sdccblog.com/2017/01/san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2017-set-for-april-6/

We have confirmed with the Comic-Con hotel sale vendor, onPeak (who merged with Travel Planners), that the General Hotel Sale will take place on Thursday, April 6, 2017 - and while we couldn’t confirm a time, the sale historically happens at 9AM PT/12PM ET. There’s no official word from Comic-Con International, so it’s possible that the date could change (and it’s interesting to note that the sale is moving from a traditional Tuesday date to a Thursday one) — but as of now, onPeak is able to confirm the April 6 date for the San Diego Comic-Con General Hotel Sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Kmd2103 on January 09, 2017, 10:06:12 AM
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Hi FOCC, it's been a minute since I've posted.  [member=317]Zero[/member], if this post should go somewhere else, pls fwd it there.

For those of you that don't mind spending more just to make sure you have a room, I just noticed that Embassy Suites San Diego Downtown just opened up rooms ranging from $400-900/night, if you have AAA or AARP.  But if you are a government employee, as low as $201/night. BUT you have to book from July 18-23.  If you try and book July 19-23, it will say there are no rooms available.  So you must book from Tues-Sun.  What's nice is that you can cancel up to 72 hours before check in without penalty. 

Good luck!

Edited:  Go directly to Embassy Suites San Diego Website.
I went to the site and plugged in those dates and checked govt but couldn't get a rate lower than $450/night. What am I missing? TIA
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mlgagne on January 09, 2017, 10:08:01 AM
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Source: http://sdccblog.com/2017/01/san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2017-set-for-april-6/

We have confirmed with the Comic-Con hotel sale vendor, onPeak (who merged with Travel Planners), that the General Hotel Sale will take place on Thursday, April 6, 2017 - and while we couldn’t confirm a time, the sale historically happens at 9AM PT/12PM ET. There’s no official word from Comic-Con International, so it’s possible that the date could change (and it’s interesting to note that the sale is moving from a traditional Tuesday date to a Thursday one) — but as of now, onPeak is able to confirm the April 6 date for the San Diego Comic-Con General Hotel Sale.

Thanks for sharing! Interesting that they are moving it from Tuesday to Thursday. But hey - at least now, we know that those of us attending WonderCon will have a few days to recover  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: QTkeylala on January 09, 2017, 10:49:18 AM
Oh wow. I'm sorry.  They must have given out all those in that block already.  I swear when I did it, it was $201.  And when I checked it after I booked myself, but before posting on to FOCC, it still had $201 available.  $450 is not great but at least you have a room AND you can cancel it if you get a better room from Hotelmaggeon or Hotelpocalypse.

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I went to the site and plugged in those dates and checked govt but couldn't get a rate lower than $450/night. What am I missing? TIA
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Kmd2103 on January 09, 2017, 10:51:49 AM
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Oh wow. I'm sorry.  They must have given out all those in that block already.  I swear when I did it, it was $201.  And when I checked it after I booked myself, but before posting on to FOCC, it still had $201 available.  $450 is not great but at least you have a room AND you can cancel it if you get a better room from Hotelmaggeon or Hotelpocalypse.
Awesome you were able to snag one! Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: QTkeylala on January 09, 2017, 10:57:26 AM
thank you.  I stalk Embassy every year. And I will book whatever price with them since I know I can cancel later.  But I was floored when I saw $201 and kept thinking NO WAY.  So I had to share.  But I think unfortunately all the good government rates are gone. 

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That's a great find, QTkeylala! Thanks for sharing your info!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: wolfgirl1272 on January 09, 2017, 10:59:58 AM
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Great info, now I can plan accordingly.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on January 09, 2017, 11:43:40 AM
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April 6 is the date for Hotelpocalypse.

*Blocks out that morning on work calendar...*
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on January 09, 2017, 12:33:31 PM
Ugh, during my class. I'll try to figure something out, this is the year!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on January 09, 2017, 12:37:56 PM
I'm putting in for half the day off.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on January 09, 2017, 12:48:49 PM
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I'm putting in for half the day off.

Same here, except I think I'll only take an hour. Unless the process changes this year, it's all over in 5 minutes.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on January 09, 2017, 01:16:48 PM
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Same here, except I think I'll only take an hour. Unless the process changes this year, it's all over in 5 minutes.
I start work at 0800 so with the hotel lottery not starting till 10am it makes sense to start work at noon. That way, let the adrenaline level go back to normal  :) and eat lunch before going to work.  ^-^
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on January 09, 2017, 01:27:23 PM
[member=1527]dolphina[/member] That makes sense. I don't have to be in until 9 so I just do it and then immediately drive in. Nothing is going to calm my nerves at that point so I might as well be at work where I'm forced to think about something besides odds and timestamps and the inscrutable incompetence of onPeak.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on January 09, 2017, 09:55:36 PM
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Source: http://sdccblog.com/2017/01/san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2017-set-for-april-6/

We have confirmed with the Comic-Con hotel sale vendor, onPeak (who merged with Travel Planners), that the General Hotel Sale will take place on Thursday, April 6, 2017 - and while we couldn’t confirm a time, the sale historically happens at 9AM PT/12PM ET. There’s no official word from Comic-Con International, so it’s possible that the date could change (and it’s interesting to note that the sale is moving from a traditional Tuesday date to a Thursday one) — but as of now, onPeak is able to confirm the April 6 date for the San Diego Comic-Con General Hotel Sale.

My friend actually linked me this on facebook earlier. I'm probably going to request a half day, or just take it off so my anxious self can rest after the pure panic lol.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angel_ on January 10, 2017, 04:17:00 PM
Hopefully it'll be early enough in the day where it won't interfere with work.  It's usually 9am PST?  Which is 7am my time.  I may be late to work but won't have to take off too much time.  I'm hoping to get a solid time soon though so I can put in like an hour PTO request for that morning.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 10:31:13 AM
Do we know if its that same rules as last year?  I think I remember it being it didn't matter how fast you typed and submitted, but rather the time stamp that you were let into the buying system. This still confused me, because I'm sure several hundred or maybe even thousands were let in at the same time so if you submitted quicker did you get a better spot?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Kmd2103 on January 11, 2017, 11:11:16 AM
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Do we know if its that same rules as last year?  I think I remember it being it didn't matter how fast you typed and submitted, but rather the time stamp that you were let into the buying system. This still confused me, because I'm sure several hundred or maybe even thousands were let in at the same time so if you submitted quicker did you get a better spot?
I had thought that maybe they gave everyone a random number that then dictated the order requests were processed in. So they could let in large groups and each person fill in the form.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on January 11, 2017, 11:28:25 AM
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I think I remember it being it didn't matter how fast you typed and submitted, but rather the time stamp that you were let into the buying system. This still confused me, because I'm sure several hundred or maybe even thousands were let in at the same time so if you submitted quicker did you get a better spot?

There is discussion of this ad nauseam in last year's hotel sale thread. I think, based on our own compiled data (as opposed to any official data released by OnPeak) and parsing OnPeak's somewhat conflicting statements, we came to the conclusion, that yes, typing speed still seemed to matter? The order of assignments seemed to correspond to the form submission time as opposed to the form load time. But again, this is all (somewhat data-supported) theory.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on January 11, 2017, 11:44:10 AM
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There is discussion of this ad nauseam in last year's hotel sale thread. I think, based on our own compiled data (as opposed to any official data released by OnPeak) and parsing OnPeak's somewhat conflicting statements, we came to the conclusion, that yes, typing speed still seemed to matter? The order of assignments seemed to correspond to the form submission time as opposed to the form load time. But again, this is all (somewhat data-supported) theory.

I believe it was typing speed PLUS randomization.  IE two forms pulled at once, the first that got read was the one with the shorter time stamp.  But OnPeak didn't ever publicly release the data right? 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on January 11, 2017, 12:05:20 PM
[member=5598]NoOtherOptions![/member] Correct, OnPeak never released anything, as per usual with them.

And yes, that's what I was trying to say. "Form submission time" = "Form load time" + time it takes to fill out the form and hit submit.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angel_ on January 11, 2017, 12:10:20 PM
I'm glad we have a date, but I'd love answers to some of these questions we have so all of us hyper-planners can, like, obsess and freak out for a few months about every little detail.  Instead we will just have to obsess and freak out over speculation instead.  *sigh*
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on January 11, 2017, 12:14:14 PM
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I'm glad we have a date, but I'd love answers to some of these questions we have so all of us hyper-planners can, like, obsess and freak out for a few months about every little detail.  Instead we will just have to obsess and freak out over speculation instead.  *sigh*

I wound up with 2 hotels I really liked, but I don't really want to release my method in case things don't change.  Really I bet my "method" means nothing and I just got lucky. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 12:31:18 PM
Thank you for all of that information [member=5612]Kmd2103[/member] , [member=1291]semigeekgirl[/member] and [member=5598]NoOtherOptions![/member] It looks like i will need to practice my typing skills over the next few months  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on January 11, 2017, 12:36:39 PM
There was never any official description, at least none that I saw. We did collect enough data form the forum to have a pretty good idea of what the process was, and hopefully this year we can do the same.

I'll summarize, but here's the post from last year and there is a lot of discussion in the 2016 threads.

http://friendsofcc.com/2016/04/25/sdcc-2016-post-hotel-lottery-a-statistical-analysis/ (http://friendsofcc.com/2016/04/25/sdcc-2016-post-hotel-lottery-a-statistical-analysis/)

The most important factor in 2016 was when you were given access to the form, the time it took you to fill out the form did not appear to play as large as a role, if any (we can't be entirely positive.) We don't know to what extent requests that were given access to the form at the same time were further randomized. Your chances of getting one of your top-6 picks dropped quickly based on the time you got to the form, to basically nil after 3 minutes.

They were more aggressive about flagging duplicate requests compared to previous years.

There was no "put me in any downtown hotel if my top 6 are unavailable" option.

The "queue number" that you saw was not global, but rather your place in one of many distinct queues. This caused a lot of confusion.

Even if things work similarly this year, which is a pretty big assumption, I still think it's a good idea to fill out the form as quickly as you safely can. There is always the possibility that things are different this year or that it gets used as a tiebreaker. To put it another way, last year if person A got to the form in the first minute but submitted after person B who got in in the second minute but filled out the form really fast, person A still fared better. What we don't know is if person C and D got the the form at the same time, then did their submission times play a secondary role.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on January 11, 2017, 12:41:27 PM
[member=4270]mark[/member] thanks for the summary!  Just reading it, though, made my palms sweat.  I seriously doubt OnPeak will be giving any additional info this year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on January 11, 2017, 12:46:35 PM
looks like hotel registration date is incorrect

https://twitter.com/onPeak/status/819283246466920450

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Unfortunately an incorrect date has been posted online for #SDCC hotel registration. All official dates will be announced directly from CCI.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 12:50:36 PM
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looks like hotel registration date is incorrect

https://twitter.com/onPeak/status/819283246466920450

Oh no...maybe its back to Tuesday
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on January 11, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
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looks like hotel registration date is incorrect

https://twitter.com/onPeak/status/819283246466920450

Ugh. Given the usual level of communication between CCI and OnPeak, what do we think the odds are that this WAS the correct date and CCI just didn't specifically tell OnPeak not to release it... but has now decided that they should have told them to keep it a secret? And if that's the case, will they change it now?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AzT on January 11, 2017, 12:58:48 PM
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Ugh. Given the usual level of communication between CCI and OnPeak, what do we think the odds are that this WAS the correct date and CCI just didn't specifically tell OnPeak not to release it... but has now decided that they should have told them to keep it a secret? And if that's the case, will they change it now?

All of this. For some to date unexplained / secretly classified reason, CCI consistently refuses to get ahead of their own stories (looking at you CCI, in re: Ace Parking, WonderCon hotels, etc.) A truly infuriating #CommunicationFail pattern of which they are well aware and about which they don't take action to change / indicate they care. If this date is wrong, wow, how about releasing the correct one? Too easy?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on January 11, 2017, 01:01:11 PM
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Thank you for all of that information [member=5612]Kmd2103[/member] , [member=1291]semigeekgirl[/member] and [member=5598]NoOtherOptions![/member] It looks like i will need to practice my typing skills over the next few months  ;)

Honestly I wouldn't worry, I had friends fill out after me that got better hotels and one's before me that got nothing.  Just make sure you know where you want to stay.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 01:04:29 PM
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Honestly I wouldn't worry, I had friends fill out after me that got better hotels and one's before me that got nothing.  Just make sure you know where you want to stay.

Im making a list and checking it twice  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on January 11, 2017, 01:09:19 PM
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looks like hotel registration date is incorrect

https://twitter.com/onPeak/status/819283246466920450
Darn, I just submitted my request for that day off and now I have to wonder, is it really that date and CCI (for whatever reason) doesn't want the date released or is it really going to be a different date  ???
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: oneroomdisco on January 11, 2017, 01:33:47 PM
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looks like hotel registration date is incorrect

https://twitter.com/onPeak/status/819283246466920450
This is sort of disappointing, since official SDCC information is always nice, but also (assuming the date really is different) very helpful for me since I have class that I can't really skip during that time ;D).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on January 11, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
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Darn, I just submitted my request for that day off and now I have to wonder, is it really that date and CCI (for whatever reason) doesn't want the date released or is it really going to be a different date  ???
The dates this year are sort of stressing me out. I think it's just having returning reg be new and then, have it so close to the holidays and likely bumped up to open reg within a month. It just seems like a lot to process when we normally get an extra few months for the same string of events.  Hotel sale makes me nervous after last year.  It's just so out of our hands.  It's a lot of money to invest for a potentially random outcome.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on January 11, 2017, 01:36:45 PM
my guess is it's either correct but they're just being silly and want to officially announce it themselves or it's moved back to the Tuesday
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: BadWolf on January 11, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
I never understood why the dates are secret. The badges are going to sell out no matter what. So why the mystery? For press?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on January 11, 2017, 02:13:03 PM
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I never understood why the dates are secret. The badges are going to sell out no matter what. So why the mystery? For press?

I think it's just their antiquated way of communicating. And since they have a captive audience, they can just do their own thing. What, are we not going to attend/follow it obsessively?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angel_ on January 11, 2017, 02:44:10 PM
*throws hands up in air* WELP.  Ok then.  Guess that happened.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sisustylegirl on January 11, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
I'm starting to freak out about dates.  I just got airfare covered by my company and would love to solidify hotel and badges.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on January 11, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
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I'm starting to freak out about dates.  I just got airfare covered by my company and would love to solidify hotel and badges.

Wouldn't we all! Unfortunately, CCI likes to keep us hanging....  :'(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sisustylegirl on January 11, 2017, 03:31:04 PM
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Wouldn't we all! Unfortunately, CCI likes to keep us hanging....  :'(

I think I am just excited because my company is flying me to LA for work on the 17-19 and agreed to fly me home on a redeye Sunday out of San Diego.  My boss was totally cool about it and I am getting a free plane ride to SDCC!!!

Now if I can only convince them to cover my hotel room too.....
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NCDS on January 11, 2017, 03:34:34 PM
I always thought they kept it secret in case they have to move the date.    They know months in advance when sales will be. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
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There was never any official description, at least none that I saw. We did collect enough data form the forum to have a pretty good idea of what the process was, and hopefully this year we can do the same.

I'll summarize, but here's the post from last year and there is a lot of discussion in the 2016 threads.

http://friendsofcc.com/2016/04/25/sdcc-2016-post-hotel-lottery-a-statistical-analysis/ (http://friendsofcc.com/2016/04/25/sdcc-2016-post-hotel-lottery-a-statistical-analysis/)

The most important factor in 2016 was when you were given access to the form, the time it took you to fill out the form did not appear to play as large as a role, if any (we can't be entirely positive.) We don't know to what extent requests that were given access to the form at the same time were further randomized. Your chances of getting one of your top-6 picks dropped quickly based on the time you got to the form, to basically nil after 3 minutes.

They were more aggressive about flagging duplicate requests compared to previous years.

There was no "put me in any downtown hotel if my top 6 are unavailable" option.

The "queue number" that you saw was not global, but rather your place in one of many distinct queues. This caused a lot of confusion.

Even if things work similarly this year, which is a pretty big assumption, I still think it's a good idea to fill out the form as quickly as you safely can. There is always the possibility that things are different this year or that it gets used as a tiebreaker. To put it another way, last year if person A got to the form in the first minute but submitted after person B who got in in the second minute but filled out the form really fast, person A still fared better. What we don't know is if person C and D got the the form at the same time, then did their submission times play a secondary role.

Thank you for the summarization, it saved me having to go back and look at all of the entries from last year.  :)

What I remember and really hated about last years Hotelpocalypse was the fact that so many people didn't get ANY hotel while others were placed in the hotel circle area.  People started freaking out that so many people didn't have a room that they ended up purchasing the hotel stays with no changes or refunds. I know, because my cousin did this.  Then all of a sudden, OnPeak started releasing a crazy amount of hotels including downtown.  I saw Hard Rock, Omni, Marriott, Hilton, Manchester all become available.  I couldn't understand if they had so many of these hotel rooms left, why didn't they take the extra few days and sort threw their information and distribute accordingly before they forced this huge scare...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on January 11, 2017, 08:21:12 PM
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I couldn't understand if they had so many of these hotel rooms left, why didn't they take the extra few days and sort threw their information and distribute accordingly before they forced this huge scare...

It is possible that they didn't really have all those rooms left. If every group of 4 people have 4 people requesting rooms...then inventory will be taken quickly. But then inventory will free up within a few days when people let go of their reservations.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 08:29:13 PM
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It is possible that they didn't really have all those rooms left. If every group of 4 people have 4 people requesting rooms...then inventory will be taken quickly. But then inventory will free up within a few days when people let go of their reservations.

True, but i would think that that would be the same case as previous years.  I've never seen so many people on this forum or twitter waitlisted before or have that many rooms become available.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on January 11, 2017, 09:09:56 PM
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True, but i would think that that would be the same case as previous years.  I've never seen so many people on this forum or twitter waitlisted before or have that many rooms become available.
I think it's because it was random last year.  People on here and twitter are probably more likely to be Internet savvy and knew how to quickly submit their form.  I bet a lot of random folks don't even do it the first hour of the sale.  They probably submit whenever they get around to it and suffer through whatever hotel is tossed their way.  This past year, some of the close hotels undoubtedly went to that silent crowd who never share their picks on the net.  They took the spots of those who used to get to the sake early.  I don't really like that approach and I kinda wish they'd go back to early submitters get first choice. I doubt it will gappen, though, since everything seems to be going lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Blubutterfly505 on January 11, 2017, 10:21:10 PM
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I think it's because it was random last year.  People on here and twitter are probably more likely to be Internet savvy and knew how to quickly submit their form.  I bet a lot of random folks don't even do it the first hour of the sale.  They probably submit whenever they get around to it and suffer through whatever hotel is tossed their way.  This past year, some of the close hotels undoubtedly went to that silent crowd who never share their picks on the net.  They took the spots of those who used to get to the sake early.  I don't really like that approach and I kinda wish they'd go back to early submitters get first choice. I doubt it will gappen, though, since everything seems to be going lottery.

Ideally, I wish CCI would give a code to confirmed badge holders only that would allow them into the hotel buying process (even if their chances in line were determined by a lottery). 

I see your point about the silent crowd taking up some of the hotel rooms but it still doesn't explain the number of forum members that were "waitlisted".   I look to people on this forum as being people in the "know". I listen to their advice, I practice on the forms provided and I cross my fingers. I was shocked when so many of our forum members became waitlisted because if we couldn't navigate this system, then who could? And yes, I understand it was the first year as a lottery system, but i think OnPeak still screwed up the processing on their end.

My cousin, who's been attending the con since 2000 and has participated in numerous hotel sales freaked when he became waitlisted (it had never happened to him before) and he felt pressureed to purchase one of those no refunds/changes rooms.  He had already purchased his badges and his airfare.  He figured it was best to have a room then wait for one to become available.   I'm not sure if a lot if people felt the same way as he did, but i became upset for him when so many hotel rooms became available, especially the downtown ones.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on January 12, 2017, 12:37:20 AM
As a quick side note and announcement, the forum's SDCC 2017 Room Sharing Thread is open, as promised last week.

Please refer to the first post of the thread linked below for roommate request guidelines and details. 

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7555.0

Please also keep the room sharing thread in mind when you're in need of a few roommates on your road toward Comic-Con 2017.  Don't forget that you can edit your post in that thread to reflect current information or updates for your hotel situation (for example, when you're confirmed for a hotel reservation).

Thank you!


Now back to your regularly scheduled hotel discussion programming.  :]
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: omraged9 on January 12, 2017, 01:56:57 AM
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I never understood why the dates are secret. The badges are going to sell out no matter what. So why the mystery? For press?

Maybe they genuinely don't know? Is it possible they're still doing tests on the scripts to make sure returning reg runs smoothly this year?

Same with hotel sale. They have to deal with many hotels and negotiate with each one on the room price, etc. Maybe they're not done negotiating yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on January 12, 2017, 05:03:32 AM
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Maybe they genuinely don't know? Is it possible they're still doing tests on the scripts to make sure returning reg runs smoothly this year?

Same with hotel sale. They have to deal with many hotels and negotiate with each one on the room price, etc. Maybe they're not done negotiating yet.
That might be true but OnPeak does hotel rooms for ReedPop and I had my hotel room for C2E2 for over a month. It is in late April!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AzT on January 12, 2017, 11:13:15 AM
Getting popcorn ready for when/if CCI ultimately confirms the "leaked" date with a "we just wanted the scoop."
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on January 12, 2017, 11:27:56 AM
i think we should consider the possibility that CCI has asked OnPeak to make some changes to their system.  I'm going out on a limb here but...given what happened last year  *and* the current delay in putting WC hotels up for sale, there could be a tech redesign of the OnPeak system-
Maybe a new threshold we need to cross or a verification, i don't know
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AzT on January 12, 2017, 11:34:16 AM
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i think we should consider the possibility that CCI has asked OnPeak to make some changes to their system.  I'm going out on a limb here but...given what happened last year  *and* the current delay in putting WC hotels up for sale, there could be a tech redesign of the OnPeak system-
Maybe a new threshold we need to cross or a verification, i don't know

Highly likely.

And no harm done in saying so -- if in their opinion SDCC Blog got it wrong, then CCI can get ahead of the next wrong "leaked" story now by publicizing accurate information... about their own brand and a huge part of their attendees' experience.

(Gaffes like this bring Leapfrog flashbacks.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on January 12, 2017, 11:42:43 AM
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And no harm done in saying so -- if in their opinion SDCC Blog got it wrong, then CCI can get ahead of the next wrong "leaked" story now by publicizing accurate information... about their own brand and a huge part of their attendees' experience.

(Gaffes like this bring Leapfrog flashbacks.)

i'm not getting anywhere near the quagmire of "when" the event will happen
/slowly backs away/
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on January 12, 2017, 06:32:47 PM
I really hope they're trying to implement some sort of badge verification process. It's always a tad upsetting to see people on twitter etc. who haven't gotten badges get hotel rooms :/

Edit:

I had a minor freak-out because I couldn't find my Hotel Z King Suite back-up confirmation e-mail. I e-mailed them and they quickly e-mailed me back a confirmation that they still had the reservation and a PDF confirmation.

The reason I bring this up is during my panic I checked their direct site for any reservations in case, they still have King and Queen rooms available to be reserved directly at two price points for each, the lower price-point in nonrefundable and non-cancellable but the higher rate is both (up to 24 hours prior to your stay.) It's still fairly expensive and the rooms only have 1 queen or king bed as the suites are all gone, but as a back-up it might still be a decent option and if you're staying longer, the days outside of con days are much less expensive and could help even things out a bit.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on January 12, 2017, 08:25:09 PM
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I really hope they're trying to implement some sort of badge verification process. It's always a tad upsetting to see people on twitter etc. who haven't gotten badges get hotel rooms :/

I think by now, we know SDCC isn't just the convention anymore. It's the entire area. But even if we just consider it the convention and only the convention, I still will NEVER be for a badge verification process. I've said this before, and will say it again, not everyone will have their badges by then. I know some have thrown out the idea of a block of hotel rooms saved for volunteers, staff, and the like. That would never work either, since nobody knows how many rooms of which hotels to block off. Then you're making it tougher for volunteers, staff, maybe others from gaining fully access to the lottery. Which is not right.

Until the best solution comes out, allowing everyone access to the lottery is the best system.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on January 13, 2017, 07:05:45 AM
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I really hope they're trying to implement some sort of badge verification process. It's always a tad upsetting to see people on twitter etc. who haven't gotten badges get hotel rooms :/

Edit:

I had a minor freak-out because I couldn't find my Hotel Z King Suite back-up confirmation e-mail. I e-mailed them and they quickly e-mailed me back a confirmation that they still had the reservation and a PDF confirmation.

The reason I bring this up is during my panic I checked their direct site for any reservations in case, they still have King and Queen rooms available to be reserved directly at two price points for each, the lower price-point in nonrefundable and non-cancellable but the higher rate is both (up to 24 hours prior to your stay.) It's still fairly expensive and the rooms only have 1 queen or king bed as the suites are all gone, but as a back-up it might still be a decent option and if you're staying longer, the days outside of con days are much less expensive and could help even things out a bit.

Look like only the 408 a night rate is available now.  What was the lower rate?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lawboysam on January 13, 2017, 05:21:13 PM
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Highly likely.

And no harm done in saying so -- if in their opinion SDCC Blog got it wrong, then CCI can get ahead of the next wrong "leaked" story now by publicizing accurate information... about their own brand and a huge part of their attendees' experience.

(Gaffes like this bring Leapfrog flashbacks.)

Just as a little backstory - that April 6th date was the date that was in onPeak's system, 100%. I confirmed with multiple people (and some of the same people who have gotten it right the last 3 years). So either it was in their system wrong (which, this is onPeak, let's face it, that's a very real possibility) - or CCI decided to change it.

Also, it's worth noting that the vendor hotel sale did change this year. They had to select 3 hotels downtown, and 3 hotels in mid-town, and three in MV, and then rank their teir by most desired. Could we see changes like that for the general sale? Time will tell.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on January 13, 2017, 05:40:26 PM
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Just as a little backstory - that April 6th date was the date that was in onPeak's system, 100%. I confirmed with multiple people (and some of the same people who have gotten it right the last 3 years). So either it was in their system wrong (which, this is onPeak, let's face it, that's a very real possibility) - or CCI decided to change it.

Also, it's worth noting that the vendor hotel sale did change this year. They had to select 3 hotels downtown, and 3 hotels in mid-town, and three in MV, and then rank their teir by most desired. Could we see changes like that for the general sale? Time will tell.

As always, thanks for the info, [member=550]lawboysam[/member]! Any little bit helps. Considering your accuracy in the past, I have no doubt it was April 6th in the system. Fat finger, or a myriad of other reasons could be for the change. Heck, SDCC could be changing it to spite us all, because the date got leaked. Who knows. (I don't really believe that mind you, just throwing it out there)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on January 20, 2017, 07:28:24 AM
I just noticed that the Embassy Suites has rooms listed for $319 non-refundable and $349 free cancellation for stays from Tues 7/18 to Mon 7/24.  Prices also include breakfast.

Saw this on the Hotels.com site.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on January 20, 2017, 08:05:51 AM
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I just noticed that the Embassy Suites has rooms listed for $319 non-refundable and $349 free cancellation for stays from Tues 7/18 to Mon 7/24.  Prices also include breakfast.

Saw this on the Hotels.com site.

Thanks for posting! Can confirm the same deal from the hotel website too. There are also AAA discounts if you have that. One odd thing is that the price actually drops a lot starting 7/20.

I did not receive an email confirming a reservation, but I did receive one confirming an upgrade request. Which is about par for the course, the SDCC hotel experience for me has now officially begun :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on January 20, 2017, 08:09:58 AM
That's a great price! Thanks for sharing that one, SteveD!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on January 20, 2017, 08:18:02 AM
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Thanks for posting! Can confirm the same deal from the hotel website too. There are also AAA discounts if you have that. One odd thing is that the price actually drops a lot starting 7/20.

I did not receive an email confirming a reservation, but I did receive one confirming an upgrade request. Which is about par for the course, the SDCC hotel experience for me has now officially begun :)

How much is the AAA discount? I might book this with my bonus money. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on January 20, 2017, 08:25:07 AM
Dates are gone now, oh well. Money stays in pocket.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on January 20, 2017, 08:28:21 AM
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Dates are gone now, oh well. Money stays in pocket.

Drat. AAA dropped it down to about $314 for a cancellable reservation, not including taxes.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on January 20, 2017, 08:35:01 AM
That was fast, was going to book as my back-up. That will teach me to do my job first. LOL
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on January 20, 2017, 08:42:50 AM
Some words of inspiration for the next 6 months.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on January 20, 2017, 08:47:03 AM
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Dates are gone now, oh well. Money stays in pocket.
Well that was short-lived.  I didn't check the AAA discount, probably would have booked myself at that price.  Hope some people got a room before they disappeared.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Devorah on January 20, 2017, 09:35:35 AM
Not a deal for Comic Con exactly, but Hilton Bayfront currently has the surrounding days available for lower than OnPeak prices. I needed Monday to Wednesday, but had to do two separate one night reservations to get the low price. 2 night combined reservation was $350-ish/night.

Nightly rates:
Mon-Tues 7/17-7/18 $231.83
Tues-Wed 7/18-7/19 $216.31
Sun-Mon 7/23-7/24 $216.31
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Citizenvain on January 20, 2017, 05:31:54 PM
Do I need a badge to participate in the Hotel Lottery? Or, do I just need a Member ID?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: karl clement on January 20, 2017, 05:47:59 PM
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Not a deal for Comic Con exactly, but Hilton Bayfront currently has the surrounding days available for lower than OnPeak prices. I needed Monday to Wednesday, but had to do two separate one night reservations to get the low price. 2 night combined reservation was $350-ish/night.

Nightly rates:
Mon-Tues 7/17-7/18 $231.83
Tues-Wed 7/18-7/19 $216.31
Sun-Mon 7/23-7/24 $216.31

there have been afew deals on the baytfront,  in sept  i got it foir $ 189 a night all dates , I stays there last year nice  hutel
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on January 20, 2017, 05:51:28 PM
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Do I need a badge to participate in the Hotel Lottery? Or, do I just need a Member ID?

Right now, we don't know for sure if CCI and onPeak will continue to have the same process for the hotel lottery like in previous years. 

In the past, you weren't required to have a badge or a Member ID to participate in the lottery and submit the hotel request form.  It may or may not be how they plan on doing it for Comic-Con 2017.  At the moment, it's too soon to tell, but they may make announcements about it after returning registration.

To get an idea of what the hotel lottery process was like for Comic-Con 2016, please check out our blog article on it:

http://friendsofcc.com/2016/03/28/san-diego-comic-con-2016-hotel-request-form-guide

Hope that helps a bit!  ^__^d
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Citizenvain on January 20, 2017, 06:53:00 PM
Thank you, Zero!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cciveg on February 01, 2017, 03:50:52 PM
Hilton hotels are currently going for around $300 a night in mission valley for comic con!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on March 01, 2017, 09:07:40 AM
I was just wondering...do we know of any hotels that are currently independent of the sale...maybe one that's farther away from the convention center, that might be willing to sponsor their own shuttle to-and-from the con? While that totally bucks the current system, and they may not be able to get their shuttle even close to the center, it might be worth while for a hotel that's already not participating in the sale.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Devorah on March 01, 2017, 09:59:52 AM
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I was just wondering...do we know of any hotels that are currently independent of the sale...maybe one that's farther away from the convention center, that might be willing to sponsor their own shuttle to-and-from the con? While that totally bucks the current system, and they may not be able to get their shuttle even close to the center, it might be worth while for a hotel that's already not participating in the sale.

Interesting idea. I'm not sure of any, but Mission Valley hotels that are involved in the CCI sale may have rooms available outside the Comic Con block. Even hotels not in the CC block at all may be within walking distance of a shuttle stop. If you look at the shuttle route from last year you can see which hotels might be close. Here's a link: http://www.comic-con.org/sites/default/files/forms/cci2016_hotellist_v1.pdf (http://www.comic-con.org/sites/default/files/forms/cci2016_hotellist_v1.pdf)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 01, 2017, 10:07:51 AM
I believe there is a Motel 6 on the other side of downtown that is close-ish to the convention center and is not in block. Since it's all on its own, it's not on a standard shuttle route.

Although that part of town is a little 'scarier' than the Gaslamp.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on March 01, 2017, 01:11:57 PM
We ended up staying at the Dana one year, which is part of the hotel sale but not on the shuttle route, and they did have a morning shuttle. This was a while back so I don't recall for certain but I had the impression that it was a special set up since enough people had asked. It wouldn't have worked for people that wanted to be there early and we had to use public transit to get back in the evening.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mrha7 on March 07, 2017, 02:06:53 PM
Could we AAA discounts for hotels apocalypse? I never tried before. I'm gonna have to try this year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 07, 2017, 02:11:49 PM
There are no AAA discounts if you book through the official hotel block. They already negotiated the cheapest rate. But if you book direct with a hotel, you might find a AAA rate.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SandamnWs7 on March 11, 2017, 10:21:50 AM
Theres a hotel in DT that my brother and I always book as backup. Going o have my brother look it up again and see if its available.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on March 11, 2017, 12:51:47 PM
Any word on when the hotels will go on sale?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on March 11, 2017, 12:53:17 PM
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Any word on when the hotels will go on sale?


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April 6th this year!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on March 11, 2017, 01:00:11 PM
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April 6th this year!

Would they really do it before open registration takes place?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 11, 2017, 01:03:57 PM
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Would they really do it before open registration takes place?

No.

The April 6th date was published by SDCC Blog some time ago and then CCI came out and publicly stated that the date was wrong. It wi likely to be a couple of weeks after open registration takes place, but we have no word on an exact date yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on March 11, 2017, 02:42:34 PM
Ohh boy, one sale down....more badge sales to go...and then we've got this year's hotel sale looming...who knows how it will go this year...

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on March 11, 2017, 02:50:59 PM
With the hotel lotto is it just the first night you pay for and the rest at check in?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: oneroomdisco on March 11, 2017, 03:00:41 PM
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With the hotel lotto is it just the first night you pay for and the rest at check in?
In the past, I believe it has usually been a two night deposit and the second half charged anywhere from a couple weeks before the con to after your stay has completed. (It seems to vary by hotel).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on March 11, 2017, 03:10:17 PM
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In the past, I believe it has usually been a two night deposit and the second half charged anywhere from a couple weeks before the con to after your stay has completed. (It seems to vary by hotel).

thanks, I done the early bird sale last year, figured I'd join in the madness this time  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 11, 2017, 04:46:32 PM
So they still need to do Open Reg (Early to Mid-April) and then Early Bird...

How long is the Early bird up? Doesn't it usually close the day before the Hotel Sale?

I am thinking late April to Early May is what we might get...ugh the stress!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 11, 2017, 05:02:52 PM
Did it occur to anyone that time is so tight this year they may not do Early Bird at all?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on March 11, 2017, 05:58:02 PM
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Did it occur to anyone that time is so tight this year they may not do Early Bird at all?

Valid point indeed. I suppose we shall see! Perhaps it will just be an extremely abbreviated time frame compared to usual.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: susanml10881 on March 11, 2017, 06:07:43 PM
Early bird gives a boost to Mission Valley hotels though and somewhat dilutes competition for Downtown? I don't think it'd be that hard to do. Doesn't an outside firm handle it? Though they'd probably have to put it up soon, maybe after Wondercon?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 11, 2017, 07:35:15 PM
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Valid point indeed. I suppose we shall see! Perhaps it will just be an extremely abbreviated time frame compared to usual.

Or, as SDCC Blog pointed out on twitter, maybe they will just have it before Open Reg?

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on March 11, 2017, 07:45:13 PM
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Or, as SDCC Blog pointed out on twitter, maybe they will just have it before Open Reg?

I'm actually of the sentiment that the Early Bird hotel sale would still be open during that time, since they don't normally close it down until the date of the hotel lottery... unless they decide to change it up this year and have the hotel lottery before general ("open") registration. 

Historically, general registration is completed long before the hotel lottery date, but this year has been a year of a few "firsts" so far when it comes to badges.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mel on March 13, 2017, 01:55:17 PM
Once Early Bird goes up, you kinda know when the lottery  will be because Early Bird will state when it closes and that's usually been the day before the lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 13, 2017, 02:04:45 PM
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Once Early Bird goes up, you kinda know when the lottery  will be because Early Bird will state when it closes and that's usually been the day before the lottery.

Very true!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dartz13 on March 13, 2017, 06:07:09 PM
I think Early Bird took place early April anyway?  So maybe they will still be on schedule?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 13, 2017, 06:39:38 PM
I looked it up and last year early bird was from 3/3 to 4/5.

I don't know how they could make it a month long this year with how late everything is.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on March 13, 2017, 07:07:09 PM
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I looked it up and last year early bird was from 3/3 to 4/5.

I don't know how they could make it a month long this year with how late everything is.

It's possible that they may cut the Early Bird hotel sale short this year...  Who knows.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: perc2100 on March 13, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
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Or, as SDCC Blog pointed out on twitter, maybe they will just have it before Open Reg?

What's the consensus on that: would that be awful to drop a grand or so on hotel room and not get a badge?  Is the refund pretty painless for hotels if you don't get the badge(s) you need?

 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 13, 2017, 08:04:49 PM
A random thing I just thought about...

Did anyone who put a duplicate name as an occupant get their request kicked out? Example - If I submit my request and have

Occupant 1: Angie Lastname
Occupant 2: Betty Spaghetti

and my friend submits a request that says

Occupant 1: Betty Spaghetti
Occupant 2: Angie Lastname

do you think it will get kicked back? Or are they ONLY looking at who submitted the form?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 13, 2017, 08:53:04 PM
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Or, as SDCC Blog pointed out on twitter, maybe they will just have it before Open Reg?

I would be shocked and surprised if they did that
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on March 13, 2017, 09:26:17 PM
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A random thing I just thought about...

Did anyone who put a duplicate name as an occupant get their request kicked out? Example - If I submit my request and have

Occupant 1: Angie Lastname
Occupant 2: Betty Spaghetti

and my friend submits a request that says

Occupant 1: Betty Spaghetti
Occupant 2: Angie Lastname

do you think it will get kicked back? Or are they ONLY looking at who submitted the form?

I don't think there has ever been a definitive answer to that, but it did seem like there were more rejected submissions of that type in 2016 than there had been in previous years, with the earlier request rejected and the later one retained.  It's anecdotal and didn't seem to effect everyone, but it did seem like they looked at the names overall.

At the risk of understatement, when they release details about the hotel lottery I expect we will rigorously inspect every syllable.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 13, 2017, 09:33:50 PM
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A random thing I just thought about...

Did anyone who put a duplicate name as an occupant get their request kicked out? Example - If I submit my request and have

Occupant 1: Angie Lastname
Occupant 2: Betty Spaghetti

and my friend submits a request that says

Occupant 1: Betty Spaghetti
Occupant 2: Angie Lastname

do you think it will get kicked back? Or are they ONLY looking at who submitted the form?

It was definitely a question last year. Lots of people seemed to get booted for "duplicate" submissions and we weren't totally sure what the criteria was. Personally, I never risk it... my husband and I each submit a request, and on mine I use my last name for both of us, and on his he uses his. (We don't actually share a surname IRL.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: frgx on March 13, 2017, 10:02:50 PM
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What's the consensus on that: would that be awful to drop a grand or so on hotel room and not get a badge?  Is the refund pretty painless for hotels if you don't get the badge(s) you need?
I think the Early Bird reservations are non-refundable. So that would be a big risk if you didn't have a badge yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 14, 2017, 06:04:35 AM
There are anecdotal stories of people with the same names on the reservation being kicked out as duplicates. Not worth the risk, IMHO.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 14, 2017, 08:23:10 AM
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There are anecdotal stories of people with the same names on the reservation being kicked out as duplicates. Not worth the risk, IMHO.

So how would you guys suggest I fill in the occupant tabs? My problem is I am arriving a day earlier than my group of 3, so I need to be on the reservation in some way so I can check in first.

I wouldn't be duplicating the "Reservation Information", just the occupants.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 14, 2017, 08:39:07 AM
Fill it out however you want (obviously with the correct name of whoever is the "primary" on the reservation). Then, once you've actually made and confirmed the reservation, change the occupants to the correct names. No one is checking for duplicates anymore once the deposit is paid.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on March 14, 2017, 10:15:08 AM
last year was the 1st year doing the Hotelocalypse, in which we got a room at the MMM. Hopefully this year we get lucky again and get the HBF this time.

im starting to get a little nervous because i know i was totally lucky last year and got the MMM. i would take the MMM again this year too, but i wanted to try the HBF, so i can compare the 2.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on March 14, 2017, 05:21:50 PM
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last year was the 1st year doing the Hotelocalypse, in which we got a room at the MMM. Hopefully this year we get lucky again and get the HBF this time.

im starting to get a little nervous because i know i was totally lucky last year and got the MMM. i would take the MMM again this year too, but i wanted to try the HBF, so i can compare the 2.

If you are going early and don't mind the hassle of having to change hotels, one option is to do a separate booking up through Preview Night or maybe even Thursday.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SandamnWs7 on March 14, 2017, 05:26:10 PM
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A random thing I just thought about...

Did anyone who put a duplicate name as an occupant get their request kicked out? Example - If I submit my request and have

Occupant 1: Angie Lastname
Occupant 2: Betty Spaghetti

and my friend submits a request that says

Occupant 1: Betty Spaghetti
Occupant 2: Angie Lastname

do you think it will get kicked back? Or are they ONLY looking at who submitted the form?

I believe someone in a FB forum once said that if you used the same address, that was what got you booted from getting a hotel.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 14, 2017, 05:44:28 PM
My husband and I have used the same address on both our requests for years and have never been flagged.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: IfIWereMagneto on March 14, 2017, 10:25:49 PM
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So how would you guys suggest I fill in the occupant tabs? My problem is I am arriving a day earlier than my group of 3, so I need to be on the reservation in some way so I can check in first.

I wouldn't be duplicating the "Reservation Information", just the occupants.

Angie, you can always just call the hotel and add your name as an accompanying guest. They normally input the reservations closer to the con so if you don't want to change the names on the initial reservation, you can just wait till about 1.5 weeks before and call to put your name on it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NoOtherOptions! on March 15, 2017, 01:29:52 PM
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A random thing I just thought about...

Did anyone who put a duplicate name as an occupant get their request kicked out? Example - If I submit my request and have

Occupant 1: Angie Lastname
Occupant 2: Betty Spaghetti

and my friend submits a request that says

Occupant 1: Betty Spaghetti
Occupant 2: Angie Lastname

do you think it will get kicked back? Or are they ONLY looking at who submitted the form?

They have only vaguely answered this.  that said you can switch names up to and after your reservation is placed so there's zero reason to re-use names.  Literally you could put "George Washington" and change it later. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 15, 2017, 03:49:38 PM
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They have only vaguely answered this.  that said you can switch names up to and after your reservation is placed so there's zero reason to re-use names.  Literally you could put "George Washington" and change it later.

Maybe it's just me, but I've never used a fake name for my hotel lottery. I've always been honest. Used my real name, and entered on only one computer/browser.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 15, 2017, 03:57:22 PM
I don't consider it dishonest to enter once for each person with a badge. If they ever switched to a lottery-style allocation, my husband and I would each be eligible for one entry, as we are each paid badgeholders.

I don't advocate entering many times with fake names, that does seem unethical. But as far as I'm concerned, each person with a valid badge of any type should have one "entry" into the hotel allocation. OnPeak's current method of screening for duplicates lessens the chances of anyone who plans to share a room, so we work around it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on March 15, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but I've never used a fake name for my hotel lottery. I've always been honest. Used my real name, and entered on only one computer/browser.
last year was my 1st time doing the hotel sale, and i did the same thing, used all my families real names and only i entered one time. and amazingly got my 1st choice MMM.

This year i really want to stay at the BFH, so i am getting some friends and family to submit a request as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 15, 2017, 07:21:40 PM
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I don't consider it dishonest to enter once for each person with a badge. If they ever switched to a lottery-style allocation, my husband and I would each be eligible for one entry, as we are each paid badgeholders.

I don't advocate entering many times with fake names, that does seem unethical. But as far as I'm concerned, each person with a valid badge of any type should have one "entry" into the hotel allocation. OnPeak's current method of screening for duplicates lessens the chances of anyone who plans to share a room, so we work around it.

Oh I wasn't referring to you or anyone using real names. I was commenting on anyone who would enter a fake name or just be unethical about the entry into the lottery. And agreed, my lady friend and I had to work around it as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sisustylegirl on March 15, 2017, 07:32:12 PM
I just want to know when hotel sales will be!  I have my badge.  I have my flight.  Now where am I going to stay???????
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NyeAngel on March 15, 2017, 08:20:17 PM
Last year, Hotelpocalyspe scared me because I got in and submitted my form at 12:01 and got my 6th choice! It was crazy. I sure hope they do like returning registration and provide unique codes for Hotel Day.  ???
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: justboogie on March 16, 2017, 11:08:56 AM
I think the hotel system last year was terrible and it's still going to be terrible. I remember something about a double random lottery-lottery...basically you were more likely to win the lotto twice over while getting struck by lightning swimming in the ocean with mermaids before ever being able to book a room. Not looking forward to Hotelpocalypse, which is why I've booked a few back up hotels ahead of time at exorbitant prices. The sooner I know if I'm able to get a room, the sooner I can cancel my back up hotels.  :-[
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 16, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
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I think the hotel system last year was terrible and it's still going to be terrible. I remember something about a double random lottery-lottery...basically you were more likely to win the lotto twice over while getting struck by lightning swimming in the ocean with mermaids before ever being able to book a room. Not looking forward to Hotelpocalypse, which is why I've booked a few back up hotels ahead of time at exorbitant prices. The sooner I know if I'm able to get a room, the sooner I can cancel my back up hotels.  :-[

I'm still not clear on if your time stamp was from when you submitted, or when you were randomly chosen to enter.

And then there was the people who were "waitlisted" but then given a choice of booking hotels...that was really strange. Its like, why have the option of being waitlisted for an a hotel option if you are just going to open up all available rooms?

But I guess as long as it doesn't go down like the year where the drop down menu didn't work... :'(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 16, 2017, 12:20:21 PM
They have never had a clean hotel lottery, and it wasn't helped last year by the last minute discussion of the 'double lottery'. Hopefully this year they will have worked out those kinks.. but my hopes aren't very high on that, given my past experience.  :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on March 16, 2017, 12:50:01 PM
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They have never had a clean hotel lottery, and it wasn't helped last year by the last minute discussion of the 'double lottery'. Hopefully this year they will have worked out those kinks.. but my hopes aren't very high on that, given my past experience.  :(

Exactly.  I think the final verdict was it was the time you were randomly chosen to enter that determined the order that rooms were allotted.  That was the case for my group, anyway.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 16, 2017, 01:03:20 PM
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Exactly.  I think the final verdict was it was the time you were randomly chosen to enter that determined the order that rooms were allotted.  That was the case for my group, anyway.

Yes, after all the statistical analysis we could muster, we were mostly sure that was the case. Ah, how I hate the Hotel process.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 16, 2017, 02:01:07 PM
I always thought the previous system of filling out the form the fastest was the best hotel lottery system.  Yes it had kinks too, but as long as you could get the form to load properly, it was never a problem. Lots of people complained, and I just think it made the system worse. The more they tried to "even out" the system, the more catastrophic it has become.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 16, 2017, 02:19:25 PM
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I always thought the previous system of filling out the form the fastest was the best hotel lottery system. 

Well, it was definitely a system, but it wasn't one I'd endorse. Spend months waiting for a single moment, hope that you'll refresh at exactly the right second and that your internet speed is both reliable and faster than thousands of others, then take the equivalent of a complicated, high-speed typing test and hit the "submit" button as fast as humanly possible... followed by spending 48-72 hours hoping against hope that you both submitted fast enough and typed all of your information correctly (because some years they sent you a recap of your submission and some years they didn't bother).

I'm not sure the new system they tried out last year is 100% fair, but almost ANYTHING has to be fairer than a system that came down entirely to typing proficiency, your ability to navigate weird dropdown menus, and your internet connection.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 16, 2017, 02:51:58 PM
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I'm not sure the new system they tried out last year is 100% fair, but almost ANYTHING has to be fairer than a system that came down entirely to typing proficiency, your ability to navigate weird dropdown menus, and your internet connection.

Well the typing proficiency wasn't an issue. I'm pretty positive you could have made multiple mistakes as long as the hotel picks and email address were correct, you would still get a hotel.

I preferred the previous system because there were less variables/moving parts. Having a waiting room to randomly get you to the form is one extra thing to go wrong. I want to have as little to go wrong as possible.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RighteousRita on March 16, 2017, 03:04:15 PM
Received an email from the new hotel Pendry. But the blocked the dates for the con.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lilredrubi74 on March 16, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
Does anyone remember, do you stayed on the waitlist if you give up the hotel that they choose for you? Last year we didn't even make it on to the waitlist, but got the Sofia when it popped up later. I couldn't remember if you  give away the hotel your assigned at first, do you loose your spot if you release, or do you stay on the waitlist.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 17, 2017, 01:03:37 AM
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Does anyone remember, do you stayed on the waitlist if you give up the hotel that they choose for you? Last year we didn't even make it on to the waitlist, but got the Sofia when it popped up later. I couldn't remember if you  give away the hotel your assigned at first, do you loose your spot if you release, or do you stay on the waitlist.

From the Waitlist email last year -

Important things to know:
 
Deposits: You will need to provide a deposit equal to two nights' room rate plus tax for each reservation at the time of booking. If applicable, refunds for canceled rooms may take up to 10 days to show a credit on your account. Please make sure you have enough funds on your credit card or in your bank account for the multiple deposits before you begin, or use an alternate form of payment.

If you do book a new room during the waitlist process, you will need to cancel your previous reservation that same day. You will need to have the following Information available in order to cancel your old reservation:
onPeak ID numbers from your original and new confirmation emails
The email address(es) associated with those reservations
A phone number where we can reach you if necessary




Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on March 17, 2017, 08:14:13 AM
Last year we did not book the hotel they gave us in the sale, but they did keep us on the waitlist. Here is the sequence of notifications:

Action Required - Complete Your Hotel Request by Adding Credit Card Details

"Please review the information below regarding your hotel assignment for Comic-Con 2016. You were booked into this hotel because your top six hotel choices were not available. You indicated that you would like to be booked into any available hotel on the shuttle route and have been automatically waitlisted for your top six hotel choices.

A deposit equal to two-night's room rate plus tax must be submitted within 72 hours or your reservation will be cancelled. Deposits can be paid with a credit card by accessing your reservation via the button below. Until your reservation is guaranteed with a deposit, it is subject to cancellation."

etc. Some details will differ depending on your options and how you did in the sale. There was another email like this as they extended the deadline.

Status Change - Your Hotel Request Has Been Released (4/15/2016)

"We did not receive your required deposit by the deadline. This hotel request has been cancelled.

Your requested room has been cancelled and is no longer available. If you still require a room - check back later as rooms may become available closer to the event."

Important Update Regarding Your Waitlist Request for Comic-Con 2016 (5/26/2016) the red text below is my highlighting

Thank you for participating in the hotel reservation request process. You are receiving this email because you requested to be waitlisted. Here are some key items you should know about the waitlist process. For full details, please visit the Comic-Con.org website.

The hotel room waitlist process will begin on Wednesday, June 1st. Please check your email daily for at least 10 business days for an email from Comic-Con 2016 Housing ([email protected]). Guests will only have 48 hours to book a new reservation.
...
How waitlist priority is determined: Waitlist priority is determined by the same timestamp used when you accessed the housing request form on April 5th.

Important Update Regarding Your Waitlist Request for Comic-Con 2016 (6/8/2016)

"Good News!
 
During this year’s hotel sale, you requested to be waitlisted. Since then, we have received some cancellations at a few downtown and nearby hotels and we’re giving waitlisted guests first opportunity to these newly available rooms!
Before you get started, here are a couple of things to keep in mind:

    Only guests on the waitlist should have access to these rooms. If you share this link or if a room is booked by someone not on the waitlist, the reservation is subject to cancelation with penalties.
    Guests are allowed to book only as many rooms as requested on April 5th.
    A password is required to access the booking website. This password is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
    Guests will have 48 hours to take advantage of this opportunity. Once the 48 hours have expired, access to the website will closed to this group and the next group of waitlisted guests will be emailed.
    All new reservations require a deposit equal to two (2) nights’ room rate plus tax at the time of booking. No exceptions can be made.
    To receive a refund on a previously held reservation, you will need to complete a form to cancel your old reservation on the same date as the new reservation is made. If you fail to cancel or if you give your original room to another guest, both reservations are subject to cancellation with penalties.
        The link to the cancellation form is here.
        Once you've submitted your cancellation request, you will receive a cancellation email within 48 business hours. Your refund will occur within the next 10 business days.
        Note: The original reservation must be part of the Comic-Con Hotel Sale, not the Early Bird Sale. All Early Bird reservations are non-refundable. Please check the Hotel Policies on your confirmation email"

Important Update Regarding Your Waitlist Request for Comic-Con 2016 (6/17/2016)
"The Waitlist Process is Now Complete
 
Thank you for participating in the hotel reservation request process. You are receiving this email because the waitlist process is now complete.

If you would still like to reserve a hotel room, please visit the booking website. Rooms are limited and are available on a first-come, first-served basis, so act quickly!"

*******************

This was last year, so don't know if it will be the same. There was some confusion last year where some hotels would pop up on the booking site despite having been people's wait list choices. One thought was that some hotels had released some blocks of rooms that weren't available during the sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on March 17, 2017, 08:50:28 AM
[member=4270]mark[/member] Excellent recap, thanks. 

We can only hope for some consistency during this year's sale, otherwise we will be starting over in the dark again.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: citizenmilton on March 17, 2017, 09:33:29 AM
Last year was the first time I ever participated in the "waitlist" process. One of the big issues was that the time we got a chance to switch to a waitlist option, the date for cancelling an original reservation had already passed.

My group lucked out, we found a better hotel on the waitlist, and we eventually were able to cancel the previous reservation AND get a refund. However, that process was a nightmare, and they made it seem like the refund might not occur.

This gap between the "no more refunds" date and the "waitlist" date - is that something that happens every year? Or was last year just a disorganized mess?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on March 17, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
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They have never had a clean hotel lottery, and it wasn't helped last year by the last minute discussion of the 'double lottery'. Hopefully this year they will have worked out those kinks.. but my hopes aren't very high on that, given my past experience.  :(

Frankly, if it's random anyway, I wish they would just let us fill out our request at our leisure and submit it during a several day window for submission.  Then, they would randomize all the submissions and send us our results.

The live randomization of the badge sale makes sense because you buy the badge on the spot.  But a live randomization while you are waiting on the computer when all you are doing is submitting your choices makes no sense.  It would only make sense if you are making your reservation on the spot.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 17, 2017, 10:46:01 AM
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Frankly, if it's random anyway, I wish they would just let us fill out our request at our leisure and submit it during a several day window for submission.  Then, they would randomize all the submissions and send us our results.

The live randomization of the badge sale makes sense because you buy the badge on the spot.  But a live randomization while you are waiting on the computer when all you are doing is submitting your choices makes no sense.  It would only make sense if you are making your reservation on the spot.

You make a really good point, Dkd. They should either have randomization on the spot for live booking, or a long submission window with results given later (like they now do for parking).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on March 17, 2017, 10:47:00 AM
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Last year was the first time I ever participated in the "waitlist" process. One of the big issues was that the time we got a chance to switch to a waitlist option, the date for cancelling an original reservation had already passed.

My group lucked out, we found a better hotel on the waitlist, and we eventually were able to cancel the previous reservation AND get a refund. However, that process was a nightmare, and they made it seem like the refund might not occur.

This gap between the "no more refunds" date and the "waitlist" date - is that something that happens every year? Or was last year just a disorganized mess?
If you outright cancel your room reservation on their website after the "no more refunds" date, they will, most likely, not give you a refund.

But, as far as I know, they have always let you cancel a reservation at any time as long as you booked the new room through them also, including through the waitlist or open sale.
This excludes Early-Bird rooms which are non-refundable.

You have to be sure to follow their cancellation and refund instructions exactly.
Always book your new reservation first and get a new confirmation number.
Then fill out the cancellation form (new way) or reply to the new confirmation e-mail with a request to cancel old reservation (old way), or both (couldn't hurt).
If you cancel your old reservation through the website instead, you will most likely never get a refund.

Of course, this may all depend on who you are dealing with and how they interpret the cancellation process, but, if you follow the rules, you should have a good argument at getting your refund back.
Sounds like you may have just gotten the wrong CSR.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on March 17, 2017, 10:51:08 AM
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Frankly, if it's random anyway, I wish they would just let us fill out our request at our leisure and submit it during a several day window for submission.  Then, they would randomize all the submissions and send us our results.

The live randomization of the badge sale makes sense because you buy the badge on the spot.  But a live randomization while you are waiting on the computer when all you are doing is submitting your choices makes no sense.  It would only make sense if you are making your reservation on the spot.
I've wondered about this also.  There is really no need to have a live sale if everything is random.
Just let us fill out a form, or send in an email, process the requests in a random order and send us the results.
There's absolutely no back and forth for this sale, so why even try to make it live?
Maybe some day.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tsnyder on March 17, 2017, 12:11:15 PM
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I've wondered about this also.  There is really no need to have a live sale if everything is random.
Just let us fill out a form, or send in an email, process the requests in a random order and send us the results.
There's absolutely no back and forth for this sale, so why even try to make it live?
Maybe some day.

Mind blown!   ???  It makes so much sense................it will never happen.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on March 17, 2017, 02:45:20 PM
I'm thinking of bringing my pet to SDCC this year. While I'm gone most of the day my mom goes back to the hotel room frequently so he wouldn't be alone all day and would be able to be taken out for bathroom breaks. I looked up the pet friendly hotels on the SDCC block but has anyone had any personal experience with bringing a pet to SDCC?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 17, 2017, 02:54:57 PM
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I'm thinking of bringing my pet to SDCC this year. While I'm gone most of the day my mom goes back to the hotel room frequently so he wouldn't be alone all day and would be able to be taken out for bathroom breaks. I looked up the pet friendly hotels on the SDCC block but has anyone had any personal experience with bringing a pet to SDCC?

I brought my dog in 2014. I stayed at Hotel Solamar which is a very pet-friendly hotel. You just need to let them know upon check-in that you have a dog and they give you a door tag that indicates a pet is in the room so the maid knows not to go in.

My dog is anxious, so she did bark when I left but I never heard any complaints about it. It was a little overwhelming for her because of all the people, but she was actually fine in the room when we were gone. I only walked her up to the convention center once because it was so hot. Otherwise I just brought her out to the grassy patch in front of the hotel to go to the bathroom.

If you have any other questions I'd be happy to answer.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on March 17, 2017, 04:09:20 PM
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I'm thinking of bringing my pet to SDCC this year. While I'm gone most of the day my mom goes back to the hotel room frequently so he wouldn't be alone all day and would be able to be taken out for bathroom breaks. I looked up the pet friendly hotels on the SDCC block but has anyone had any personal experience with bringing a pet to SDCC?

I haven't brought my dog (though I've considered it many times!). There's a doggy day care about a block away from the Hotel Indigo (which is also pet friendly) that I use up here in LA as well that is very good. That might be an option if you can't run back to the room during the day! :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on March 17, 2017, 05:31:57 PM
Thanks to you both. What's the name of the doggy day care? I live in LA as well and would like other doggy day care options other than Petsmart.I really like the Marriott Gaslamp last year, but if they're not pet friendly than I have always wanted to try Hotel Indigo. I'll also look into Solamar, but that might be pricey?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on March 17, 2017, 05:58:35 PM
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Thanks to you both. What's the name of the doggy day care? I live in LA as well and would like other doggy day care options other than Petsmart.I really like the Marriott Gaslamp last year, but if they're not pet friendly than I have always wanted to try Hotel Indigo. I'll also look into Solamar, but that might be pricey?

oh god. If you want LA options, we'll be here all day :) I live on the west side now so I use CityDog on Sepulveda/Santa Monica. But, honestly, there are tons of options you can find on Yelp.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 17, 2017, 07:12:41 PM
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Thanks to you both. What's the name of the doggy day care? I live in LA as well and would like other doggy day care options other than Petsmart.I really like the Marriott Gaslamp last year, but if they're not pet friendly than I have always wanted to try Hotel Indigo. I'll also look into Solamar, but that might be pricey?

I am looking at the hotel pdf from last year and the Marriott Gaslamp is not pet friendly. Some hotels are "pet friendly" but they charge you extra money per night or a pet deposit. Hotel Solamar does not charge any extra for a pet.

I'm not sure what you consider to be pricey. For 2016 Solamar is showing $285/1 person, $305/2 persons. To me that's on par with all the other hotels.

A quick look at Hotel Indigo has this as their pet policy:

"Pets Allowed
Guide Dogs, Service Animals Allowed
No deposit required. Limit 2 pets per room. Guest responsible for all behavior or damages by pets. Pets are not to be left unattended. Room will not be serviced if pet is left unattended. Valid cell number required in the event of noise complaints"

I honestly would try for Solamar or Palomar, which is owned by the same company and looks to have the same policy.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: eagler268 on March 18, 2017, 02:03:40 AM
I've just seen that the Residence Inn Gaslamp Quarter has rooms from 7/18 to 7/24 for $259/night

http://www.marriott.com/reservation/rateListMenu.mi

The rooms are non-cancelables but at Hotels.com they have the same dates for $432/night with free cancellation until 7/16

https://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?MGT=c..eo7naQTTJG8.&SYE=c..aM_c5lgGlzg.&WOD=c..oII3BFxCQ5Y.&WOE=c..Jb-ZqR0dTeI.&YGF=c..YC9zvtA5ln4.&ZSX=c..Bl5c-QXvGIs.&hotel-id=c..DyCz2IZL5i4.&pa=c..Jb-ZqR0dTeI.&q-check-in=c..Zf4DXYFxpNs864XoE_Rm4A..&q-check-out=c..Zf4DXYFxpNvWaNBcPdpjoQ..&q-room-0-adults=c..oII3BFxCQ5Y.&q-room-0-children=c..Bl5c-QXvGIs.&tab=c..0oxtl6uEjo5vz5Z-VQJp4w..
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on March 18, 2017, 04:23:59 AM
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I've just seen that the Residence Inn Gaslamp Quarter has rooms from 7/18 to 7/24 for $259/night

http://www.marriott.com/reservation/rateListMenu.mi

The rooms are non-cancelables but at Hotels.com they have the same dates for $432/night with free cancellation until 7/16

https://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?MGT=c..eo7naQTTJG8.&SYE=c..aM_c5lgGlzg.&WOD=c..oII3BFxCQ5Y.&WOE=c..Jb-ZqR0dTeI.&YGF=c..YC9zvtA5ln4.&ZSX=c..Bl5c-QXvGIs.&hotel-id=c..DyCz2IZL5i4.&pa=c..Jb-ZqR0dTeI.&q-check-in=c..Zf4DXYFxpNs864XoE_Rm4A..&q-check-out=c..Zf4DXYFxpNvWaNBcPdpjoQ..&q-room-0-adults=c..oII3BFxCQ5Y.&q-room-0-children=c..Bl5c-QXvGIs.&tab=c..0oxtl6uEjo5vz5Z-VQJp4w..

You have to be careful on the Marriott site as they only list the room price for the first day, not the average price over the entire stay.
Drilling down, you will see "The rate for this room changes on 07/19/17 to 519 (USD) per night"
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: force951 on March 20, 2017, 06:34:19 AM
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I've wondered about this also.  There is really no need to have a live sale if everything is random.
Just let us fill out a form, or send in an email, process the requests in a random order and send us the results.
There's absolutely no back and forth for this sale, so why even try to make it live?
Maybe some day.

The reason is that it keeps the multiple entries as low as they can get it. If you have to keep a browser open, and be able to realize when it gets in the room and enter the info your gonna have around 16 entries max. But if you can just send in a form anytime over the course of a day then you can enter the hotel lottery hundreds of times.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 20, 2017, 07:24:33 AM
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The reason is that it keeps the multiple entries as low as they can get it. If you have to keep a browser open, and be able to realize when it gets in the room and enter the info your gonna have around 16 entries max. But if you can just send in a form anytime over the course of a day then you can enter the hotel lottery hundreds of times.

Not if.... dun dun dun.... the submission was associated with your Member ID!!!!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on March 20, 2017, 08:06:48 AM
I agree. Imagine the stress reduction if we could simply fill out a form at our leisure with an associated Member ID. While this seems like a logical solution, chances are nothing will change with this year's hotel sale. The bigger question I have is how the timeline of remaining events will unfold on this quickly abbreviated calendar.

We've got Creative pro, Open reg, Press, Trade pros, Hotelpocalypse, and Parking to figure out! And not a whole of time left.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: force951 on March 20, 2017, 12:18:07 PM
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Not if.... dun dun dun.... the submission was associated with your Member ID!!!!

And there are a ton of reasons why this would be bad or hard to implement.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 20, 2017, 12:55:48 PM
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And there are a ton of reasons why this would be bad or hard to implement.

We've been through this before on the forum. There are definitely people here who agree with you, but I for one am with [member=314]Transmute Jun[/member] . It doesn't need to be hard to implement (two easy ways off the top of my head: require a unique code to enter, in the same manner as Returning Registration, or make the hotel portal accessible only via the Member ID system so that you have to sign in, and are allowed only one session), and I just don't agree that it would be bad.

SDCC Unofficial Blog estimates that there are 19,500 rooms available in the block vs 130,000 attendees. The hotels are going to sell those rooms even if the pool is 'limited' to badgeholders. And they're going to sell the rest of their rooms at the higher, non-convention rate. I don't see a drawback here for them. It's also clearly not a drawback for badgeholders. So the only people at a disadvantage are those who don't have badges but come down for the offsites and other installations. I feel bad for them, but the fact remains, they are not a part of the Convention. And the discounted rates should be for Con-goers.

As CCI has moved toward requiring all classes of attendees to use member IDs (I think? Does press use member ID? I'm not sure), this makes a ton of sense. I know there are occasionally people who don't know for sure if they're attending until later (panelists and such), and that is a thornier problem, but they are a tiny minority compared to the mass of badgeholders that need rooms.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 20, 2017, 12:59:11 PM
Press does have to have a Member ID as well.

I agree that the people who don't know if they have badges by the time the hotel lottery comes around is a very small pool, and CCI could easily hold back a small number of rooms for them. But this is something they have been reluctant to do, despite numerous requests.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: FBS on March 20, 2017, 01:29:11 PM
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Thanks to you both. What's the name of the doggy day care? I live in LA as well and would like other doggy day care options other than Petsmart.I really like the Marriott Gaslamp last year, but if they're not pet friendly than I have always wanted to try Hotel Indigo. I'll also look into Solamar, but that might be pricey?
Stayed at the Indigo two years ago. We didn't have a dog with us but there were several in the hotel. It was fun to see them wander through.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tt7777 on March 20, 2017, 04:04:52 PM
Is April 6 still the unofficial tentative date for hotels to go on sale?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 20, 2017, 04:05:59 PM
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Is April 6 still the unofficial tentative date for hotels to go on sale?

No. CCI publicly stated that this was not the date, and it is highly unlikely that open registration will have occurred by this date.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 20, 2017, 09:05:08 PM
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Press does have to have a Member ID as well.

I agree that the people who don't know if they have badges by the time the hotel lottery comes around is a very small pool, and CCI could easily hold back a small number of rooms for them. But this is something they have been reluctant to do, despite numerous requests.

This is just 100% incorrect. It's not a very small pool (though it depends what your definition of small pool actually is.) I've posted before about not liking CCI holding back a small number of rooms. If CCI did that, they would have no clue which rooms from what hotels to hold back. It'd simply case more problems than it's worth. Not everyone for instance would want Omni or SD MMM. And of course, say they did that, those WITH badges will find a way to complain, stating CCI is holding back too many rooms and preventing them from accessing all the available inventory. Someone will not be happy either way.

Just know the request to do this is not beneficial for everyone. It's unfair to those who do not yet have a badge come hotel lottery time. I've stating this time and time again. I will continue to do so.

I do however agree with an earlier post of yours, I don't mind if it's tied to a Member ID. I'd rather everyone had only 1 opportunity to partake in the lottery. No extra windows, incognito, or any other garbage. Just 1 chance per person.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 20, 2017, 09:52:38 PM
With 130,000 total attendees, my definition of a very small pool would be anything less than about 2,600 people, although I realize others might disagree.

And I agree there's no way CCI would know which rooms to set aside for those people - but I'm not sure it matters. There's no way CCI can match everyone with a room they want. So, while I don't have any desire to make the late-room-needing people more disadvantaged than the main bulk of the attendees, I don't want to see them more advantaged, either. If they can only get the MMM and not the Omni, or the HBF but not the Hard Rock...I'm afraid I don't see that as a problem.

Frankly, if you offered me the opportunity to reserve, right now, ANY room in a six-block radius from Comic-Con at the negotiated convention rate, I would take it. I have specific preferences, and there are definitely hotels in that list that I'd prefer not to stay at, but I'd take it and be grateful.

I agree that limiting the hotel sale to badgeholders would be unfair to the 1-5% of people who don't know they'll be attending until quite late, and if there was a way to do it without disadvantaging those people I'd be all for it. But I do also think that it would make it fairer for the other 95% of attendees, and for me that means the good outweighs the bad. I do understand how reasonable people might feel the opposite, but this is how I see it, so I'll keep advocating for CCI to make the change. (Not that they've ever shown any inclination to do so.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 20, 2017, 10:11:38 PM
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With 130,000 total attendees, my definition of a very small pool would be anything less than about 2,600 people, although I realize others might disagree.

And I agree there's no way CCI would know which rooms to set aside for those people - but I'm not sure it matters. There's no way CCI can match everyone with a room they want. So, while I don't have any desire to make the late-room-needing people more disadvantaged than the main bulk of the attendees, I don't want to see them more advantaged, either. If they can only get the MMM and not the Omni, or the HBF but not the Hard Rock...I'm afraid I don't see that as a problem.

Frankly, if you offered me the opportunity to reserve, right now, ANY room in a six-block radius from Comic-Con at the negotiated convention rate, I would take it. I have specific preferences, and there are definitely hotels in that list that I'd prefer not to stay at, but I'd take it and be grateful.

I agree that limiting the hotel sale to badgeholders would be unfair to the 1-5% of people who don't know they'll be attending until quite late, and if there was a way to do it without disadvantaging those people I'd be all for it. But I do also think that it would make it fairer for the other 95% of attendees, and for me that means the good outweighs the bad. I do understand how reasonable people might feel the opposite, but this is how I see it, so I'll keep advocating for CCI to make the change. (Not that they've ever shown any inclination to do so.)

Everyone fails to recognize certain sub-groups that have been mentioned ad nauseum yet nobody seems to ever value them as attendees as well. It's not about those who won't know they'll be attending until quite late, but I'd say SDCC staff members, certain VIPs and others from the industry, and I personally know there are those who are general attendees, but are not able to get their badges till very late in the process (like a few weeks prior to the Convention.) Now I'd say those groups total more than 2600 and your 1-5% figure.

I'm okay with what CCI is doing now. It gives everyone the same opportunity to get a hotel. In your example, you say the good outweigh the bad. But that means someone may not get a hotel room because they weren't able to get a badge, or not get one till later on. That's not fair to me. The system now, it's 100% equal opportunity for everyone. There is no disadvantaged class whatsoever. You, me, and everyone else will have the same (hopefully) chance of getting a hotel room. That to me is pure equality. So someone struck out and couldn't get badges, but wanted to at least join friends who did with offsite events, now cannot get a room? NOPE. That is ridiculous to me. Someone got a badge, they got lucky and were able to get it, so now you give them even more by giving them and only them access to the hotels? Where does this stop? Do you prevent people from being able to buy parking if they don't have a badge? I'm sorry, but I'm for EVERYONE. I'm not here to give an advantage to the top 95% or whatever number. I'm here wanting to give everyone the same chance.

Also, this MAY be a small number, but someone who is new and does not have a badge, comes to SDCC just to enjoy the surroundings. It may give them reason next year to try even harder to get a badge and see what SDCC is like. In your scenario, you're preventing this from ever happening, since no badge, means they potentially may not have access to a hotel room, and thus may not come to SDCC at all.

Finally, SDCC isn't just the convention anymore. All the things surrounding the area matter as well.

CCI pretty much own a monopoly on the available rooms, I'm glad they're not enforcing it to such an extent that someone who wants to come just for offsite events, for instance, cannot get a room in the lottery. Now to make it clear, I'm not saying this to help myself. I have a badge, and have always had one for many years now. This year included. But, I still don't want it where one group has an advantage, and another does not. And for the record, while as a badge-holder, I've stayed at a friend's home in La Mesa and had to trolley in every morning, commuted from a city an hour away every day, gotten a hotel on Shelter Island in the lottery and took the shuttle 35+ mins each way, and done whatever else I needed to make sure I had a place to stay. If someone has a badge and wants to stay somewhere, they can make it work. No one is entitled to access the hotel lottery more than someone else. At least not in my mind.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 20, 2017, 10:45:44 PM
[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] I don't want to keep arguing with you, because I agree that many of your points are valid, and it's clear that we're just never going to agree.

I will say, though, that I believe you've identified the crux of our disagreement: you believe the hotel sale should be open to everyone, and I believe it should be open only to badgeholders. The nitpicky points of who exactly is a badgeholder (FWIW, I mean anyone participating in SDCC itself in any capacity, but not anyone connected only with the offsites or other properties) and when people know they will need a room aside, that seems to be where we diverge, and we're just never going to see eye to eye on that.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 20, 2017, 10:57:56 PM
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[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] I don't want to keep arguing with you, because I agree that many of your points are valid, and it's clear that we're just never going to agree.

I will say, though, that I believe you've identified the crux of our disagreement: you believe the hotel sale should be open to everyone, and I believe it should be open only to badgeholders. The nitpicky points of who exactly is a badgeholder (FWIW, I mean anyone participating in SDCC itself in any capacity, but not anyone connected only with the offsites or other properties) and when people know they will need a room aside, that seems to be where we diverge, and we're just never going to see eye to eye on that.

I hope you know I don't find this arguing, so much as a genuine debate. Good talk is good talk. I replied to you, because I enjoyed reading what you have to say. I may not agree, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy enlightened conversation. Do note, I don't necessarily disagree with your statement about those participating in SDCC at any capacity. However, I feel like many of those with badges do not understand that not everyone has their badge at the same time. So those who do not have a badge yet when the hotel sale takes place, is out of luck. That's where the idea of rooms being held back was offered as a solution. The biggest problem here is what I previously stated. Not every hotel choice will be available. Not everyone will be as open as you in taking any hotel in the 6 block radius you stated. Maybe I'm the only one, I wouldn't take a lot of hotels there. I've stayed at most of them, and some I won't stay at again. Lets say my list of hotels I won't stay at again, includes some of the "best" and most popular choices. I can't imagine I'm the only one. Then I'm sure some people will not want certain hotels simply due to the cost or even location. Maybe someone will want something farther. It just is impossible to make every group happy. That's where I came to the conclusion of the lottery being open to all. Trust me, I've thought of many ideas that I could suggest to everyone here, but there's always some negative aspect. Having the hotel lottery open to all is the lesser of all evils in my mind. It has the least amount of problems.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 20, 2017, 11:50:54 PM
@jonathan You're right, this is definitely more of a debate than an argument. I just didn't want to monopolize the discussion when it seems clear that we're not going to come to agreement on this particular point.

Especially when I still have hope that CCI can find ways to update this process so it's truly fairer for everyone.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on March 21, 2017, 08:24:16 AM
People always disagree about the hotels in general, whether it be the reasons why someone likes some hotels over others, or people just thinking you should be happy that you get one at all, or the way the hotel sale is conducted, etc.

If it were possible for badge holders to get first dibs and THEN allow everyone else to participate after, that would seem to me to be a decent compromise.  It's not really necessary for those who don't have a badge and are not going inside the convention center for any reason to be staying at the Bayfront or the Marquis.  Those hotels especially make it easier for the con-goers to get sleep, swap in and out of line with other line savers during the night and to shower and be clean for the next days events (not that a lot of people bother with that  ??? ).  Why should those who are just hanging out in the area and taking advantage of the outside events need the immediacy of the next door hotels?  Just saying.  I mean it's not like they are in a rush.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on March 21, 2017, 10:23:47 AM
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...If it were possible for badge holders to get first dibs and THEN allow everyone else to participate after, that would seem to me to be a decent compromise.  It's not really necessary for those who don't have a badge and are not going inside the convention center for any reason to be staying at the Bayfront or the Marquis.  Those hotels especially make it easier for the con-goers to get sleep, swap in and out of line with other line savers during the night and to shower and be clean for the next days events (not that a lot of people bother with that  ??? ).  Why should those who are just hanging out in the area and taking advantage of the outside events need the immediacy of the next door hotels?  Just saying.  I mean it's not like they are in a rush.

Exactly! I don't have any issues with non-badge holders getting hotel rooms. Just not downtown ones. At least not at the same time as badge holders who have paid for the use of the Convention Center.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: stl_ben on March 21, 2017, 10:27:49 AM
Trying to limit the hotels to just whatever group you fit into isnt ever going to happen.....
What about volunteers, booth workers, guests, grandmas that come into town to watch the grandkids during the convention, people coming into town for one direction concerts and on and on and on.....
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 21, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
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Trying to limit the hotels to just whatever group you fit into isnt ever going to happen.....
What about volunteers, booth workers, guests, grandmas that come into town to watch the grandkids during the convention, people coming into town for one direction concerts and on and on and on.....

I've been saying this ALL ALONG. It seems like if someone paid for a badge, they feel entitled to a room. Not everyone has a paid badge yet during the hotel lottery. That's fact. Even badges themselves are not guaranteed. So you get a badge, now you're guaranteed a downtown room too? Just unfair. Nothing is more fair than everyone having the same shot. A badge =/= a room.

I want to pose a very interesting question for those who advocate badge holders get first access to hotel rooms. What about badge holders who only bought say 1 day? 2 days et all? So say someone has only Friday or a Saturday badge. They're allowed to access the hotel lottery and get a room for the entire con? It seems those who advocate the hotels for badge holders are under the assumption EVERYONE has a 4 Day badge, but that is not true. Not everyone could get that or want that. Now explain how they then deserve a hotel room, but someone else doesn't?

As I've said, there's so much going on, it's just never going to be fair for everyone, unless everyone has the same access to the lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on March 21, 2017, 11:03:27 AM
Putting my two cents in, when I purchase tickets to an event, whether it be SDCC, Wondercon, Blizzcon, Comikazi, D23, SWCA or Gallifrey One and these organizers have negotiated rates with hotels for THEIR attendees to reserve rooms at, then it is my belief that the attendees should have first dibs at the hotels, there will be hotel rooms available for others who may only be coming for the off-site activities but maybe not at MMM or Hilton Bayfront, Hard Rock.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on March 21, 2017, 11:06:21 AM
Quick question: can anyone name a major event where non-ticket/badge holders are given the discount rate of badge/ticket holders?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 21, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Obviously getting a badge is never going to guarantee you a downtown room. There are nowhere near enough downtown rooms in the block to guarantee each badgeholder a downtown room. There aren't even enough total rooms in the block to guarantee every badgeholder a room at all. That's just hyperbole.

And FWIW I don't believe CCI should be "guaranteeing" rooms at all. However, CCI is the reason everyone is downtown that weekend. They negotiate special rates with the hotels for the express purpose of holding their convention. I don't think it's at all absurd or unreasonable to expect that only people directly connected with the convention should have the first opportunity to reserve those rooms.

Many other conventions make that stipulation. If fact, a few years back the Manchester Grand Hyatt decided to book an entirely separate event during Comic-Con weekend (some sort of healthcare conference). They dropped out of the CCI hotel block, but they did offer attendees of the healthcare conference a discounted rate for the weekend. Several CCI attendees found the code for the discounted rate and used it to book rooms, intending to use the rooms to attend CCI instead. The MGH employed a verification process. When they discovered that the CCI attendees had no connection to the healthcare conference, the MGH cancelled their rooms.

I understand that there are reasons that CCI may not want to limit the hotel sale to badgeholders. But let's not pretend that it's not a totally normal thing for a convention to do.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 21, 2017, 11:12:43 AM
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Putting my two cents in, when I purchase tickets to an event, whether it be SDCC, Wondercon, Blizzcon, Comikazi, D23, SWCA or Gallifrey One and these organizers have negotiated rates with hotels for THEIR attendees to reserve rooms at, then it is my belief that the attendees should have first dibs at the hotels, there will be hotel rooms available for others who may only be coming for the off-site activities but maybe not at MMM or Hilton Bayfront, Hard Rock.

This has been brought-up before. But let me start by saying you mentioned Wondercon, Blizzcon, Comikaze aka LA Comic-Con, SWCA and Gallifrey. Do you know their attendance numbers? If not, let me give you them.

Wondercon - 2016 - 60,000
Blizzcon - 2015 - 25,000
Comikaze - 77,800
D23 - 2014 - 45,000
SWCA - 2015 - 50,000
Gallifrey - about 4000 based on all I have attended.

Anyways, you would need to add a bunch of these conventions together and then they will surpass SDCC's attendance numbers. You're comparing apples to oranges. If SDCC only had 80,000 in attendance, I doubt we'd have as big of an issue with the hotels as we do.

And if you've read what  SDCC said last year, they didn't actually word it as THEIR attendees. It seemed that the hotel rates they negotiated were for all who came to SDCC (both on-site and off.) Again based on their own wording not ours.

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Obviously getting a badge is never going to guarantee you a downtown room. There are nowhere near enough downtown rooms in the block to guarantee each badgeholder a downtown room. There aren't even enough total rooms in the block to guarantee every badgeholder a room at all. That's just hyperbole.

I don't think it's hyperbole at all. You're telling me there aren't people here who believe that CCI should guarantee someone with a paid badge a room? I can even give you examples, because I remember what was said. Beyond that, the only exaggeration is believing that anything associated with SDCC can be deemed "normal."
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on March 21, 2017, 11:35:36 AM
When I am planning travel one of the things I do is to check the convention calendar in the city.  If there is a large convention, or a bunch of small conventions, I revise my plans because I know the hotels will be booked by people who have paid to attend those conventions.  I know if I go ahead and go there I won't get the hotel of my choice and will probably end up staying farther away.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on March 21, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
I still think the first dibs thing would work.  They could do the sale in waves. 

Non-badgeholders don't need to stay downtown.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on March 21, 2017, 01:51:57 PM
Managed to snag a room here via Hotels.com a while back

http://www.westparkinn.com/
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: stl_ben on March 22, 2017, 07:31:31 AM
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Quick question: can anyone name a major event where non-ticket/badge holders are given the discount rate of badge/ticket holders?


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Not the same at all as SDCC takes literally ALL of the rooms.  Not just some of them, ALL of them. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 22, 2017, 07:56:04 AM
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Not the same at all as SDCC takes literally ALL of the rooms.  Not just some of them, ALL of them.

Actually, to give a comparison....

GenCon takes place in Indianapolis each year. It is about half the size of SDCC (60,000-ish attendees, plus exhibitors, volunteers, press, pros, etc.) but is in a place about half the size. GenCon takes ALL of the downtown rooms. ALL of them. Plus the outlying areas in the suburbs and near the airport. EVERYONE wants a downtown room, and there wouldn't be enough if they had double the number of those rooms. GenCon faces many of the same issues that SDCC does in terms of hotels. And how do they solve it? The have a lottery to book hotels. But to enter the lottery, you have to login to your 'member ID' account to book. Each 'member ID' account with a valid badge is randomly assigned a time slot in the lottery. You find out when your time is, then come back at that time and book from live inventory, based on whatever is left. ALL downtown rooms go to people associated with the con.

Now that doesn't mean all downtown rooms go to attendees. Nope. GenCon holds back a certain number for special blocks, such as VIPs, guests of the show, staff, etc. While they may not know exactly who these people are, they do know how *many* rooms they will need and hold them back. Oh, and did I mention that the hotel lottery happens in January/February for a con held in August? MONTHS ahead of time.

I'm not saying that SDCC must do things this way (although I'd love it if they did) but this is an example of a con that is just as crowded/in demand in terms of downtown rooms and how only people associated with the convention get those rooms.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Dubb on March 22, 2017, 04:55:28 PM
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I still think the first dibs thing would work.  They could do the sale in waves. 

Non-badgeholders don't need to stay downtown.

No one needs to stay downtown. I've been lucky enough to get badges the past few years, but I always plan on going even if I am not lucky enough in any particular year. I love to stay downtown, and would love to do it even if I can't get into the convention.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rickythump on March 22, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
All these comparisons are interesting, but it seems like people are forgetting the presence and the amount of "offsites" that San Diego has that no one else has.

No one is going to make a special trip to Indianapolis for the Gencon offsites, they aren't that special. SDCC is completely different - Conan, NerdHQ, the MTV concert, special movie screenings, Adult Swim, Sci-Fi Channel event, whatever license buys out the Hard Rock, etc. etc. etc. We could all go on all day naming offsites - everyone knows that San Diego is taken over for SDCC, which encourages people to attend who don't have badges.

If everyone is up in arms about hotels, perhaps you should consider petitioning the hundreds of independent venues, studios and global brands that set up to promote at the event and ask them to limit entry to the people who are badgeholders. You won't get very far, but it makes a lot more sense than biting the ankles of the CCI about how we as badge holders are entitled to hotels before anyone else is.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on March 23, 2017, 09:13:33 AM
Early bird sale

https://www.comic-con.org/cci/early-bird-hotel-sale
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on March 23, 2017, 09:16:49 AM
Noticed that town and country is now a 4 night minimum, stayed there 3 nights last year
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AzT on March 23, 2017, 09:19:55 AM
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Early bird sale

https://www.comic-con.org/cci/early-bird-hotel-sale

(bold = mine)

http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/comic-con-2017-early-bird-hotel-sale-now-open

LOCK IN YOUR HOTEL RESERVATION NOW! Comic-Con 2017 Early Bird Hotel Sale Now Open!

While Comic-Con 2017’s general hotel reservation sale (which includes the downtown hotels closest to the San Diego Convention Center) won’t open for a little while, you can book your hotel reservation now in our Early Bird Hotel Sale! The sale includes 11 hotels in the Mission Valley and Airport area, all at great rates, and all on the Comic-Con Shuttle route! And some of the hotels offer special offers and incentives for booking early.

Complete info is on our Early Bird Hotel Sale page (click here to visit it), but please keep this in mind:

Only book a room IF you already know you have a Comic-Con 2017 badge! These rooms are available on a NON-REFUNDABLE basis.

The Early Bird Hotel Sale is a great way to get your room locked in now … take advantage of it and use the Comic-Con Shuttle to get to and from the Convention Center. Low prices and a free ride … what more could you ask for?

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/early-bird-hotel-sale

The Comic-Con Early Bird Hotel Sale is Back Again for 2017!

If you are attending Comic-Con 2017, get your room before everyone else with the Comic-Con Early Bird Hotel Sale! The Early Bird Hotel Sale includes exclusive hotels in the Mission Valley and Airport area, all at great rates, and all on the Comic-Con Shuttle route!

Here's your chance to save money with onPeak, the official hotel partner of Comic-Con 2017.

Please read all the information on this page before clicking the link at the bottom to reserve a room.

A limited number of Mission Valley and Airport area hotel rooms will be made available for this special Early Bird Sale. No downtown hotels will be available in this sale.

This special Early Bird Hotel Sale is only available BEFORE general housing opens. All rooms must be paid for in advance and are non-transferable. THERE ARE NO REFUNDS OR EXCHANGES.

Please note: Reserving Early Bird hotel rooms does not guarantee you a badge for Comic-Con 2017. If you do not currently have a badge, please DO NOT purchase prepaid, non-refundable hotel rooms. If you are unable to get the badges you want or if you do not get any badges at all, we will not be able to refund any part of your Early Bird hotel reservation prepayment.

Shuttle service will be available on Wednesday, July 19 from 3:00 PM until 10:00 PM. 24-hour shuttle service begins Thursday, July 20 at 7:00 AM and runs through Sunday, July 23 at 7:00 PM to help fans enjoy every hour of Comic-Con and the nighttime fun.

BOOKING POLICIES:

Each room reservation requires full pre-payment at the time of booking.
Your full pre-payment is NON-REFUNDABLE, regardless of circumstance.
You must be over 18 years of age to book a reservation.
The "Comic-Con Early Bird" hotel rates are limited and subject to availability.
Reservations are NON-TRANSFERABLE.
Name changes and adding nights to your stay will be accepted through onPeak up to May 1, 2017.
Reduction in room nights will not be eligible for refunds.
Within 2 weeks of your arrival date, please contact the hotel directly for any date changes.
If you do not check in on your scheduled arrival date, the hotel will consider your reservation a "No Show" and your entire reservation will be forfeited, along with your entire prepayment.
Rates listed below are for 1 or 2 people in each room. Additional people in the room or rooms with two (2) beds may increase the room rate. You will be able to see these additional rates before confirming your reservation. Some of the hotels will also be offering special incentives for those booking early. Be sure to review the list below for details.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jawabeenz on March 23, 2017, 09:35:36 AM
for the record, it might be wise to jump on an early bird if you dont care about downtown.. yes you can probably still get it after the sale or will most likely get it IN the sale but it removes the frustration.

case in point...(its a doozy) last year 5 of us were in the hotel sale. all had multiple browsers/windows. I was the first one in at 9:01:03 and finished FAST just in case.. I got none of my top 6 (all downtown) i got hotel circle.. the 2nd one in out of our group was in at 9:01:20, finished fast as well, got hotel circle.. again no top 6 all downtown.. 3rd of us in at 9:02:20, she finished slowly, it was her first rodeo..SHE GOT DOWNTOWN #1 of her top 6. which were all the same top 6 as everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So i ask you. how is this sale legit????!!!! our only conclusion is its utterly random. screw whatever they say. they lie. theyre a major corporation who really dont give a schit.

I even took it up with them proving our times and the eventual outcome just to prove a point. they decided to blow me off. So i tried again, and I was blown off again. so i wrote a NASTY letter to the president. At this point i was contacted 3 times a day by onpeak to discuss my letter. After finally getting someone to listen, I was told my letter was worded very harshly and that all requests were processed by time. I reiterated that im PROVING THATS NOT THE CASE. At this point they hung up and I was "supposedly" waitlisted. (i know it didnt matter since we got downtown but its the principle of the whole thing)

So... i waited on my waitlist... if im the first one in out of our group, i should have a great waitlist time.... waitlists come and go. the other 3 members of my group all got their waitlist emails.. nothing great, more hotel circle.. me?...NOTHING.. a few more days go by. at the very very very end of the waitlist period i get my waitlist email. NO HOTELS AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW IN THE WORLD DOES A 9:01 TIME GET ME NOTHING?? at this point im blaming the horrendous customer care calls I had for my form being thrown to the very end out of spite. WHO DOES THAT??? a schitty schitty company. thats who.

So F onpeak.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on March 23, 2017, 09:37:13 AM
List of Hotel Reviews for SDCC thread updated with the Early Bird Hotels for 2017 and the links to their reviews.

Thread link:
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5513.0

2017 Post link:
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5513.msg194810#msg194810

Two dropped off the list vs. last year:
DoubleTree SD Hotel Circle
Best Western Seven Seas

None seem to have been added.

From what I remember, the Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina seems to be the most favorable reviewed in terms of ease of access to the Con.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on March 23, 2017, 09:40:28 AM
I hadn't realized how great some of the parking prices were for some of these hotels in the Early Bird.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on March 23, 2017, 09:56:58 AM
For any first timers going this year I thought I'd share my opinion. Last year was my first time and booked in early bird for peace of mind. I did feel after a little dettached from the full sdcc experience and for as quick as the trolley ride was (about 15 mins) it was a bit of a pain if you forgot stuff (which I did twice lol) or wanted to drop stuff off.
Positives are that guaranteed a room and prices are cheaper
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: BadWolf on March 23, 2017, 09:58:35 AM
Is it odd that hotels are going on sale before Open Registration? Or is that par for the course?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Tea_Angel on March 23, 2017, 10:08:50 AM
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Is it odd that hotels are going on sale before Open Registration? Or is that par for the course?

I think it's par for the course.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on March 23, 2017, 11:00:44 AM
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I think it's par for the course.

Its a little odd that early bird is before open reg, but the actual hotel lottery will be after. SDCC blog noted that hotelpocalypse will be probably be 5/1 or 5/2 (the day after early bird closes). Nothing confirmed yet though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rushfanyyz on March 23, 2017, 11:05:58 AM
I know early bird was before open reg in 2015 and 2016 for sure because that's what I did those years. It will still be open after open registration right up until the regular hotel sale (if all stays the same), and usually most of the hotels still have rooms available.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sessionka on March 23, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
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Early bird sale

https://www.comic-con.org/cci/early-bird-hotel-sale

Can someone explain to me the advantage of the early bird hotel sale?  There are no downtown hotels, there is a minimum of days you have to book, and the booking is non-refundable.

Really...I'm just curious.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: debster on March 23, 2017, 11:20:20 AM
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Can someone explain to me the advantage of the early bird hotel sale?  There are no downtown hotels, there is a minimum of days you have to book, and the booking is non-refundable.

Really...I'm just curious.

Some people get nothing from the regular hotel lottery and then there's a scramble to get any room at all. With the early bird you are guaranteed a room and don't have to stress about finding a place to stay.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on March 23, 2017, 11:20:26 AM
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Can someone explain to me the advantage of the early bird hotel sale?  There are no downtown hotels, there is a minimum of days you have to book, and the booking is non-refundable.

Really...I'm just curious.

Cheaper than downtown if you're on a budget and a guaranteed room and not left scrambling if you miss out in the lottery
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dartz13 on March 23, 2017, 11:40:09 AM
Glad I was able to book at the same hotel for the same price. I don't mind Mission Valley since I love that area and enjoyed my stay. Plus, it saves me the headache of hotelpocalypse. XD
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sessionka on March 23, 2017, 01:18:32 PM
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Cheaper than downtown if you're on a budget and a guaranteed room and not left scrambling if you miss out in the lottery

Now I understand.

My first Comic-con, I didn't know anything about either the early bird sale of the lottery.  I booked in May, on my own, on Shelter Island, and got the price quoted on CCI's hotel list.  Having no expectation, I was fine.  The hotel was on the shuttle route, which I thought was very efficient, so I had no complaints. 

Funny thing though.  There was a couple booking a room the same day I was checking in.  The rate they got was $100/day more than I was paying.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Dubb on March 23, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
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Can someone explain to me the advantage of the early bird hotel sale?  There are no downtown hotels, there is a minimum of days you have to book, and the booking is non-refundable.

Really...I'm just curious.

In addition to what was already listed, some hotels will also throw in free breakfast and cheaper parking rates than what you would get at the same hotel through the regular hotel sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hikanteki on March 23, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
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Some people get nothing from the regular hotel lottery and then there's a scramble to get any room at all. With the early bird you are guaranteed a room and don't have to stress about finding a place to stay.

There are always non-DT hotels available until shortly before the show (like a couple weeks out.) I guess it's nice if you want something right away and don't need DT, though. But for me, the part about being non-refundable is a deal-breaker.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on March 23, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
Hmm might jump on that Sheraton by the airport in that case.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Abby_Normal on March 23, 2017, 04:51:09 PM
Since I'm pro and am good to go, I got Town and Country through Early Bird. Would I prefer Downtown? Heck yes. But T&C is fine what with being right on the trolley route, and I don't have to fret about #hotelpocalypse.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on March 23, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
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Since I'm pro and am good to go, I got Town and Country through Early Bird. Would I prefer Downtown? Heck yes. But T&C is fine what with being right on the trolley route, and I don't have to fret about #hotelpocalypse.

Fancy seeing you here Abby. Is Town and country good?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mel on March 23, 2017, 06:54:13 PM
In the Early Bird, Doubletree is a great option too. It's located in Hazard Center with lots of restaurants, plus is right next to the Hazard Center trolley stop, gives free breakfast and free parking. And it's a lot nicer than Town and Country.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on March 23, 2017, 07:29:06 PM
Yeah, I can get early bird too, just wondering if the lower hotel costs in Mission Valley outweigh the distance from downtown.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on March 23, 2017, 07:47:56 PM
In case anyone is curious about the number of rooms that are currently available for each night at each hotel in the Early Bird Sale...

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Edit to fix table.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: stl_ben on March 24, 2017, 06:26:17 AM
Any rumored dates for 2018 so I can start worrying about a hotel for it too?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on March 24, 2017, 06:35:42 AM
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Any rumored dates for 2018 so I can start worrying about a hotel for it too?
There's always rumors...  http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7210.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7210.0)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Abby_Normal on March 26, 2017, 06:59:34 AM
Town and Country is a fine place. Been there the last two years. It's right across the street from the Mission Valley Mall trolley stop, so it's not that big a deal to get to and from there. There's a shuttle but I find it's easier to just take the trolley (you can get a pass for the entirety of the con for $20 or so).
Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on March 26, 2017, 09:24:42 AM

There was some discussion earlier about who has to have member ID's and badges because it affects rooms being held by CCI. I found it fascinating to discover that even "guests" have to have member ID's and badges. At least it appears that way. I remember Nathan Fillion auctioning off his badge to raise funds for Operation Smiles at Nerd HQ. @TardisMom, if I remember correctly, won the auction and could verify.



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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on March 26, 2017, 12:39:20 PM
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There was some discussion earlier about who has to have member ID's and badges because it affects rooms being held by CCI. I found it fascinating to discover that even "guests" have to have member ID's and badges. At least it appears that way. I remember Nathan Fillion auctioning off his badge to raise funds for Operation Smiles at Nerd HQ. [member=842]TardisMom[/member], if I remember correctly, won the auction and could verify.
Sorry, I'm no help.  At Nerd HQ I won a tee signed by Nathan and Zach.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on March 26, 2017, 12:54:29 PM
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Sorry, I'm no help.  At Nerd HQ I won a tee signed by Nathan and Zach.
@TardisMom wins one of Nathan's auctions every year, so I was guessing it was her (lol). But I distinctly remember Nathan auctioning his actual badge. I remember wondering if it was a bad idea for him to give away the barcode and other numeric information on the badge.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on March 27, 2017, 09:35:35 AM
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Town and Country is a fine place. Been there the last two years. It's right across the street from the Mission Valley Mall trolley stop, so it's not that big a deal to get to and from there. There's a shuttle but I find it's easier to just take the trolley (you can get a pass for the entirety of the con for $20 or so).

Thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on March 27, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
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In the Early Bird, Doubletree is a great option too. It's located in Hazard Center with lots of restaurants, plus is right next to the Hazard Center trolley stop, gives free breakfast and free parking. And it's a lot nicer than Town and Country.

If I recall, wasn't the Doubletree the last pick up hotel on the shuttle route, meaning after you were picked up at the hotel, the bus took you straight to the convention center?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on March 27, 2017, 02:14:59 PM
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If I recall, wasn't the Doubletree the last pick up hotel on the shuttle route, meaning after you were picked up at the hotel, the bus took you straight to the convention center?

I couldn't find the shuttle map for 2016, but based on the 2015 one, yes the Doubletree Mission Valley is the last hotel, then straight to the convention center.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on March 27, 2017, 03:23:15 PM
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I couldn't find the shuttle map for 2016, but based on the 2015 one, yes the Doubletree Mission Valley is the last hotel, then straight to the convention center.
Doubltree is a decent brand. It's the Chevy for the Hilton chain. With it being last on the route, do know if having room left to get on the shuttle has been a problem?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 27, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
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Doubltree is a decent brand. It's the Chevy for the Hilton chain.

I don't know about that. Free warm chocolate chip cookies on check-in is better than a Chevy to me! ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on March 27, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
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I don't know about that. Free warm chocolate chip cookies on check-in is better than a Chevy to me! ;)
It's hard to argue with a warm cookie. I think of Chevy as a middle of the road (pun intended) brand. Hilton Garden Inn, Embassy Suites and Doubletree are the middle of the Hilton brand. They're a step up from Hampton Inn, but not quite a Hilton. Conrad and the Waldorf Astoria are their top of the line Cadillac brands. I stay in Hilton family hotels about 30 - 35 nights a year, and I've had a good experience at every level (Never been to the Waldorf though ). I think that early bird Doubletree is exactly the ticket. If I hadn't been spoiled by being downtown these last 5 years, I'd be all over that.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on March 27, 2017, 05:21:53 PM
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If I recall, wasn't the Doubletree the last pick up hotel on the shuttle route, meaning after you were picked up at the hotel, the bus took you straight to the convention center?
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I couldn't find the shuttle map for 2016, but based on the 2015 one, yes the Doubletree Mission Valley is the last hotel, then straight to the convention center.

Here is the OP for the 2016 shuttle discussion. It has an image of the shuttle route (scroll down, and it's under a spoiler tag)
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6053.msg150023#msg150023

Doubletree was indeed the last stop on the Purple route.

There was some mention in the reviews of this hotel of issues in 2012 or 2013 of issues with the shuttle being full, or not even making it to the hotel because it was full. They had to call and complain that 20-25 people were waiting, and an empty shuttle was sent. I hope they alleviated that in the following years.

Link to reviews of this hotel (no reviews of a 2016 experience)
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5512.msg134033#msg134033
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on March 28, 2017, 04:38:12 AM
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I'm thinking of bringing my pet to SDCC this year. While I'm gone most of the day my mom goes back to the hotel room frequently so he wouldn't be alone all day and would be able to be taken out for bathroom breaks. I looked up the pet friendly hotels on the SDCC block but has anyone had any personal experience with bringing a pet to SDCC?

We took a pet to Hilton Bayfront and it was a good experience.  I think it's a small/reasonable fee.  No issues and friendly staff.  The elevators can be a bit crowded and, of course, the lobbies and areas around Bayfront are always hoppin' but if your pup is reasonably good around people, things should be ok.  Good luck to you!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jim Watari on March 28, 2017, 07:45:18 AM
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It's hard to argue with a warm cookie. I think of Chevy as a middle of the road (pun intended) brand. Hilton Garden Inn, Embassy Suites and Doubletree are the middle of the Hilton brand. They're a step up from Hampton Inn, but not quite a Hilton. Conrad and the Waldorf Astoria are their top of the line Cadillac brands. I stay in Hilton family hotels about 30 - 35 nights a year, and I've had a good experience at every level (Never been to the Waldorf though ). I think that early bird Doubletree is exactly the ticket. If I hadn't been spoiled by being downtown these last 5 years, I'd be all over that.


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Once you've experienced downtown its hard to go back.

I stayed in Mission Valley back in 2007 & 2008. It was not a big deal to get parking downtown at the time. You just got there really early and parked at Petco Park parking.

I see that Town & Country  reservations outside of SDCC are also not cancel-able during SDCC dates
 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Agoyo on March 28, 2017, 10:01:53 AM
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Here is the OP for the 2016 shuttle discussion. It has an image of the shuttle route (scroll down, and it's under a spoiler tag)
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6053.msg150023#msg150023

Doubletree was indeed the last stop on the Purple route.

There was some mention in the reviews of this hotel of issues in 2012 or 2013 of issues with the shuttle being full, or not even making it to the hotel because it was full. They had to call and complain that 20-25 people were waiting, and an empty shuttle was sent. I hope they alleviated that in the following years.

Link to reviews of this hotel (no reviews of a 2016 experience)
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5512.msg134033#msg134033

Last year (2016) Doubletree MV was again at the end of the shuttle pick up route and there were occasional issues with the shuttle having limited or no space during peak times. It did not seem as bad a previous years and the shuttles seemed to run closer to on time than in the past. This despite more people than ever before using the shuttles.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on March 28, 2017, 11:04:34 AM
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Once you've experienced downtown its hard to go back.

I stayed in Mission Valley back in 2007 & 2008. It was not a big deal to get parking downtown at the time. You just got there really early and parked at Petco Park parking.

I see that Town & Country  reservations outside of SDCC are also not cancel-able during SDCC dates
 
so true, last year was are 1st year staying downtown and at MMM nontheless. and now this year,  my #1 is HBF, #2 is Omni. fingers crossed i get either one this year during hotelapocalypse.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on March 28, 2017, 11:06:41 AM
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If I hadn't been spoiled by being downtown these last 5 years, I'd be all over that.
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I'm with you on that, after staying at the Hilton the last 3 yrs, I've been spoiled and the kids don't want to consider anything else.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on March 28, 2017, 11:33:28 AM
so do you guys think they'd do the hotel sale the tuesday after open reg? 4/11? the following Tuesday 4/18 is tax day, doesn't seem like they'd do it then. hopefully it's not in May! I'm anxious enough already with this late timeline.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on March 28, 2017, 12:25:25 PM
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I couldn't find the shuttle map for 2016, but based on the 2015 one, yes the Doubletree Mission Valley is the last hotel, then straight to the convention center.

I'd recommend the first few hotels on the route. There are certain mission valley hotels that really pack a line, and it's possible the shuttle could show up already full. Though it's possible they work around this by having two shuttles with similar times
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 28, 2017, 12:33:35 PM
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so do you guys think they'd do the hotel sale the tuesday after open reg? 4/11? the following Tuesday 4/18 is tax day, doesn't seem like they'd do it then. hopefully it's not in May! I'm anxious enough already with this late timeline.

It may not be on a Tuesday. IIRC, it has been on a Thursday before, and maybe even once on a Wednesday?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: justboogie on March 28, 2017, 12:39:48 PM
Last year's hotel sale was Tuesday April 5th.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on March 28, 2017, 12:40:10 PM
Either I'm getting old or getting smarter. Part of me is starting to wonder if not being downtown would be a good thing. It is pretty nuts! And I've loved the nuttiness, but... That being said, this year my cosplay is going to huge and a pain in the butt to shuttle or trolley in, so it's all in on downtown at least one more year - fingers crossed.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TravT77 on April 02, 2017, 05:57:40 AM
Anyone ever had trouble with getting booted out of your reserved hotel room when booking far in advance of next years SDCC? I travel for work and have actually been booted from my room due to a ball game in the area so the hotel could jack up the rates!! Just wondering if its safe to start looking at next years hotel reservation.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 02, 2017, 07:08:28 AM
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Anyone ever had trouble with getting booted out of your reserved hotel room when booking far in advance of next years SDCC? I travel for work and have actually been booted from my room due to a ball game in the area so the hotel could jack up the rates!! Just wondering if its safe to start looking at next years hotel reservation.


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I have never had this issue at any other convention I have been to.
Like you, I usually book a room for conventions a year in advance using Booking.com or Hotels.com so there is at least protection on their end, and those two are reputable.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 02, 2017, 11:40:59 PM
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Anyone ever had trouble with getting booted out of your reserved hotel room when booking far in advance of next years SDCC? I travel for work and have actually been booted from my room due to a ball game in the area so the hotel could jack up the rates!! Just wondering if its safe to start looking at next years hotel reservation.


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If it's 100% reserved, they can't boot you. I mean they can, but they have to put you up in a similar level hotel. They can't just cancel your reservation without your say so. If that happened to me, I would be all over the hotel's corporate headquarters talking to someone on the phone.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TravT77 on April 03, 2017, 04:38:45 AM
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If it's 100% reserved, they can't boot you. I mean they can, but they have to put you up in a similar level hotel. They can't just cancel your reservation without your say so. If that happened to me, I would be all over the hotel's corporate headquarters talking to someone on the phone.
Unfortunately, it does happen. In my case it was for a big Clemson University football game.  Here is an article I found  about the same issue http://www.kgw.com/mb/news/investigations/hotels-canceling-reservations-for-eclipse-viewing-jacking-prices/424326842




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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 03, 2017, 08:55:07 AM
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Unfortunately, it does happen. In my case it was for a big Clemson University football game.  Here is an article I found  about the same issue http://www.kgw.com/mb/news/investigations/hotels-canceling-reservations-for-eclipse-viewing-jacking-prices/424326842




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Oh I believe it happens, what I'm saying is you gotta fight back and I'm sure someone at corporate will do something about it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on April 03, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
Are we still thinking May 2nd for Hotelpocalypse, given what we know about the Early Bird Sale and the timing with this weekend's Open Reg Sale?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 03, 2017, 10:56:56 AM
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No one needs to stay downtown. I've been lucky enough to get badges the past few years, but I always plan on going even if I am not lucky enough in any particular year. I love to stay downtown, and would love to do it even if I can't get into the convention.

It's ABSOLUTELY better in my opinion to stay downtown.  There's always someone that acts as if I am wrong for saying it, but the trip is better when you are closer.  I have stayed in all of the varied places over the years and downtown is just better in so many ways. 

Now if your argument is that you can stay further away and still make a go of it, yes that's true, but for me there was a lot of time wasting.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: fruitflan on April 03, 2017, 12:46:53 PM
So I was one of those people that got in on the Groupon OMNI hotel sale a few weeks back (only Wed and Sun were available). I had a few questions:

1. Would my odds be better if I only tried to get Thurs-Sat rooms in the Hotelpocalypse?
2. If so, would OMNI be able to combine the room reso so I don't have to migrate to a different room several times during the con?

I've been lucky enough to be able to get other downtown hotels the past few years but never tried for the Omni, so I don't know what my chances are if I tried for all of Thur - Sun.

Thx!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 03, 2017, 01:15:45 PM
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So I was one of those people that got in on the Groupon OMNI hotel sale a few weeks back (only Wed and Sun were available). I had a few questions:

1. Would my odds be better if I only tried to get Thurs-Sat rooms in the Hotelpocalypse?
2. If so, would OMNI be able to combine the room reso so I don't have to migrate to a different room several times during the con?

I've been lucky enough to be able to get other downtown hotels the past few years but never tried for the Omni, so I don't know what my chances are if I tried for all of Thur - Sun.

Thx!
The Omni doesn't combine the registrations, but they can usually accommodate you so you don't have to change rooms.  Just make sure that you are booked into the same type of room for all nights.

As far as I know, the Omni doesn't have a minimum stay requirement for SDCC so you should be able to just try for the extra nights you need.
Of course, if you don't want to change hotels, you may want to at least try for all the nights you want during the hotel sale and then trim the stay later if you need to.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on April 04, 2017, 02:22:39 PM
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So I was one of those people that got in on the Groupon OMNI hotel sale a few weeks back (only Wed and Sun were available). I had a few questions:

1. Would my odds be better if I only tried to get Thurs-Sat rooms in the Hotelpocalypse?
2. If so, would OMNI be able to combine the room reso so I don't have to migrate to a different room several times during the con?

I've been lucky enough to be able to get other downtown hotels the past few years but never tried for the Omni, so I don't know what my chances are if I tried for all of Thur - Sun.

Thx!

Your odds wouldn't necessarily be better because Thur-Sat are the high demand nights.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 04, 2017, 02:33:46 PM
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Your odds wouldn't necessarily be better because Thur-Sat are the high demand nights.

I totally agree with MarvelGurl. I actually want to throw this caveat in. I think having booked Wednesday and Sunday, makes things harder in my mind.  One, you HAVE to pretty much get Omni, or it means you have to change rooms DURING SDCC. That is the worst timing for stuff like that. Two, I can't say for sure, none of us can, but I wonder if just choosing Thursday-Sunday will negatively impact your chances in the lottery. Sure you can do what someone suggested, apply for Wednesday-Monday, and then change dates later, but to me that's so unfair to others who actually want all those dates. I just don't know how they work the lottery for people who want some but not all the dates of SDCC.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 04, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
I've booked Wednesday through Saturday through the lottery at both MGH and Bayfront. Both hotels had no problem combining my reservations that I already made for other nights at the same hotel. I've done this three years in a row without having to switch rooms. I'm not bragging; I'm just saying I think we'll find most hotels accommodating (pun intended).


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: BadWolf on April 05, 2017, 09:47:21 AM
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Are we still thinking May 2nd for Hotelpocalypse, given what we know about the Early Bird Sale and the timing with this weekend's Open Reg Sale?

5/2 is the speculation I've heard around as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on April 05, 2017, 11:52:07 AM
I am going to put in for the morning off for May 2nd. I can always cancel it but there is no way I can do this at work.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mdla on April 05, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
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I am going to put in for the morning off for May 2nd. I can always cancel it but there is no way I can do this at work.
That day is literally the start of the finals period for me  :'(... gonna be a bumpy couple of weeks! Haha
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on April 05, 2017, 08:31:15 PM
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That day is literally the start of the finals period for me  :'(... gonna be a bumpy couple of weeks! Haha
Ouch, that is really bad. Feel for you.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: takit0 on April 06, 2017, 09:09:01 PM
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Source: http://sdccblog.com/2017/01/san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2017-set-for-april-6/

We have confirmed with the Comic-Con hotel sale vendor, onPeak (who merged with Travel Planners), that the General Hotel Sale will take place on Thursday, April 6, 2017 - and while we couldn’t confirm a time, the sale historically happens at 9AM PT/12PM ET. There’s no official word from Comic-Con International, so it’s possible that the date could change (and it’s interesting to note that the sale is moving from a traditional Tuesday date to a Thursday one) — but as of now, onPeak is able to confirm the April 6 date for the San Diego Comic-Con General Hotel Sale.

Well now we know for sure that this was the wrong date. It's unfortunate. I was really looking forward to having my room secured by this time. At least we know that it's roughly a month away!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 06, 2017, 10:21:48 PM
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Well now we know for sure that this was the wrong date. It's unfortunate. I was really looking forward to having my room secured by this time. At least we know that it's roughly a month away!

Yeah, it was pretty obvious that date wasn't going to happen when open reg was announced to be in 'early to mid' April!
Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: takit0 on April 07, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
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Yeah, it was pretty obvious that date wasn't going to happen when open reg was announced to be in 'early to mid' April!

I figured as much, but there's no telling what CCI might do. They've been so unpredictable this year!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jazzyj on April 07, 2017, 08:17:54 AM
I know there was some speculation last year that if you were working with somebody during the hotel sale but used the same address (i.e. same family, couples, housemates, etc.), your form was considered a duplicate. There was also some speculation during last year's sale that sharing the same wi-fi network also marked one of the forms as duplicates. Does anyone have confirmation on either of these? Thanks!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 07, 2017, 08:33:38 AM
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I know there was some speculation last year that if you were working with somebody during the hotel sale but used the same address (i.e. same family, couples, housemates, etc.), your form was considered a duplicate. There was also some speculation during last year's sale that sharing the same wi-fi network also marked one of the forms as duplicates. Does anyone have confirmation on either of these? Thanks!
You've got to love speculation.  Half the country is probably still on a wifi network named linksys.  Besides, how would they know what wifi network someone was connected to?

The long answer:
I don't think anyone really pinpointed the exact flags that triggered duplicate requests, there were way too many rumors and falsenews reports floating around at the time.
The smart money is on the simple things that are easily compared, e-mail address and phone number.
Even names would be difficult because there are so many people in the world with identical names.

The short answer:
We don't really know.  You have to trust your instincts.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 07, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
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You've got to love speculation.  Half the country is probably still on a wifi network named linksys.  Besides, how would they know what wifi network someone was connected to?

The long answer:
I don't think anyone really pinpointed the exact flags that triggered duplicate requests, there were way too many rumors and falsenews reports floating around at the time.
The smart money is on the simple things that are easily compared, e-mail address and phone number.
Even names would be difficult because there are so many people in the world with identical names.

The short answer:
We don't really know.  You have to trust your instincts.

I think the previous person meant IP Address, not the same wifi network. They can't detect what your wifi network is, but they can detect if you and someone else are on the same IP Address however.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 07, 2017, 10:56:37 AM
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I think the previous person meant IP Address, not the same wifi network. They can't detect what your wifi network is, but they can detect if you and someone else are on the same IP Address however.
I think you are correct.

As far as the IP address, excluding duplicate IP's could possibly eliminate anyone connecting from a college or commercial campus, or from a Starbuck's, an airport, a corporation, etc.
I mean they could do that, but I doubt they would.

Hopefully, this year, they will clarify what the criteria will be.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jazzyj on April 08, 2017, 12:09:32 AM
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I think you are correct.

As far as the IP address, excluding duplicate IP's could possibly eliminate anyone connecting from a college or commercial campus, or from a Starbuck's, an airport, a corporation, etc.
I mean they could do that, but I doubt they would.

Hopefully, this year, they will clarify what the criteria will be.

LOL definitely meant to say IP address! Hopefully duplicate IPs wouldn't be an issue since I would need to do the hotel sale during work and I think I overheard someone saying that they'll be going to Comic-Con too. I just hope OnPeak and CCI manage this year's hotel sale better
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: monkeyluck on April 08, 2017, 05:18:34 AM
Anyone know when Early Bird will finish?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 08, 2017, 06:37:57 AM
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Anyone know when Early Bird will finish?

Edit: Early Bird rates are available through May 1st.

Usually closes the day before General Hotel Sale starts
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on April 08, 2017, 08:57:04 AM
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That day is literally the start of the finals period for me  :'(... gonna be a bumpy couple of weeks! Haha

Same here, I'm super upset about it. If it's in early May it's likely I can't skip a class for the sale
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 08, 2017, 12:12:10 PM
Unless something magically comes up between now and SDCC, looks like i'm staying by the airport this year.

I'll get downtown one year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on April 08, 2017, 12:29:38 PM
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Unless something magically comes up between now and SDCC, looks like i'm staying by the airport this year.

I'll get downtown one year.

The downtown sale hasn't happened quite yet, if you'd like to hold out for that
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 08, 2017, 12:31:58 PM
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The downtown sale hasn't happened quite yet, if you'd like to hold out for that

I know :) But it is a literal lottery, i prefer having something locked in.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on April 08, 2017, 12:33:11 PM
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I know :) But it is a literal lottery, i prefer having something locked in.

Haha, I can agree with you there! The pre-sale hotels aren't all that bad for having that peace of mind locked in
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: highgiant on April 08, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
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Haha, I can agree with you there! The pre-sale hotels aren't all that bad for having that peace of mind locked in

the tension build up while you're waiting is half the fun :P!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 08, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
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Haha, I can agree with you there! The pre-sale hotels aren't all that bad for having that peace of mind locked in
True, and i nearly went for the Sheraton by the airport, but snagged something slightly cheaper at the Ramada nearby.

Flights are all booked, so just need to wait for Pro reg, and good to go :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 08, 2017, 02:36:15 PM
I hope the sale isn't until after May 9 (I'm going to be in A ship  on the Mediterranean for 10 days).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nvj29 on April 08, 2017, 06:59:15 PM
If I didn't need to pay in full, I would love to book in the early bird sale, but paying in full is to much right now.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Cajnca559 on April 09, 2017, 07:42:22 AM
And so it begins lol
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chungerrr on April 09, 2017, 06:42:23 PM
This will be my first time trying the hotel lottery and Im terrified o_0 Im flying in from New York and already bought my plane tickets (non-refundable). Is there a possibility for me to get shut out of the hotel lottery completely and be left without a room? Im hoping that I would at least get something. I've heard conflicting reports about this though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 09, 2017, 06:44:14 PM
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This will be my first time trying the hotel lottery and Im terrified o_0 Im flying in from New York and already bought my plane tickets (non-refundable). Is there a possibility for me to get shut out of the hotel lottery completely and be left without a room? Im hoping that I would at least get something. I've heard conflicting reports about this though.

There's absolutely the possibility of being shut out. I can say for certain because it has happened to me.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 09, 2017, 06:47:01 PM
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This will be my first time trying the hotel lottery and Im terrified o_0 Im flying in from New York and already bought my plane tickets (non-refundable). Is there a possibility for me to get shut out of the hotel lottery completely and be left without a room? Im hoping that I would at least get something. I've heard conflicting reports about this though.
If you want to make 100% sure you get a room, you can sign up for one of the presale rooms available right now. From the reviews I've seen in this thread, there are many decent options even if they're not downtown.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on April 09, 2017, 08:28:09 PM
Pretty sure mission valley had options after lotto last year
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 10, 2017, 02:41:20 AM
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This will be my first time trying the hotel lottery and Im terrified o_0 Im flying in from New York and already bought my plane tickets (non-refundable). Is there a possibility for me to get shut out of the hotel lottery completely and be left without a room? Im hoping that I would at least get something. I've heard conflicting reports about this though.

Generally, Mission Valley has hotels that are left after. Just pay attention to when the "second" sale goes up, allowing you to book hotels through CCI after the company has time to process the initial bookings and cancels. I think there were actually downtown hotels that ended up being released during the second sale, but don't count on that because there seemed to be.... issues with last year's lotto.

Another option is the non-refundable early bird sale, that's going on right now, if you don't want to take the chance.
Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TravT77 on April 10, 2017, 03:20:59 AM
I have a room booked in Mission Valley. Are there usually any downtown rooms in the General Housing sale that could compete with the pricing in Mission Valley? I figure they will still be more expensive even in the "sale".

I didn't book the Early Bird (I could cancel if lottery pans out) so I'm paying $260/night.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 10, 2017, 05:16:13 AM
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Are there usually any downtown rooms in the General Housing sale that could compete with the pricing in Mission Valley? I figure they will still be more expensive even in the "sale".

I didn't book the Early Bird (I could cancel if lottery pans out) so I'm paying $260/night.


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Almost certainly no. Unless you get incredibly lucky.
The one i currently have booked is $225 a night, via Booking.com
There are cheaper ones that are equidistant from the airport, via the Early Bird sale, but you'd be locked in (non refundable)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 10, 2017, 06:06:00 AM
This post from last year shows what was available through onPeak about 3 weeks prior to SDCC 2016 including pricing for all the hotels and rooms.
Prices usually go up about 5% each year.

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5301.msg171199#msg171199 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5301.msg171199#msg171199)

This was after the end of the waitlist sale late into the open hotel sale.

Here is a summary of what was still available as of 1PM PDT on June 30, 2016.

Thu night: 481 rooms available, 25 downtown.
Fri night: 355 rooms available, 0 downtown.
Sat night: 443 rooms available, 23 downtown.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 10, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
Generally, if you're willing to be out of downtown, you can find a room, even within a month of the con. But if you're willing to be out of downtown, the best prices and the most security come from the Early Bird Sale. The hotel lottery is really only for people going for downtown rooms.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 10, 2017, 10:15:44 AM
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This post from last year shows what was available through onPeak about 3 weeks prior to SDCC 2016 including pricing for all the hotels and rooms.
Prices usually go up about 5% each year.

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5301.msg171199#msg171199 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=5301.msg171199#msg171199)

This was after the end of the waitlist sale late into the open hotel sale.

Here is a summary of what was still available as of 1PM PDT on June 30, 2016.

Thu night: 481 rooms available, 25 downtown.
Fri night: 355 rooms available, 0 downtown.
Sat night: 443 rooms available, 23 downtown.


I'd suggest this is a good starting point, but I wouldn't take these numbers all that seriously. Last year was a huge debacle and the system had changed significantly. I think that then affected what was available. If this year is more the norm, I doubt there will be as many rooms available, and I definitely doubt any downtown will be left. Especially on a Saturday.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 10, 2017, 10:30:11 AM
Don't forget there is a new hotel this year, The Pendry.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 10, 2017, 10:49:05 AM
IF OnPeak manages to navigate their own system correctly, I agree that there will probably not be any downtown rooms available after the lottery (unless one comes up for you on the waitlist, but that's still technically through the lottery).

That's a big IF, though, considering neither OnPeak nor Travel Planners (OnPeak's predecessor/subsidiary/whatever) has never managed to run the hotel sale competently for more than one year in a row. (Some might even say that's being too generous.)

Although last year was a mess, so it's possible this year will work well, just to keep us all guessing.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hikanteki on April 10, 2017, 11:49:29 AM
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I have a room booked in Mission Valley. Are there usually any downtown rooms in the General Housing sale that could compete with the pricing in Mission Valley?

Are there -- yes. Will they be easy to get -- absolutely not. Last year, the Bristol, Sofia, Residence Inn, Hampton Inn, Four Points, Doubletree, Horton Grand, Westin, Wyndham, and Best Western Plus Bayside were all under $250/night (before taxes/fees.) However, most of them are still around ~1 mile out.

Here is last year's list: https://www.comic-con.org/sites/default/files/forms/cci2016_hotellist_v1a.pdf
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: CaseyJones14 on April 10, 2017, 11:51:54 AM
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Don't forget there is a new hotel this year, The Pendry.

Ohhh I totally forgot about that! Do you know how many rooms they have? I doubt it'll make things easier for the other hotels, but more rooms is always nice.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 10, 2017, 12:35:18 PM
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Ohhh I totally forgot about that! Do you know how many rooms they have? I doubt it'll make things easier for the other hotels, but more rooms is always nice.
Check their website.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 10, 2017, 01:35:45 PM
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Ohhh I totally forgot about that! Do you know how many rooms they have? I doubt it'll make things easier for the other hotels, but more rooms is always nice.

317 rooms
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sisustylegirl on April 10, 2017, 03:24:08 PM
I am always surprised at how many people get downtown rooms in the lottery who don't want them!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chungerrr on April 10, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
Alright - you guys scared me into securing a mission valley hotel through haha. Thanks for the insight everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ripresa on April 10, 2017, 06:38:26 PM
When is the hotel lottery? I don't see it on the website.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on April 10, 2017, 07:09:50 PM
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When is the hotel lottery? I don't see it on the website.

The date hasn't been announced yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 10, 2017, 07:48:45 PM
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The date hasn't been announced yet.

And we are all waiting breathlessly!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 10, 2017, 09:16:34 PM
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IF OnPeak manages to navigate their own system correctly, I agree that there will probably not be any downtown rooms available after the lottery (unless one comes up for you on the waitlist, but that's still technically through the lottery).

That's a big IF, though, considering neither OnPeak nor Travel Planners (OnPeak's predecessor/subsidiary/whatever) has never managed to run the hotel sale competently for more than one year in a row. (Some might even say that's being too generous.)

Although last year was a mess, so it's possible this year will work well, just to keep us all guessing.

I've never had a problem with them except last year and that was due to the stupid waiting room. I never got out until nearly an hour later, which I knew meant I wouldn't get jack. To me a "random" waiting room is never truly random.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 10, 2017, 09:29:54 PM
[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] I've been mostly lucky as well, but that doesn't mean there haven't been problems. Prior to last year's mess, there was the "bad form" year, a couple of years where the form just didn't load for some people, years where despite picking an option for downtown/waitlist/no waitlist, you were assigned seemingly at random, years where the system crashed entirely, etc.

Obviously there will always be glitches/errors for a small amount of people even in the best systems, but Travel Planners/OnPeak has had very few years where they even seemed to be successfully executing their own system.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chachime45 on April 10, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
This is my fourth time at SDCC but I've never done the lottery. Always picked up my room early ... last year stayed in Mission Valley and was OK with that.

If I try for a downtown hotel in the lottery and get shut out, what are the odds I will be able to get a Mission Valley room after the lottery?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 10, 2017, 11:05:05 PM
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I have a room booked in Mission Valley. Are there usually any downtown rooms in the General Housing sale that could compete with the pricing in Mission Valley? I figure they will still be more expensive even in the "sale".

I didn't book the Early Bird (I could cancel if lottery pans out) so I'm paying $260/night.

(Bold mine.)

I think, unless you get The Sofia or The Bristol (which are around the cheaper per night hotels downtown) probably not. They're pretty popular because the pricing I think. So you need to get a fair bit of luck to grab one. Actually, I'll grab the price list and see. These aren't the only ones that are possibly comparable, especially in comparison for $260/night in MV.

Last year:
- The Bristol Hotel: base $205 per night (7 blocks from Con. Center)
- The Sofia Hotel: $225/$245 per night (9 blocks)
- Downtown Doubletree: $209/$219 per night (1 mile)
- Best Western Bayside, Downtown: $195/$200 per night (1 mile)
- Hampton Inn, Downtown: $205/$215 per night (0.9 mile)

Of course it depends on if you're booking outside the sale prices and what hotels you're looking at in Mission Valley, and how many people you're booking for a single room. If you want to look at more of 2016's pricing: SAN DIEGO COMIC CON — 2016 HOTEL MAP & PRICE LIST (http://friendsofcc.com/2016/03/30/san-diego-comic-con-2016-hotel-map-price-list/)

Edit: Just saw that someone beat me to the answer, oops. I don't know if I didn't register it when browsing or what, but oh well.

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This is my fourth time at SDCC but I've never done the lottery. Always picked up my room early ... last year stayed in Mission Valley and was OK with that.

If I try for a downtown hotel in the lottery and get shut out, what are the odds I will be able to get a Mission Valley room after the lottery?

There are almost always MV hotels available after the initial lotto. Just pay attention to the date that hotel bookings reopen, after a few weeks to cancel rooms, solve problems, etc. that may pop up.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 10, 2017, 11:47:12 PM
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[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] I've been mostly lucky as well, but that doesn't mean there haven't been problems. Prior to last year's mess, there was the "bad form" year, a couple of years where the form just didn't load for some people, years where despite picking an option for downtown/waitlist/no waitlist, you were assigned seemingly at random, years where the system crashed entirely, etc.

Obviously there will always be glitches/errors for a small amount of people even in the best systems, but Travel Planners/OnPeak has had very few years where they even seemed to be successfully executing their own system.

Oh I absolutely agree. I've read and heard those stories. I believe them all. I'm just saying, me personally, like yourself, I've been quite lucky. The year with the bad form, mine loaded just fine.  I filled it out in about 45 seconds, and got our #1, which was Omni. That's 45 seconds without using ANY autofill. (I work in the computer industry and can type about 120 wpm) Autofill tends to mess me up actually. I'm sure thats why I'm biased and preferred the old system. I've bought concert tickets using the waiting room, helped people last year with SDCC badges, and on and on, and have yet to ever find a reason to like that stupid waiting room.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 11, 2017, 06:00:12 AM
The thing is, the waiting rooms works well with badge sale. Why not have the waiting room for hotels and then go into LIVE BOOKING? No more waiting for days and you know exactly what you're getting. And if what you want is not there, YOU choose the replacement.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RustyPonds on April 11, 2017, 06:56:20 AM
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The thing is, the waiting rooms works well with badge sale. Why not have the waiting room for hotels and then go into LIVE BOOKING? No more waiting for days and you know exactly what you're getting. And if what you want is not there, YOU choose the replacement.

Because...well...how would they continue to stress us out then?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 11, 2017, 07:13:25 AM
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The thing is, the waiting rooms works well with badge sale. Why not have the waiting room for hotels and then go into LIVE BOOKING? No more waiting for days and you know exactly what you're getting. And if what you want is not there, YOU choose the replacement.

Because it would make too much sense.

I think the real reason is that the hotel system is outsourced and the travel service company just doesn't want to do that.

My other question is that if the selection is random anyway, what's the point of making us go online and be selected.  Why not just have us fill out our request in a leisurely matter and submit them?  After the deadline, they do their randomization and let us know if we were lucky or not.

When I do the ATX Festival, they do their "fast pass" system that way.  We submit our request for panels by a deadline and they select them randomly.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 11, 2017, 09:08:14 AM
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The thing is, the waiting rooms works well with badge sale. Why not have the waiting room for hotels and then go into LIVE BOOKING? No more waiting for days and you know exactly what you're getting. And if what you want is not there, YOU choose the replacement.

I regret that I have but one like to give this.

And also, I agree with [member=3221]dkd[/member] as well. If it IS random and it is NOT live booking, then there is absolutely no reason for everyone to have to fill out the form simultaneously. It just adds an element of panic that nobody needs.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chachime45 on April 11, 2017, 09:10:54 AM
Would it be dumb/is it possible to throw down $900 in early bird to lock in four nights at a Mission Valley hotel and then try under my wife's name to get a hotel downtown? I'm already spending enough just bringing my family out to San Diego that the extra money would be worth it for peace of mind.

Man, this makes me angsty!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 11, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
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Would it be dumb/is it possible to throw down $900 in early bird to lock in four nights at a Mission Valley hotel and then try under my wife's name to get a hotel downtown? I'm already spending enough just bringing my family out to San Diego that the extra money would be worth it for peace of mind.

Man, this makes me angsty!

If you throw down that amount in Early Bird sale, then you can't get it back. They are non refundable as far as I can see.
The Early Bird sale options are for the peace of mind of knowing you at least have somewhere to stay, especially if you are not fussed about being downtown. Hence why they urge you not to book them until you have a badge. You don't get a refund if you cancel.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chachime45 on April 11, 2017, 09:24:56 AM
I wouldn't even mind losing the $900 ... I was wondering if it would make me ineligible for the lottery or if it was simply dumb because I could almost certainly pick up the same type of hotel after the lottery for the same kind of price.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mel on April 11, 2017, 09:44:12 AM
I think everyone can pick up SOME hotel after the sale. There's always rooms left in Mission Valley and if you don't like those, just look along the trolley line south down in Chula Vista, National City, ect and there will be a ton of cheap rooms there and you can trolley in to Con. No one will end up homeless, there will be something. San Diego has plenty of hotels and motels, the fight is just for the ones directly downtown.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 11, 2017, 10:16:32 AM
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The thing is, the waiting rooms works well with badge sale. Why not have the waiting room for hotels and then go into LIVE BOOKING? No more waiting for days and you know exactly what you're getting. And if what you want is not there, YOU choose the replacement.

As long as I can get my hotel, and we're already doing the waiting room, I would be for live booking. My best guess why it's not done however, is pretty simple. Whether I'm right or wrong, I don't know though. But I think, so many people will be trying for the same hotels (since there's only so many) at the same time, that there's bound to be some overbooking, and that's a hassle I doubt they want to deal with. Plus having the kind of servers that can handle that many people trying to get hotels all at once that involve an actual system, would be hard. I've had Ticketmaster slow down to a crawl due to so many people trying for tickets at once. I don't think SDCC can have the capacity nor want to spend the money needed to make live booking work. The only other way to potentially prevent overbooking, is letting smaller amounts of people enter to reserve their hotel. But in that case, it'll take hours to finish everybody.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 11, 2017, 10:21:33 AM
I don't think many people would have a problem with it taking hours if it meant that you got to pick your own room out of what was still available (and if they did it on a weekend, like badge sales). Queue-It (the waiting room company that OnPeak used last year), even has a function that tells you approximately how long you'll have to wait, and an option to get an email alert shortly before when the system projects you'll get in, so that you don't even have to sit there the whole time waiting.

Also: knowing what hotel I have within six hours of hotel sales opening >>>>> knowing what hotel I have 48-72 hours after hotel sales opening.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 11, 2017, 10:40:07 AM
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I don't think many people would have a problem with it taking hours if it meant that you got to pick your own room out of what was still available (and if they did it on a weekend, like badge sales). Queue-It (the waiting room company that OnPeak used last year), even has a function that tells you approximately how long you'll have to wait, and an option to get an email alert shortly before when the system projects you'll get in, so that you don't even have to sit there the whole time waiting.

Also: knowing what hotel I have within six hours of hotel sales opening >>>>> knowing what hotel I have 48-72 hours after hotel sales opening.

6 hours vs 48-72 hours is negligible. It won't affect anything in the end. I'd rather wait 72 hours if it meant not having the potential to overbook a certain hotel. Again, we may never know the rationale behind OnPeak and their system. But like I said, to me, finding out in 6 hours vs say 72 just doesn't make a difference, if it means less problems.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 11, 2017, 10:47:27 AM
Historically, though, that time lag has never meant less problems.

Also, besides the time factor (which I DO find significant, but obviously that's a personal opinion that can differ among reasonable people), there's also the peace of mind inherent in getting to make the final choice myself. None of my top 6 available? That's a bummer, but at least I get to choose my next-most-desirable option, instead of it being randomly chosen by people who neither know nor care what my preferences are.

And if time/server capacity/etc is really the limiting factor... then go the other way. Take a week. Take two. Truly randomize the entries and take your time and get it right. That's a fair way to do it. But then also don't make everyone jump on the computer at the same moment, waste time in the waiting room, and pound out their preferences simultaneously. Give everybody a week to put in the requests, and then, sort at your leisure.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mel on April 11, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
They could do it kinda like Ace does with parking now. Everyone fill out a from to enter the lottery. Assign people randomly to group sizes the system could handle and allow each group access at a specific day and time to live book what is there.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Oracle on April 11, 2017, 11:16:19 AM
I have to admit, I went with one of the Early Bird hotel deals.  I simply don't have the nerves for that kind of lottery.  I can live with being in Mission Valley.  As an introvert who sometimes gets claustrophobic in crowds, my hotel room is probably more important to me than for most people.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 11, 2017, 12:24:07 PM
I don't blame you, Oracle. There have been times when I too opted out of the hotel lottery because it was just too much stress. It just kills me how complicated they make this entire process when it could be so much simpler!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: CaseyJones14 on April 11, 2017, 12:31:54 PM
This will be my first time participating in the hotel lottery. Every other year I've been too scared and have taken full advantage of the Early Bird sale. I will say the horror stories seemed worse 2-3 years ago, but I'm still shaking in my boots!  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 11, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
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I don't blame you, Oracle. There have been times when I too opted out of the hotel lottery because it was just too much stress. It just kills me how complicated they make this entire process when it could be so much simpler!

I'm so happy every year to just get badges. Will my Con be much easier with my hotel of choice? No doubt about it. Will I stress during Hotelpocalypse? No doubt about it. But it's all gravy after getting a badge. Thanks for the help FoCC!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TravT77 on April 11, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
If you participate in the hotel lottery, are obligated to take a room, even if none of your picks are available? I've had trouble finding info on how it works.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 11, 2017, 01:16:53 PM
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If you participate in the hotel lottery, are obligated to take a room, even if none of your picks are available? I've had trouble finding info on how it works.


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No, you don't have to take a room if you don't want.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 11, 2017, 01:18:06 PM
[member=6814]TravT77[/member] No, if you participate in the lottery and don't like what they give you, you just don't put down the deposit, and after the deposit deadline passes your room expires and is returned to the pool of available rooms.

I'm not sure how the waitlist works, though. You might have to accept your initial room to remain on the waitlist? But someone else will have to speak to that, I've never tried the waitlist.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Oracle on April 11, 2017, 01:53:34 PM
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I'm so happy every year to just get badges. Will my Con be much easier with my hotel of choice? No doubt about it. Will I stress during Hotelpocalypse? No doubt about it. But it's all gravy after getting a badge. Thanks for the help FoCC!


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Oddly enough, I was completely not worried about getting a badge.  Seriously, I only went on because my husband was doing our taxes and I didn't really have anything else to do.  I figured I probably wouldn't get anything so I sat and read while I waited.  It was more of a whim than anything else.  No one was more shocked than I was when I ended up getting badges for all four days.  Then I began to stress out.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 11, 2017, 02:04:21 PM
I have a question about the Embassy Suites that wasn't mentioned in the hotel review section.
I booked a room directly with Hilton in what they are calling the "2 ROOM PREMIUM SUITE-2 DOUBLE BEDS-NONSMOKING".
From what I can tell these rooms are only on the second floor and have different amenities than their other rooms.

Upgraded Premium WiFi, Keurig Coffee Brewers, snacks and drinks
Upgraded amenities in our Premium Suites make for the best experience yet. The assortment of non-alcoholic drinks, snacks and K-Cups are replenished daily.
All of our suites include a full made-to-order breakfast and Complimentary Evening Reception featuring beer, wine, premium spirits, and light snacks at no extra charge.*
This premium suite features a separate living room, with sofa bed, and a bedroom with 2 double beds. Enjoy all the comforts of home with 2 HDTVs, a wet bar with refrigerator and microwave and a work/dining table.


I'm curious if anyone else has ever stayed in these rooms?  Just wondering what the real difference is.
Thanks.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jclemy on April 11, 2017, 09:13:30 PM
Town and Country is cheaper on booking.com than the presale. It ends up close to the same after "resort" fees (and parking if you use it) but has free cancellation. Here's the link: https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/town-and-country-resort.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaCeIAQKYATG4AQnIARHYAQPoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=4f3c410a9bcab50a5e97f7dccbe1edeb

I've used booking a bunch so I have a referral code that gives you money off ($20 I think): https://www.booking.com/s/jeff1926
*full disclosure, I get something if you use the code too (I think $20). If anyone is upset with me sharing the code I can delete this part but honestly I'm hoping this hotel ends up as a backup and you get your first choices in the lottery.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mel on April 11, 2017, 09:20:34 PM
I'd watch it with booking.com. Either last year or the year before last there was a bunch of drama with them cancelling a bunch of reservations people had made for hotels during SDCC.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jclemy on April 11, 2017, 09:24:06 PM
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I'd watch it with booking.com. Either last year or the year before last there was a bunch of drama with them cancelling a bunch of reservations people had made for hotels during SDCC.
That's good to know. Do you know what happened?

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on April 11, 2017, 09:57:40 PM
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That's good to know. Do you know what happened?

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IIRC it was the Hard Rock that one of the booking sites took reservations for that they weren't suppose to and then there was another booking site where people pre-paid for a hotel and same story as Hard Rock, the hotel wasn't available to be booked but that booking site ended up making arrangements with the people who had pre paid and it was 2 years ago this happened.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 12, 2017, 06:31:31 AM
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Town and Country is cheaper on booking.com than the presale. It ends up close to the same after "resort" fees (and parking if you use it) but has free cancellation. Here's the link: https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/town-and-country-resort.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaCeIAQKYATG4AQnIARHYAQPoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=4f3c410a9bcab50a5e97f7dccbe1edeb

I've used booking a bunch so I have a referral code that gives you money off ($20 I think): https://www.booking.com/s/jeff1926
*full disclosure, I get something if you use the code too (I think $20). If anyone is upset with me sharing the code I can delete this part but honestly I'm hoping this hotel ends up as a backup and you get your first choices in the lottery.

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Whoa! I've been keeping an eye on hotels in the area via Booking.com (love using them) and this is waaaay cheaper than i've ever seen it, even for Mission Valley hotels.

Good spot Jeff :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jclemy on April 12, 2017, 07:03:09 AM
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Whoa! I've been keeping an eye on hotels in the area via Booking.com (love using them) and this is waaaay cheaper than i've ever seen it, even for Mission Valley hotels.

Good spot Jeff :)
It was a lucky find. I was sad that the Days Inn was sold out already. Now Hotelpocalypse is less stressful.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 12, 2017, 08:50:09 AM
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It was a lucky find. I was sad that the Days Inn was sold out already. Now Hotelpocalypse is less stressful.

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Yeah. I'd grab it too if it wasn't just that bit too far for me. I got a good deal by the airport though so am all sorted.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 12, 2017, 09:26:07 AM
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IIRC it was the Hard Rock that one of the booking sites took reservations for that they weren't suppose to and then there was another booking site where people pre-paid for a hotel and same story as Hard Rock, the hotel wasn't available to be booked but that booking site ended up making arrangements with the people who had pre paid and it was 2 years ago this happened.

It was Hotwire IIRC, allowing people to book rooms at the Omni via their 'secret' rates. The difference is, Booking.com just left everyone hanging and eventually just said 'too bad'. Hotwire made it right, but rebooking everyone into hotels they wanted, even paying a lot more for rack rates that were outrageous. I booked 2 rooms at the Omni through this deal for $200-ish per night each. Hotwire ended up rebooking me at $900 per night each room (not kidding) at the Hilton Bayfront. They covered the difference. I was really impressed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chungerrr on April 12, 2017, 09:45:04 AM
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It was Hotwire IIRC, allowing people to book rooms at the Omni via their 'secret' rates. The difference is, Booking.com just left everyone hanging and eventually just said 'too bad'. Hotwire made it right, but rebooking everyone into hotels they wanted, even paying a lot more for rack rates that were outrageous. I booked 2 rooms at the Omni through this deal for $200-ish per night each. Hotwire ended up rebooking me at $900 per night each room (not kidding) at the Hilton Bayfront. They covered the difference. I was really impressed.

that's awful - so the people who went with Booking.com essentially had no place to stay?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 12, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
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that's awful - so the people who went with Booking.com essentially had no place to stay?

Yes. But fortunately, we on this board are savvy people, so the folks involved kept pressing booking.com for hotel confirmation numbers, eventually forcing booking.com to admit that they couldn't honor the room reservations. So they knew before the hotel lottery, and were able to participate and get a room that way. But (as I'm sure you can imagine) it was nerve-wracking!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 12, 2017, 10:55:36 AM
I haven't seen anyplace discussing flights so I'll just say check and recheck your flights too. The airline changed my flight so I was scheduled to leave from an airport 70 miles from my home instead of my local airport!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 12, 2017, 11:31:26 AM
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I haven't seen anyplace discussing flights so I'll just say check and recheck your flights too. The airline changed my flight so I was scheduled to leave from an airport 70 miles from my home instead of my local airport!

Whhhaaaaat? I know they can change the times of the flights, but the AIRPORT? Sheesh!

I guess the lesson this week (including what happened on United) is that airlines can jerk you around any which way and you don't have a whole lot of say about it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 12, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
They dropped my originating city and changed all the times. I was on the phone with customer service in India this morning. It took about 30 minutes to get rebooked but I'm afraid because they put on regional carriers!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 12, 2017, 12:57:39 PM
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They dropped my originating city and changed all the times. I was on the phone with customer service in India this morning. It took about 30 minutes to get rebooked but I'm afraid because they put on regional carriers!

That happened to my husband last year. He was booked on a flight out of Sarasota and the carrier stopped servicing that airport altogether. But the airline contacted him proactively and they set up alternate flights. He didn't have to learn about it after the fact and contact them.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on April 12, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
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It was Hotwire IIRC, allowing people to book rooms at the Omni via their 'secret' rates. The difference is, Booking.com just left everyone hanging and eventually just said 'too bad'. Hotwire made it right, but rebooking everyone into hotels they wanted, even paying a lot more for rack rates that were outrageous. I booked 2 rooms at the Omni through this deal for $200-ish per night each. Hotwire ended up rebooking me at $900 per night each room (not kidding) at the Hilton Bayfront. They covered the difference. I was really impressed.
Booking.com did offer me another hotel, but I don't even think it was downtown or on the same level as Hard Rock. And, if I took it, it could not be canceled. The original reservation could be canceled (and it was!).
I think you are okay with them for the hotels outside of downtown, but if it is downtown (especially one of the top 6), I would be wary.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: CHEYS671Guam on April 12, 2017, 04:49:38 PM
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Town and Country is cheaper on booking.com than the presale. It ends up close to the same after "resort" fees (and parking if you use it) but has free cancellation. Here's the link: https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/town-and-country-resort.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaCeIAQKYATG4AQnIARHYAQPoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=4f3c410a9bcab50a5e97f7dccbe1edeb

I've used booking a bunch so I have a referral code that gives you money off ($20 I think): https://www.booking.com/s/jeff1926
*full disclosure, I get something if you use the code too (I think $20). If anyone is upset with me sharing the code I can delete this part but honestly I'm hoping this hotel ends up as a backup and you get your first choices in the lottery.

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Thank you for sharing! Booked them, just in case I decide not to go through the madness with the lottery. This makes me feel so much better (mind and wallet, lol).  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tt7777 on April 12, 2017, 05:44:41 PM
Groupon has the Omni dates into July. However I tried to get in on Monday the 17th and it only goes to July 19 as a checkout date. 20th through the 23rd or 24th are blocked out, but it might still be a good deal.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jclemy on April 12, 2017, 10:05:02 PM
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Thank you for sharing! Booked them, just in case I decide not to go through the madness with the lottery. This makes me feel so much better (mind and wallet, lol).  ;D
Awesome! Glad it could help!

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ne0ven0m on April 13, 2017, 07:58:30 AM
First timer here. Snagged a Sunday only ticket (with hopes to return more days in 2018).

Snagged the Hilton Garden Inn in Old Town/Mission Valley because HHonors is running a double your points special. So I ended up getting a room for $170/night (taxes/fees included). Figure I won't do better than that, and I'll take my chances with the trolley.

Any feedback/advice for staying around this area and commuting to the convention center?

I plan on filling my Fri/Sat with offsite stuff and maybe a half day at the beach.  8)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 13, 2017, 08:32:32 AM
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First timer here. Snagged a Sunday only ticket (with hopes to return more days in 2018).

Snagged the Hilton Garden Inn in Old Town/Mission Valley because HHonors is running a double your points special. So I ended up getting a room for $170/night (taxes/fees included). Figure I won't do better than that, and I'll take my chances with the trolley.

Any feedback/advice for staying around this area and commuting to the convention center?

I plan on filling my Fri/Sat with offsite stuff and maybe a half day at the beach.  8)

You're a quick walk to the trolley station and the center of Old Town, where there a ton of delicious Mexican food restaurants. Make sure to buy some tortillas from the women selling them outside Cafe Coyote-delicious.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 13, 2017, 03:45:13 PM
Mission Valley Resort currently has a few rooms at around $153 USD a night on Booking.com. Link (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/mission-valley-resort.en-gb.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaCeIAQGYAS7CAQp3aW5kb3dzIDEwyAEM2AED6AEBkgIBeagCAw;sid=639e227c4a0ba568a01016e40702f577;aer=1;all_sr_blocks=4865103_88754146_0_2_0;checkin=2017-07-19;checkout=2017-07-23;dest_id=12225;dest_type=landmark;dist=0;highlighted_blocks=4865103_88754146_0_2_0;hpos=7;place_id=12225;place_id_lat=32.7048692123477;place_id_lon=-117.159587144852;place_id_ss=San%20Diego%20Convention%20centre;room1=A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=dc435a77b75ffa075376722e813ee96f1ee0c6bcX7;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl)

Some of the hotel Circle hotels may follow suit after this and Town &Country have dropped prices
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 16, 2017, 04:36:01 PM
There are still King rooms available at the Ramada near the Airport for around $237 a night on Booking.com

Link (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/ramada-limited-san-diego-airport.en-gb.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaCeIAQGYAS7CAQp3aW5kb3dzIDEwyAEM2AEB6AEB-AELkgIBeagCAw;sid=30caf63d033bfb21c4fc03372df1e5db;checkin=2017-07-19;checkout=2017-07-23;room1=A;homd=1;atlas_src=sr_iw_title)

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: wolfgirl1272 on April 16, 2017, 08:55:12 PM
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Mission Valley Resort currently has a few rooms at around $153 USD a night on Booking.com. Link (https://www.booking.com/hotel/us/mission-valley-resort.en-gb.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1DCAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaCeIAQGYAS7CAQp3aW5kb3dzIDEwyAEM2AED6AEBkgIBeagCAw;sid=639e227c4a0ba568a01016e40702f577;aer=1;all_sr_blocks=4865103_88754146_0_2_0;checkin=2017-07-19;checkout=2017-07-23;dest_id=12225;dest_type=landmark;dist=0;highlighted_blocks=4865103_88754146_0_2_0;hpos=7;place_id=12225;place_id_lat=32.7048692123477;place_id_lon=-117.159587144852;place_id_ss=San%20Diego%20Convention%20centre;room1=A;sb_price_type=total;srfid=dc435a77b75ffa075376722e813ee96f1ee0c6bcX7;type=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl)

Some of the hotel Circle hotels may follow suit after this and Town &Country have dropped prices
Be careful on those Mission Valley Resort rooms. I stayed there a couple of years ago and the rooms were outdated and had a funky smell.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 17, 2017, 05:55:42 AM
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Be careful on those Mission Valley Resort rooms. I stayed there a couple of years ago and the rooms were outdated and had a funky smell.

Most probably. Reviews of some of the Mission Valley hotels line up with what you stated. I've never stayed that far out, but i guess you get what you pay for as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Cajnca559 on April 19, 2017, 07:05:49 AM
Hey friends,
I can't remember, once the hotel lottery happens how many days do they give you to pay the 2 night deposit?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 19, 2017, 07:10:38 AM
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Hey friends,
I can't remember, once the hotel lottery happens how many days do they give you to pay the 2 night deposit?

I believe you have 3 days from when your results email arrives.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 19, 2017, 09:19:00 AM
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Hey friends,
I can't remember, once the hotel lottery happens how many days do they give you to pay the 2 night deposit?

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I believe you have 3 days from when your results email arrives.

It is, at least in the past, 72 hours from receipt of confirmation. If there is any issue with your card processing they usually give you an additional two-three days to figure it out. That happened with my group once because my friend mistyped her credit card for holding the res.

I pulled part of the initial e-mail from last year, 2016 (I have an e-mail that was only ever used for SDCC things that hit the lotto once, so it was easy to find.)

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Your request has been processed for Comic-Con 2016

Please review the information below regarding your hotel assignment for Comic-Con 2016. You were booked into this hotel because you selected this property as one of your top six hotel choices.

A deposit equal to two-night's room rate plus tax must be submitted within 72 hours or your reservation will be cancelled. Deposits can be paid with a credit card by accessing your reservation via the button below. Until your reservation is guaranteed with a deposit, it is subject to cancellation.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tt7777 on April 19, 2017, 03:34:02 PM
Any contemplation on when you think hotel lottery will begin this after earlybird?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 19, 2017, 05:36:21 PM
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Any contemplation on when you think hotel lottery will begin this after earlybird?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 21, 2017, 02:52:50 PM
Hotel sale has been posted at http://www.comic-con.org/cci/hotels (http://www.comic-con.org/cci/hotels).

Hotel Reservations Open Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 9:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time

Each year hotel rooms for Comic-Con sell out in a matter of minutes. We want to make the process as clear, and more importantly, as fair as it can be. Below is a guide to the process for opening day and everything you need to know.
The Email (April 21, 2017)

On April 21, 2017, an email will be sent from Comic-Con International to 2017 badge holders, which will include the link to the waiting room/hotel reservation request form. The form will not open until 9:00 AM PDT on April 26, 2017 and until then, the link will only grant you access to the waiting room one hour prior to the opening.

Opening the link prior to opening day will only take you to a page indicating you are in the right place and to check back on opening day.

...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 21, 2017, 02:58:05 PM
Some changes for this year...

Is there anything new this year that I should be aware of?
Based on the feedback Comic-Con received from the 2016 sale, two noticeable edits have been made to the request form that are
important to note:

1. You now have the option to request a maximum of 6 downtown hotels AND a maximum of 6 non-downtown hotels. You are only
required to submit 1 hotel choice
and will have the following options:
- Requesting only downtown hotels.
- Requesting only non-downtown hotels.
- Requesting a mix of both.

2. If none of your preferred hotel choices are available, you now have the following options to select from:
- Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate.
- Book me at a hotel with the lowest available rate, regardless of location.
- Book me at any hotel that is on the shuttle route, regardless of rate or location.
- If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 21, 2017, 03:02:49 PM
Browser check time again...

We encourage all guests to review the 2017 sample form prior to opening day to familiarize themselves with the options this year.
The sample form is available at: https://cci.onpeak.info/browsercheck (https://cci.onpeak.info/browsercheck).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dunkaroos on April 21, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
I find it interesting that the sample form now has a spot for Member ID, but it isn't a required field.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: thebeardednerd on April 21, 2017, 03:08:16 PM
Thanks for the heads up Steve D

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 21, 2017, 03:08:20 PM
Did anyone receive the email yet?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 21, 2017, 03:15:20 PM
Looks like they were able to keep the room prices the same as last year.

No Pendry Hotel, though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: thebeardednerd on April 21, 2017, 03:15:53 PM
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SchoolboyQ on April 21, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
Got the email. April 26 at 8AM
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on April 21, 2017, 03:20:24 PM
Now I know why my phone notifications keep going off! Time to get busy!!!! I need to head home and try to digest all of this!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 21, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
Waiting in STL
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 21, 2017, 03:21:12 PM
Just got it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SchoolboyQ on April 21, 2017, 03:23:37 PM
Comic-Con 2017 official hotels open Wednesday, April 26 at 9:00 AM PT. On April 26, the waiting room will open here (Waiting room URL) at 8:00 AM PT. Beginning at 9:00 AM PT, users will be granted access, in random order, to the official hotel request form.

Hotel List
http://www.comic-con.org/sites/default/files/forms/CCI-2017_HotelListL.pdf
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sweetiepiepen on April 21, 2017, 03:24:24 PM
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicskyline on April 21, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
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Forms will be processed based on the time at which a user was granted access to the form - NOT the time at which the form was submitted.

This from the email. Was it this way in previous years? I was wondering how it would work now that you only have to offer one hotel pick in order to submit the form, but I guess doing that loses its time advantage if priority is based on when you're let in to fill out the form, not when you submit it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 21, 2017, 03:29:45 PM
So, sort of like badge sale?

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 21, 2017, 03:30:09 PM
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This from the email. Was it this way in previous years? I was wondering how it would work now that you only have to offer one hotel pick in order to submit the form, but I guess doing that loses its time advantage if priority is based on when you're let in to fill out the form, not when you submit it.
Yes, this is the same as was last year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 21, 2017, 03:31:41 PM
Right in the middle of the work day. WELP.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicskyline on April 21, 2017, 03:31:53 PM
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Yes, this is the same as was last year.

Thanks! Honestly, there are so many different sales each year that I forget the specific rules for each!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on April 21, 2017, 03:32:01 PM
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I find it interesting that the sample form now has a spot for Member ID, but it isn't a required field.

maybe given priority in the draw?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 21, 2017, 03:32:40 PM
I don't like the wait time.  Some of us won't hear anything until the 15th... nearly 3 weeks after the sale. That's going to be agony.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170421/2b6ac66db024f9c61a5de49ec451131c.jpg)

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 21, 2017, 03:34:22 PM
In the past 3 hotel lotteries I've received my number 1 choice, always putting Thursday as arrival date.  This year I'm considering Wednesday as the arrival date.  Does anyone know if arrival/departure dates have affected chances of getting a room in the past?  I noticed Thursday thru Sunday are bolded on the sample form but wednesday is not.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 21, 2017, 03:35:10 PM
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I don't like the wait time.  Some of us won't hear anything until the 15th... nearly 3 weeks after the sale. That's going to be agony.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170421/2b6ac66db024f9c61a5de49ec451131c.jpg)

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And even the lucky first-batch people still have to wait 120 hours instead of 48 like last year. :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 21, 2017, 03:35:54 PM
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In the past 3 hotel lotteries I've received my number 1 choice, always putting Thursday as arrival date.  This year I'm considering Wednesday as the arrival date.  Does anyone know if arrival/departure dates have affected chances of getting a room in the past?  I noticed Thursday thru Sunday are bolded on the sample form but wednesday is not.

Probably bolded because those are the actual days of the convention. Preview Night isn't always officially considered.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 21, 2017, 03:36:52 PM
Pendry is blocked on their website for the Comic Con days so I wonder that means?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 21, 2017, 03:38:45 PM
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In the past 3 hotel lotteries I've received my number 1 choice, always putting Thursday as arrival date.  This year I'm considering Wednesday as the arrival date.  Does anyone know if arrival/departure dates have affected chances of getting a room in the past?  I noticed Thursday thru Sunday are bolded on the sample form but wednesday is not.

We always put Wednesday as our arrival day and someone in our group has gotten our #1 choice every year. We also get two rooms.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 21, 2017, 03:40:32 PM
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I don't like the wait time.  Some of us won't hear anything until the 15th... nearly 3 weeks after the sale. That's going to be agony.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170421/2b6ac66db024f9c61a5de49ec451131c.jpg)

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I mean, it'll suck to wait...But having a date to know by is way better than "at some random time in the future we may send out wait list stuff or a sorry note."
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 21, 2017, 03:41:40 PM
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And even the lucky first-batch people still have to wait 120 hours instead of 48 like last year. :(
And you don't have much time to cancel.

Cancellation Policy

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 21, 2017, 03:44:18 PM
I'm just happy they have clear dates for when things are happening regarding reservations going out. Even if the wait is a bit longer. This will probably keep the fiasco of late night and many days later reservations coming through that cause panic every year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: justboogie on April 21, 2017, 03:44:37 PM
I find this point interesting:
Forms will be processed based on the time at which a user was granted access to the form - NOT the time at which the form was submitted.

Fortune favors the first, as is always the case for anything SDCC related.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SandamnWs7 on April 21, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
I like it and I hate it. I like it cause now I don't have to rush through the process, I can take my time. I hate it cause if you aint first, you're last!!!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 21, 2017, 04:03:05 PM
SO IT BEGINS. Time to soak up this new info...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 21, 2017, 04:12:53 PM
Did anybody else notice that the Hotel info on the CCI website specifically says that "On April 21, 2017, an email will be sent from Comic-Con International to 2017 badge holders"?  I personally do not have a badge yet but I still got the email (I'm a trade pro so still waiting on our registration to open).  Did anyone else who is not a badge holder get the email?  Or are they actually trying to limit the sale to badge holders (and apparently professionals waiting for their badges)?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 21, 2017, 04:13:46 PM
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Did anybody else notice that the Hotel info on the CCI website specifically says that "On April 21, 2017, an email will be sent from Comic-Con International to 2017 badge holders"?  I personally do not have a badge yet but I still got the email (I'm a trade pro so still waiting on our registration to open).  Did anyone else who is not a badge holder get the email?  Or are they actually trying to limit the sale to badge holders (and apparently professionals waiting for their badges)?

Same here. Trade Pro but still got the email. Weird wording.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SandamnWs7 on April 21, 2017, 04:14:13 PM
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Did anybody else notice that the Hotel info on the CCI website specifically says that "On April 21, 2017, an email will be sent from Comic-Con International to 2017 badge holders"?  I personally do not have a badge yet but I still got the email (I'm a trade pro so still waiting on our registration to open).  Did anyone else who is not a badge holder get the email?  Or are they actually trying to limit the sale to badge holders (and apparently professionals waiting for their badges)?

I was about to post that. So that means none without a badge can get one?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SandamnWs7 on April 21, 2017, 04:17:19 PM
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Did anybody else notice that the Hotel info on the CCI website specifically says that "On April 21, 2017, an email will be sent from Comic-Con International to 2017 badge holders"?  I personally do not have a badge yet but I still got the email (I'm a trade pro so still waiting on our registration to open).  Did anyone else who is not a badge holder get the email?  Or are they actually trying to limit the sale to badge holders (and apparently professionals waiting for their badges)?

It's possible. I have asked a friend if he received the hotel email since he decided not to go this year and didn't try getting a badge. He said he has not received anything about the hotel sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gaeilstar on April 21, 2017, 04:25:31 PM
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Did anybody else notice that the Hotel info on the CCI website specifically says that "On April 21, 2017, an email will be sent from Comic-Con International to 2017 badge holders"?  I personally do not have a badge yet but I still got the email (I'm a trade pro so still waiting on our registration to open).  Did anyone else who is not a badge holder get the email?  Or are they actually trying to limit the sale to badge holders (and apparently professionals waiting for their badges)?

Same. Press not due and received the email.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 21, 2017, 04:25:55 PM
Aaaaaand nevermind.  I kept reading and under the "Is there anything new this year that I should be aware of?" heading, it says "You do not need a badge nor a Member ID to request a room."  That was short lived excitement.   >:(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: brand4d2 on April 21, 2017, 04:27:12 PM
Just told the boss that I'd be late to work next Wednesday
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SandamnWs7 on April 21, 2017, 04:31:43 PM
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Just told the boss that I'd be late to work next Wednesday

Just sent mine an email  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 21, 2017, 04:32:53 PM
Also just got the following email from CCI saying that Trade Pros should still participate in the hotel sale because we're GUARANTEED A BADGE THIS YEAR!  I've never had a problem getting one, but I can't ever remember them saying trade pro badges are guaranteed.  So that's a relief! 
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Dear Trade Professional,
 
Trade Professional online badge registration is coming soon! However, the Comic-Con 2017 hotel sale will be occurring even sooner, on Wednesday, April 26.  If you wish to purchase a hotel room for Comic-Con 2017, please plan to participate in this sale!  The OnPeak Travel website will recommend that you do not purchase a hotel room if you do not have a badge, but since you have been approved as a trade professional for Comic-Con 2017, you are guaranteed a badge. We strongly encourage you to purchase your hotel room on April 26.
 
Trade professional badge registration for Comic-Con 2017 will open in the next two weeks. You will receive an email with additional information regarding trade professional badge registration at a later date.
 
For more information, please visit www.comic-con.org/cci/professionals
 
Sincerely,
Professional Registration
Comic-Con International
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Emerald_Mom on April 21, 2017, 04:32:56 PM
Day off for me.... east coast and the sale is in the middle of the day... oh well
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 21, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
Ooooh got the same Trade Pro email as above.

Phew!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 21, 2017, 04:38:59 PM
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I find this point interesting:
Forms will be processed based on the time at which a user was granted access to the form - NOT the time at which the form was submitted.

Fortune favors the first, as is always the case for anything SDCC related.

I am extremely happy that they spelled it out explicitly this year.  Being able to list 6 downtown hotels and 6 other hotels is a nice addition.

Also, I think the new set of options is an improvement:

If none of my preferred hotel choices are available...
- Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate.
- Book me at a hotel with the lowest available rate, regardless of location.
- Book me at any hotel that is on the shuttle route, regardless of rate or location.
- If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 21, 2017, 04:46:01 PM
Are all the links in the emails unique anybody know?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on April 21, 2017, 04:50:38 PM
Put in for having half the day off on the 26th. I'm glad it goes by when you get in cause I am a slow typist, now I just have to hope for an early entry.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 04:51:07 PM
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Are all the links in the emails unique anybody know?

SDCC Blog posted they might be. I'm hoping they're not. Since I may have a problem. But I'd like to know the same thing!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hipchick on April 21, 2017, 04:51:41 PM
Leave it to CCI to find new ways to make the wait process more painful - if you aren't in the May 1 batch you could have to wait 2 weeks to find out your fate, ugh!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Deathbyjackal on April 21, 2017, 04:57:06 PM
I'm pumped!

I'm also having horrible flashbacks of me filling out the form last year...which looked exactly like this when I got into the actual form itself...

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/52HjuHsfVO69q/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on April 21, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
unofficial blog tweeting that links are unique and email only....do not share it
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 21, 2017, 05:14:10 PM
Ok so posssabilty links are individual for each email. If so and my friend is at work can she send me hers and I use it on a different browser and if she gets in quicker can I put my info in on her link ...so many variables
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: madfly on April 21, 2017, 05:16:58 PM

I don't think the codes are unique...my son's link is the same as mine!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 21, 2017, 05:19:04 PM
I sent a pic to my sdcc roomie she's gonna check hers when she can go see if links match
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mike223 on April 21, 2017, 05:19:34 PM
I am new to Comic Con. We only wnated to stay for two days. I noticed on the form just sent for hotels that there is no slot for requesting dates. Does that mean the hotel lottery only includes 4 day stays? Thanks.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 21, 2017, 05:21:19 PM
So I've tested from different IPs and browsers. What I get, no matter if I click on the onpeak link in the email or if I just type in the address, is the site redirecting to this address in full:

https://d2uzei1d71tmvn.cloudfront.net/comic/pre-cf9d5e5c5b457634c2e3ae84dddb3a12.html

Since I get that exact same result no matter what device or IP I check from, no matter how I get to the onpeak address, that's the result. Same for anybody else?

I ask only because I'm doubting that it's unique links for every person and think it's just going to be like last year, where unique session IDs are generated when you access the waiting room.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 05:21:55 PM
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So I've tested from different IPs and browsers. What I get, no matter if I click on the onpeak link in the email or if I just type in the address, is the site redirecting to this address in full:

https://d2uzei1d71tmvn.cloudfront.net/comic/pre-cf9d5e5c5b457634c2e3ae84dddb3a12.html

Since I get that exact same result no matter what device or IP I check from, no matter how I get to the onpeak address, that's the result. Same for anybody else?

I ask only because I'm doubting that it's unique links for every person and think it's just going to be like last year, where unique session IDs are generated when you access the waiting room.

Yes, that's the same result as mine. I just DOUBLE-CHECKED.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 21, 2017, 05:22:34 PM
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I am new to Comic Con. We only wnated to stay for two days. I noticed on the form just sent for hotels that there is no slot for requesting dates. Does that mean the hotel lottery only includes 4 day stays? Thanks.

Missed that. Yeah, I think there's supposed to be a date range on the form.

Also, for another data point, we have not received the hotel sale email. We don't have badges yet through the sale or trade/pro reg so it might be that the emails only went out to people in the system.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 21, 2017, 05:23:18 PM
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I am new to Comic Con. We only wnated to stay for two days. I noticed on the form just sent for hotels that there is no slot for requesting dates. Does that mean the hotel lottery only includes 4 day stays? Thanks.

There are spots on the sample form to select your arrival and departure dates sort of toward the bottom. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: DRWHO42 on April 21, 2017, 05:23:50 PM
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I am new to Comic Con. We only wnated to stay for two days. I noticed on the form just sent for hotels that there is no slot for requesting dates. Does that mean the hotel lottery only includes 4 day stays? Thanks.
If you have tickets for concurrent dates you enter your arrival and checkouts based on your need.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: quantumslip on April 21, 2017, 05:25:23 PM
What was the final word on people getting duplicate reservations canceled? What safeguards can we do while trying to reserve rooms? (In other words should we put random names in the occupant list other than maybe the requester?)

edit: sdccblog provided the answer: http://sdccblog.com/2016/04/cci-onpeak-offer-insight-to-san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2016/

Quote
We confirmed with onPeak that duplicate submissions were based on three factors: phone number, e-mail address, or a unique identifier associated with the user’s queue/waiting room session (likely the QueueID at the bottom of the waiting room).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Devorah on April 21, 2017, 05:26:52 PM
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I am new to Comic Con. We only wnated to stay for two days. I noticed on the form just sent for hotels that there is no slot for requesting dates. Does that mean the hotel lottery only includes 4 day stays? Thanks.

The option to select dates will show up after you select the number of rooms. :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on April 21, 2017, 05:42:46 PM
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I'm pumped!

I'm also having horrible flashbacks of me filling out the form last year...which looked exactly like this when I got into the actual form itself...

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/52HjuHsfVO69q/giphy.gif)
This is so great on so many levels. This was me during open reg when I got a session.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 21, 2017, 05:56:44 PM
I tried using someone else's link and mine, the URL is the exact same.  Don't think they're unique -- much like last year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angology on April 21, 2017, 06:08:29 PM
Calendar links added! Let me know if you have any suggestions for making them tidier.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 21, 2017, 06:40:10 PM
This will be my first time participating in the Hotel lottery. I have zero expectations
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 21, 2017, 07:11:34 PM
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I am extremely happy that they spelled it out explicitly this year.  Being able to list 6 downtown hotels and 6 other hotels is a nice addition.


I think the language on this says one or the other. You can list 6 downtown hotels OR 6 non-downtown OR 6 that is a mix. But you don't get to put in 12 hotels total.

Or maybe not? The FAQ language is weird. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

You now have the option to request a maximum of six (6) downtown hotels AND a maximum of six (6) non-downtown hotels. You are only required to submit one (1) hotel choice and will have the following options:
Requesting only downtown hotels.
Requesting only non-downtown hotels.
Requesting a mix of both.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 21, 2017, 07:20:59 PM
Oh my, I spend the afternoon gaming and Hotelpocalypse news blows up @[email protected]
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 07:21:27 PM
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I think the language on this says one or the other. You can list 6 downtown hotels OR 6 non-downtown OR 6 that is a mix. But you don't get to put in 12 hotels total.

Or maybe not? The FAQ language is weird. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

You now have the option to request a maximum of six (6) downtown hotels AND a maximum of six (6) non-downtown hotels. You are only required to submit one (1) hotel choice and will have the following options:
Requesting only downtown hotels.
Requesting only non-downtown hotels.
Requesting a mix of both.


It's 12 total. 6 of each. To confirm, you can check this by going to the practice form.

 "Select your preferred hotels in the sections below. A maximum of 6 hotel choices per section (Downtown and Non-Downtown) may be selected. PLEASE NOTE: Only 1 hotel selection is required to submit the form."

I tried it, and indeed, it allows 6 downtown, and then 6 elsewhere. If you want that many, that is.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Michael M on April 21, 2017, 07:21:44 PM
In addition to that, as you said, do they lump all 12 together?  Do the downtown hotels take precedence?

Also, reading this 'Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate': are the rates they refer to the rates through travel planners?  Or the "regular" rates that could be way expensive?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 21, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
The language on the sample form itself says: A maximum of 6 hotel choices per section (Downtown and Non-Downtown) may be selected.

Both places use "AND" rather than "OR", so to me that means you can pick 12 total if you want. Also, the practice form lets you select exactly six and six - it greys out once you've selected six in a section, but it doesn't grey out the other section.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 21, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
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It's 12 total. 6 of each. To confirm, you can check this by going to the practice form.

 "Select your preferred hotels in the sections below. A maximum of 6 hotel choices per section (Downtown and Non-Downtown) may be selected. PLEASE NOTE: Only 1 hotel selection is required to submit the form."

I tried it, and indeed, it allows 6 downtown, and then 6 elsewhere. If you want that many, that is.

Yes, I just went in and played with it too. Ok then. Definitely need to read over and over all the new material they put out this year and pay attention to every single word.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
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In addition to that, as you said, do they lump all 12 together?  Do the downtown hotels take precedence?

Also, reading this 'Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate': are the rates they refer to the rates through travel planners?  Or the "regular" rates that could be way expensive?

ANY rate. It's the same as the other option about booking into one of your choices, but at a higher rate. Basically, it can be anything. I've never done it, because that scares me. Giving them carte blanche.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 21, 2017, 07:38:12 PM
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ANY rate. It's the same as the other option about booking into one of your choices, but at a higher rate. Basically, it can be anything. I've never done it, because that scares me. Giving them carte blanche.

Yeah I've always been nervous about that before, but my downtown, back-up suite is very expensive per night (though honestly I'm willing to pay it lmao.) So I'll probably check it just to see if it helps because it very well might be below of my back-up still.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: justboogie on April 21, 2017, 07:40:36 PM
Two years ago they sent hotel confirmations randomly so for them to have set dates is great. Better to know  the date instead of checking your email every hour with no clue.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 07:41:15 PM
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Yeah I've always been nervous about that before, but my downtown, back-up suite is very expensive per night (though honestly I'm willing to pay it lmao.) So I'll probably check it just to see if it helps because it very well might be below of my back-up still.

I'm both impressed and scared by you. I couldn't do it. I LOVE SDCC. And have a big reason I HAVE to be there every year, but I wouldn't just pay anything. Though my top hotel did have rooms for $800 a night. If I had a vast amount of money, I may have considered it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 21, 2017, 07:48:59 PM
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I'm both impressed and scared by you. I couldn't do it. I LOVE SDCC. And have a big reason I HAVE to be there every year, but I wouldn't just pay anything. Though my top hotel did have rooms for $800 a night. If I had a vast amount of money, I may have considered it.

Well, of course it'd come down to what my groupmates said if it was insane. But we're looking at about $650, including taxes, per night even though we're only 4 blocks away, per night (I think) at the back-up. That's still under $500 each (but maybe just at that with parking.) So you never know, it could be an insanely expensive suite or just an upgraded room of sorts that could still be alright.

Besides, we have the back-up in the Gaslamp and we would still have the option to turn it down, and I suppose it's a bit of a shot if you don't get your ideal room in any of your choices. Idk, it could be interesting lol

Also, in the past I was still in uni or a grad program, and basically because I was in grad school and my income was limited when it happened, to an extent, Stanford paid for all my medical fees, outside of that insurance paid, for both surgeries and other proceedures, because it was a rare surgery and it's a teaching hospital, basically. So at least I don't have that to worry about and have a decent amount of savings etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 07:52:50 PM
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Well, of course it'd come down to what my groupmates said if it was insane. But we're looking at about $650, including taxes, per night even though we're only 4 blocks away, per night (I think) at the back-up. That's still under $500 each (but maybe just at that with parking.) So you never know, it could be an insanely expensive suite or just an upgraded room of sorts that could still be alright.

Besides, we have the back-up in the Gaslamp and we would still have the option to turn it down, and I suppose it's a bit of a shot if you don't get your ideal room in any of your choices. Idk, it could be interesting lol

For me, it's just my lady friend and I. Nobody else with us, so $650 a night per person is a LOT of money. I guess it also depends for you how many people are in your room. But for me, I can't imagine paying $325 a night. That's just so much. I'd rather stay away from Gaslamp then.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 21, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
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For me, it's just my lady friend and I. Nobody else with us, so $650 a night per person is a LOT of money. I guess it also depends for you how many people are in your room. But for me, I can't imagine paying $325 a night. That's just so much. I'd rather stay away from Gaslamp then.

We always have four people, and one of my friends, a couple years ago, said straight out "As long as it's under $550-$600 each for the hotel, I'm in."

I've been really lucky the past... three? years and have gotten my group's first choice in the lotto/etc. so it went nicely at least. Every year I manage it, my friends give me a new "Hotel Queen" title to add to my twitter lmao. Knock on wood that I don't curse myself for this year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 21, 2017, 08:30:09 PM
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I'm both impressed and scared by you. I couldn't do it. I LOVE SDCC. And have a big reason I HAVE to be there every year, but I wouldn't just pay anything. Though my top hotel did have rooms for $800 a night. If I had a vast amount of money, I may have considered it.

My back up is a mile out, so not the end of the world, but I would love to land something downtown. Fingers crossed for us all.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Michael M on April 21, 2017, 08:34:35 PM
Think I found something which is making me revisit my choices...from http://comic-con.org/cci/hotels (http://comic-con.org/cci/hotels)

You now have the option to request a maximum of six (6) downtown hotels AND a maximum of six (6) non-downtown hotels. You are only required to submit one (1) hotel choice and will have the following options:
- Requesting only downtown hotels.
- Requesting only non-downtown hotels.
- Requesting a mix of both.

This last line tells me that if you pick 6 + 6, there could be a chance where they put you in a non-downtown hotel, even if you picked a downtown hotel that's still available.  I mean ,without text or info that says what happens when you pic both, "mix" to me means they're all lumped together...I dunno...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2017, 09:36:05 PM
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Think I found something which is making me revisit my choices...from http://comic-con.org/cci/hotels (http://comic-con.org/cci/hotels)

You now have the option to request a maximum of six (6) downtown hotels AND a maximum of six (6) non-downtown hotels. You are only required to submit one (1) hotel choice and will have the following options:
- Requesting only downtown hotels.
- Requesting only non-downtown hotels.
- Requesting a mix of both.

This last line tells me that if you pick 6 + 6, there could be a chance where they put you in a non-downtown hotel, even if you picked a downtown hotel that's still available.  I mean ,without text or info that says what happens when you pic both, "mix" to me means they're all lumped together...I dunno...

I personally think it's pointless. As you state, the fact they're being so ambiguous. This option works for those who don't want downtown, but if you want downtown, you're probably not going to fill out the other 6. Since downtown is hardest to get, you have a much higher chance of getting one of the 6 non-downtown hotels if you fill that out. I just wouldn't risk it until they explain further how their algorithm is in figuring out hotels.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chachime45 on April 21, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
If you have an early bird hotel but don't need it anymore (although the full rate has already been paid in full) is it possible to transfer that room to someone else? In a way that removes the original renter from any liability for what the new renter does?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 21, 2017, 10:25:08 PM
I think the basic guideline is don't request a hotel with which you would not be pleased, whether it is downtown or not.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 21, 2017, 10:53:49 PM
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I personally think it's pointless. As you state, the fact they're being so ambiguous. This option works for those who don't want downtown, but if you want downtown, you're probably not going to fill out the other 6. Since downtown is hardest to get, you have a much higher chance of getting one of the 6 non-downtown hotels if you fill that out. I just wouldn't risk it until they explain further how their algorithm is in figuring out hotels.

and we were hoping for more transparency...silly fanatics   now my worry is that with the other 500k that don't know any better and list Mission Valley, will it more difficult to get one if you get locked out of downtown?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Fazermint on April 22, 2017, 04:06:07 AM
So there's no option to be put on a waiting list?  ???
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 22, 2017, 04:18:53 AM
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So there's no option to be put on a waiting list?  ???
There is a separate section on the form now making it much clearer.

Waitlist Preferences


Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 22, 2017, 04:51:20 AM
So this is my first time doing the lottery with this waiting room format.

So I guess if I am the last person in line in the waiting room I have no chance to get a hotel room?  Or is there a chance that I'm the first person in line and I still won't get my top choices

For the record, I am coming in on a Tuesday and my roommate and I were thinking of putting down for the high priced rooms, so I am wondering if our chances increase that way.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mrha7 on April 22, 2017, 05:01:05 AM
Just be sure to login before 9 and your should be good. It's all a randomly selected process.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 22, 2017, 05:10:24 AM
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Just be sure to login before 9 and your should be good. It's all a randomly selected process.

Woops, I should clarify. If I understand this correctly, after 9am, everyone is randomly sorted into a virtual line and then is given a form in that line. Let's say I am the last person to fill out their form. Does that mean I am SOL in terms of hotels. Or is there a chance that I can be the first person to fill out their form and still not get my top choices.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 05:37:18 AM
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Woops, I should clarify. If I understand this correctly, after 9am, everyone is randomly sorted into a virtual line and then is given a form in that line. Let's say I am the last person to fill out their form. Does that mean I am SOL in terms of hotels. Or is there a chance that I can be the first person to fill out their form and still not get my top choices.

Last year my lady friend and her mom instantly got into the form at 9am. They both got our first choice. I however ended up waiting nearly an hour. I got nothing. So take that for what it's worth. By nothing, I mean nothing. I didn't even get anything from the waitlist.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: fborrego79 on April 22, 2017, 06:10:12 AM
You can always try randomizing entry. If you are in a group don't all hop on at the same time. Random + Random = Luck ??
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 22, 2017, 07:14:38 AM
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If you have an early bird hotel but don't need it anymore (although the full rate has already been paid in full) is it possible to transfer that room to someone else? In a way that removes the original renter from any liability for what the new renter does?

From the comic con website: "All rooms must be paid for in advance and are non-transferable."
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TravT77 on April 22, 2017, 07:48:45 AM
Per CCI Hotel List posting:

"- Hotels in San Diego charge a Transient Occupancy tax of 10.565%, a Tourism Marketing assessment of 2% and parking fees, all
of which are subject to change without notice. Hotel rates are not guaranteed until booked and confirmed. Hotel rates may vary
by number of occupants and other requested services. Comic-Con and onPeak reserve the right to correct any identified errors."

Maybe I am just overlooking this, but does anyone know if the rates shown on the participating hotels list include these taxes/fees?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 22, 2017, 08:22:10 AM
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Maybe I am just overlooking this, but does anyone know if the rates shown on the participating hotels list include these taxes/fees?
They do not include any taxes and fees.

Last year at Omni for one night:
07-20-2016ROOM CHARGE 279.00 USD
07-20-201610.5% OCCUPANCY TAX   29.30 USD
07-20-2016CALIFORNIA TOURISM ASSESSMENT     0.56 USD
07-20-2016SD TOURISM MARKETING DISTRICT     5.58 USD
Total314.44 USD
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 22, 2017, 08:31:59 AM
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 22, 2017, 08:38:07 AM
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Think I found something which is making me revisit my choices...from http://comic-con.org/cci/hotels (http://comic-con.org/cci/hotels)

You now have the option to request a maximum of six (6) downtown hotels AND a maximum of six (6) non-downtown hotels. You are only required to submit one (1) hotel choice and will have the following options:
- Requesting only downtown hotels.
- Requesting only non-downtown hotels.
- Requesting a mix of both.

This last line tells me that if you pick 6 + 6, there could be a chance where they put you in a non-downtown hotel, even if you picked a downtown hotel that's still available.  I mean ,without text or info that says what happens when you pic both, "mix" to me means they're all lumped together...I dunno...

I think this is a good change. But yeah, it would be good if they said that any downtown choices would be ranked higher for you than non-downtown ones. Pretty much everyone wants to be downtown and I have to think the intention is to give someone a hotel from that list if possible and then go to the other list.  This way you get to choose more hotels overall, but only up to 6 downtown ones (if you just had one list where you could pick 12 some people would choose 12 downtown ones.)

This approach would have helped me in the past, I have never gotten a downtown hotel in the sale, but last year I was overconfident based on my form access time and picked all downtown hotels. Now I can also pick some non-downtown ones that I prefer as well. Of course if you are concerned there are safe options to use. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 22, 2017, 08:44:45 AM
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So this is my first time doing the lottery with this waiting room format.

So I guess if I am the last person in line in the waiting room I have no chance to get a hotel room?  Or is there a chance that I'm the first person in line and I still won't get my top choices

For the record, I am coming in on a Tuesday and my roommate and I were thinking of putting down for the high priced rooms, so I am wondering if our chances increase that way.
There was a thread last year where people posted their experiences for the purpose of detecting a pattern.  Maybe you can seek it out.  As I recall, people who got in during the first minute tended to get what they wanted.  Whether that is your top choice could depend on what hotel it is.  There are four or five hotels that are extremely popular.  I got my top choice with two rooms, but it wasn't one of those hotels.  I got in during the first minute.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 09:11:20 AM
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Per CCI Hotel List posting:

"- Hotels in San Diego charge a Transient Occupancy tax of 10.565%, a Tourism Marketing assessment of 2% and parking fees, all
of which are subject to change without notice. Hotel rates are not guaranteed until booked and confirmed. Hotel rates may vary
by number of occupants and other requested services. Comic-Con and onPeak reserve the right to correct any identified errors."

Maybe I am just overlooking this, but does anyone know if the rates shown on the participating hotels list include these taxes/fees?

The prices you see have never included all the taxes and extra fees. It's been like that ever since I could remember. It's just the base cost of the room. Once you add in the taxes, fees, and parking, you're looking at a significantly higher cost.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 22, 2017, 09:14:42 AM
Be aware of parking too, and things like resort fees and fees for wifi.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sessionka on April 22, 2017, 09:25:09 AM
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Just told the boss that I'd be late to work next Wednesday

I work in IT, so I'm constantly on-line.  I'll have to post a 'Do Not Disturb' sign in front of my cubicle though.    :) :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hipchick on April 22, 2017, 09:33:36 AM
Now that I have processed this a bit more I can see one reason why they would move to this two-batch notification system - it can help with cutting off the people that try to have multiple computers/people submitting forms all at once. Say you have ten people helping you but only one person gets in on May 1 you have to either take the room or leave it, because you won't know what happens to the rest. The two night deposit will be required before the next batch gets notified. So unless you have infinite amounts of $$$ to plunk down on multiple deposits and be able to wait for a refund on a cancelled room you now have to think twice about it if this ends up being your situation.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 09:47:13 AM
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Now that I have processed this a bit more I can see one reason why they would move to this two-batch notification system - it can help with cutting off the people that try to have multiple computers/people submitting forms all at once. Say you have ten people helping you but only one person gets in on May 1 you have to either take the room or leave it, because you won't know what happens to the rest. The two night deposit will be required before the next batch gets notified. So unless you have infinite amounts of $$$ to plunk down on multiple deposits and be able to wait for a refund on a cancelled room you now have to think twice about it if this ends up being your situation.

No offense, I don't think what you said will matter at all or is even correct. If you have 10 people helping such as your example, that means there are AT LEAST 10 credit cards that can be used to place the 2 night deposit, even if you only have 1 credit card, you should still have enough credit to put multiple deposits on it. You have till May 15 to request a refund. Sure the deposit is required before the May 8 batch, but unless you've maxed out your credit card, just paying the 2 night deposit, then waiting for your other people's hotels shouldn't be an issue. Then if someone else gets something better, you contact OnPeak and get a refund on the first batch hotel. I highly doubt this 2 stage system is meant to prevent people from thinking twice.

What I actually think the two batch system is for, is they'll take half of the people who go to the form first. So say the first 1000 people, whatever. Just using that number as an example. Give them their hotels. By the time the second batch notification is out, everyone who wanted their rooms will have paid their deposit, and so this potentially opens-up more rooms for those in the second batch. Not everyone will keep their room. Thus after all the deposits are made, the extra rooms will then be put back into the lottery for the second batch to have. I like that idea personally. In the past, the extra rooms all went to waitlist. Now, you potentially can give them to the second batch first. Then after the second batch of deposits are paid, we can go to the waitlisted people. It means hopefully less people waitlisted, and more people getting their top choices. Again, I have no insider info, but my idea sounds the most clearest as to why you'd go to a two batch notification system.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hipchick on April 22, 2017, 10:02:34 AM
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No offense, I don't think what you said will matter at all or is even correct. If you have 10 people helping such as your example, that means there are AT LEAST 10 credit cards that can be used to place the 2 night deposit, even if you only have 1 credit card, you should still have enough credit to put multiple deposits on it. You have till May 15 to request a refund. Sure the deposit is required before the May 8 batch, but unless you've maxed out your credit card, just paying the 2 night deposit, then waiting for your other people's hotels shouldn't be an issue. Then if someone else gets something better, you contact OnPeak and get a refund on the first batch hotel. I highly doubt this 2 stage system is meant to prevent people from thinking twice.

What I actually think the two batch system is for, is they'll take half of the people who go to the form first. So say the first 1000 people, whatever. Just using that number as an example. Give them their hotels. By the time the second batch notification is out, everyone who wanted their rooms will have paid their deposit, and so this potentially opens-up more rooms for those in the second batch. Not everyone will keep their room. Thus after all the deposits are made, the extra rooms will then be put back into the lottery for the second batch to have. I like that idea personally. In the past, the extra rooms all went to waitlist. Now, you potentially can give them to the second batch first. Then after the second batch of deposits are paid, we can go to the waitlisted people. It means hopefully less people waitlisted, and more people getting their top choices. Again, I have no insider info, but my idea sounds the most clearest as to why you'd go to a two batch notification system.

Good point! I wasn't even thinking about it that way.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 22, 2017, 10:30:11 AM
interesting this year's sale you don't have to pick 6.

im working if i should just submit the top 2 i really want, or if i should just pick my top 6 downtown hotels anyways?

what is everybody going to do, pick 6 still or just pick their top 2 or 3?

last year was my 1st time doing to the hotel lottery and i got my #1. also i did get in right at 9am when the sale went live.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 10:32:48 AM
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interesting this year's sale you don't have to pick 6.

im working if i should just submit the top 2 i really want, or if i should just pick my top 6 downtown hotels anyways?

what is everybody going to do, pick 6 still or just pick their top 2 or 3?

last year was my 1st time doing to the hotel lottery and i got my #1. also i did get in right at 9am when the sale went live.

I'm going to pick a Top 2 or 3. Why? Simple. It depends on the waitlisting. I'm going under the assumption if I pick say 6 hotels, it gives them more hotels to give me for the waitlist. I'd rather be waitlisted for only the 2 or 3 I really want. I used to pick 6 because we had to, but really, I only had like a couple or so I actually wanted. But this is me. Others may just want a downtown hotel, and not be so specific. In that case, Id say pick 6 to get more chances at a waitlist.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 22, 2017, 10:38:38 AM
has anyone had a list of hotels based on the form timestamp (they claim it's the time you enter the form, but they didn't address stories from last year sooo..)  after a few minutes you know the closest are gone...so you move on to the next closest?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
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has anyone had a list of hotels based on the form timestamp (they claim it's the time you enter the form, but they didn't address stories from last year sooo..)  after a few minutes you know the closest are gone...so you move on to the next closest?

Can you please clarify what you're asking? I can't understand your question.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 22, 2017, 10:43:19 AM
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Can you please clarify what you're asking? I can't understand your question.

if you don't get into the form by 9:05 MMM, HBF, hard rock, omni, are probably already spoken for, do you then make your top choice the next closest, may be less likely requested in the first minutes?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 22, 2017, 10:45:18 AM
As the Pendry hotel is not on the hotel list, and the SDCC dates are blocked on their website, I am guessing that the hotel has been reserved by some entity--a studio for instance.  Oh well...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 10:46:45 AM
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if you don't get into the form by 9:05 MMM, HBF, hard rock, omni, are probably already spoken for, do you then make your top choice the next closest, may be less likely requested in the first minutes?

I'd make my choices as I normally would. I won't assume if I don't get in by 9:05, that my top choices are gone. But that's me.

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As the Pendry hotel is not on the hotel list, and the SDCC dates are blocked on their website, I am guessing that the hotel has been reserved by some entity--a studio for instance.  Oh well...

I posted in the Pendry thread. I wonder if the Pendry will show-up in the actual form. In the past, when we get the list of hotels, the final form has extra rooms/hotels that weren't in the "sample." Or, as you state, Pendry is being saved for VIPs and the like. We may never know though, until Wednesday.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 22, 2017, 10:51:38 AM
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I posted in the Pendry thread. I wonder if the Pendry will show-up in the actual form. In the past, when we get the list of hotels, the final form has extra rooms/hotels that weren't in the "sample." Or, as you state, Pendry is being saved for VIPs and the like. We may never know though, until Wednesday.

hmmm...another monkeywrench.  Guess we have to be ready...and have an eagle-eye when looking at hotel choices.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 10:54:10 AM
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hmmm...another monkeywrench.  Guess we have to be ready...and have an eagle-eye when looking at hotel choices.

Now that it's timestamped, it's not as problematic. Back in the day, when you had to type quickly, it was much harder when something you weren't expecting popped-up. Now, you have time to ponder if you want the Pendry, (if it shows up in the list that is.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 22, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
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Now that it's timestamped, it's not as problematic. Back in the day, when you had to type quickly, it was much harder when something you weren't expecting popped-up. Now, you have time to ponder if you want the Pendry, (if it shows up in the list that is.)

Thanks [member=4284]Jonathan[/member].  I am taking a deep breath of relief!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 22, 2017, 11:12:21 AM
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I'm going to pick a Top 2 or 3. Why? Simple. It depends on the waitlisting. I'm going under the assumption if I pick say 6 hotels, it gives them more hotels to give me for the waitlist. I'd rather be waitlisted for only the 2 or 3 I really want. I used to pick 6 because we had to, but really, I only had like a couple or so I actually wanted. But this is me. Others may just want a downtown hotel, and not be so specific. In that case, Id say pick 6 to get more chances at a waitlist.
so true since we had to pick 6, so this time around im picking the top 3 i really want.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tt7777 on April 22, 2017, 11:12:36 AM
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I'd make my choices as I normally would. I won't assume if I don't get in by 9:05, that my top choices are gone. But that's me.

I posted in the Pendry thread. I wonder if the Pendry will show-up in the actual form. In the past, when we get the list of hotels, the final form has extra rooms/hotels that weren't in the "sample." Or, as you state, Pendry is being saved for VIPs and the like. We may never know though, until Wednesday.
Would you happen to have a link to the Pendry hotel thread? Thank you.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 11:14:31 AM
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Would you happen to have a link to the Pendry hotel thread? Thank you.


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Here you go!

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6266.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6266.0)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tt7777 on April 22, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ToryRoxx on April 22, 2017, 12:05:18 PM
im not sure if this is the right thread but does anyone know if you can fill out the hotel lottery form from your phone?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 22, 2017, 12:12:01 PM
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im not sure if this is the right thread but does anyone know if you can fill out the hotel lottery form from your phone?
as long as javascript and cookies are enabled in your browser on your phone, i dont see why not. you can test your phone browser at this link.

https://cci.onpeak.info/cookiecheck

also as long as this sample form works on your phone browser, you should be good.

https://cci.onpeak.info/browsercheck
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sciencebird on April 22, 2017, 01:00:56 PM
It's not clear to me if one person can enter into the waiting room using multiple browsers or devices with the same email link, or if it is one per person like the ticket lottery.  Has anyone used multiple browsers before and does it help?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 22, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
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The option to select dates will show up after you select the number of rooms. :)

This was making me crazy.  I didn't see where we put in room type until you select how many rooms you need.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 22, 2017, 01:41:13 PM
So what are the options if one is completely shut out of the lottery?  Paying $800 a night at the Hyatt?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mel on April 22, 2017, 01:43:00 PM
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So what are the options if one is completely shut out of the lottery?  Paying $800 a night at the Hyatt?

There will be plenty of rooms in Mission Valley and beyond. No one has to pay $800/night downtown.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 22, 2017, 02:29:08 PM
So I'm in a group of 4 and we are all going to try, but has anyone ever figured out whether we shouldn't put each other's names in as occupants or not?  Because we have always done so and we were never flagged as duplicates.  I'm wondering if they only look at the information at the top.

What does everyone else do?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 22, 2017, 04:48:54 PM
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The two night deposit will be required before the next batch gets notified. So unless you have infinite amounts of $$$ to plunk down on multiple deposits and be able to wait for a refund on a cancelled room you now have to think twice about it if this ends up being your situation.

Our group has decided to just take the best of whatever we might get on the 1st and put the deposit down. If something better comes up on the 8th, then we cancel the first and put another deposit down. As someone else said, we've got a lot of credit cards between us. Two deposits won't max any one of us out while waiting for a refund.
 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 22, 2017, 04:59:01 PM
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There will be plenty of rooms in Mission Valley and beyond. No one has to pay $800/night downtown.
Now that 100,000 ppl enter 6 other will that still be the case?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 22, 2017, 05:43:09 PM
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It's not clear to me if one person can enter into the waiting room using multiple browsers or devices with the same email link, or if it is one per person like the ticket lottery.  Has anyone used multiple browsers before and does it help?
last year i used multiple browsers without any issues, it can't hurt i dont think.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: thawk on April 22, 2017, 06:37:34 PM
Forgive me if I've missed this question, but have we gotten confirmation on the following:

Let's say I put 6 downtown and 6 non-downtown.  I get assigned one of my non-downtown choices.  Am I still waitlisted for my downtown options?  Would change my thoughts about whether I wanted to indicate a non-downtown hotel.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 06:40:10 PM
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Forgive me if I've missed this question, but have we gotten confirmation on the following:

Let's say I put 6 downtown and 6 non-downtown.  I get assigned one of my non-downtown choices.  Am I still waitlisted for my downtown options?  Would change my thoughts about whether I wanted to indicate a non-downtown hotel.

We discussed this a little bit earlier. The truthful answer? We "don't know." OnPeak hasn't given us any indication of their algorithm on how they judge who gets what hotel. No clue of preference or anything. They should have given another option box. One stating "I prefer downtown hotels above all else." So the system automatically goes downtown for you, and if you don't get one, you're automatically waitlisted for downtown as well. I know there is the option of "book me closest to the convention center regardless of rate" but to me that is slightly different than having a box dedicated to "downtown above all else." But as of right now, we have no indication any way.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: thawk on April 22, 2017, 06:57:44 PM
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We discussed this a little bit earlier. The truthful answer? We "don't know." OnPeak hasn't given us any indication of their algorithm on how they judge who gets what hotel. No clue of preference or anything. They should have given another option box. One stating "I prefer downtown hotels above all else." So the system automatically goes downtown for you, and if you don't get one, you're automatically waitlisted for downtown as well. I know there is the option of "book me closest to the convention center regardless of rate" but to me that is slightly different than having a box dedicated to "downtown above all else." But as of right now, we have no indication any way.

Thanks for catching me up :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 22, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
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So I'm in a group of 4 and we are all going to try, but has anyone ever figured out whether we shouldn't put each other's names in as occupants or not?  Because we have always done so and we were never flagged as duplicates.  I'm wondering if they only look at the information at the top.

What does everyone else do?

Me and my people are curious as to the answer to this as well
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 22, 2017, 09:29:36 PM
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Me and my people are curious as to the answer to this as well

I see no one has supplied an answer yet and I know there are a lot of people in our same predicament.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 22, 2017, 09:42:13 PM
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I see no one has supplied an answer yet and I know there are a lot of people in our same predicament.

I don't think it's because no one has supplied an answer, I think it's because nobody HAS an answer. We simply don't know. In previous years, it's never been an issue, but then last year happened, and things got thrown out the window. I know I personally don't want to tell someone something, and be proven wrong when I'm not 100% sure. In this case, I'm not 100% sure. I know what I THINK, but it's meaningless because OnPeak can do whatever they want to do sadly.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on April 22, 2017, 10:03:14 PM
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I see no one has supplied an answer yet and I know there are a lot of people in our same predicament.

I *think* it is more important to make sure the phone number and email address don't get duplicated. 

That said, last year my 2 daughters and I had no response to our requests and used different emails and phone numbers, but our last name is distinctive.  So that's the only thing I can't figure that they flagged.  We *may* have used the home address more than once, but even so there are apartment buildings and such and also what if family members each want their own room???  We did end up getting rooms but through friends with completely different info.

But really I don't think anyone knows for sure...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 23, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
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I *think* it is more important to make sure the phone number and email address don't get duplicated. 

That said, last year my 2 daughters and I had no response to our requests and used different emails and phone numbers, but our last name is distinctive.  So that's the only thing I can't figure that they flagged.  We *may* have used the home address more than once, but even so there are apartment buildings and such and also what if family members each want their own room???  We did end up getting rooms but through friends with completely different info.

But really I don't think anyone knows for sure...

I've been wondering about the duplicate issue as well. Every year, my mom and I always list the same 6 hotel choices. We list each other as room occupants and have the same mailing address, but different phone numbers and email addresses. She got a hotel last year (even though it wasn't one of our 6 choices, it was still downtown) and I got nothing. So, not sure if mine was flagged for being a duplicate due to address/last name being the same, or if the hotels were just all gone by the time mine was processed.

We ended up not being able to go due to health issues, so now that these changes with the 6 downtown vs. 6 non-downtown and the options for what to do if none of your hotels are available, i'm extra nervous as we need a close hotel due to her health issues. We are planning to only list the 6 downtown options and nothing in the non-downtown area as we would rather be waitlisted for downtown than be farther away. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: madfly on April 23, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
Last year, my husband and I used different email addresses, different phone numbers, different guest names BUT the same address.  He got a room and I never got anything! I assume I was flagged because our addresses were the same!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Kevin Bachelder on April 23, 2017, 11:02:10 AM
I don't have a badge for 2017 but may be getting one from a vendor so I'm interested in getting a hotel room. 

Do you have to have a 2017 badge to be able to take part in the hotel lottery?


Thank you,

Kevin
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Devorah on April 23, 2017, 11:15:47 AM
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I don't have a badge for 2017 but may be getting one from a vendor so I'm interested in getting a hotel room. 

Do you have to have a 2017 badge to be able to take part in the hotel lottery?

No, anyone can participate in the hotel lottery. :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Kevin Bachelder on April 23, 2017, 11:22:35 AM
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No, anyone can participate in the hotel lottery. :)

Excellent...thanks for the quick and very helpful reply!  8)


Kevin
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Quislings on April 23, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
I feel like these are dumb questions on my part, but I've never requested more than one room on a form and this year we're contemplating two rooms.

Does it hurt/hinder your chances at downtown hotels to request 2 rooms on the form?

And when you get two rooms, is the deposit two nights for two rooms (so 4 nights) + taxes?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 23, 2017, 11:35:49 AM
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I feel like these are dumb questions on my part, but I've never requested more than one room on a form and this year we're contemplating two rooms.

Does it hurt/hinder your chances at downtown hotels to request 2 rooms on the form?

And when you get two rooms, is the deposit two nights for two rooms (so 4 nights) + taxes?

I'd say it could hurt, I can't imagine it'd help your chances. I mean if you get into the form pretty quickly, it probably won't matter. But if you get in later, it may affect it some.

As for the deposits, the best guess is, deposits for 4 total nights, so deposits for each room for 2 nights. They can't possibly only require 2 total nights for two rooms.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 23, 2017, 11:40:09 AM
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I feel like these are dumb questions on my part, but I've never requested more than one room on a form and this year we're contemplating two rooms.

Does it hurt/hinder your chances at downtown hotels to request 2 rooms on the form?

And when you get two rooms, is the deposit two nights for two rooms (so 4 nights) + taxes?

If they've run the sale exactly as they've said they will (i.e. requests processed in strict order of form access time), then it would hinder you a little, just because it's less likely your hotel would have 2 room still available than 1. But it shouldn't REALLY hinder you much unless you happen to be asking for the last 1 or 2 of that room type at that hotel.

And yes, you'd have to deposit 2 nights for each room (so 4 nights). But you can put each room on a different person's credit card if that helps.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 23, 2017, 01:16:14 PM
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It's not clear to me if one person can enter into the waiting room using multiple browsers or devices with the same email link, or if it is one per person like the ticket lottery.  Has anyone used multiple browsers before and does it help?

I have the same question. I've seen talk of the emailed links to the waiting room actually being unique to the person they're sent to, but does anyone think that means they can only be used in one session at a time? Or could I use the same link in two different browsers?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 23, 2017, 01:37:11 PM
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I have the same question. I've seen talk of the emailed links to the waiting room actually being unique to the person they're sent to, but does anyone think that means they can only be used in one session at a time? Or could I use the same link in two different browsers?


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Here's what I believe is happening, please chime in or correct as needed.

The link in the emails is the same, but you are immediately redirected to another page where you are given an id. Right now, there is just a precheck so everyone is getting the same id (you will see pre-cf9d5e5c5b457634c2e3ae84dddb3a12) in the url. Once the waiting room is officially open, you will get redirected to a different page and this time you will get a unique id, probably another 32 character hex string. This id will correspond to your session and should not be shared. If the sale works like it did previously, this id will also be present in your browser cookie, so if you use different browsers, or multiple users in the same browser (anything that would give you separate browser cookies) then each session would have different unique ids.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Foxygrandpa83 on April 23, 2017, 01:51:56 PM
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Last year, my husband and I used different email addresses, different phone numbers, different guest names BUT the same address.  He got a room and I never got anything! I assume I was flagged because our addresses were the same!


We got our submissions thrown out completely - same last name and same address. This year, one of us is using our parents' address so we get a shot! Something is better than nothing after the lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chirigami on April 23, 2017, 02:05:47 PM
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I feel like these are dumb questions on my part, but I've never requested more than one room on a form and this year we're contemplating two rooms.

Does it hurt/hinder your chances at downtown hotels to request 2 rooms on the form?

And when you get two rooms, is the deposit two nights for two rooms (so 4 nights) + taxes?
It might a little. Last year was the first year I applied for two rooms on the form and while I didn't get any of my choices I was still given a downtown hotel on the day of reckoning. I was one of the earliest ones in so that might have been a help in the end? Hard to say really, will have to see this year how things really go I guess?
I think it might also depend on how many people you put down for occupancy, we only had two in each of ours and put a king being fine which seems to aid in any chances for hotels anywho.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Vypinoy on April 23, 2017, 03:12:11 PM
Has anyone ever tried the phone number and called in to the request form on hotel day? is that just like elevator music for the waiting room?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jazzyj on April 23, 2017, 03:58:22 PM
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Has anyone ever tried the phone number and called in to the request form on hotel day? is that just like elevator music for the waiting room?

I called in last year while I was waiting in the queue. I think I got connected to a person 3 minutes after the sale opened but it takes a significant amount of time to tell the person which hotel you want. You have to give them all your info and they take a bit filling that part of the form out. Sometimes they'll ask you for clarification (like studio versus suite at the Hard Rock) which may make the process longer. I was   just starting the process of telling them my top 6 when I finally got into the form on my computer. I knew it would be faster to fill it out myself than being on the phone so I just told the person that somebody in my group completed the process for me and I thanked him/her.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Quislings on April 23, 2017, 04:28:57 PM
Thanks for answering my first questions, I got one more to get the hang of this need for two rooms this year.

If I put in for two rooms and we get our first choice, but one of my roommates puts in for two rooms as well and we want to give those up to other people, will we have to give up the two rooms together? Like are those two rooms locked into one reservation?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 23, 2017, 04:33:23 PM
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Thanks for answering my first questions, I got one more to get the hang of this need for two rooms this year.

If I put in for two rooms and we get our first choice, but one of my roommates puts in for two rooms as well and we want to give those up to other people, will we have to give up the two rooms together? Like are those two rooms locked into one reservation?

I can't say for sure, since I've never done it. But I can't imagine it's any different than the usual one room reservation. In which case, I'd say it's tied into one reservation. So giving up the second room to others would be difficult, unless you absolutely trusted them with your personal info. You'll be able to call OnPeak later and change the reservation info, but the issue is separating the two rooms into two reservations. If that can't be done, then calling to change info is pointless.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Vypinoy on April 23, 2017, 08:07:56 PM
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I called in last year while I was waiting in the queue. I think I got connected to a person 3 minutes after the sale opened but it takes a significant amount of time to tell the person which hotel you want. You have to give them all your info and they take a bit filling that part of the form out. Sometimes they'll ask you for clarification (like studio versus suite at the Hard Rock) which may make the process longer. I was   just starting the process of telling them my top 6 when I finally got into the form on my computer. I knew it would be faster to fill it out myself than being on the phone so I just told the person that somebody in my group completed the process for me and I thanked him/her.

but do u think that that phone access 3 minutes after the sale opened was earlier than your form/online access and that phone call would prioritize your entrance before your online form?

so in that 3 minutes its just elevator music or what?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Fazermint on April 23, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
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If none of my preferred hotel choices are available...
o Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate.
o Book me at a hotel with the lowest available rate, regardless of location.
o Book me at any hotel that is on the shuttle route, regardless of rate or location.
o If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely.

Waitlist Preferences
o Place me on the waitlist
o I do not want to be on the waitlist


This confuses me. If I pick "If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely", then can I also pick "Place me on the waitlist."? Seems to me if they disregarding my request completely, they would be like "NEXT" and not even add me to the waitlist.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 23, 2017, 10:10:28 PM
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This confuses me. If I pick "If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely", then can I also pick "Place me on the waitlist."? Seems to me if they disregarding my request completely, they would be like "NEXT" and not even add me to the waitlist.

I had this same question while looking at the form. I also noticed something else too. Nobody could answer. The option that says pick a hotel closest to the convention regardless of cost. Does that mean regardless of cost via OnPeak prices? Or is it ANY price? Including the inflated SDCC pricing?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 23, 2017, 11:22:40 PM
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I had this same question while looking at the form. I also noticed something else too. Nobody could answer. The option that says pick a hotel closest to the convention regardless of cost. Does that mean regardless of cost via OnPeak prices? Or is it ANY price? Including the inflated SDCC pricing?

That's a good question. I have not heard of people getting charged rates outside of those negotiated for the sale, so I'm assuming the option just refers to the normal price range, (which is still significant.) Has anyone been offered a prohibitively expensive rate as part of the official sale?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 23, 2017, 11:32:03 PM
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This confuses me. If I pick "If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely", then can I also pick "Place me on the waitlist."? Seems to me if they disregarding my request completely, they would be like "NEXT" and not even add me to the waitlist.

I think so, but I guess it comes down to the definition of "available" and if it means available right way, or at waitlist time. Irregardless, I don't think it hurts to be on the waitlist. If you did select "If none of my preferred hotel choices are available, disregard my request completely," and choose to be on the waitlist then my assumption would be that you are still eligible for the hotels that you explicitly listed, in case those come available during the waitlist process, but that you would not be considered for any hotels that you did not list in your form.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 23, 2017, 11:36:58 PM
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That's a good question. I have not heard of people getting charged rates outside of those negotiated for the sale, so I'm assuming the option just refers to the normal price range, (which is still significant.) Has anyone been offered a prohibitively expensive rate as part of the official sale?

See, to me I wonder, because above that there is also the option to put me into one of my choices regardless of cost.

I figure it's different, because the option says "If the only room(s) available at my specified hotels are at an upgraded/higher nightly rate, book my reservation into those room(s) at my specified hotels. NOTE: Nightly rates can be substantially higher than the rates posted above. Checking this box DOES NOT guarantee you will get a room."

If you click this, and one of your Top 6 is available, they'd just give you that, so thus, I assume it's two separate things, and that you're correct about it being the negotiated rate and not something even more exorbitant.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: darqamin on April 24, 2017, 08:12:42 AM
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No, anyone can participate in the hotel lottery. :)

Will they post the link on the website at 9am PST then? or 8am pst? I just saw that they emailed it to badge owners so I was worried it only goes to badge owners.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on April 24, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
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That's a good question. I have not heard of people getting charged rates outside of those negotiated for the sale, so I'm assuming the option just refers to the normal price range, (which is still significant.) Has anyone been offered a prohibitively expensive rate as part of the official sale?

A couple years ago we checked the "Upgraded/Higher Nightly Rate" and were offered a suite at MGH for $900/night.  We declined.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 24, 2017, 08:31:00 AM
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I feel like these are dumb questions on my part, but I've never requested more than one room on a form and this year we're contemplating two rooms.

Does it hurt/hinder your chances at downtown hotels to request 2 rooms on the form?

And when you get two rooms, is the deposit two nights for two rooms (so 4 nights) + taxes?

I requested two rooms last year and got them in a downtown hotel.  But, (1) I was let into the room quickly, (2) the hotel in question was not one of the most popular ones.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nvj29 on April 24, 2017, 08:54:10 AM
Our first picks are in the airport area, so we have hi-ish hopes.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 24, 2017, 08:58:23 AM
Has it been determined for sure that the link is NOT unique and we can use multiple browsers?

I don't see anything about that in SDCC's site.  I only saw it on a tweet by the SDCC blog.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: frostywontons on April 24, 2017, 10:19:08 AM
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So I'm in a group of 4 and we are all going to try, but has anyone ever figured out whether we shouldn't put each other's names in as occupants or not?  Because we have always done so and we were never flagged as duplicates.  I'm wondering if they only look at the information at the top.

What does everyone else do?

The sample form for this year doesn't offer an option to input occupants  (odd). Just the Requester's info. In any case, it doesn't matter because you always have the option to input occupant information later once you have a room booked.

***oops, saw that you can enter occupant info! But I would still just enter one person's info but book the appropriate room configuration.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Javier on April 24, 2017, 10:27:42 AM
I can't remember at the moment from past hotel sales, but daily resort fees...are those built into the price or is that extra?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 24, 2017, 10:30:41 AM
Once you choose the number of rooms it provide fields for dates and occupants.  Here is what OnPeak released in regards to last year
http://sdccblog.com/2016/04/cci-onpeak-offer-insight-to-san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2016/year and dupicates (http://sdccblog.com/2016/04/cci-onpeak-offer-insight-to-san-diego-comic-con-general-hotel-sale-2016/year and dupicates)

 Queue ID or session ID is the hardest to determine.  It could mean submissions from same computer or maybe per browser or browser window I am not sure. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 24, 2017, 10:58:47 AM
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Has it been determined for sure that the link is NOT unique and we can use multiple browsers?

I don't see anything about that in SDCC's site.  I only saw it on a tweet by the SDCC blog.

I don't think it's unique.  There's no registration code in the email and everybody is getting the same link.  Plus the directions say that non-badge holders can enter -- which means theoretically, I can copy and past the link in an email to my mom and have her try getting a hotel for me too.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AJComicCon on April 24, 2017, 12:27:13 PM
Does anyone know if it's a bad idea to use the same address when filling out the Reservation Form? My husband and I have totally different info all but that, and I'm worried about it getting flagged and our forms being trashed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: citizenmilton on April 24, 2017, 12:30:48 PM
Couldn't help myself, and composed a mini-tweetstorm on the recent changes to the hotel process:

https://twitter.com/citizenmilton/status/856587484372840448 (https://twitter.com/citizenmilton/status/856587484372840448)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Michael M on April 24, 2017, 12:35:49 PM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 24, 2017, 12:42:55 PM
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Couldn't help myself, and composed a mini-tweetstorm on the recent changes to the hotel process:

https://twitter.com/citizenmilton/status/856587484372840448 (https://twitter.com/citizenmilton/status/856587484372840448)

Love it! You hit it on the nose!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 24, 2017, 01:00:36 PM
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Couldn't help myself, and composed a mini-tweetstorm on the recent changes to the hotel process:

https://twitter.com/citizenmilton/status/856587484372840448 (https://twitter.com/citizenmilton/status/856587484372840448)

Excellent use of WOPR.

I want to encourage everyone to participate in the data-gathering thread, it's probably our best bet at figuring out some of the unknowns.

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 24, 2017, 01:50:10 PM
This is my strategy for this year. Having a separate list for downtown and non-downtown hotels is the big game-changer, since last year the most difficult thing to figure out would be how to change your hotel list if you got to the form later. Now you can always pick 6 downtown hotels no matter what and at least get on their waitlist.

A lot of this is based on what we learned from last year, so I am assuming things like the queue numbers and overall timing are similar.

Ignore the queue number (assuming there is one.) This was the most confusing thing last year for a lot of people. A person might see a low number like 300 and assume that they were 300th in an overall line, but there were actually many separate queues. All the queue number did was give you a rough idea of how close you were to getting to the form, a very rough idea since the numbers only updated every so many minutes and not in any synchronized way.

In 2016 you had a good chance at a downtown hotel if you got to the form in the first minute, a decent chance in the second, and then it dropped off quite steeply. So if I'm in quickly I'll be aggressive and go for my top hotels. If I am chosen in the second minute, I will mix in some of the less-primo downtown hotels. As the time increases I will start listing some non-downtown hotels that I like. (I know there is a lot of understandable concern that hotels in the non-downtown list will dilute your chances of a downtown hotel, but I'm going to have to risk it at some point since I have some non-downtown hotels that I greatly prefer over others.)

If it takes even longer to get to the form, I'll revert my downtown list to my top 6 and start spreading out the non-downtown list so that I have one or 2 choices in different areas, based on factors like their location on the shuttle route and how close they are to the trolley, good restaurants, etc. In all situations, I'll hedge things by picking the "Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate" option and will fill out the form as quickly as I can, just in case.

Then I will sit in an all-day work meeting and pretend I am paying attention.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 24, 2017, 02:01:38 PM
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Then I will sit in an all-day work meeting and pretend I am paying attention.

I have a global call right around the time this would be ending and I chuckled reading this bit of your post  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: frostywontons on April 24, 2017, 02:53:54 PM
So what is the consensus on listing all 6 downtown choices versus, say, just a top three? Anyone think this is a particularly useful strategy?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 24, 2017, 03:27:40 PM
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So what is the consensus on listing all 6 downtown choices versus, say, just a top three? Anyone think this is a particularly useful strategy?

If there are 6 with which you would be happy, I would list all 6. If you really feel like you only want 3, and would refuse anything that wasn't those 3, then only list 3.

So the real question is, if none of the 3 are available, what will you do for lodging?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 24, 2017, 03:46:39 PM
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So what is the consensus on listing all 6 downtown choices versus, say, just a top three? Anyone think this is a particularly useful strategy?

I could be wrong of course, but I don't think listing A,B,C only would give you a better chance at one of them than listing A,B,C,X,Y,Z would. We've never had this sort of option before so it is uncharted territory, so please don't let my idle musings lead you to do something you are uneasy with. But my reason for thinking so is boringly practical, it would be a lot easier to code.

If the sale works such that you order the forms, process them one by one, and first go through the downtown list in order, then the non-downtown list in order, stopping if you find a hotel that is still available (given the dates and other stuff that were entered,) then your chance of scoring choice A wouldn't depend at all on how many hotels you listed. This is probably how things worked before, and is simple to implement.

Imagine now a process where only listing A,B,C would give you a better chance at A. There are lots of ways you could do this, but you have to introduce some mechanism for this conditional logic, and it's definitely going to get more complicated. If I enter A,B,C,X,Y,Z and you enter A,B,C but with a later timestamp, then if just one room in A and one room in X are both available for me when my request is processed, what would make the system assign me X instead of A? The system would have to know that giving me X would result in both of us getting a top pick instead of just me, so it is using information contained in a request that was submitted after mine to influence what it gives to me. (Or approximate this somehow.)

We know they track how many requests get a top pick, but we haven't seen anything to suggest they optimize for this during the processing. Last year for example, the chances of you getting a downtown hotel that was not in your top 6 went (by minute) 12%, 21%, 15%, 5%, 1%, 0% .... If they were trying to get as many people into a top pick as possible, then it would have made sense to not place any of the early people into a downtown hotel when their top 6 were not available, since some later person would likely have had that downtown hotel on their list.

I'm not saying it's impossible to build a system that would optimize for criteria like many requests get a top pick, in fact it would be a pretty fun project, but you are going to have to scan all the requests and record some information that you would then use when you processed the requests in order, instead of just going down the list.

Here's the post with last year's numbers.
http://friendsofcc.com/2016/04/25/sdcc-2016-post-hotel-lottery-a-statistical-analysis/ (http://friendsofcc.com/2016/04/25/sdcc-2016-post-hotel-lottery-a-statistical-analysis/)

TL;DR version: It's easy for me to list 6 downtown hotels that I would be totally happy with. :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 24, 2017, 04:00:41 PM
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In 2016 you had a good chance at a downtown hotel if you got to the form in the first minute, a decent chance in the second, and then it dropped off quite steeply. So if I'm in quickly I'll be aggressive and go for the top hotels. If I am chosen in the second minute, I will mix in some of the less-primo downtown hotels. In both of these cases I am still going to list closer non-downtown hotels that I like such as some of the ones around Little Italy. (I know there is a lot of understandable concern about whether or not hotels in the non-downtown list dilute your chances of a downtown hotel, but I'm going to risk it.)

If it takes longer to get to the form, I'll revert my downtown list to the top 6 and start spreading out the non-downtown list so that I have one or 2 choices in different areas, based on factors like their location on the shuttle route and how close they are to the trolley, good restaurants, etc. In all situations, I'll hedge things by picking the "Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate" option and will fill out the form as quickly as I can, just in case.

I had this same thought, though my brother and I are entering 6 different hotels as one minute passes, it's hard to choose anymore downtown without doubling up, which we think is silly, but I do think that could work.  I look forward to your results. gl
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 24, 2017, 04:27:55 PM
I found this on last years thread.  It seems a catch 22 - they say to enable cookies, but that is what assigns a session ID, apparently. Can Anyone clear this up or let me know the best method.  Many windows same , different browsers,  one computer per submission?

This year it was even worse, as they used the timestamp of when the last form loaded in the browser, so you didn't even have to submit the form for it to be considered a duplicate.

For example, if you were running two tabs in one browser and the first tab loaded the form at 9:01 and you submitted at 9:02, and the second tab loaded at 9:05, the timestamp for the submission would be changed from 9:01 to 9:05 even if you never submitted the second form.

The same thing would have happen if you were running two or more instances of the same browser on the same computer, or decided to open the same browser 10 minutes later and load the form again. The time the last form loaded would be considered your timestamp for the submission.

I don't know what they were trying to accomplish by doing this, but it could have certainly messed up a lot of timestamps on forms that were submitted early.
 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 24, 2017, 04:46:04 PM
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I found this on last years thread.  It seems a catch 22 - they say to enable cookies, but that is what assigns a session ID, apparently. Can Anyone clear this up or let me know the best method.  Many windows same , different browsers,  one computer per submission?

This year it was even worse, as they used the timestamp of when the last form loaded in the browser, so you didn't even have to submit the form for it to be considered a duplicate.

For example, if you were running two tabs in one browser and the first tab loaded the form at 9:01 and you submitted at 9:02, and the second tab loaded at 9:05, the timestamp for the submission would be changed from 9:01 to 9:05 even if you never submitted the second form.

The same thing would have happen if you were running two or more instances of the same browser on the same computer, or decided to open the same browser 10 minutes later and load the form again. The time the last form loaded would be considered your timestamp for the submission.

I don't know what they were trying to accomplish by doing this, but it could have certainly messed up a lot of timestamps on forms that were submitted early.

You are correct, you do have to have cookies enabled, and you need to make certain that cookie is only used in a single browser setting. So let's say I am doing the sale, but I also have to help out my hypothetical friend Bubba who is flying back from Hawaii and can't take part in the lottery.

I have several options, I can use different computers. I can use different browsers on the same computer, say Chrome and Firefox. (Maybe Internet Explorer for Bubba's form since he didn't invite me to Hawaii, the bum.) I could also create multiple users in the browser, e.g., multiple "people" in Chrome, though this last option might make it harder for me to keep track of which form is which. All of these options will result in my session and Bubba's having different cookies, session ids, etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 24, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
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You are correct, you do have to have cookies enabled, and you need to make certain that cookie is only used in a single browser setting. So let's say I am doing the sale, but I also have to help out my hypothetical friend Bubba who is flying back from Hawaii and can't take part in the lottery.

I have several options, I can use different computers. I can use different browsers on the same computer, say Chrome and Firefox. (Maybe Internet Explorer for Bubba's form since he didn't invite me to Hawaii, the bum.) I could also create multiple users in the browser, e.g., multiple "people" in Chrome, though this last option might make it harder for me to keep track of which form is which. All of these options will result in my session and Bubba's having different cookies, session ids, etc.

Ok I think I got it,  one session = one browser window,  as long as I have one window of IE, Chrome Mozilla,  we think that should work.   gl everyone
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 24, 2017, 07:06:11 PM
I'm ready for Wednesday already it's only Monday and I already had computer stress this morning to try and get Disneyworld free dining plan for my trip in December, this is my last stressful hurdle!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: monkeyluck on April 24, 2017, 09:48:02 PM
A lot of the Early Bird Hotels are showing as unavailable, have they been merged into the upcoming hotel sale, or have they just sold out?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 24, 2017, 09:51:38 PM
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A lot of the Early Bird Hotels are showing as unavailable, have they been merged into the upcoming hotel sale, or have they just sold out?
I was of the understanding that they were supposed to take them down just before the sale, so it's either that or people are playing it safe and filling them up.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 24, 2017, 09:53:31 PM
This is such torture, but God help me, I love it so! Does that make me a sick person?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 24, 2017, 10:17:14 PM
Still overthinking things, and have adjusted my thinking and strategy a bit. I think I understand more now about people's reaction to the optional non-downtown list, when you think about it combined with the effects of the new "Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate" option. If I put hotels on that list, and some are available but there are some downtown hotels still available, (but not ones on my list,) then presumably I would get something from my non-downtown list instead of the downtown room.

This isn't a new possibility, and could have happened in previous years, but the new option changes things. I imagine it will be a popular option to choose and would make the downtown pool of rooms disappear faster than last year, maybe even faster than years before that since it is a less risky option than the old "give me a downtown room or nothing." 

So I can see situations where you might not want to have anything in the non-downtown list, but if you really want some specific locations if you end up outside of downtown then at some point you'll have to balance out that risk.

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This is such torture, but God help me, I love it so! Does that make me a sick person?

Right there with you buddy.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 24, 2017, 10:28:45 PM
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Still overthinking things, and have adjusted my thinking and strategy a bit. I think I understand more now about people's reaction to the optional non-downtown list, when you think about it combined with the effects of the new "Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate" option. If I put hotels on that list, and some are available but there are some downtown hotels still available, (but not ones on my list,) then presumably I would get something from my non-downtown list instead of the downtown room.

This isn't a new possibility, and could have happened in previous years, but the new option changes things. I imagine it will be a popular option to choose and would make the downtown pool of rooms disappear faster than last year, maybe even faster than years before that since it is a less risky option than the old "give me a downtown room or nothing." 

So I can see situations where you might not want to have anything in the non-downtown list, but if you really want some specific locations if you end up outside of downtown then at some point you'll have to balance out that risk.

Right there with you buddy.

I really hope sending you my list didn't affect your strategy ;) I told you, for us it wasn't a strategy at all. We picked out Top 6 based on what we wanted. I actually would rather NOT get any of the Top 5 hotels. But that's me.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 24, 2017, 10:52:57 PM
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I really hope sending you my list didn't affect your strategy ;) I told you, for us it wasn't a strategy at all. We picked out Top 6 based on what we wanted. I actually would rather NOT get any of the Top 5 hotels. But that's me.

Might have a bit, but it's all good. I've remade my lists several times today :)  and will no doubt redo them quite a bit more. I doubt I'll be sleeping much the next few days.

The new closest to the convention center option could have some interesting side effects, the 4 closest non-downtown hotels are:

Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina (3.3 miles)
Coronado Marriott (3.6)
Hilton San Diego Airport Harbor Island (4.0)
BW PLUS Hacienda Hotel Old Town (4.1)

The Sheraton is the biggest non-downtown hotel and will probably get a lot of the requests, but neither the Coronado Marriott nor the Best Western Old Town have shuttle service. I think they're both great locations, especially Coronado, but they might not be for everybody.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 24, 2017, 11:14:06 PM
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Might have a bit, but it's all good. I've remade my lists several times today :)  and will no doubt redo them quite a bit more. I doubt I'll be sleeping much the next few days.

The new closest to the convention center option could have some interesting side effects, the 4 closest non-downtown hotels are:

Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina (3.3 miles)
Coronado Marriott (3.6)
Hilton San Diego Airport Harbor Island (4.0)
BW PLUS Hacienda Hotel Old Town (4.1)

The Sheraton is the biggest non-downtown hotel and will probably get a lot of the requests, but neither the Coronado Marriott nor the Best Western Old Town have shuttle service. I think they're both great locations, especially Coronado, but they might not be for everybody.

I haven't remade mine, but after speaking with you, I'm thinking of switching out two of the hotels LOL
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 25, 2017, 04:17:54 AM
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A lot of the Early Bird Hotels are showing as unavailable, have they been merged into the upcoming hotel sale, or have they just sold out?
Here is the remaining room inventory for the Early Bird Sale as of 7AM this morning.
Interesting how the Handlery Hotel San Diego has rooms available on Thurs, Fri, Sat, but not Wed and Sun.  I guess that hotel is being used as a bookend stay for some.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 25, 2017, 05:21:47 AM
I made a list last week, 6 downtown ones based mostly on price, and 3 airport ones based solely on proximity.

Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 25, 2017, 06:16:20 AM
Thanks, Steve, for the update! It does look like most of them are gone. Interesting how the Courtyard has negative rooms! I guess they 'oversold' their Early Bird block? It does seem like the Early Bird sale is more popular than ever, and given the mess with the lottery, I'm not surprised!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TravT77 on April 25, 2017, 07:13:49 AM
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No, anyone can participate in the hotel lottery. :)
I apologize for beating a dead horse, but I just want to ask one more question related to this. Can my wife, who has a CCI Member ID but does not have a badge use the same link that was sent to me to access the lottery? Seems like that would possibly kick me out of the waiting room?  She did not receive the email with the link.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 25, 2017, 07:18:57 AM
It clearly says that non badge holders can participate in the lottery, so yes, she can go in.  You shouldn't be kicked out of the waiting room, just make sure you use different computers.  Only thing you may have to be concerned about is their review of "duplicate entries" after any entries have been submitted.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: CaseyJones14 on April 25, 2017, 07:40:55 AM
Aaaaaand now I'm in freak out mode - I lasted longer than I had thought I would!  ;D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jason on April 25, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
Do we need to do separate computers? My friend who I go with is in China until May 1, so I was going to have two different browsers (Chrome and Firefox) going like I did with his member ID during open reg. I will be at work, no way I can do multiple computers.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 25, 2017, 09:16:37 AM
Multiple browsers should work.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jazzyj on April 25, 2017, 09:56:42 AM
Currently testing out my set-up at work for tomorrow's Hotelpocalypse. Thank god for dual monitors.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nvj29 on April 25, 2017, 10:28:41 AM
Has anyone ever submitted the hotel form in their phone?

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 25, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
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You are correct, you do have to have cookies enabled, and you need to make certain that cookie is only used in a single browser setting. So let's say I am doing the sale, but I also have to help out my hypothetical friend Bubba who is flying back from Hawaii and can't take part in the lottery.

I have several options, I can use different computers. I can use different browsers on the same computer, say Chrome and Firefox. (Maybe Internet Explorer for Bubba's form since he didn't invite me to Hawaii, the bum.) I could also create multiple users in the browser, e.g., multiple "people" in Chrome, though this last option might make it harder for me to keep track of which form is which. All of these options will result in my session and Bubba's having different cookies, session ids, etc.

I too was wondering if it would be better to use different browsers or different computers instead of just different tabs in the same browser. You gave a clear, definitive answer to that question. Thanks, Mark!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 25, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
I found this during my research  from Mark (ComicCon Dad?) gl everyone

Twas the week before Hotelpocalypse, and among all the fans
Not a person was nervous, (the date wasn’t known in advance.)
But we knew it was coming, our autofills tended with care
In hopes that last year’s field names still would be there.

Many were recovering now that Wondercon was over
Me, I was queuing up the Supergirl/Flash crossover.
Then the phone rang, my mother, wanting to chat
About um, something or other, I’ve quite forgotten that.

When on email and twitter there arose such a clatter,
I hung up on my mom to see what was the matter.
I opened a browser and to the forums I flew,
Would the sale be the same or was there anything new?

The sale was now part lottery, that was the big story.
Our annual adrenaline rush had new parts aleatory.
Some folks were upset, my own thoughts were not nice
Now that a chance at the Hard Rock required a roll of the dice.

It’s an understandable step, with the problems of years past
And it’s nice to worry a bit less about filling out the form fast.
Yet even so, the programmer inside of me wept,
A lottery being the refuge of the algorithmically inept.

There’s 56 hotels, with the same few in demand,
And some year I’ll get the Marquis, the Manchester Grand!
But this time it seems, if my luck isn’t great
I’ll have to dream of downtown from my room out by the 8.

And the changes are confusing, we don’t know quite how they work.
The companies should do better, else our brains go berserk.
With just one chance at the sale you’re guaranteed friction
When the information has gaps and even worse, contradiction.

But enough lamentation, there’s fewer things sadder
Than a geek like myself pontificating with incomplete data.
Far better to focus on the task as it we know it
And without knowing all the rules, do my best not to blow it!

So on Safari! On Firefox! On Internet Explorer and Chrome!
Oh crap, the sale’s on Tuesday? Can I swing working from home?
How many windows should I open? I consider with a frown,
All the time trying to forget the year my internet went down.

So while the new changes make me want to worry and pout,
I’ll give the new system the benefit of the doubt.
The best part is the people of course, Comic-Con draws the best sort,
And you’ll find them from the Omni to the Town and Country Resort.

As scary as it seems, I know one thing right now,
Whatever Tuesday brings, it’ll work out somehow.
So best of luck to you friends! May you find hotel Nirvana.
I’ll see you at Comic-Con, even if I bike in from Tijuana.  :D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: allmebri on April 25, 2017, 10:53:34 AM
I stayed at BW Old Town my first time. It is in walking distance to the trolley. Trolleys run all the time. We had no problems using it. Besides the food in Old Town is amazing!

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Might have a bit, but it's all good. I've remade my lists several times today :)  and will no doubt redo them quite a bit more. I doubt I'll be sleeping much the next few days.

The new closest to the convention center option could have some interesting side effects, the 4 closest non-downtown hotels are:

Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina (3.3 miles)
Coronado Marriott (3.6)
Hilton San Diego Airport Harbor Island (4.0)
BW PLUS Hacienda Hotel Old Town (4.1)

The Sheraton is the biggest non-downtown hotel and will probably get a lot of the requests, but neither the Coronado Marriott nor the Best Western Old Town have shuttle service. I think they're both great locations, especially Coronado, but they might not be for everybody.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on April 25, 2017, 11:26:53 AM
According to the unofficial blog my top 3 hotel choices seem to be everyone elses too, so now what to do? Guess I'll be requesting a few more hotels just in case.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 25, 2017, 11:31:55 AM
I miss the days when it was hotel sale eve and everyone was practicing their speed at filling out the practice form.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 11:37:36 AM
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I stayed at BW Old Town my first time. It is in walking distance to the trolley. Trolleys run all the time. We had no problems using it. Besides the food in Old Town is amazing!

Agree. Great food, and the history of the area is interesting too. It's kind of similar to how I feel about the Coronado Marriott, there's a lot of benefits to the location. But the transportation options limit you a bit, so if you want to get to the con really early or stay really late that might be an issue. (Cost too with Coronado.)

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I found this during my research  from Mark (ComicCon Dad?) gl everyone

lol, yes that was me. I had totally forgotten about that :) The coda would have to be that the gods of the sale gave us Town and Country, so we abandoned the hunt and went AirBNB.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 25, 2017, 11:41:36 AM
How wrong is it that since I have access to 30 laptops in a cart at work, I'm considering logging all of them on and opening a window on each one to up my chances of getting access to the form earlier?   :'(   
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 25, 2017, 12:03:15 PM
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How wrong is it that since I have access to 30 laptops in a cart at work, I'm considering logging all of them on and opening a window on each one to up my chances of getting access to the form earlier?   :'(

Isn't that too many to keep an eye on at once? 
Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 12:04:24 PM
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How wrong is it that since I have access to 30 laptops in a cart at work, I'm considering logging all of them on and opening a window on each one to up my chances of getting access to the form earlier?   :'(
That would be a lot of names, addresses, emails and phone numbers to make up in order to avoid duplication.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 12:08:25 PM
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Isn't that too many to keep an eye on at once?

Piece of cake.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tsnyder on April 25, 2017, 12:28:19 PM
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How wrong is it that since I have access to 30 laptops in a cart at work, I'm considering logging all of them on and opening a window on each one to up my chances of getting access to the form earlier?   :'(

I would do it if I had access.  You only care about the first one in so don't need to monitor them or anything  8)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 25, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
My group has had the same list for three years, mostly because we've been too lazy every year to revise too much and hotel lists haven't changed much. We probably have the top three hotels in there too, but we also have a back-up gaslamp hotel about 3-4 blocks from the convention center at least.

Of course, one of group hasn't chimed in on if she's okay with the last list again and forgoing non-downtown lists.

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I miss the days when it was hotel sale eve and everyone was practicing their speed at filling out the practice form.

I kind of miss that too, but it was very much down to if you did or did not get an error/etc. for loading the page. Also, my typing speed is shot this year because of all my health issues this year.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 01:11:44 PM
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I miss the days when it was hotel sale eve and everyone was practicing their speed at filling out the practice form.

Being a two finger typist, I was never much of a fan. Even with auto-fill, I was never able to clock a good time.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 25, 2017, 01:16:45 PM
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Being a two finger typist, I was never much of a fan. Even with auto-fill, I was never able to clock a good time.

It's funny, my typing skills are generally poor and not what anyone would consider fast. But for a couple of years there I got very good at the form, whether through practice or sheer panic I'll never know. Not that I miss those days at all though. The lottery process is much fairer and I enjoy the lack of heart-stopping terror that I'm not typing fast enough.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Sublime on April 25, 2017, 01:25:13 PM
It's been some years ... since 2009 to be exact, since we've made it to SDCC. So I'm new to the hotel lottery with OnPeak. Can anyone tell me what happens if you need to reserve extra days before or after the con, if you are lucky enough to get a hotel in the lottery? Thanks!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 25, 2017, 01:26:16 PM
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It's been some years ... since 2009 to be exact, since we've made it to SDCC. So I'm new to the hotel lottery with OnPeak. Can anyone tell me what happens if you need to reserve extra days before or after the con, if you are lucky enough to get a hotel in the lottery? Thanks!

Just book them directly with the hotel. They'll likely be cheaper than whatever rates OnPeak is offering. When you check in to the hotel, let them know that you have 2-3 consecutive reservations and they should combine them all for you there.

Can you tell that I do this every year?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 25, 2017, 01:32:57 PM
However, that may depend on the hotel.  In 2013, the MMM consolidated my reservations together, no problem.  In 2015, we asked the Bayfront if they did it and were told that they don't. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 25, 2017, 01:44:54 PM
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In 2015, we asked the Bayfront if they did it and were told that they don't. 
that's odd, i've never had a hotel not combine
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 25, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
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However, that may depend on the hotel.  In 2013, the MMM consolidated my reservations together, no problem.  In 2015, we asked the Bayfront if they did it and were told that they don't.

You got a bad rep at the front desk. The Bayfront combined 3 reservations for me in 2015.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 25, 2017, 02:01:54 PM
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It's funny, my typing skills are generally poor and not what anyone would consider fast. But for a couple of years there I got very good at the form, whether through practice or sheer panic I'll never know. Not that I miss those days at all though. The lottery process is much fairer and I enjoy the lack of heart-stopping terror that I'm not typing fast enough.

I totally miss those days!  I can type 120wpm, and could get the form in (without using any sort of autofill) in 45 seconds. Got my top choice each time. I so miss those days!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 25, 2017, 02:08:18 PM
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  I can type 120wpm,
yikes...how do you think that fast?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nedoeht3705 on April 25, 2017, 02:11:37 PM
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I totally miss those days!  I can type 120wpm, and could get the form in (without using any sort of autofill) in 45 seconds. Got my top choice each time. I so miss those days!

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
From last year's data, there were some forum members with ridiculously fast form completion times. (Measured with the browser logs, so not just their guess.) We're talking around 10 seconds, crazy fast.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
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Just book them directly with the hotel. They'll likely be cheaper than whatever rates OnPeak is offering. When you check in to the hotel, let them know that you have 2-3 consecutive reservations and they should combine them all for you there.

Can you tell that I do this every year?

Both MGH and Bayfront had no issues with combining the reservations- 4 years.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dolphina on April 25, 2017, 03:13:06 PM
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Being a two finger typist, I was never much of a fan. Even with auto-fill, I was never able to clock a good time.
I can use 2 fingers on each hand, so I understand how you feel. Fortunately for me I have the youngins help and they are fast typists.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 25, 2017, 03:35:10 PM
Just an FYI regarding the Hard Rock - I just called them to find out whether the "Suites" they're offering during the lottery tomorrow are king suites or queen suites or both.  They told me that there are no queen suites available July 20-22, so if we got a suite through the lottery, it would be a king suite.  Just wanted to throw it out there in case anyone was banking on the possibility of a queen suite there!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 25, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
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Isn't that too many to keep an eye on at once?

Oh, it definitely is. I would never actually do that...it was just funny to think about.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Evilregal30 on April 25, 2017, 03:41:56 PM
So say I don't get any of my top choices and choose the "any available hotel with lowest rate" and choose the waitlist option. If I get something in say Mission Valley and the waitlist option becomes available for a downtown hotel I should be able to switch right?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 25, 2017, 03:44:20 PM
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Just an FYI regarding the Hard Rock - I just called them to find out whether the "Suites" they're offering during the lottery tomorrow are king suites or queen suites or both.  They told me that there are no queen suites available July 20-22, so if we got a suite through the lottery, it would be a king suite.  Just wanted to throw it out there in case anyone was banking on the possibility of a queen suite there!
thanks for the heads up, this totally changes my top 3 now. i was hoping for a queen suite for the 19-23. :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 25, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
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thanks for the heads up, this totally changes my top 3 now. i was hoping for a queen suite for the 19-23.

I was too!  I mean, take what they told me with a grain of salt because who knows what could happen the day you get there to check in.  But I would just rather not risk it and end up with just a king bed for three people.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miclpea on April 25, 2017, 04:20:15 PM
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 25, 2017, 04:24:38 PM
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yikes...how do you think that fast?

Not to make fun of myself, but I actually don't think. When you think (even for a second) it ruins your string of filling out the form. So basically I got the point where I literally and physically tried to be a robot when I filled those forms. Just type and pray that I didn't make a mistake. I guess maybe I was lucky, but I was able to get a run of my Top choice for a few years in a row. Then last year hit. I didn't get into the form till nearly an hour later. What a waste.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 04:47:12 PM
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So say I don't get any of my top choices and choose the "any available hotel with lowest rate" and choose the waitlist option. If I get something in say Mission Valley and the waitlist option becomes available for a downtown hotel I should be able to switch right?

That's correct. I'd advise scanning this thread for some of the other comments about the waitlist process. Also, here's the official information from last year for reference. There could be some differences this year, maybe tied to the the announcements now going out in different groups.

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6478.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6478.0)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Evilregal30 on April 25, 2017, 04:58:37 PM
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That's correct. I'd advise scanning this thread for some of the other comments about the waitlist process. Also, here's the official information from last year for reference. There could be some differences this year, maybe tied to the the announcements now going out in different groups.

http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6478.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6478.0)

Thanks! Last year was the first year I have had to deal with the waitlist (I've been pretty lucky in the past) and with all these new options its making things confusing...
Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 04:58:39 PM
I've been following and participating in this thread, but I'm not the brightest bulb in the marquee, so I may have missed this if it's been discussed already. If I check the I will accept an upgrade/ higher rated room box and check the book me closest to the convention center, regardless of rate box AND check the place me on the waitlist box, can I refuse the room if it's ridiculously expensive and still be on the waitlist?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 05:08:09 PM
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I've been following and participating in this thread, but I'm not the brightest bulb in the marquee, so I may have missed this if it's been discussed already. If I check the I will accept an upgrade/ higher rated room box and check the book me closest to the convention center, regardless of rate box AND check the place me on the waitlist box, can I refuse the room if it's ridiculously expensive and still be on the waitlist?


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You should be fine (if things work like previous years.) Last year we did not book our originally assigned room but were still part of the waitlist.

Also, has anyone heard of somebody getting a super high rate by checking that option? Or is it getting a higher room tier for a hotel you requested?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 25, 2017, 05:26:04 PM
"To receive a refund on a previously held reservation, you will need to complete a form to cancel your old reservation on the same date as the new reservation is made. If you fail to cancel or if you give your original room to another guest, both reservations are subject to cancellation with penalties."

How do you think this is going to affect reservation exchanges? or am I completely reading this wrong
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 05:28:50 PM
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"To receive a refund on a previously held reservation, you will need to complete a form to cancel your old reservation on the same date as the new reservation is made. If you fail to cancel or if you give your original room to another guest, both reservations are subject to cancellation with penalties."

How do you think this is going to affect reservation exchanges? or am I completely reading this wrong
Changes Policy
Changes can be made by accessing your reservation online. Access your reservation via the link in your onPeak confirmation or by visiting http://www.comic-con.org/cci/hotels and click on the "Make Your Hotel Reservations" button to reach the login screen. Changes can also be made by phone at 1-877-55-COMIC (1-877-552-6642). Changes are on a request basis and are subject to the availability/discretion of the hotel.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LB42 on April 25, 2017, 05:54:31 PM
Hi everyone,

Quick last minute questions - that I should have worked out long ago.  If I am interested in a hotel that has different prices based on 4 night stay or not, do you need to preference that hotel twice on your hotel list?  Ex:  Select : Hotel Indigo - 4 night stay, and also select Hotel Indigo less than 4 night stay in the drop down.  I would be happy to pay the less than 4 night stay rate for 4 nights if it came to that. After 4 straight years of having to pay the inflated rack rate -   $300 per night sounds like a dream!  Only at Disney or SDCC would you ever hear that! Thanks for any advice in advance...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 25, 2017, 06:09:34 PM
I just moved the instructions/link's thread into the hotel exchange

SDCC 2017 Hotel Exchange Links, Instructions and FAQ
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7917.0

a special thanks goes out to the team who put this together, especially the maven of google docs [member=3724]jristen[/member] & [member=2339]NCDS[/member] and [member=314]Transmute Jun[/member] for explaining it to everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 25, 2017, 06:44:27 PM
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Just an FYI regarding the Hard Rock - I just called them to find out whether the "Suites" they're offering during the lottery tomorrow are king suites or queen suites or both.  They told me that there are no queen suites available July 20-22, so if we got a suite through the lottery, it would be a king suite.  Just wanted to throw it out there in case anyone was banking on the possibility of a queen suite there!

Do the king suites have two beds or do they have one bed and a couch?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on April 25, 2017, 06:46:14 PM
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Also, has anyone heard of somebody getting a super high rate by checking that option? Or is it getting a higher room tier for a hotel you requested?

A few years ago we checked the box and were offered a $900/night suite at the MGH.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 25, 2017, 06:50:25 PM
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Do the king suites have two beds or do they have one bed and a couch?

The king suite has one king size bed.  That's it.  There's also a couch but the lady I spoke with on the phone said "it's not that comfortable so I wouldn't want to sleep on it at night"...she said that rollaway beds are an option but they would be subject to availability and a nightly fee.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 25, 2017, 06:53:58 PM
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The king suite has one king size bed.  That's it.  There's also a couch but the lady I spoke with on the phone said "it's not that comfortable so I wouldn't want to sleep on it at night"...she said that rollaway beds are an option but they would be subject to availability and a nightly fee.

Yeah, right after I asked the question I looked at the website http://www.hardrockhotelsd.com/san-diego-suites.php

So the studio rooms are actually better for more people and less expensive.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 07:13:03 PM
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Hi everyone,

Quick last minute questions - that I should have worked out long ago.  If I am interested in a hotel that has different prices based on 4 night stay or not, do you need to preference that hotel twice on your hotel list?  Ex:  Select : Hotel Indigo - 4 night stay, and also select Hotel Indigo less than 4 night stay in the drop down.  I would be happy to pay the less than 4 night stay rate for 4 nights if it came to that. After 4 straight years of having to pay the inflated rack rate -   $300 per night sounds like a dream!  Only at Disney or SDCC would you ever hear that! Thanks for any advice in advance...

That's a really good question, I wish I knew the answer, hopefully someone else will. I don't know if they have different room allocations for the different rates. Some of the other hotels require different selections for different room types and you would have to select the different options to try for the different kinds of rooms.

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A few years ago we checked the box and were offered a $900/night suite at the MGH.

Wow, good to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: newbie12 on April 25, 2017, 07:15:04 PM
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A few years ago we checked the box and were offered a $900/night suite at the MGH.
So what happened? Were you able to turn it down and stay on wait list?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 25, 2017, 07:38:43 PM
Quick last minute clarification. Since I've asked others and I'm still confused. So I think we're all in agreement that the box for "If the only room(s) available at my specified hotels are at an upgraded/higher nightly rate, book my reservation into those room(s) at my specified hotels. NOTE: Nightly rates can be substantially higher than the rates posted above. Checking this box DOES NOT guarantee you will get a room." is pretty clear. One of our hotels if they have a suite or something higher left, they'll offer it to us, but say at $900 such as in [member=842]TardisMom[/member] 's example.

Can we come to some sort of agreement on the box below it? "Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate." Does this mean the same as the above box, but instead of just our choices, it'll potentially offer us $900 suites but from ALL available downtown hotels? or does it mean something more specific. It'll give us the option of a hotel as close to the convention center as possible but with the normal OnPeak rates? So say Hilton Bayfront is available. They offer it to me for $309 (even though it's not in my Top 6) Or is it just like the above box?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Pixie Elf 33 on April 25, 2017, 07:56:04 PM
Does anyone know how much time we get to fill the form out and submit?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 08:02:25 PM
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Quick last minute clarification. Since I've asked others and I'm still confused. So I think we're all in agreement that the box for "If the only room(s) available at my specified hotels are at an upgraded/higher nightly rate, book my reservation into those room(s) at my specified hotels. NOTE: Nightly rates can be substantially higher than the rates posted above. Checking this box DOES NOT guarantee you will get a room." is pretty clear. One of our hotels if they have a suite or something higher left, they'll offer it to us, but say at $900 such as in [member=842]TardisMom[/member] 's example.

Can we come to some sort of agreement on the box below it? "Book me at a hotel that is closest to the convention center, regardless of rate." Does this mean the same as the above box, but instead of just our choices, it'll potentially offer us $900 suites but from ALL available downtown hotels? or does it mean something more specific. It'll give us the option of a hotel as close to the convention center as possible but with the normal OnPeak rates? So say Hilton Bayfront is available. They offer it to me for $309 (even though it's not in my Top 6) Or is it just like the above box?

Given the other options you can select, I think it is strictly a way to order the available hotels that are not in your list if nothing on your list(s) is available when your form is processed. So you can have them ordered by distance or price (both of these are new options) or instead have it restricted to the shuttle route. But I have to imagine the rates would be limited to the official ones in the sale, assuming you didn't also check the upgraded/higher nightly rate option.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jamiesugah on April 25, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
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Does anyone know how much time we get to fill the form out and submit?

I want to say 15 minutes?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 25, 2017, 08:07:47 PM
10 minutes to submit your form.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 25, 2017, 08:09:19 PM
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Given the other options you can select, I think it is strictly a way to order the available hotels that are not in your list if nothing on your list(s) is available when your form is processed. So you can have them ordered by distance or price (both of these are new options) or instead have it restricted to the shuttle route. But I have to imagine the rates would be limited to the official ones in the sale, assuming you didn't also check the upgraded/higher nightly rate option.

This is what I am hoping for. I don't want any of my Top 6 if it means higher prices than the listed ones. In that case, I'd rather just take one of the others.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Pixie Elf 33 on April 25, 2017, 08:38:31 PM
Do we know if there is any advantage to including your member ID on the form? It's a field on the form but it's not required.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 08:39:32 PM
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Do we know if there is any advantage to including your member ID on the form? It's a field on the form but it's not required.
It may help to establish non-duplication.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 25, 2017, 08:42:45 PM
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Do we know if there is any advantage to including your member ID on the form? It's a field on the form but it's not required.

No one really knows. Based on their comments about randomization, my guess is that it won't give you an advantage in the initial selection process.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: larry999 on April 25, 2017, 09:04:47 PM
I haven't posted on here in awhile. Just wanted to say good luck tomorrow, everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 09:07:48 PM
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I haven't posted on here in awhile. Just wanted to say good luck tomorrow, everyone!
Thanks Larry999! We are one with the force and the force is with us!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 25, 2017, 09:09:02 PM
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I haven't posted on here in awhile. Just wanted to say good luck tomorrow, everyone!

Good luck!

And screenshots everyone, don't forget screenshots.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foosbabaganoosh on April 25, 2017, 09:11:35 PM
Does anyone know if choosing 1 or 2rooms gives you better chances? My friends and I are trying to secure two rooms, should we:

A. first person to get in requests 2 hotel rooms (for all of us)
or
B. first person to get in requests 1 hotel room, and then we wait until another person gets in to request another 1 hotel room.

I'm just a little unclear as to whether any sort of priority is given to people who request 1 room as opposed to more. Or is it just that when you get into the request form it doesn't matter how many rooms you request, if your top hotel choice is available you'll get it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 25, 2017, 09:18:22 PM
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Good luck!

And screenshots everyone, don't forget screenshots.
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 25, 2017, 09:35:00 PM
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Does anyone know if choosing 1 or 2rooms gives you better chances? My friends and I are trying to secure two rooms, should we:

A. first person to get in requests 2 hotel rooms (for all of us)
or
B. first person to get in requests 1 hotel room, and then we wait until another person gets in to request another 1 hotel room.

I'm just a little unclear as to whether any sort of priority is given to people who request 1 room as opposed to more. Or is it just that when you get into the request form it doesn't matter how many rooms you request, if your top hotel choice is available you'll get it.

As far as we know, OnPeak assigns a random order that does not take into account any other factors and hotels are assigned based on that order. Requesting two rooms instead of one does mean that they will make sure all rooms are at the same hotel. So if you happen to be that unlucky person right on the edge, a second room could knock you out of your preferred hotel. On the other hand, a second form could get in too late to even get anything. There's not a definite answer, it's just whatever you're comfortable with imo - just make sure none of your forms get tossed out as duplicates.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TardisMom on April 25, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
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So what happened? Were you able to turn it down and stay on wait list?

We just turned it down.  We had entered with friends and someone else got a room that we accepted.

It is actually a long story, basically though it was back when you typed SUPER FAST to enter and it was my daughter's entry, and we had proof of the entry time.  She didn't get anything and I called and made a fuss to try to get a room so we could give it to someone here on the forum.  We failed.  I posted the $900 room but of course no one wanted it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: 1mrlee on April 25, 2017, 09:54:54 PM
Hotel stay (2 nights, 3 days) in San Diego during SDCC

Hello all,

I booked some nonrefundable hotel rooms for SDCC (San Diego Comic Con), but unfortunately cannot make it now.

It’s only a 8 min walk from the San Diego Convention Center. Will transfer the name to whomever needs it.

The booking is for Friday July 21st — Sunday July 23rd. 2 nights, Studio Suite. 1 Full Bed. Non smoking. In Gaslamp area.

I paid $210 USD for these two nights. Happy to let them go for $200 USD.

I’m sure most (if not all) of the hotels are booked out by now. (Or more expensive)

I’ve also already confirmed with the hotel that the name transfer is allowed.

Please let me know via messages. Will accept paypal. If you need verification on who I am etc. I'm happy to supply details.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tt7777 on April 25, 2017, 09:59:39 PM
Which hotel?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 25, 2017, 10:23:58 PM
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Hotel stay (2 nights, 3 days) in San Diego during SDCC

Hello all,

I booked some nonrefundable hotel rooms for SDCC (San Diego Comic Con), but unfortunately cannot make it now.

It’s only a 8 min walk from the San Diego Convention Center. Will transfer the name to whomever needs it.

The booking is for Friday July 21st — Sunday July 23rd. 2 nights, Studio Suite. 1 Full Bed. Non smoking. In Gaslamp area.

I paid $210 USD for these two nights. Happy to let them go for $200 USD.

I’m sure most (if not all) of the hotels are booked out by now. (Or more expensive)

I’ve also already confirmed with the hotel that the name transfer is allowed.

Please let me know via messages. Will accept paypal. If you need verification on who I am etc. I'm happy to supply details.

The hotel sale is tomorrow.  No one will want to take your hotel until they know what they will get then you will need to be an active forum member to post it in the hotel exchange.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NCDS on April 25, 2017, 10:29:37 PM
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Does anyone know how much time we get to fill the form out and submit?

They say it is when you get in not when you hit submit.   SO take your time but I still wouldn't take 20 mins to fill it out.  I would get paranoid I was taking to long.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 25, 2017, 10:41:57 PM
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lol, yes that was me. I had totally forgotten about that :) The coda would have to be that the gods of the sale gave us Town and Country, so we abandoned the hunt and went AirBNB.

so I shouldn't list T&C as a non DT list? was reading the horrible reviews from just other ppl this year
 so far it looks like just Doubletree and Marriot MV closest to trolley but also the furthest
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NeedaRoomPlease on April 25, 2017, 10:49:38 PM
Please forgive me but I am totally confused. Do you have to choose 1 of the 4 choices if your room is unavailable if you choose waitlist me? I was going to put book me at room closest to the convention center regardless of rate(due to my knee) and waitlist or can I just choose waitlist or should I ? I get nervous checking regardless of rate, but need to be near the con cause of my injury.

Also, do you have more of a shot at a top tier hotel if you choose 1bed instead of 2 queens? Also, will choosing 2 rooms as opposed to 1 lessen your chance? Thanks :) .
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tygers on April 26, 2017, 04:25:32 AM
Good luck today, folks!  May your forms load quickly and your typing fingers be steady.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: debster on April 26, 2017, 04:31:00 AM
Woke up this morning super nervous for the hotel sale - good luck, everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 26, 2017, 04:33:10 AM
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Please forgive me but I am totally confused. Do you have to choose 1 of the 4 choices if your room is unavailable if you choose waitlist me? I was going to put book me at room closest to the convention center regardless of rate(due to my knee) and waitlist or can I just choose waitlist or should I ? I get nervous checking regardless of rate, but need to be near the con cause of my injury.

Also, do you have more of a shot at a top tier hotel if you choose 1bed instead of 2 queens? Also, will choosing 2 rooms as opposed to 1 lessen your chance? Thanks :) .

all of those questions are really personal choice- and it's really what you feel comfortable with. I will say if you do get an expensive suite somewhere, it's likely that you can trade it.
I have found that 1bed rooms seem to be easier to get but...
i will choose wait list

bottom line- it's your choice
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sweetiepiepen on April 26, 2017, 04:50:33 AM
Anyone personally have success getting a reservation by calling rather than using the online option? Know anyone who has? Just curious.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: l0islane on April 26, 2017, 05:22:26 AM
Hi everyone

This is our first year at SDCC and we're coming from the UK.  We held a (refundable) booking at Days Inn And Suites San Diego Near Sea World which we got for 5 nights for just under $500 total.  Googlemaps tells me that it's a relatively easy journey of 30 - 40 mins to the convention centre, but I haven't seen this hotel mentioned anywhere and I can't see any reviews from people who have stayed there during SDCC and it seems remarkably cheap!  Is Googlemaps correct and it's an easy journey or are we making a mistake by staying there? I know there's some walking involved but neither of us have any problem with that. 

Any advice you can give would be great.  Thanks, and good luck in the hotel draw later :)

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RighteousRita on April 26, 2017, 05:43:48 AM
Good Luck To All. May All Your Hotel Wishes Come True.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 26, 2017, 05:59:03 AM
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Hi everyone

This is our first year at SDCC and we're coming from the UK.  We held a (refundable) booking at Days Inn And Suites San Diego Near Sea World which we got for 5 nights for just under $500 total.  Googlemaps tells me that it's a relatively easy journey of 30 - 40 mins to the convention centre, but I haven't seen this hotel mentioned anywhere and I can't see any reviews from people who have stayed there during SDCC and it seems remarkably cheap!  Is Googlemaps correct and it's an easy journey or are we making a mistake by staying there? I know there's some walking involved but neither of us have any problem with that. 

Any advice you can give would be great.  Thanks, and good luck in the hotel draw later :)


i don't mind clean 2 star hotels- my concern would be in how to travel back & forth. Do you have a rental car? is there public transportation?
while i in general don't mind walking- i would recommend planing on making it as easy on yourselves as possible- aside from the physical issues there is the amount of time it takes to walk somewhere.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 06:19:12 AM
Anyone else's stomach in knots this morning? I feel like I can't be productive at all until this morning is over...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sweetiepiepen on April 26, 2017, 06:20:29 AM
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Anyone else's stomach in knots this morning? I feel like I can't be productive at all until this morning is over...
Right there with you.  Asking all my co workers and friends to send positive vibes my way. 

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Bionic 7 on April 26, 2017, 06:42:57 AM
Best of luck to everyone going for hotel rooms today!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: loubert on April 26, 2017, 06:45:46 AM
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How wrong is it that since I have access to 30 laptops in a cart at work, I'm considering logging all of them on and opening a window on each one to up my chances of getting access to the form earlier?   :'(

That's what I'll be doing! I've even recruited a student to help me monitor the computers (since the sale falls during our lunch period).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sweetiepiepen on April 26, 2017, 06:46:49 AM
May the odds be ever in all of our favor today.  😉

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miterin on April 26, 2017, 06:48:28 AM
Omg I'm sooooo nervous lol. So quick question on what do you think I should do. It will be myself , husband, and 2 teenage kids going. I was going to have us all logged in this morning for hotels each having different info. Do you think that's necessary or just the first one to get through do that one. Since it's pretty much timed based on when you get access to the form. I don't want to get my submissions pulled. I made sure all out info is different
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: loubert on April 26, 2017, 06:52:14 AM
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Does anyone know if choosing 1 or 2rooms gives you better chances? My friends and I are trying to secure two rooms, should we:

A. first person to get in requests 2 hotel rooms (for all of us)
or
B. first person to get in requests 1 hotel room, and then we wait until another person gets in to request another 1 hotel room.

I'm just a little unclear as to whether any sort of priority is given to people who request 1 room as opposed to more. Or is it just that when you get into the request form it doesn't matter how many rooms you request, if your top hotel choice is available you'll get it.

If I could get an OnPeak exec in a room and ask her or him my top 5 questions about the Comic-Con hotel reservation process, this question would definitely be one of them that I would ask! I would LOVE a definitive answer.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 06:55:38 AM
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Anyone else's stomach in knots this morning? I feel like I can't be productive at all until this morning is over...

Not really.  I got more nervous in the days when it was about how fast you could connect and how fast you can type.  I used to have connection problems that delayed my entry and I got so nervous about it, my hands would shake while typing.

Now, I know my network's performance and my own performance aren't a factor.  So, I'm much more relaxed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Imogen16 on April 26, 2017, 07:11:24 AM
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Anyone else's stomach in knots this morning? I feel like I can't be productive at all until this morning is over...


Yep. I'm in the UK and it's 3 in the afternoon here. I have literally done nothing all day because my mind is so focused on the hotel sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sweetiepiepen on April 26, 2017, 07:11:54 AM
If you request 3 rooms and get them,  can 3 different credit cards be put on the rooms for the deposit or will they all need to be on the same card for deposit?

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: BenEatsRice on April 26, 2017, 07:13:11 AM
What's the most popular option for "type of room" (i.e. double, quad, etc.)? I'm gonna join in on the action this morning and try to help someone out. I live in SD and won't need the room. I'll probably try to book Wed-Sun.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Lavendar on April 26, 2017, 07:18:25 AM
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What's the most popular option for "type of room" (i.e. double, quad, etc.)? I'm gonna join in on the action this morning and try to help someone out. I live in SD and won't need the room. I'll probably try to book Wed-Sun.
Awesome of you prob 2 beds but doubt it mztters, in general i can't what i reserve at a hotel
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on April 26, 2017, 07:18:35 AM
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What's the most popular option for "type of room" (i.e. double, quad, etc.)? I'm gonna join in on the action this morning and try to help someone out. I live in SD and won't need the room. I'll probably try to book Wed-Sun.

I usually try for a quad room, just because it will be easier for the people to switch the names on the reservation.  (Plus, people share rooms with their friends anyways.)

I'll be trying for a hotel room as well.  I'm hoping I can get one and pass it on to a forum member in need.  Like [member=4801]BenEatsRice[/member], I'm local in S.D., so I don't need hotel space.  :]
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lauranna on April 26, 2017, 07:20:06 AM
What do you mean? African or European swallow?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lauranna on April 26, 2017, 07:22:10 AM
I just noticed the Pendry wasn't on the list. Anyone know what's going on with it?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 07:28:53 AM
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I just noticed the Pendry wasn't on the list. Anyone know what's going on with it?

No.  Just a lot of speculation.  There's a separate thread about the hotel, if you want to read the speculation.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: BenEatsRice on April 26, 2017, 07:33:39 AM
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I just noticed the Pendry wasn't on the list. Anyone know what's going on with it?
http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=6266.0
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lilredrubi74 on April 26, 2017, 07:38:31 AM
My nerves are frayed this morning
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 07:40:31 AM
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That's what I'll be doing! I've even recruited a student to help me monitor the computers (since the sale falls during our lunch period).

Ha! I wish I had it that easy! The sale is at 11am for me. One class ends at 10:47 and the next starts at 10:54. I told all my kids on Monday that they better come in and go straight to their seats so that I can pass out their tests and get them started before 11am or I will not be in a very good mood for the rest of the day.  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 07:42:48 AM
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Yep. I'm in the UK and it's 3 in the afternoon here. I have literally done nothing all day because my mind is so focused on the hotel sale.

It happens at 11am for me, and my classes are all testing today, so I've been pacing around the room while their testing nervously worrying about the hotel sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 07:44:24 AM
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I usually try for a quad room, just because it will be easier for the people to switch the names on the reservation.  (Plus, people share rooms with their friends anyways.)

I'll be trying for a hotel room as well.  I'm hoping I can get one and pass it on to a forum member in need.  Like [member=4801]BenEatsRice[/member], I'm local in S.D., so I don't need hotel space.  :]

Do you know...if you put a quad, do you have to fill in names for all 4 occupants? Or can you leave them blank and fill in later?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Froggy on April 26, 2017, 07:48:30 AM
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Do you know...if you put a quad, do you have to fill in names for all 4 occupants? Or can you leave them blank and fill in later?
Yes, you have to put all 4 names.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 07:51:49 AM
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Yes, you have to put all 4 names.

I figured. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dville on April 26, 2017, 07:54:15 AM
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Omg I'm sooooo nervous lol. So quick question on what do you think I should do. It will be myself , husband, and 2 teenage kids going. I was going to have us all logged in this morning for hotels each having different info. Do you think that's necessary or just the first one to get through do that one. Since it's pretty much timed based on when you get access to the form. I don't want to get my submissions pulled. I made sure all out info is different

I was wondering that too.  And do you only put the adult names down?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 26, 2017, 07:55:04 AM
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Omg I'm sooooo nervous lol. So quick question on what do you think I should do. It will be myself , husband, and 2 teenage kids going. I was going to have us all logged in this morning for hotels each having different info. Do you think that's necessary or just the first one to get through do that one. Since it's pretty much timed based on when you get access to the form. I don't want to get my submissions pulled. I made sure all out info is different
i would think the more submitted for your group the better your chances just in case. just dont have the same information just to be safe. at least that is what i would do myself. especially if you really want a downtown hotel.

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I was wondering that too.  And do you only put the adult names down?

last year i put my kids names down during the hotel sale. a total of 4 of us.


good luck everybody in today's hotel sale. i hope we all get our #1 choice.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 26, 2017, 07:57:23 AM
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Do you know...if you put a quad, do you have to fill in names for all 4 occupants? Or can you leave them blank and fill in later?

you might want to just seclect a twin (two beds) that way you can only put 2 names down. after the sale adjust it up
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miterin on April 26, 2017, 07:59:11 AM
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you might want to just seclect a twin (two beds) that way you can only put 2 names down. after the sale adjust it up

I put quad last year and we got a king. Not fun for 4 people lol
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 26, 2017, 07:59:30 AM
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Yes, you have to put all 4 names.

Previously when we've tried for a quad...we just requested 2 people, 2 beds, and just did 2 names. We would fix it later when we actually secured a room. The price would go up a bit after finalizing. Of course, that was when we had to fill out the form like speedracer and it saved time to just do 2 names.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chungerrr on April 26, 2017, 08:01:39 AM
I'm in the waiting room now. Will they bring us into the purchase page automatically? Or do I need to refresh the page at 9AM?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 26, 2017, 08:02:00 AM
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I put quad last year and we got a king. Not fun for 4 people lol
that sucks

which hotel did they give you from last years sale?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 26, 2017, 08:03:03 AM
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I'm in the waiting room now. Will they bring us into the purchase page automatically? Or do I need to refresh the page at 9AM?

Just hang tight. They will do that for you. Its like the badge sale.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miterin on April 26, 2017, 08:04:11 AM
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that sucks

which hotel did they give you from last years sale?

MMM
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mdgeist316 on April 26, 2017, 08:05:19 AM
I forgot, multiple browsers do or do not work for this?

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 08:06:23 AM
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you might want to just seclect a twin (two beds) that way you can only put 2 names down. after the sale adjust it up

Hmm...may do this just to save time. I know they say it doesn't matter and they process on access time and not submission time...but i'd rather be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Zero on April 26, 2017, 08:08:43 AM
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Hmm...may do this just to save time. I know they say it doesn't matter and they process on access time and not submission time...but i'd rather be safe than sorry.

Quad or double...  Just type something in the room list and go forward with your hotel lottery form submission.  :]
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: debster on April 26, 2017, 08:11:37 AM
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I forgot, multiple browsers do or do not work for this?

I think you can use multiple browsers.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 26, 2017, 08:12:55 AM
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I think you can use multiple browsers.
i hope you can, because im using multiple different browsers right now. ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 08:15:01 AM
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i hope you can, because im using multiple different browsers right now. ;)

Same!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joey125 on April 26, 2017, 08:15:57 AM
I have email link but it still says coming soon? Suggestions?(http://)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mdgeist316 on April 26, 2017, 08:18:00 AM
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I have email link but it still says coming soon? Suggestions?(http://)

Close your browser, then open the link again. That should put you in the waiting room.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 08:18:28 AM
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i hope you can, because im using multiple different browsers right now. ;)
I have the same queue id at the bottom of each browser.  Unofficial blog says the id is supposed to be unique. Is it? If it is then multiple browsers don't work?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 26, 2017, 08:20:43 AM
good luck everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 08:21:39 AM
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I have the same queue id at the bottom of each browser.  Unofficial blog says the id is supposed to be unique. Is it? If it is then multiple browsers don't work?

I have 2 laptops and a phone and all have different queue IDs at the bottom...so idk.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:21:51 AM
My queue ID numbers are all different. Phew!

I hope everyone gets in fast!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 26, 2017, 08:22:10 AM
sorry for double post but I forget from last year....does the waiting room page automatically refresh at 9am or do we have to manually refresh the page?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miterin on April 26, 2017, 08:22:16 AM
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I have the same queue id at the bottom of each browser.  Unofficial blog says the id is supposed to be unique. Is it? If it is then multiple browsers don't work?

I'm using a computer and my iPad. Each has a different code
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 08:24:25 AM
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I have the same queue id at the bottom of each browser.  Unofficial blog says the id is supposed to be unique. Is it? If it is then multiple browsers don't work?

You want to have different queue ids. If you are using multiple windows of the same browser then that could be the problem, unless you have created something like multiple users in chrome or multiple profiles in firefox and are using one window per user/profile.

If you use a window from 2 different browsers or on different computers/devices then you should get different queue uds.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Fazermint on April 26, 2017, 08:25:15 AM
I can't get the waiting page to show up. It goes to the "you're early" page still. I've closed and reopened the browser. Help?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:26:50 AM
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I can't get the waiting page to show up. It goes to the "you're early" page still. I've closed and reopened the browser. Help?

That happened to me too. You have to go back to the original link. Do NOT refresh the 'you're early' page.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joey125 on April 26, 2017, 08:27:06 AM
Me, too. I've shut everything down and gone back to my mail.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 08:28:22 AM
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You want to have different queue ids. If you are using multiple windows of the same browser then that could be the problem, unless you have created something like multiple users in chrome or multiple profiles in firefox and are using one window per user/profile.

If you use a window from 2 different browsers or on different computers/devices then you should get different queue uds.

I've got a different code on two different devices, but two different browsers on the same device have the same code.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LuthienDragon on April 26, 2017, 08:29:05 AM
My different tabs in the same browser have same ID, is this normal?
Last year I didn't get a room because I thought it was only one tab per browser, lots of people who got it had like 20 tabs in the same browser. Did they block multiple tabs this year?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mdgeist316 on April 26, 2017, 08:31:05 AM
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I can't get the waiting page to show up. It goes to the "you're early" page still. I've closed and reopened the browser. Help?

Try manually typing https://cci.onpeak.info into a browser.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 08:31:51 AM
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My different tabs in the same browser have same ID, is this normal?
Last year I didn't get a room because I thought it was only one tab per browser, lots of people who got it had like 20 tabs in the same browser. Did they block multiple tabs this year?

Multiple tabs didn't work last year either... they all had the same queue id.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:33:42 AM
Yes, they all need to be in different browsers.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 08:34:04 AM
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I've got a different code on two different devices, but two different browsers on the same device have the same code.

Fixed.  had to clear cookies.  Not sure why that happened, but they're different now.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: force951 on April 26, 2017, 08:34:14 AM
I currently have 6 tabs open on 3 different computers, 1 each of chrome and IE per computer. Each entry into the waiting room has a different ID, i assume Firefox or another browser would also work.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LuthienDragon on April 26, 2017, 08:34:25 AM
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Multiple tabs didn't work last year either... they all had the same queue id.

Last year people were posting their screenshots with multiple tabs that different random waiting numbers, even if the ID was the same.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 08:35:11 AM
Using Chrome twice but on different devices. I'm assuming I'm good?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:36:04 AM
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Last year people were posting their screenshots with multiple tabs that different random waiting numbers, even if the ID was the same.

I think that's why they changed it this year... ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 08:37:38 AM
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Using Chrome twice but on different devices. I'm assuming I'm good?


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You might want to doublecheck that the ids are different, but you should be fine.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LuthienDragon on April 26, 2017, 08:41:21 AM
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I think that's why they changed it this year... ;)

What's the difference this year?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:42:38 AM
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What's the difference this year?

Only one session per browser.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 08:44:29 AM
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Only one session per browser.
So should I not be using Chrome for my two separate devices?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:45:25 AM
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So should I not be using Chrome for my two separate devices?

2 different devices is okay. It's just like badge sales: one window per browser OR device.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Dubb on April 26, 2017, 08:45:44 AM
I am using multiple browsers, yet all have the same queue ID :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: VeggieKitten on April 26, 2017, 08:46:53 AM
So nervous. Good luck, everyone.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 08:47:09 AM
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I am using multiple browsers, yet all have the same queue ID :(
To clarify then: I session per device. Period?


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:47:54 AM
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To clarify then: I session per device. Period?

Per device OR browser. So you can have Chrome and Firefox on one device, and Chrome and IE on another, etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: newbie12 on April 26, 2017, 08:48:00 AM
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I am using multiple browsers, yet all have the same queue ID :(
Did you use the same link for each?
The link that was sent to each person in my family had a different id.
So although I have multiple browsers open, each has a unique id as I used a different link for each.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
Thanks for the clarification!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 08:48:39 AM
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I am using multiple browsers, yet all have the same queue ID :(

Had the same problem before.  Close all but one browser.  Reopen the others and clear cookies/history.  Go back through your email and do not cut and paste the link.  Hopefully that'll do it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:49:15 AM
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Thanks for the clarification!

N/p, glad to help! Good luck!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: vegasndn on April 26, 2017, 08:49:15 AM
Good morning and good luck to all, I'm on three different devices for the lottery today. Let's go


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mdgeist316 on April 26, 2017, 08:50:09 AM
Is anyone going to dare try calling OnPeak in 10 minutes?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 08:51:23 AM
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Is anyone going to dare try calling OnPeak in 10 minutes?

Would be interesting to hear how that goes.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:51:45 AM
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Is anyone going to dare try calling OnPeak in 10 minutes?

I want to hear a recording of that call... ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Dubb on April 26, 2017, 08:52:13 AM
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Had the same problem before.  Close all but one browser.  Reopen the others and clear cookies/history.  Go back through your email and do not cut and paste the link.  Hopefully that'll do it.

Worked! Thanks!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mlgagne on April 26, 2017, 08:52:48 AM
Good luck today, all!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LuthienDragon on April 26, 2017, 08:53:18 AM
Is the hotel sale blocked for only people who have badges?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 08:54:03 AM
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Is the hotel sale blocked for only people who have badges?

No.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicskyline on April 26, 2017, 08:55:16 AM
Good luck, everyone! This is my first time doing the sale. Usually it's my roommate, but this year we decided to both go for it. I'm very nervous!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dville on April 26, 2017, 08:55:44 AM
The suspense!   :-\
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:55:59 AM
Come on... 9 o'clock! I'm waiting here!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
Good luck today!  Hotel Wi-Fi isn't agreeable so my fate is now in the hands of a Verizon hotspot. Fingers crossed.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 26, 2017, 08:57:18 AM
I have the best boss
he just came in on his day off to cover for me for the sale
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 08:57:51 AM
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I have the best boss
he just came in on his day off to cover for me for the sale

Your boss rocks! Make sure you buy him lunch!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RighteousRita on April 26, 2017, 08:59:03 AM
And it begins...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 08:59:04 AM
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he just came in on his day off to cover for me for the sale
That's so kind. :)

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 26, 2017, 09:00:35 AM
In line...with a loading bar.

First time doing this. Good luck everyone :D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RighteousRita on April 26, 2017, 09:03:12 AM
Just submitted my request
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: brand4d2 on April 26, 2017, 09:03:35 AM
Already done!  Good luck everyone! 

We are one with the force and the force is with us! 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 26, 2017, 09:03:45 AM
wow, I got in right away on my phone, my firefox and chrome browsers are still waiting. took my time and just submitted by I was in by 9:01
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: CaseyJones14 on April 26, 2017, 09:03:56 AM
Hooooooly cow I got in the first 30 seconds! I hope I filled out my form correctly ???
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 26, 2017, 09:05:02 AM
So close. This is moving fast.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 26, 2017, 09:06:31 AM
Submitted at 9:05 I think - hopefully that's good enough!!!!

Update: Just remembered submission time doesn't matter - I think I got into the form at 9:02
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 26, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
Got in the first minute on Internet explorer. 

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Godolphin on April 26, 2017, 09:07:06 AM
I was finished before 9.02, crossing my fingers
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on April 26, 2017, 09:07:18 AM
Yeah one of my browsers pretty much got in within 30 seconds, the other about 30 sec to a min after that, and I'm still waiting to get in with my last one. Good luck everyone! Can't believe we went from having to wait 2-3 days to ONE TO TWO WEEKS!!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 26, 2017, 09:08:07 AM
Im going to throw up
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Evilregal30 on April 26, 2017, 09:08:21 AM
I got in under a minute...This is still so stressful!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: v1ral on April 26, 2017, 09:08:27 AM
I'm traveling so my setup wasn't ideal, but hopefully it's the entry time that counts. Got in almost immediately but took what felt like foreverrr filling everything out haha.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Dubb on April 26, 2017, 09:08:32 AM
Mine wasn't just within 30 seconds, it was IMMEDIATE. 2 windows went to the bar, and the 3rd went straight to the form. I hope that is a good sign!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 09:08:38 AM
I'm thinking this won't be good for me this year. I think I didn't get in till 3 minutes in. I think 2 was the cutoff based on last years numbers.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LuthienDragon on April 26, 2017, 09:08:54 AM
Woohoo! Got in the first second! This time you get rooms based on timestamp of entry, right?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 26, 2017, 09:08:59 AM
Submitted at 12:10 Eastern
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 09:09:04 AM
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wow, I got in right away on my phone, my firefox and chrome browsers are still waiting. took my time and just submitted by I was in by 9:01

This happened to me too. Had Chrome on a Macbook and on a PC laptop and both took a couple minutes longer to load than my iphone did. Had the iphone on data instead of wifi...wonder if that had an impact...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tygers on April 26, 2017, 09:09:20 AM
Got in after 40 seconds. Submitted by two minutes after. Hope it does the trick!

Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: AreTwo on April 26, 2017, 09:09:33 AM
Ugh, didn't get access to form until 9:04. Hope I'm not screwed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 26, 2017, 09:09:41 AM
I did not get in fast at all like last year.  I had 4 sessions going and didn't get in until around 9:04 and by the time I had submitted the other sessions weren't in yet
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 26, 2017, 09:10:10 AM
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This happened to me too. Had Chrome on a Macbook and on a PC laptop and both took a couple minutes longer to load than my iphone did. Had the iphone on data instead of wifi...wonder if that had an impact...

Interesting, I also turned off Wifi on my phone and was using data.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Totorozzz on April 26, 2017, 09:10:40 AM
Got in 3 minutes after it started.. Not sure how it is going to go this year...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: quantumslip on April 26, 2017, 09:11:16 AM
Im kind of hoping they stretched things out, but I dunno. Didndt get in till like almost 7 minutes in. I had other browsers/comps open but they didnt do any better.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: justboogie on April 26, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
My wife and brother got in at 9:01am. I got in at 9:05am.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 09:12:24 AM
Yikes, that was all over the place!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 26, 2017, 09:12:45 AM
Had six different browsers running and the first form load happened at 9:00:55, using Opera. It felt oddly pleasant to casually select everything from that point on and not have to bum rush like a maniac. Roommate had her form load only 5-10 seconds after mine.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: debster on April 26, 2017, 09:13:20 AM
9:04 for me, hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 26, 2017, 09:13:39 AM
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I'm traveling so my setup wasn't ideal, but hopefully it's the entry time that counts. Got in almost immediately but took what felt like foreverrr filling everything out haha.

They keep saying over and over that it is the entry time so I'm guessing that's what it really is. I took a little while filling out my form too because I was on my phone and I was shaking, lol. But I got in immediately. Fingers crossed for both of us!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Nimitz on April 26, 2017, 09:14:50 AM
Got in at 12:10 ugh!! and may 1st I will be sleeping in a bed as I am flying to Vietnam for a 3 week vacation.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: frgx on April 26, 2017, 09:14:58 AM
Got in at 9:08, so we'll see. I already have a backup hotel so not really stressing.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Applescruff on April 26, 2017, 09:15:34 AM
This is going to be the longest wait ever.  Absolute torture.  Here's wishing the best for everyone!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 26, 2017, 09:15:56 AM
Very strange feelings this year.  Strangely quiet and moved soooo quickly.  Now we wait...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jason on April 26, 2017, 09:16:19 AM
I had all of my team members in my old department logged in and one of them got in right at 9:00 pacific/11:00 central. I got in on my own computer at 11:03 but just closed the form instead of doing another submission under my friend's name.

I didn't see The Bristol on the list and panicked and put The Omni as my #6 choice.

I did Hampton Inn, Wyndham Bayside, Horton Grand, Four Points by Sheraton, Westin San Diego and Omni.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: susanml10881 on April 26, 2017, 09:17:39 AM
Oh geez, I got in at 9:10 and I thought that was good. Oh well, I tried.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mdgeist316 on April 26, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Wow. I got into the form at 10:00:30 AM MST.

I'm surprised at how fast and smooth this process was.

Why no Coronado hotels though? That was my first non-DT choice.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dville on April 26, 2017, 09:18:06 AM
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I'm thinking this won't be good for me this year. I think I didn't get in till 3 minutes in. I think 2 was the cutoff based on last years numbers.

I didn't get in until around the same time.  Very concerned also, but it does seem a bit slower this year, so I am going to hang on to that...so I don't cry  :'(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Breq on April 26, 2017, 09:18:11 AM
Ahh, I got in on my phone first but got a no internet connection message when I submitted!  >:( :( Then I filled out the form on the browser window that had loaded next, but I didn't click that link immediately because I had been looking at my phone and didn't see it... well, I doubt my top choice hotels are the most popular, so hopefully I still have a chance... shouldn't have left the wifi on!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 26, 2017, 09:18:45 AM
I had a total of 10 browsers going, the first one that got in was I think within the first minute -- and oddly on that computer, it was the same queue ID in two browsers and they got in at different times.  Go figure.  By the time I finished that one, 2 of my other ones were in.  The rest were still working.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
He got in at 9:03 and I got in at 9:05. Started one session on my phone to see how it would go after the 9 am start time and that one got in around 9:15.  Already having submission anxiety and wishing I would have left non downtown list blank. Afraid they'll skip over downtown and book me in one of those now.  Wish there was play submit regret editing options.  Hope everyone else did well.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 26, 2017, 09:19:29 AM
what was everyones choices?

in order mine were

Omni
Hilton Gaslamp
Manchester Grand Hyatt
Marriott Marquis & Marina
Marriott Gaslamp
Westin Gaslamp

I didn't put any non-downtown hotels.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: VeggieKitten on April 26, 2017, 09:19:42 AM
Too panicked to check the time when I first got access. By the time I remembered to look at the clock, it was 9:01. Anyone know if we'll get a recap email this year to confirm what we selected?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jumping Jehosaphat on April 26, 2017, 09:19:55 AM
Good thing I have a cheap room already booked. I feel like SDCC really doesn't want me to be there. I didn't get in until 12 minutes after.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ripresa on April 26, 2017, 09:20:16 AM
I'm either 9:02 or 9:03 depending on whether it's when they give you access, or when you click the button.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 09:20:28 AM
(https://img.memesuper.com/0d94db5e7d81dee774e50baa5aee41ff_3-an-impatient-vizzini-anxiously-waiting-meme_400-400.jpeg)

Yoda says it best...how long until May 1st? If i have to wait until May 8th...I may go crazy...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ThePuffyTaco on April 26, 2017, 09:20:43 AM
Did anyone submit and then get sent back into the waiting room? And then get in again?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 26, 2017, 09:21:29 AM
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Did anyone submit and then get sent back into the waiting room? And then get in again?

Nope.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: JKingoftheNerds on April 26, 2017, 09:23:11 AM
Got in at about the 20 second mark. Submitted at 12:02. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dville on April 26, 2017, 09:24:05 AM
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I'm either 9:02 or 9:03 depending on whether it's when they give you access, or when you click the button.

I was wondering that too.  Is it the time the little running man starts running or the time you have to physically click the button, or what?  As odd as it sounds, I know seconds probably count.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mdgeist316 on April 26, 2017, 09:24:31 AM
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what was everyones choices?

in order mine were

Omni
Hilton Gaslamp
Manchester Grand Hyatt
Marriott Marquis & Marina
Marriott Gaslamp
Westin Gaslamp

I didn't put any non-downtown hotels.

Now I'm going to be worried that putting non-downtown hotels will come back to bite me.

1. Bayfront
2. MMM
3. Omni
4. Embassy Suites (Love that free breakfast buffet)
5. Courtyard Gaslamp
6. Manchester Grand Hyatt
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: saban on April 26, 2017, 09:24:47 AM
Did anyone else have issue with the dropdown form?  I had to refresh the page in order for it to work, I wonder if my time stamp will be the initial entry or after I refreshed.  Once I refreshed I had to click on the page stating that I was over 18, didn't have to do that for the initial load.  Ahh I guess we'll wait until May.  Ugh so stressful.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 09:25:21 AM
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Wow. I got into the form at 10:00:30 AM MST.

I'm surprised at how fast and smooth this process was.

Why no Coronado hotels though? That was my first non-DT choice.

Hmm. You're right, that's weird, they were on the official list. I don't know if they were on there when I first saw the form.

Also, another bump to go fill out an entry in this thread with your times and the options you chose http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0) If you want you can enter some of the information now then go back and update with your results, make separate entries, whatever is easiest for you.

Bonus points for filling in the form access and completion times from your cache, some instructions are in the first post in the thread. As you can imagine, the stress makes it hard to estimate the time things happen.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jumping Jehosaphat on April 26, 2017, 09:26:36 AM
My choices were=
Hilton Bayfront
Hard Rock
Manchester
Omni
Marriot Marquis
Hilton Gaslamp

I said any DT hotel.

I already have a further away place booked if I don't get Gaslamp, which it looks like I won't. That's fine.


edit- I had two browsers open; they let me in at the same time.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: nvj29 on April 26, 2017, 09:26:40 AM
Got in around same time as last year. Hoping for better results as we don't want to stay downtown, really want the airport location.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chirigami on April 26, 2017, 09:26:47 AM
That wasn't too bad, compared to other years ~ not as stressful but still had a little bit.  Had to do my sister's form again 'cause she panicked like with the badge sales.  She was in under a minute, same with a friend also trying.  I was in within 5 minutes or so?  I just worried about the whole flagging issue x.o  Used as many different things as we could besides hotel choices.

Our choices were: Residence Inn Downtown/Bayfront, Residence Inn Gaslamp, Sprinfield Suites, Marquis and Marina, Omni and Manchester
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on April 26, 2017, 09:26:49 AM
Did anyone notice that CCI stated that after May 15th those who weren't assigned their Top 6 or Top 12 can just book whatever is available.

Sooooooooo is that essentially the waiting list?

Makes sense considering it's up to two weeks after the first round of requests.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 26, 2017, 09:27:38 AM
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Now I'm going to be worried that putting non-downtown hotels will come back to bite me.

1. Bayfront
2. MMM
3. Omni
4. Embassy Suites (Love that free breakfast buffet)
5. Courtyard Gaslamp
6. Manchester Grand Hyatt

1. Bayfront
2. MMM
3. Hard Rock
4. Hilton Gaslamp
5. Omni
6. MGH
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 26, 2017, 09:28:28 AM
Forgot to check and see if The Pendry Hotel or other hotels that were not on the initial list appeared.  Anyone notice any?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: vegasndn on April 26, 2017, 09:28:33 AM
My pc got in under 30 seconds, iPad around 1 minute mark and mac book 8 minutes. Now we wait to hear the good news.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 09:28:51 AM
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Too panicked to check the time when I first got access. By the time I remembered to look at the clock, it was 9:01. Anyone know if we'll get a recap email this year to confirm what we selected?

Same here, exactly. I submitted by 9:02 but have no idea where in the first 90 seconds or so I actually accessed the form. And I'm still shaking a little.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LuthienDragon on April 26, 2017, 09:29:25 AM
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Forgot to check and see if The Pendry Hotel or other hotels that were not on the initial list appeared.  Anyone notice any?

I heard The Pendry chose not to participate in the Comic-Con sale and allowed reservations in their own page a time back. :/
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 09:29:34 AM
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what was everyones choices?

in order mine were

Omni
Hilton Gaslamp
Manchester Grand Hyatt
Marriott Marquis & Marina
Marriott Gaslamp
Westin Gaslamp

I didn't put any non-downtown hotels.
Oh, just realized I oopsied this too. I out Residence Inn and another one I can't remember twice and never changed it. I had less than 4 days and min 4 days. I actually get worse at hotel hell every year. :) oh well. It will be what it will be...

First, Bayfront
Second and third Residence Inn Gaslamp
4th and 5th legit one I can't remember
6th Omni

Non downtowm, I have no idea, my form wouldn't submit and I thought it was bc I didn't choose non dt hotels so I went and grabbed all the ones I have high rewards for right now. 

It might as well have been a random room assignment for me. Ha. Maybe I'll find a new fave hotel this year. :)

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: JKingoftheNerds on April 26, 2017, 09:29:40 AM
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Forgot to check and see if The Pendry Hotel or other hotels that were not on the initial list appeared.  Anyone notice any?

I looked for the Pendry. Couldn't find it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chirigami on April 26, 2017, 09:30:11 AM
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Did anyone notice that CCI stated that after May 15th those who weren't assigned their Top 6 or Top 12 can just book whatever is available.

Sooooooooo is that essentially the waiting list?

Makes sense considering it's up to two weeks after the first round of requests.
I think they did that last year, there were a few things left over that people could choose from but after the first round of like refund dates there were more and more popping up; mostly Mission Valley, Coronado and a few from the airport.  But there was an actual waitlist day where you could go in and book what they had, which were a good selection of downtown hotels.  Worked a little like today but you were given access to the hotels themselves.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 09:31:47 AM
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Forgot to check and see if The Pendry Hotel or other hotels that were not on the initial list appeared.  Anyone notice any?
I looked for Pendry and didn't see it but may have missed it.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 26, 2017, 09:33:47 AM
The did their own private reservations and have huge waiting list
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tygers on April 26, 2017, 09:35:28 AM
I might be reading too much into this, but does this seem like maybe we'll be able to book leftover rooms on May 15th?

From the submission screen (bold mine):

Next Steps

If we are able to accommodate your request, you will receive a confirmation email on either May 1 or May 8. This email will contain instructions on how to provide your deposit, as well as other important deadline information. Your hotel reservation will be confirmed once the full deposit is received. If your request cannot be accommodated, you will be notified no later than May 15, 2017. At that time you will be able to book any available rooms. Please note, a deposit will be required at the time of booking.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 09:38:34 AM
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The did their own private reservations and have huge waiting list

What do you mean by "private reservations"?  Block booking by companies?

(about my experience)

I know I didn't get in during the first minute, because I had my timer alert me when that was up.  But, I'm not sure when I got in.  It was Internet Explorer and it's History tab is weird.  I think I submitted, after taking my time, at 12:06 ET.

Not feeling the confidence I had last year when I got in during the first minute.  We'll see.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 26, 2017, 09:39:40 AM
They either reserved rooms for sdcc comic con special guests or something like that
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 26, 2017, 09:39:52 AM
Oh yeah, picks-- didn't go with any non-DT.

1: MMM
2: MGH
3: Omni
4: Hilton Gaslamp
5: Hilton Bayfront
6: Hard Rock
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ToryRoxx on April 26, 2017, 09:42:29 AM
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Nope.
It happened to me too
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ThePuffyTaco on April 26, 2017, 09:45:23 AM
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Did anyone submit and then get sent back into the waiting room? And then get in again?

Seems like there is a bunch of people who had this issue. Called OnPeak and they said everything is fine and no confirmation page is okay. But... is... one... to... trust... them...?

UPDATE: Friend called OnPeak and stated that not to resubmit - if there was an error it would have highlighted the error.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 26, 2017, 09:46:05 AM
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I looked for Pendry and didn't see it but may have missed it.

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Thank you...I wanted to check for that one at least!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jumping Jehosaphat on April 26, 2017, 09:48:08 AM
Jesus, I'm unlucky at things like this.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: RighteousRita on April 26, 2017, 09:49:46 AM
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I looked for Pendry and didn't see it but may have missed it.

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It's not there.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Fazermint on April 26, 2017, 09:58:46 AM
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If your request cannot be accommodated, you will be notified no later than May 15, 2017. At that time you will be able to book any available rooms.

So why give us the option of getting on the waitlist if they're not going to have a waitlist?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 10:00:19 AM
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So why give us the option of getting on the waitlist if they're not going to have a waitlist?

Well, the deposits for the May 8 people are due May 11. So maybe the waitlisters have May 12-14 to book.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 10:00:28 AM
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So why give us the option of getting on the waitlist if they're not going to have a waitlist?
I think there will be people so far down the wait list that this will be relevant to them.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 26, 2017, 10:01:02 AM
I don't want to get excited but I think I got into the room at 9:01 and might have a tiny bit of luck this year.  Please.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 26, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
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So why give us the option of getting on the waitlist if they're not going to have a waitlist?

Maybe wait list is between the 12th and the 15th? (After last day to submit payments, and last day to be notified for reservations overall)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 26, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
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So why give us the option of getting on the waitlist if they're not going to have a waitlist?

Just clicking that I want to be on the wait list at all scares me.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Miterin on April 26, 2017, 10:02:53 AM
So how am I supposed to not lose my mind while waiting for results!!! :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 10:03:30 AM
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So how am I supposed to not lose my mind while waiting for results!!! :P
I'm thinking drug induced coma until Monday.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 26, 2017, 10:03:39 AM
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Just clicking that I want to be on the wait list at all scares me.

Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: madfly on April 26, 2017, 10:11:53 AM
Has anyone seen the poll on twitter? According to it, 49% got to the form between 9:00 and 9:02.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NeedaRoomPlease on April 26, 2017, 10:12:51 AM
I recorded my entire experience with my laptop as well as the telephone. Before the sale, 2 of the Onpeak operators Latisha or Shasheehsa, and a different woman, had no idea what they were doing when I called before the sale to ask about clarification on the link and form. One hung up on me rather than do her job, and the other one kept asking "supervisors" and gave me incorrect information saying the link to the hotel waiting room was on CC's page before the sale. It wasn't. Just the practice stuff. I told her that and she said she had no idea.

As for the sale, I did my laptop and the phone call. Got in with phone at 12:00 and 30 seconds and someone picked up at 12:02 (recorded my laptop screen which picked up my phone call audio too). my laptop got in at 12:05. The OnPeak guy was nice but really slow. he said not to worry that my timestamp would be when he accessed the form (what ever that means). All I know is my laptop screen said 12:02 when he picked up and started talking. That should be the timestamp, not how fast HE types.....

The whole thing screams of scam in regards to timestamp and fairness. It seems like they just do whatever they want then lie later. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 10:13:19 AM
My friend got in pretty much immediately and submitted ...and then submitted a second form when that one came up in the queue.  She said she was so nervous she forgot to close it yadda yadda blah blah blah.  I told her she was likely going to get both forms pulled for duplicate submissions.  She got very upset and called OnPeak, and the guy told her that wouldn't happen and that they would use one of her submissions (I assume the later one if he's even at all correct).  Considering my experience with OnPeak last year calling about a different issue and getting four different answers from four different operators, I fully assume her submissions will indeed be pulled out.  :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: HoobieDaju on April 26, 2017, 10:13:31 AM
There was no reason to race to get the form done.  The order will be based on when you got into the room.  When you submitted it will have no bearing on what you get.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: straightline3 on April 26, 2017, 10:16:56 AM
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Did anyone notice that CCI stated that after May 15th those who weren't assigned their Top 6 or Top 12 can just book whatever is available.

Sooooooooo is that essentially the waiting list?

Makes sense considering it's up to two weeks after the first round of requests.

Also the deadline for hotel refund requests is 5-15, so after that date, it would make sense to expect a flurry of activity and movement with the waitlist.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Fazermint on April 26, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
They were letting in a lot of people at the same time. So they may go by how fast those 9:01 people submitted, for example.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 26, 2017, 10:20:15 AM
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Has anyone seen the poll on twitter? According to it, 49% got to the form between 9:00 and 9:02.

I saw it.  If true I'm screwed.  Multiple sessions and fastest one was 9:04:58.  I guess my luck was bound to run out after the streak of success I've had.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 10:20:37 AM
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Has anyone seen the poll on twitter? According to it, 49% got to the form between 9:00 and 9:02.

Just checked, it's at 48% now. But I think there's probably a fairly large response-bias, given the much greater spread I'm seeing here and on FB. Plus 9:00-9:02 is waaaaay too big a range to be useful.

In other words, DON'T PANIC.   ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: HoobieDaju on April 26, 2017, 10:21:03 AM
I doubt that.  They may have let people in "simultaneously" but the computer will probably have them marked at fractions of a second to differentiate.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
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Just checked, it's at 48% now. But I think there's probably a fairly large response-bias, given the much greater spread I'm seeing here and on FB. Plus 9:00-9:02 is waaaaay too big a range to be useful.

In other words, DON'T PANIC.   ;)

Can I panic?!  I got in at 9:03:07......I knew I needed to be within the first two minutes to really be happy and set.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 10:24:01 AM
[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] You may worry. Gently.

But seriously, no one panic. If you didn't get something you can work with, that's what the hotel exchange is for. So that we can all help each other out. That's why we're all here.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 10:24:55 AM
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[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] You may worry. Gently.

But seriously, no one panic. If you didn't get something you can work with, that's what the hotel exchange is for. So that we can all help each other out. That's why we're all here.

Well I totally posted on it yesterday when it went live. ;) I'm just glad I'm not really into the Top 5 hotels.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Michael M on April 26, 2017, 10:25:44 AM
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[member=4284]Jonathan[/member] You may worry. Gently.

But seriously, no one panic. If you didn't get something you can work with, that's what the hotel exchange is for. So that we can all help each other out. That's why we're all here.

Hereby nominating [member=1291]semigeekgirl[/member] as FoCC Motivational Speaker :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: ascaryman on April 26, 2017, 10:29:06 AM
Was timing it on official NIST time and my friends and I got in at 11:00:30 and 11:00:40. Green bar zipped right away. Hoping to get #1 choice.

Be on the lookout on the hotel exchange doc, as any extras will go there.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 26, 2017, 10:35:31 AM
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Did anyone notice that CCI stated that after May 15th those who weren't assigned their Top 6 or Top 12 can just book whatever is available.

Sooooooooo is that essentially the waiting list?

Makes sense considering it's up to two weeks after the first round of requests.

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I might be reading too much into this, but does this seem like maybe we'll be able to book leftover rooms on May 15th?

From the submission screen (bold mine):

Next Steps

If we are able to accommodate your request, you will receive a confirmation email on either May 1 or May 8. This email will contain instructions on how to provide your deposit, as well as other important deadline information. Your hotel reservation will be confirmed once the full deposit is received. If your request cannot be accommodated, you will be notified no later than May 15, 2017. At that time you will be able to book any available rooms. Please note, a deposit will be required at the time of booking.

From the Pop up.

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From the Thanks page (for archive):

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Form Successfully Submitted

Your Comic-Con 2017 hotel reservation request has been received and will be processed shortly. As a reminder, requests are processed based on the order in which you were granted access to the form.

Next Steps

If we are able to accommodate your request, you will receive a confirmation email on either May 1 or May 8. This email will contain instructions on how to provide your deposit, as well as other important deadline information. Your hotel reservation will be confirmed once the full deposit is received. If your request cannot be accommodated, you will be notified no later than May 15, 2017. At that time you will be able to book any available rooms. Please note, a deposit will be required at the time of booking.

Deposit Policy

   
  • A deposit equal to two (2) nights' room rate plus tax must be provided in order to confirm your reservation.
  • For reservations confirmed on May 1 the required deposit must be provided by Friday, May 5 at 12:00AM PT.
  • For reservations confirmed on May 8 the required deposit must be provided by Friday, May 12 at 12:00AM PT.
  • Reservations without deposit will be cancelled and will not be re-instated for any reason.
  • Deposits are fully refundable if your reservation is cancelled on or before May 15, 2017.

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  • Reservations cancelled between the dates of May 16, 2017 through June 6, 2017 will incur a one (1) nights' room rate plus tax cancellation fee deducted from the deposit provided.
  • Reservations cancelled on or after June 7, 2017 will result in a fully non-refundable deposit.

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  • ADA requests are based on availability and have no bearing on your assigned hotel's proximity to the San Diego Convention Center.

Thank you for being a part of this year’s hotel reservation request process. We hope to see you see you in San Diego this summer.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 26, 2017, 10:36:41 AM
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Hotel rooms for 2017 are fully committed at this time. As Comic-Con gets closer, hotel rooms do free up. We urge everyone who plans on making a hotel reservation for the event to keep checking the hotel page at www.comic-con.org/cci/hotels for updated room availability. If you haven't been able to secure a room yet, check back later to see if rooms have become available.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 26, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
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It's not there.
Thank you!

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: epicaz on April 26, 2017, 10:50:54 AM
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Just checked, it's at 48% now. But I think there's probably a fairly large response-bias, given the much greater spread I'm seeing here and on FB. Plus 9:00-9:02 is waaaaay too big a range to be useful.

In other words, DON'T PANIC.   ;)

Plus the poll is flawed. It asks for intervals that skip a minute in between. For example, you get in at 9:02:40, but the poll only has voting options for 9:00-9:02 and 9:03-9:05.. so you're likely to vote for the prior rather than say you had a later minute mark than you had
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jumping Jehosaphat on April 26, 2017, 11:11:13 AM
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Plus the poll is flawed. It asks for intervals that skip a minute in between. For example, you get in at 9:02:40, but the poll only has voting options for 9:00-9:02 and 9:03-9:05.. so you're likely to vote for the prior rather than say you had a later minute mark than you had

Holy s**t. How did I get so unlucky?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 11:16:43 AM
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I saw it.  If true I'm screwed.  Multiple sessions and fastest one was 9:04:58.  I guess my luck was bound to run out after the streak of success I've had.
Agreed, I've had a good run so far so if it's my year to ride the trolley, well, it's my year to ride the trolley.  That poll does worry my soul a little bit... I was in at 4ish and didn't submit until much later.

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Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 11:28:33 AM
I got in twice. My first was at about 9:00:50. While I was filling out the first form, my second hit at 9:02. Perhaps I took too long because when I got to the end of the second form, it bounced me back to the beginning with a later time stamp.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 26, 2017, 11:33:06 AM
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I got in twice. My first was at about 9:00:50. While I was filling out the first form, my second hit at 9:02. Perhaps I took too long because when I got to the end of the second form, it bounced me back to the beginning with a later time stamp.


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the 2nd form taking you back alot of people had this happen to them, it happened to me too. supposedly onpeak said your form still got submitted, but who knows. i guess we will have to wait and see.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 11:35:25 AM
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the 2nd form taking you back alot of people had this happen to them, it happened to me too. supposedly onpeak said your form still got submitted, but who knows. i guess we will have to wait and see.
I got a confirmation page after the second time I filled out the form.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 11:36:08 AM
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I got in twice. My first was at about 9:00:50. While I was filling out the first form, my second hit at 9:02. Perhaps I took too long because when I got to the end of the second form, it bounced me back to the beginning with a later time stamp.


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I've heard of a few people hitting the "bounce" issue.

Another gentle nudge to go and add your data to the thread http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0) I guarantee we will get better estimates than the twitter poll. :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 11:42:40 AM
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I've heard of a few people hitting the "bounce" issue.

Another gentle nudge to go and add your data to the thread http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0 (http://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?topic=7937.0) I guarantee we will get better estimates than the twitter poll. :)
Mark, thanks for the gentle nudge. On a last minute whim, I used my iPhone, and, wouldn't you know it, I got to the form within the first 60 seconds. Unfortunately, I'm not tech savvy enough to mine that data of when I accessed the form on my iPhone 6 (on Safari).


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 11:46:25 AM
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Mark, thanks for the gentle nudge. On a last minute whim, I used my iPhone, and, wouldn't you know it, I got to the form within the first 60 seconds. Unfortunately, I'm not tech savvy enough to mine that data of when I accessed the form on my iPhone 6 (on Safari).


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Totally fine, rough estimates are welcome. There is also the options that you chose, how many hotels you entered in each list, and (once we see how we did) we'll be able to see how many people chose what option, if that depended on when they got to the form, and how the options contributed (or not) to results. There's a template at the top of the thread.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: citizenmilton on April 26, 2017, 11:48:34 AM
It seems to me the whole key to this 2-batch notifications is that they truly do cancel the rooms that don't get a deposit within 72 hours.

This will represent a major change in their operating procedures. I've been to SDCC several times, and I usually go with one other person, and each time we both participate in #Hotelpocalypse, so what ends up happening is one of us gets a better room than the other, and thus we end up ignoring one of the reservations. Sometimes, we've gone through the formal cancellation process, but sometimes we've forgotten. And each time we've forgotten, we keep getting emails WAY PAST the cancellation deadline indicating that they're still basically holding the (unwanted) room for us.

Yeah, I guess it was kind-of a jerk move of us not to actively cancel each time. But they said they'd cancel it for us if we didn't do the deposit, so we just figured it was okay? From now on, however, for good karma points, we'll be sure to actively cancel the unwanted one so it doesn't accidentally hold a room that other people should be able to get.

Anyway, my guess is that for this new process to show any improvement in results, they really DO need to cancel all the reservations that don't get deposits in the first wave, and open those up in the second wave.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Michael M on April 26, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
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It seems to me the whole key to this 2-batch notifications is that they truly do cancel the rooms that don't get a deposit within 72 hours.

This will represent a major change in their operating procedures. I've been to SDCC several times, and I usually go with one other person, and each time we both participate in #Hotelpocalypse, so what ends up happening is one of us gets a better room than the other, and thus we end up ignoring one of the reservations. Sometimes, we've gone through the formal cancellation process, but sometimes we've forgotten. And each time we've forgotten, we keep getting emails WAY PAST the cancellation deadline indicating that they're still basically holding the (unwanted) room for us.

Yeah, I guess it was kind-of a jerk move of us not to actively cancel each time. But they said they'd cancel it for us if we didn't do the deposit, so we just figured it was okay? From now on, however, for good karma points, we'll be sure to actively cancel the unwanted one so it doesn't accidentally hold a room that other people should be able to get.

Anyway, my guess is that for this new process to show any improvement in results, they really DO need to cancel all the reservations that don't get deposits in the first wave, and open those up in the second wave.

This would be pretty cool if they did this.  Trying to accommodate based on available after the first round of cancellations.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 11:52:11 AM
I'm really beginning to wonder how sending confirmations in batches is going to work.

Initially, I thought that they would do it that way to see how many rooms weren't taken among the "first batch(May 1)" people and giving them to 2nd batch people.  Maybe that's the case.  But, how would it work in the following scenario?

Let's say I'm in the May 1 confirmations, but I didn't get one of my six.  I have to either accept it or let it go.  I won't know if people who have rooms in one of my top six are letting them go back to OnPeak.  But, they may be.

I only get put on the waitlist if I accept the room that wasn't one of my choices.  So, I have to take it to be on the waitlist.  If I don't take it, I am on no list.

Meanwhile, if people from the May 1st group are letting go of desirable downtown rooms*, they theoretically can be allocated to the May 8th group.  This means there is a small chance of people in the LATER group getting desirable hotels.  But, if you are in the May 1st group, you have to take whatever they gave you or get nothing.

My head hurts.

Who will the first May 1st batch consist of?  People who got their top six?  The first half of the people who submitted?  Downtown hotels only?  It's anyone's guess.


*Maybe because they worked in groups and got double booked.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 11:55:40 AM
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I'm really beginning to wonder how sending confirmations in batches is going to work.

Initially, I thought that they would do it that way to see how many rooms weren't taken among the "first batch(May 1)" people and giving them to 2nd batch people.  Maybe that's the case.  But, how would it work in the following scenario?

Let's say I'm in the May 1 confirmations, but I didn't get one of my six.  I have to either accept it or let it go.  I won't know if people who have rooms in one of my top six are letting them go back to OnPeak.  But, they may be.

I only get put on the waitlist if I accept the room that wasn't one of my choices.  So, I have to take it to be on the waitlist.  If I don't take it, I am on no list.

Meanwhile, if people from the May 1st group are letting go of desirable downtown rooms*, they theoretically can be allocated to the May 8th group.  This means there is a small chance of people in the LATER group getting desirable hotels.  But, if you are in the May 1st group, you have to take whatever they gave you or get nothing.

My head hurts.

Who will the first May 1st batch consist of?  People who got their top six?  The first half of the people who submitted?  Downtown hotels only?  It's anyone's guess.


*Maybe because they worked in groups and got double booked.

[member=3221]dkd[/member] I don't know their system, but in my opinion you're looking at things wrong. You mentioned being in the May 1 batch and not getting your Top 6. My gut says if you aren't getting your Top 6, you won't be in May 1. At least I hope that's how it works.

I want it to work like this. Everyone who gets a notification for the first batch got one of their Top 6. And no waitlisted people or anything to that affect. Then Batch 2 is everyone else getting their hotels and then the waitlisters.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Moveless on April 26, 2017, 12:00:12 PM
This morning was a real bummer. Didn't get my hotel form to open up till about 9:06, which makes it look like I will not have a shot at any of the downtown rooms. My girlfriend got in the waiting room at 9:10. The wait is going to be killer.

So people were running multiple browsers and that worked? Why would they set up a system like that, it seems really unfair. If I had known I would have had 10 browsers going at once. I really hope that isn't the case next year.

I'm going to hang around here and if I did strike out maybe I can find luck with the hotel exchange on here, though last year I also struck out and got put at Kona Kai way far away from the con. Some people get so lucky with this.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 12:00:21 PM
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I want it to work like this. Everyone who gets a notification for the first batch got one of their Top 6. And no waitlisted people or anything to that affect. Then Batch 2 is everyone else getting their hotels and then the waitlisters.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Bt then, I've never known OnPeak/Travel Planners to make sense in the past, so I'm still not certain this is what they're doing.

But yeah, that would be the logical way to handle it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 12:00:24 PM
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I'm really beginning to wonder how sending confirmations in batches is going to work.

Initially, I thought that they would do it that way to see how many rooms weren't taken among the "first batch(May 1)" people and giving them to 2nd batch people.  Maybe that's the case.  But, how would it work in the following scenario?

Let's say I'm in the May 1 confirmations, but I didn't get one of my six.  I have to either accept it or let it go.  I won't know if people who have rooms in one of my top six are letting them go back to OnPeak.  But, they may be.

I only get put on the waitlist if I accept the room that wasn't one of my choices.  So, I have to take it to be on the waitlist.  If I don't take it, I am on no list.

Meanwhile, if people from the May 1st group are letting go of desirable downtown rooms*, they theoretically can be allocated to the May 8th group.  This means there is a small chance of people in the LATER group getting desirable hotels.  But, if you are in the May 1st group, you have to take whatever they gave you or get nothing.

My head hurts.

Who will the first May 1st batch consist of?  People who got their top six?  The first half of the people who submitted?  Downtown hotels only?  It's anyone's guess.


*Maybe because they worked in groups and got double booked.
This is interesting.  So, that means people later on... like after 5 mins, may have some equality or at least tiny balance after all the initial disappointment.  That's pretty cool for those folks.  I'm right in the middle, ha, so I don't think I'll benefit from luck of the first draft or consolation of round 2 drop outs.  Still, I sort of like this way.  Everyone deserves to stay close to the con a few times if that's a desire.  It's a lot of fun to be in the action and I'll miss it, for sure, but if rather some excited newbie take my place than a bot gotten room.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
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[member=3221]dkd[/member] I don't know their system, but in my opinion you're looking at things wrong. You mentioned being in the May 1 batch and not getting your Top 6. My gut says if you aren't getting your Top 6, you won't be in May 1. At least I hope that's how it works.

I want it to work like this. Everyone who gets a notification for the first batch got one of their Top 6. And no waitlisted people or anything to that affect. Then Batch 2 is everyone else getting their hotels and then the waitlisters.

Yes, that is the only that seems fair because the scenario I described wouldn't be fair.  If you are right, the people receiving notice on May 1st will do so because they got what they requested.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 26, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
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So people were running multiple browsers and that worked? Why would they set up a system like that, it seems really unfair. If I had known I would have had 10 browsers going at once. I really hope that isn't the case next year.

It's not exactly a secret, but yes, it's based on the Queue ID you get when you join the waiting room. Different browsers allow you to have different Queue IDs. It's really just like putting in more than one ticket for a raffle drawing. It's all still random and you can have 10 browsers up and running and still get back luck of the draw just as easily as someone on a single browser gets fantastic luck.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 12:04:07 PM
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[member=3221]dkd[/member] I don't know their system, but in my opinion you're looking at things wrong. You mentioned being in the May 1 batch and not getting your Top 6. My gut says if you aren't getting your Top 6, you won't be in May 1. At least I hope that's how it works.

I want it to work like this. Everyone who gets a notification for the first batch got one of their Top 6. And no waitlisted people or anything to that affect. Then Batch 2 is everyone else getting their hotels and then the waitlisters.
If they do this, though, they aren't assigning by time which is what I thought they were doing this year.  Unless they're intentionally holding early first responders until second batch to try and free up rooms in their top 6 which seems risky and I think would just make people unhappy.  People who know they finished in first two mins not getting notified before people much later submissions drove the board bonkers last year.  It's a wild ride, either way, who knows...

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 12:10:35 PM
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If they do this, though, they aren't assigning by time which is what I thought they were doing this year.  Unless they're intentionally holding early first responders until second batch to try and free up rooms in their top 6 which seems risky and I think would just make people unhappy.  People who know they finished in first two mins not getting notified before people much later submissions drove the board bonkers last year.  It's a wild ride, either way, who knows...

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Maybe I'm reading your post incorrectly. How would my idea change how it's based on time? You'll get your hotel choice based on the timestamp given. But they never mentioned which batch you'd be placed in.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 12:10:58 PM
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If they do this, though, they aren't assigning by time which is what I thought they were doing this year.  Unless they're intentionally holding early first responders until second batch to try and free up rooms in their top 6 which seems risky and I think would just make people unhappy.  People who know they finished in first two mins not getting notified before people much later submissions drove the board bonkers last year.  It's a wild ride, either way, who knows...

I would not mind waiting longer if it meant that I got one of my top 6. I suspect most people would rather be notified later if it meant they were more likely to get what they wanted.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 12:15:01 PM
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[member=3221]dkd[/member] I don't know their system, but in my opinion you're looking at things wrong. You mentioned being in the May 1 batch and not getting your Top 6. My gut says if you aren't getting your Top 6, you won't be in May 1. At least I hope that's how it works.

I want it to work like this. Everyone who gets a notification for the first batch got one of their Top 6. And no waitlisted people or anything to that affect. Then Batch 2 is everyone else getting their hotels and then the waitlisters.

You're right, this would absolutely be the fairest. I hope they do it this way, but I'm not sure I have faith that OnPeak is smart enough to think of it.

It would also allow them to get a LOT of the non-downtown inventory allocated quickly and fairly in the first round, which should make the waitlist fairer and more accurate.

[member=2841]SoCalNerdGal[/member] No, this way would still be in order of form entry. Say you're the 980th form in, and all 979 people before you got one of their top six. But none of your top 6 are left. So you become number 1 on the May 8th list, when they'll see if any of your top six became available. Sure, some people in the 981-1000 group will get May 1st rooms, but they weren't competing with you because they didn't want your top 6 (and they won't get your top 6, even if one of your choices did overlap). So everyone who doesn't get their top 6 in round 1 STAYS IN ORDER, but just gets moved to the round 2 list. It's still fair.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 12:15:58 PM
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Maybe I'm reading your post incorrectly. How would my idea change how it's based on time? You'll get your hotel choice based on the timestamp given. But they never mentioned which batch you'd be placed in.
I think I see it better now.  I think I was caught up on the idea that people with later times get their rooms first but you're saying those people wouldn't be getting rooms on batch 2s list anyway so timestamp still applies.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 12:16:49 PM
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I would not mind waiting longer if it meant that I got one of my top 6. I suspect most people would rather be notified later if it meant they were more likely to get what they wanted.
I agree.  I think I'm lucky to have the board to remind me of all of these possibilities.  The unknown in all of this adds to the anxiety.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 12:20:35 PM
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The unknown in all of this adds to the anxiety.

That's true! I have gone from thinking my submission time was awesome, to thinking it was horrible, to thinking maybe it will be okay, all in the space of an hour. And the truth is, I really don't know.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 12:21:31 PM
Since it looks like my idea works, anyone care to tell OnPeak to replace their people with me? ;) Yes, I figure some humor would help today. We're all stressed. I'm personally still thinking about my 9:03 time. I can't get the 9:02 from last year out of my mind. I guess the only thing that I'm happy with, is my hotel list only has one of the Top 5 hotels on it, and even then, I'm not enamored with it to begin with.

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That's true! I have gone from thinking my submission time was awesome, to thinking it was horrible, to thinking maybe it will be okay, all in the space of an hour. And the truth is, I really don't know.

Until proven otherwise, I HATE my 9:03:07 time. I hope I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 12:24:56 PM
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If they do this, though, they aren't assigning by time which is what I thought they were doing this year.  Unless they're intentionally holding early first responders until second batch to try and free up rooms in their top 6 which seems risky and I think would just make people unhappy.  People who know they finished in first two mins not getting notified before people much later submissions drove the board bonkers last year.  It's a wild ride, either way, who knows...

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...and this is why my head hurts thinking about it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 12:25:47 PM
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Until proven otherwise, I HATE my 9:03:07 time. I hope I'm wrong though.

Which is why I REALLY wish they'd just have live booking with an immediate, non-refundable deposit required. It would eliminate the room-hoarding and multiple entries and you could at least KNOW what you got, and make YOUR OWN CHOICE of hotel if the ones you want are gone.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 12:30:49 PM
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Which is why I REALLY wish they'd just have live booking with an immediate, non-refundable deposit required. It would eliminate the room-hoarding and multiple entries and you could at least KNOW what you got, and make YOUR OWN CHOICE of hotel if the ones you want are gone.

If they did the immediate non-refundable deposit, I'd be all for it. I can't imagine losing out on my Top 6 if that were the case. Meaning, it'll never happen.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 12:32:52 PM
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If they did the immediate non-refundable deposit, I'd be all for it. I can't imagine losing out on my Top 6 if that were the case. Meaning, it'll never happen.

I don't see why it can't, except that CCI/OnPeak are stubborn in resisting it. Use the waiting room to throttle attendee access, so that they don't overwhelm the system all at once, and then let people slowly in for the live booking. No returns/cancelations, no room hoarding, no multiple reservations.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 12:33:39 PM
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You're right, this would absolutely be the fairest. I hope they do it this way, but I'm not sure I have faith that OnPeak is smart enough to think of it.

It would also allow them to get a LOT of the non-downtown inventory allocated quickly and fairly in the first round, which should make the waitlist fairer and more accurate.

[member=2841]SoCalNerdGal[/member] No, this way would still be in order of form entry. Say you're the 980th form in, and all 979 people before you got one of their top six. But none of your top 6 are left. So you become number 1 on the May 8th list, when they'll see if any of your top six became available. Sure, some people in the 981-1000 group will get May 1st rooms, but they weren't competing with you because they didn't want your top 6 (and they won't get your top 6, even if one of your choices did overlap). So everyone who doesn't get their top 6 in round 1 STAYS IN ORDER, but just gets moved to the round 2 list. It's still fair.

A problem with this is the check mark of "put me in a hotel closest to the convention center".  If you are the 980th form in and your top 6 aren't available, shouldn't they look for the closest hotel and give you a room there before giving that room to #981 because that person happens to have picked a different hotel than you did?

(I know in my case, I put in six because I had to, but would be fine with any other downtown hotel)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 26, 2017, 12:39:51 PM
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A problem with this is the check mark of "put me in a hotel closest to the convention center".  If you are the 980th form in and your top 6 aren't available, shouldn't they look for the closest hotel and give you a room there before giving that room to #981 because that person happens to have picked a different hotel than you did?

Hmm. You're right, that option does throw a monkey wrench in Jonathan's method. Which makes it seem unlikely that OnPeak will use that method.

I still think it might be better/fairer his way, though. OnPeak is basically terrible at assigning hotel rooms outside your top 6... I think I'd rather be forced to gamble on my top 6 (i.e. top 6 or waitlist, no other options) than trust OnPeak to book me competently, even given the "distance" criteria. And I even checked that box, lol.

I guess I'm more like [member=314]Transmute Jun[/member] . I just want to control my own hotel destiny!!!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 12:42:07 PM
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A problem with this is the check mark of "put me in a hotel closest to the convention center".  If you are the 980th form in and your top 6 aren't available, shouldn't they look for the closest hotel and give you a room there before giving that room to #981 because that person happens to have picked a different hotel than you did?
Yeah, see, I checked that box. So, when do they make the call to give you that room?  Beginning of the process, you'd probably get a closer room than if they hold you until the second batch and then, offer the closest room then...

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 26, 2017, 12:43:09 PM
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A problem with this is the check mark of "put me in a hotel closest to the convention center".  If you are the 980th form in and your top 6 aren't available, shouldn't they look for the closest hotel and give you a room there before giving that room to #981 because that person happens to have picked a different hotel than you did?

(I know in my case, I put in six because I had to, but would be fine with any other downtown hotel)

I'd say it'd depend on A) how many people actually clicked that option, and B) In my mind, after the Top 6 of yours is gone, then things get crazy. This sounds wrong, but I bet what you said there is accurate. They'll give the room to #981 before you, because it was in their Top 6 while for you, it's waitlisted. I see them favoring Top 6 first, before waitlist options
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 26, 2017, 12:43:41 PM
Did anyone on here just submit one hotel?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on April 26, 2017, 12:45:40 PM
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Did anyone on here just submit one hotel?
Insanity wolf, right there... I'm curious too. I wish I would have done it once I got in so late.  Just to see what would happen . ..

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 12:49:35 PM
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I'd say it'd depend on A) how many people actually clicked that option, and B) In my mind, after the Top 6 of yours is gone, then things get crazy. This sounds wrong, but I bet what you said there is accurate. They'll give the room to #981 before you, because it was in their Top 6 while for you, it's waitlisted. I see them favoring Top 6 first, before waitlist options

That's not how I envisioned it at all.  This is how I envisioned it:

If my request comes up, the booker looks to see if my top six are available.  If they aren't, they look at what option I selected.  If I said, "closest to convention center", they look to see what is available that's closest and give it to me.

Then they go on to the next form and do the same thing.  They don't wait until they get through all the forms to see what's left for me.  Because nothing will be left downtown.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 26, 2017, 12:52:01 PM
Yeah. I truly don't see how the processing order gets ignored if your top six aren't available anymore and you've selected a placement option that they can fill at that moment. If your top 6 isn't avail, but you've selected closest to convention center regardless of price, and there's even one room available to put you in somewhere, they do it, then move onto the next submission.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 26, 2017, 12:55:19 PM
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Yeah. I truly don't see how the processing order gets ignored if your top six aren't available anymore and you've selected a placement option that they can fill at that moment. If your top 6 isn't avail, but you've selected closest to convention center regardless of price, and there's even one room available to put you in somewhere, they do it, then move onto the next submission.

Agree with this. I feel like they'll probably send out notification for all downtown hotels on May 1, since they know those are the preferred ones, and then do everything else a week later? Including distributing a few hotels that got returned after the May 1 deadline.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
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Agree with this. I feel like they'll probably send out notification for all downtown hotels on May 1, since they know those are the preferred ones, and then do everything else a week later? Including distributing a few hotels that got returned after the May 1 deadline.

It could also be possible that anyone requesting non-downtown as their top 6 could be included in the May 1st notice.

...and this returns us to the possibility that you could be in the May 1st mailing, be forced to commit to a hotel that wasn't in your top six, but one of your top six gets returned and goes to a May 8th person.

It's probably not going to happen a lot, but I do recall some good hotels were on the waitlist options last year.

Monday will be very interesting.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: kiddo235 on April 26, 2017, 01:12:43 PM
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Did anyone on here just submit one hotel?

A friend of mine did.  We will see what happens with that.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Tjod65 on April 26, 2017, 01:40:48 PM
Was there really any reason not to choose 6 non-downtown hotels other than the speculation of one of your 6 downtown hotels being cancelled after May 1st and then you getting it in the next release of emails?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 26, 2017, 01:43:19 PM
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Was there really any reason not to choose 6 non-downtown hotels other than the speculation of one of your 6 downtown hotels being cancelled after May 1st and then you getting it in the next release of emails?

My rationale was that if I only picked downtown hotels and missed out on my top six, picking the option of being put in any hotel closest to the con regardless of price would mean I'd potentially be assigned into a non-downtown room, BUT it would also guarantee that selecting the waitlist option would only have me waitlisted for downtown.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 01:47:12 PM
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Was there really any reason not to choose 6 non-downtown hotels other than the speculation of one of your 6 downtown hotels being cancelled after May 1st and then you getting it in the next release of emails?

Obviously most people want downtown. But the majority of those, if downtown is unavailable, would want a non-downtown room. By selecting your choice of non-downtown rooms, you are communicating your choices in case there are no downtown rooms when they get to you, rather than being assigned something random.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 26, 2017, 01:51:24 PM
I would love for OnPeak to give us a personal CONFIRMATION PAGE, instead of the generic one.  At least we would have something specific that said we successfully submitted our form.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chaosdreamer on April 26, 2017, 01:57:26 PM
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A friend of mine did.  We will see what happens with that.

Thank your friend for getting us that data point!  ;)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Satam on April 26, 2017, 02:09:36 PM
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Was there really any reason not to choose 6 non-downtown hotels other than the speculation of one of your 6 downtown hotels being cancelled after May 1st and then you getting it in the next release of emails?

I already booked a downtown hotel at an inflated (but still not altogether unreasonable) rate.  Getting a non-downtown hotel through the lottery would be a downgrade in pretty much every respect except cost, which isn't my only consideration.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: rickythump on April 26, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
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I would love for OnPeak to give us a personal CONFIRMATION PAGE, instead of the generic one.  At least we would have something specific that said we successfully submitted our form.

An e-mail confirmation would be great as well. I'm (and many other people, I'm sure) going back over the form process in my head and stressing out on whether or not I put the correct e-mail address, duration of stay, etc etc etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: citizenmilton on April 26, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
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Was there really any reason not to choose 6 non-downtown hotels other than the speculation of one of your 6 downtown hotels being cancelled after May 1st and then you getting it in the next release of emails?

We don't know the algorithm OnPeak uses, so this is indeed all speculation. But we do know that OnPeak cites statistics to Comic-Con International that specify the % of attendees who "got placed in a room of their choice."

Suppose attendees A, B, and C participate in the #Hotelpocalypse. Let's say attendee C chose only downtown hotels, but attendee A and B chose 6 from each category. Attendee C was third in the queue in the process but they all have relatively similar timestamps. They could tailor the algorithm to maximize "choice selection matching" as the primary criteria for sorting. So, even though attendee C was the last in line, they would get placed into the downtown hotel, and attendee B would get placed out in Mission Valley. And OnPeak could report back to Comic-Con International that 100% of those three attendees were "successful" in getting a room they requested. Whereas, with a strictly linear system, only 66% of those attendees would've been "successful."

It's in their interest to use an algorithm like this to game the numbers and claim improvement over last year. I'm not saying or even speculating that is indeed what they do. But the process is so opaque, who knows?

Folks in the forum may disagree with this characterization of last year's process, but, I thought the general consensus last year was that the claims made by OnPeak about how the process was handled, versus the actual outcomes, had a number of wildly diverging aspects. On people discussing this situation on Reddit, the form access times and results did not seem to correlate properly. It's all anecdotal, of course, but there were lots of reports of persons with earlier form access times getting worse results than those with significantly later times. Did people inaccurately track their times? Maybe. But there seemed to be so much inconsistency, it sure seemed to me to indicate that OnPeak's sorting algorithms are a bit more complicated than we've been led to believe, or maybe their system is just glitchy and unreliable? I know someone on this forum has done much more exhaustive research on this so maybe I'm wrong and maybe the numbers in here are better than the ones that were on Reddit?

For this year, I left the non-downtown ones blank. I have no idea if it had any influence in improving my odds. I figure this theory has a very small chance of being true or being close to true enough that something similar is happening. For me, the difference between "any downtown" versus "anything in Mission Valley" is so enormous, I'd rather play those small odds to their fullest potential rather than maybe have an option at a slightly-more-preferable Mission Valley hotel or hotels. Next year, we'll probably know a lot more and I'll adjust my strategy accordingly :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on April 26, 2017, 03:13:13 PM
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Was there really any reason not to choose 6 non-downtown hotels other than the speculation of one of your 6 downtown hotels being cancelled after May 1st and then you getting it in the next release of emails?

For me, if I don't get downtown I don't really care what non-downtown hotel I get sorted into so to hopefully better my chances of getting a downtown hotel I want to make it clear that's the area that I want and won't "settle" for an alternative.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 03:58:08 PM
Looks like a few hotels didn't allocate ALL their rooms to SDCC.  I just got these in a Hotel search:

Hilton Bayfront:  $1,317 per night
Indigo:  $738 per night
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 04:01:55 PM
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For me, if I don't get downtown I don't really care what non-downtown hotel I get sorted into so to hopefully better my chances of getting a downtown hotel I want to make it clear that's the area that I want and won't "settle" for an alternative.
I'm with you on this MarvelGurl. I only put downtown choices because if it's not downtown, I know from prior experience, that I'm going to be spending very little time in the hotel, so I don't care where I stay. I'm perfectly fine sleeping on my camping pad, and I actually enjoy the camaraderie of the Hall H line. I've made friends for life that way. So, I'm sweating it, but I'm not sweating it.


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 26, 2017, 04:04:12 PM
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Looks like a few hotels didn't allocate ALL their rooms to SDCC.  I just got these in a Hotel search:

Hilton Bayfront:  $1,317 per night
Indigo:  $738 per night
I actually did laugh out loud in disbelief of the $1317 per night. Holy crap!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 04:11:11 PM
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I actually did laugh out loud in disbelief of the $1317 per night. Holy crap!

I've never seen a 4 digit hotel room price (per night) before...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 26, 2017, 04:15:38 PM
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Looks like a few hotels didn't allocate ALL their rooms to SDCC.  I just got these in a Hotel search:

Hilton Bayfront:  $1,317 per night
Indigo:  $738 per night

They have insane prices every year (basically.) One of the complaints (I believe from CCI in an article a while back) was that whenever the contracts are renegotiated, the hotels were always trying to negotiate fewer and fewer rooms in the blocks that CCI receives for their hotel lotto. Edit: So that way they have more private rooms to charge whatever they want with.

I basically gave up, after an hour, of trying to find the timestamp of my first queue pop. It, unfortunately, was in a browser that's apparently a ***** to find and I'm too tired and sick to deal with it. Maybe tomorrow, but I figure at this point it's done and I can try again later to add the data into the other thread.

Edit: added below, I'm surprised that I didn't get a notice that a new comment had been posted when I tried to post this.

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I've never seen a 4 digit hotel room price (per night) before...

I've seen one before, I think it was also for the Bayfront (just north of $1,000) last year but it was at the last-ish minute and it eventually disappeared, so...
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SDCCgal2015 on April 26, 2017, 04:16:45 PM
Not all hotel rooms go into the sale downtown, the allocate a certain amount that they agree upon then uocharge out the wahoo cause they can. Lol
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hikanteki on April 26, 2017, 04:47:29 PM
I only selected Downtown hotels because I only want Downtown hotels, with the exception of maybe the Best Western Old Town...but that one is usually available until close to the show, so I can probably book it if I don't line up anything else by then. Mission Valley is a total cluster, with most of the drawbacks of a cluster and none of the benefits. (Of course, downtown is even more of a cluster, but it has the benefits to show.)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 04:55:51 PM
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They have insane prices every year (basically.) One of the complaints (I believe from CCI in an article a while back) was that whenever the contracts are renegotiated, the hotels were always trying to negotiate fewer and fewer rooms in the blocks that CCI receives for their hotel lotto. Edit: So that way they have more private rooms to charge whatever they want with.

I basically gave up, after an hour, of trying to find the timestamp of my first queue pop. It, unfortunately, was in a browser that's apparently a ***** to find and I'm too tired and sick to deal with it. Maybe tomorrow, but I figure at this point it's done and I can try again later to add the data into the other thread.

Edit: added below, I'm surprised that I didn't get a notice that a new comment had been posted when I tried to post this.

I've seen one before, I think it was also for the Bayfront (just north of $1,000) last year but it was at the last-ish minute and it eventually disappeared, so...

They are probably taking advantage of today's anxiety.  It wasn't there a few days ago.  It will be interesting if anyone takes the room(s).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: straightline3 on April 26, 2017, 05:13:35 PM
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They are probably taking advantage of today's anxiety.  It wasn't there a few days ago.  It will be interesting if anyone takes the room(s).

Those prices are meant for people with corporate expense accounts. Or perhaps royalty.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mario Wario on April 26, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
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I've never seen a 4 digit hotel room price (per night) before...
That Hilton also had prices like that last year, even well before the con. So nothing new from that hotel; people do buy those rooms.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 26, 2017, 05:41:17 PM
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That Hilton also had prices like that last year, even well before the con. So nothing new from that hotel; people do buy those rooms.

Rally? I remember looking and it was in the $950-ish range, but definitely under $1,000. Maybe it did go up right before the con?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Mario Wario on April 26, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
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Rally? I remember looking and it was in the $950-ish range, but definitely under $1,000. Maybe it did go up right before the con?
Not kidding. I did see $1,000+ at that Hilton last year. I also remember it, because I showed it to my dad and he couldn't believe it. I should have taking a picture of it, but I didn't think of it at the time. Lol

I will say that this hotel, overall, loves to be pricey. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Michael M on April 26, 2017, 05:49:58 PM
It's a popular celeb hotel, can't tell you how many folks I've met, bumped into, spoke to.  That, plus the fact that I'm sure the celebs don't care what the price is.  But, as it's all about supply and demand, guess they can charge anything they want.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 26, 2017, 06:34:22 PM
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It's a popular celeb hotel, can't tell you how many folks I've met, bumped into, spoke to.  That, plus the fact that I'm sure the celebs don't care what the price is.  But, as it's all about supply and demand, guess they can charge anything they want.

True, they have been like that for a good few months (been checking on Booking.com almost daily)

That said, they fluctuate, and some of the more insane price will dive after May 8th.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: sefton42 on April 26, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
Ha.  Renaissance San Diego Downtown, not even all that close to the hotel, is available on Marriott's site for $1,079/night.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 26, 2017, 06:45:27 PM
As an aside, you can book the Keating Hotel in the Gaslamp... for next year. Currently listed at $465 USD a night on Hotels.com

More hotels will start opening up their rooms for 2018 via 3rd party sites after SDCC this year ends.

The Westin is also available at a whopping $807 USD a night for 2018 dates.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: susanml10881 on April 26, 2017, 07:58:21 PM
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Thank your friend for getting us that data point!  ;)

Did they at least waitlist or choose one of the other options like put me in any x hotel if y isn't available?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 08:03:49 PM
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It's a popular celeb hotel, can't tell you how many folks I've met, bumped into, spoke to.  That, plus the fact that I'm sure the celebs don't care what the price is.  But, as it's all about supply and demand, guess they can charge anything they want.

If the celebs are there for a panel, they don't have to pay for a room.  Each network and studio has blocks reserved for their people.  I don't know how many celebrities are there without a business tie-in.  Few, I would think.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 08:24:02 PM
Any word on why the Coronado hotels were missing from the sale? I checked the Coronado Marriott out of curiosity, they did have some $379 a night rates, but non-cancellable.

Also, I liked the addition of the green running person in lieu of the queue numbers, those numbers confused a lot of people in the last sale.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NeedaRoomPlease on April 26, 2017, 08:35:08 PM
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So people were running multiple browsers and that worked? Why would they set up a system like that, it seems really unfair.

I agree 110%....
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: SteveD on April 26, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
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Any word on why the Coronado hotels were missing from the sale? I checked the Coronado Marriott out of curiosity, they did have some $379 a night rates, but non-cancellable.

Also, I liked the addition of the green running person in lieu of the queue numbers, those numbers confused a lot of people in the last sale.
I think I saw on twitter that the Coronado hotel blocks were already 100% booked.  My guess is for talent.  Same with the Pendry.
We have seen hotels appear in the past during the waitlist that were not part of the original sale.  Maybe it will happen again?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 26, 2017, 08:53:43 PM
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I think I saw on twitter that the Coronado hotel blocks were already 100% booked.  My guess is for talent.  Same with the Pendry.
We have seen hotels appear in the past during the waitlist that were not part of the original sale.  Maybe it will happen again?

I think this will happen. I remember in the emails from the Sony leak someone talking about how they needed to confirm their block for the MGH by a certain date or they would lose them.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 26, 2017, 09:02:05 PM

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I think I saw on twitter that the Coronado hotel blocks were already 100% booked.  My guess is for talent.  Same with the Pendry.
We have seen hotels appear in the past during the waitlist that were not part of the original sale.  Maybe it will happen again?

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I think this will happen. I remember in the emails from the Sony leak someone talking about how they needed to confirm their block for the MGH by a certain date or the time would lose them.

Really interesting, (and I need to start going on twitter again.) Correction on my earlier post about the Coronado Marriott, i still see $371 a night but it can be canceled. I know the Del has been a popular spot for celebrities, but we've stayed at the Marriott several years and never saw any.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 26, 2017, 09:33:50 PM
I have another thought about the possibility that the Pendry was taken up entirely by VIP's.  If that's the case, maybe they were blocks that moved from other hotels.  Maybe this still added hotel rooms for attendees, even if it was indirect.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lawboysam on April 27, 2017, 04:24:36 AM
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We don't know the algorithm OnPeak uses, so this is indeed all speculation. But we do know that OnPeak cites statistics to Comic-Con International that specify the % of attendees who "got placed in a room of their choice."

We were finally able to confirm with onPeak (Director of Product Development, not a phone rep) AFTER the sale (sigh) that they are prioritizing downtown over non-downtown if you selected both. But that would have been good info to know beforehand.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: DRWHO42 on April 27, 2017, 04:35:58 AM
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We were finally able to confirm with onPeak (Director of Product Development, not a phone rep) AFTER the sale (sigh) that they are prioritizing downtown over non-downtown if you selected both. But that would have been good info to know beforehand.
Thanks for looking into it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 27, 2017, 05:59:29 AM
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We were finally able to confirm with onPeak (Director of Product Development, not a phone rep) AFTER the sale (sigh) that they are prioritizing downtown over non-downtown if you selected both. But that would have been good info to know beforehand.

That's great to hear, thank you!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: citizenmilton on April 27, 2017, 07:30:30 AM
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We were finally able to confirm with onPeak (Director of Product Development, not a phone rep) AFTER the sale (sigh) that they are prioritizing downtown over non-downtown if you selected both. But that would have been good info to know beforehand.

That's cool to know. You guys do such a fantastic job! I'm also curious what the order of preference is, in this (complicated but relevant) situation, if an attendee:

1. chose 6 downtown hotels, none of which are available at time of processing, but several other downtown hotels ARE available.
2. chose 6 non-downtown hotels, several of which are available at time of processing
3. chose the checkbox of, "If none of my preferred hotel choices are available... put me at closest available"

My GUESS is, that even with selection of the preference for proximity, and that they say they prioritize downtown, my guess is that in the above scenario, even though there are still downtown hotels available, just not ones you specified, I bet they'll put that submitter in one of the Mission Valley hotels that matched their preference selections. I could be totally wrong on that, but, it seems like the proximity of the hotel doesn't get factored in until "none of (your) preferred hotel choices are available".

That scenario is probably encountered by a non-trivial amount of submissions, and the common sense understanding of "prioritizing downtown" would maybe lead someone to expect that, "if there's anything downtown available, give that to me first," but I don't think that's what actually happens. In the above scenario, I think the submitter gets Mission Valley'd. Hence, why I left the non-downtown options blank.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 27, 2017, 07:51:05 AM
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That's cool to know. You guys do such a fantastic job! I'm also curious what the order of preference is, in this (complicated but relevant) situation, if an attendee:

1. chose 6 downtown hotels, none of which are available at time of processing, but several other downtown hotels ARE available.
2. chose 6 non-downtown hotels, several of which are available at time of processing
3. chose the checkbox of, "If none of my preferred hotel choices are available... put me at closest available"

My GUESS is, that even with selection of the preference for proximity, and that they say they prioritize downtown, my guess is that in the above scenario, even though there are still downtown hotels available, just not ones you specified, I bet they'll put that submitter in one of the Mission Valley hotels that matched their preference selections. I could be totally wrong on that, but, it seems like the proximity of the hotel doesn't get factored in until "none of (your) preferred hotel choices are available".

That scenario is probably encountered by a non-trivial amount of submissions, and the common sense understanding of "prioritizing downtown" would maybe lead someone to expect that, "if there's anything downtown available, give that to me first," but I don't think that's what actually happens. In the above scenario, I think the submitter gets Mission Valley'd. Hence, why I left the non-downtown options blank.

This exact scenario is why I only listed 6 downtown hotels and then selected the "book me into the closest hotel if none of mine are available" option. I was too worried that if I listed any non-downtown at all, that if my 6 downtown weren't available, they'd just put me in non-downtown even thought that option for booking the closest was selected. I didn't want to be Mission Valley'd either.  :D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on April 27, 2017, 07:54:34 AM
I'm still confused about the waitlist option. It had no other info except to be put on the waitlist. Are they going to do that weird thing where you just go look at whatever is left and pick something like last year?

With the 2 waves of confirmations, it feels like you have to make some hard choices: take what you get on may 1 (which might not be what you want), roll the dice and see if you get something may 8, or take a chance with a not explained waitlist.

My first thought with the 2 waves is that a lot of downtown hotels will go back into the pool because those who get what they want may 1 will have other group members who cancel/don't deposit. But now I wondee if they give those rooms to the waitlist or to the may 8 group.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 27, 2017, 07:56:15 AM


That scenario is probably encountered by a non-trivial amount of submissions, and the common sense understanding of "prioritizing downtown" would maybe lead someone to expect that, "if there's anything downtown available, give that to me first," but I don't think that's what actually happens. In the above scenario, I think the submitter gets Mission Valley'd. Hence, why I left the non-downtown options blank.
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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 09:18:52 AM
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I'm still confused about the waitlist option. It had no other info except to be put on the waitlist. Are they going to do that weird thing where you just go look at whatever is left and pick something like last year?

With the 2 waves of confirmations, it feels like you have to make some hard choices: take what you get on may 1 (which might not be what you want), roll the dice and see if you get something may 8, or take a chance with a not explained waitlist.

My first thought with the 2 waves is that a lot of downtown hotels will go back into the pool because those who get what they want may 1 will have other group members who cancel/don't deposit. But now I wondee if they give those rooms to the waitlist or to the may 8 group.

This is the dilemma I tried to express a few screens ago.

In the past, if you don't take a hotel, you don't get on the waitlist.  You just get dropped from the system.  The only people on the waitlist in the past were people who got nothing or people who got a hotel they didn't want.

That's the way I understood it, but I could be wrong.  Maybe you do get on the waitlist if you don't like the hotel they gave you.  Maybe someone can expand on that.  I've never asked to be on the waitlist.

But, now, with two waves, it's unclear whether you take the hotel you don't want, but are in the front of the line on May 8th OR you move to the back of the line.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 27, 2017, 09:25:55 AM
So far it appears that a lot of people did not list non-downtown hotels and chose the closest to the con option. There's a kind of game theory thing in the current approach that is tricky, if you are location sensitive at some point you would want to start adding some preferable non-downtown hotels but it's hard to know at what point that would start. 

I think that, with the randomization, things are at the point where they should just let you submit the form during some period, at your leisure, AND allow you to provide a more complete set of preferences. I do worry that the current system is open to being gamed in several ways, but that could be mostly solved by not having a live submission and by requiring the use of a CCI member id, (not necessarily a badge but I know that has a lot of support.)

I like the distance, price and shuttle options, they should keep that but also allow you to enter an area (downtown, Harbor island, ...) as a choice. They could also allow you to prioritize as many hotels (the list isn't that long) and areas as you want, so you could rank all of them if you wanted or just a couple, or even just pick closest to the con, which corresponds pretty well to a lot of people's top 6 list anyway.

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This is the dilemma I tried to express a few screens ago.

In the past, if you don't take a hotel, you don't get on the waitlist.  You just get dropped from the system.  The only people on the waitlist in the past were people who got nothing or people who got a hotel they didn't want.

That's the way I understood it, but I could be wrong.  Maybe you do get on the waitlist if you don't like the hotel they gave you.  Maybe someone can expand on that.  I've never asked to be on the waitlist.

But, now, with two waves, it's unclear whether you take the hotel you don't want, but are in the front of the line on May 8th OR you move to the back of the line.

Last year you did stay on the waitlist even if you didn't take the hotel they gave you. But yeah, we don't know if that will be the same.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 27, 2017, 09:34:47 AM
I really do think we need to head towards a system that prioritizes badge holders.  Then again, perhaps they've done their research and determined that very few non-badge holders actually participate in the hotel lottery that implementing a system that prioritizes badge holders is not worth the headaches that could come with it.

I require proximity to the convention center as I do a lot of costuming.  Getting a room very close by can be a huge difference maker for me.  That's why I didn't put any non-downtown hotels on my list.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 09:43:49 AM
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I really do think we need to head towards a system that prioritizes badge holders.  Then again, perhaps they've done their research and determined that very few non-badge holders actually participate in the hotel lottery that implementing a system that prioritizes badge holders is not worth the headaches that could come with it.

I require proximity to the convention center as I do a lot of costuming.  Getting a room very close by can be a huge difference maker for me.  That's why I didn't put any non-downtown hotels on my list.

I've been adamantly against it, and still will be. I highly doubt the numbers of non-badge holders getting hotels are that high. Even then, I've seen people who say they want to have the sale be badge-holder only, then admit to using multiple browsers to try and get a hotel. (I'm not referencing you mind you, but just saying)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 27, 2017, 09:48:15 AM
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I've been adamantly against it, and still will be. I highly doubt the numbers of non-badge holders getting hotels are that high. Even then, I've seen people who say they want to have the sale be badge-holder only, then admit to using multiple browsers to try and get a hotel. (I'm not referencing you mind you, but just saying)

Yeah I can understand that and like I said they may have data that shows non-badge holder participants are not that high.

I am one of those who tried with multiple browsers, but that's because the system allows it.  It didn't benefit me this year though as I didn't access the form until around 9:05 so I'm likely screwed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 09:50:31 AM
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Yeah I can understand that and like I said they may have data that shows non-badge holder participants are not that high.

I am one of those who tried with multiple browsers, but that's because the system allows it.  It didn't benefit me this year though as I didn't access the form until around 9:05 so I'm likely screwed.

I didn't use multiple browsers, though I wish I would have. I got in at 9:03.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 27, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 10:00:25 AM
Even if they don't limit it to badgeholders, limiting it to one entry per Member ID would solve the multiple-browser problem. They could do it exactly like badge sales (unique link/code). This wouldn't penalize anyone except people too lazy to make a Member ID, and it would (mostly) solve the duplicate entries problem.

If they required you to put in a credit card that would be charged immediately upon room assignment it might solve it completely. Although that's not really fair if they give you something you hate. Maybe an immediate charge, but with a 48-hour no penalty refund option? That would still discourage lots of people b/c you'd have to be willing to have $300-650 unavailable for 3-4 days.

Aaargh, they just need to move to live-booking already.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 10:06:33 AM
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Even if they don't limit it to badgeholders, limiting it to one entry per Member ID would solve the multiple-browser problem. They could do it exactly like badge sales (unique link/code). This wouldn't penalize anyone except people too lazy to make a Member ID, and it would (mostly) solve the duplicate entries problem.

If they required you to put in a credit card that would be charged immediately upon room assignment it might solve it completely. Although that's not really fair if they give you something you hate. Maybe an immediate charge, but with a 48-hour no penalty refund option? That would still discourage lots of people b/c you'd have to be willing to have $300-650 unavailable for 3-4 days.

Aaargh, they just need to move to live-booking already.

As I told you yesterday, I'm all for this.  Both ideas.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 27, 2017, 10:18:37 AM
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Even if they don't limit it to badgeholders, limiting it to one entry per Member ID would solve the multiple-browser problem. They could do it exactly like badge sales (unique link/code). This wouldn't penalize anyone except people too lazy to make a Member ID, and it would (mostly) solve the duplicate entries problem.

If they required you to put in a credit card that would be charged immediately upon room assignment it might solve it completely. Although that's not really fair if they give you something you hate. Maybe an immediate charge, but with a 48-hour no penalty refund option? That would still discourage lots of people b/c you'd have to be willing to have $300-650 unavailable for 3-4 days.

Aaargh, they just need to move to live-booking already.

I think I would prefer this too.

I'm hoping they do the two waves of emails  like they should where the 2nd wave gets a shot at those unclaimed rooms from the first wave.  That would partially eliminate the put up or shut up problem of room hoarders.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 27, 2017, 10:22:47 AM
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I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.

I did as well.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 27, 2017, 10:29:06 AM
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Even if they don't limit it to badgeholders, limiting it to one entry per Member ID would solve the multiple-browser problem. They could do it exactly like badge sales (unique link/code). This wouldn't penalize anyone except people too lazy to make a Member ID, and it would (mostly) solve the duplicate entries problem.

If they required you to put in a credit card that would be charged immediately upon room assignment it might solve it completely. Although that's not really fair if they give you something you hate. Maybe an immediate charge, but with a 48-hour no penalty refund option? That would still discourage lots of people b/c you'd have to be willing to have $300-650 unavailable for 3-4 days.

Aaargh, they just need to move to live-booking already.

For what it's worth, I think maybe there are two groups of "multiple-browser" people here.  I am in the group that had as many browsers open as I could and then I only submitted the form once from the browser that got me in the fastest and closed out of the other browsers thus losing my place in those virtual lines before they took me to the form.  I do not think in any way this is unfair.

It sounds like what everyone is getting frustrated about is people opening multiple browsers and then submitting the forms multiple times.  Wouldn't they get flagged as duplicates anyway and have their duplicate submissions tossed?  Or are those people just filling it out using different names/addresses/email addresses?  I don't love that if that's indeed what is happening.   
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 27, 2017, 10:31:47 AM
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I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.

Same here. Another interesting thing they did was to only give the link to the sale page to people that had badges or had some other kind of registration like professionals. It was still easy to find out the url, (especially since it was the same as last year and it was the top level domain in the test/example links that they did give.)

I don't want to over-speculate (who am I kidding I always want to over-speculate) but that's 2 things tied to membership or attendance.  The email they sent did have unique codes (for all of the links in the email not just the link to the sale site.) Those weren't used for the sale but they could be used for tracking some things I guess, only if you actually clicked on the link or copied the complete link.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 27, 2017, 10:33:14 AM
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I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.

I did too.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
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For what it's worth, I think maybe there are two groups of "multiple-browser" people here.  I am in the group that had as many browsers open as I could and then I only submitted the form once from the browser that got me in the fastest and closed out of the other browsers thus losing my place in those virtual lines before they took me to the form.  I do not think in any way this is unfair.

It sounds like what everyone is getting frustrated about is people opening multiple browsers and then submitting the forms multiple times.  Wouldn't they get flagged as duplicates anyway and have their duplicate submissions tossed?  Or are those people just filling it out using different names/addresses/email addresses?  I don't love that if that's indeed what is happening.

No offense, but it still is unfair. You can claim it's not. But you entered a bunch of times, and then picked the one that got you to the form the earliest. Versus had you done it once, you may not have gotten there as quickly, giving you an advantage. That's fair? An "advantage" of any kind means it's not fair.

I'm less frustrated by the people opening multiple browsers and submitting multiple forms because chances are, they will only keep one request maybe two.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: foxbatkllr on April 27, 2017, 10:35:05 AM
I had multiple browsers open but only submitted once then closed out of the others, even though I could've done multiple names/emails.  In the past I've submitted entries for myself and my wife, but one was always slower than the other and the slower one didn't get anything so I figured why bother.

As for the member ID, I honestly can't remember if I put mine in or not.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MarvelGurl on April 27, 2017, 10:37:39 AM
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For what it's worth, I think maybe there are two groups of "multiple-browser" people here.  I am in the group that had as many browsers open as I could and then I only submitted the form once from the browser that got me in the fastest and closed out of the other browsers thus losing my place in those virtual lines before they took me to the form.  I do not think in any way this is unfair.

It sounds like what everyone is getting frustrated about is people opening multiple browsers and then submitting the forms multiple times.  Wouldn't they get flagged as duplicates anyway and have their duplicate submissions tossed?  Or are those people just filling it out using different names/addresses/email addresses?  I don't love that if that's indeed what is happening.

I freely admit to being a multiple browser submission person, and I tell you without that method a few members here and a couple of my con goer friends wouldn't have received downtown hotels in years past. What's the difference between having multiple browsers open and having all your roommates try for a downtown hotel on different computers? I always use my unique information, and then my mom's unique info (she comes with me every year), and then another family member's. Also, any hotels that don't have a deposit on them get dumped back into the pool after the deadline.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 27, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
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No offense, but it still is unfair. You can claim it's not. But you entered a bunch of times, and then picked the one that got you to the form the earliest. Versus had you done it once, you may not have gotten there as quickly, giving you an advantage. That's fair? An "advantage" of any kind means it's not fair.

I'm less frustrated by the people opening multiple browsers and submitting multiple forms because chances are, they will only keep one request maybe two.

Totally understand your concern and I'm not trying to spark a debate, but it could be looked at a different way as well.  The form I got in earliest on could have been from the only form I opened.  Also, because I'm closing out of other forms, that means I'm opening up that spot in line. 

Additionally, this "advantage" is not unique to any individual, given that absolutely everyone could open up multiple browsers.  I guess by your logic this would mean you're frustrated by groups of people who are sharing a room but each person submits their own individual request for a room?  I honestly think we're all in the same boat trying to do whatever we can do to get a room.  The system isn't perfect, but the strategies to get a room are readily available for everyone to partake in.  And thankfully we have this forum so we can share extra rooms with people who need them!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 10:41:54 AM
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I freely admit to being a multiple browser submission person, and I tell you without that method a few members here and a couple of my con goer friends wouldn't have received downtown hotels in years past. What's the difference between having multiple browsers open and having all your roommates try for a downtown hotel on different computers? I always use my unique information, and then my mom's unique info (she comes with me every year), and then another family member's. Also, any hotels that don't have a deposit on them get dumped back into the pool after the deadline.

Easy. How many roommates do you have? Lets say 3 more. So that's 4 total computers. Now if you each have multiple browsers, lets say just 2. Then you have 8 entries instead of 4. This also affects others who may get in later as well. So there you go. I'm absolutely for every Member ID only having one entry into the hotel lottery. Everyone claims those who don't have badges shouldn't have access to the lottery, but I bet there are less of them, than those who used multiple browsers.

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Totally understand your concern and I'm not trying to spark a debate, but it could be looked at a different way as well.  The form I got in earliest on could have been from the only form I opened.  Also, because I'm closing out of other forms, that means I'm opening up that spot in line. 

Additionally, this "advantage" is not unique to any individual, given that absolutely everyone could open up multiple browsers.  I guess by your logic this would mean you're frustrated by groups of people who are sharing a room but each person submits their own individual request for a room?  I honestly think we're all in the same boat trying to do whatever we can do to get a room.  The system isn't perfect, but the strategies to get a room are readily available for everyone to partake in.  And thankfully we have this forum so we can share extra rooms with people who need them!

Sure, your example could have happened. But you're using a hypothetical. We don't know if that's what would have happened. Instead, we're taking what you did do, picking the one with the advantage and using that form.

Bear in mind, I don't mind everybody and their roommates entering. That's what I did. I entered and my roommate entered. But it's vastly different when it's 2 people or 4 people vs then multiplying that number by 2 or 3 or 4 browsers. I doubt people have 8 roommates or 12 roommates.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 10:45:55 AM
[member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member] I don't think anyone has a problem with one submission per attendee, even if you happen to be rooming together. That's totally fair.

People are complaining about the use of multiple browser windows to get additional chances to get into the form early. And I agree - it's definitely not fair to the people who don't do that. It's also not violating any of CCI's policies.  So the problem then becomes, do you follow the strictest interpretation of "fair" and ultimately get screwed because other people game the system any way they can? Or do you accept that everyone is going to do whatever is best for them, irregardless of fairness, and join them because it makes it fairer for you?

The answer is, both choices suck. And the blame lies squarely on CCI and OnPeak for their halfhearted and clumsy attempts at making the process fair. They could do better. Year after year, they choose not to.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 10:49:26 AM
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People are complaining about the use of multiple browser windows to get additional chances to get into the form early. And I agree - it's definitely not fair to the people who don't do that. It's also not violating any of CCI's policies.  So the problem then becomes, do you follow the strictest interpretation of "fair" and ultimately get screwed because other people game the system any way they can? Or do you accept that everyone is going to do whatever is best for them, irregardless of fairness, and join them because it makes it fairer for you?

Actually I do believe it's against CCI policies. They're just too dumb to implement a way to prevent multiple browsers. (Not sure why they don't just do the 1 entry per Member ID scenario which would solve all the problems.) I say this, because if they don't care about people entering multiple times, then why even have the Unique ID number at the bottom? Why then get rid of duplicates?

Like I said, I think they don't want people entering multiple times, but they don't have a great way to prevent it.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 27, 2017, 10:52:33 AM
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[member=2500]MarvelGurl[/member] I don't think anyone has a problem with one submission per attendee, even if you happen to be rooming together. That's totally fair.

People are complaining about the use of multiple browser windows to get additional chances to get into the form early. And I agree - it's definitely not fair to the people who don't do that. It's also not violating any of CCI's policies.  So the problem then becomes, do you follow the strictest interpretation of "fair" and ultimately get screwed because other people game the system any way they can? Or do you accept that everyone is going to do whatever is best for them, irregardless of fairness, and join them because it makes it fairer for you?

The answer is, both choices suck. And the blame lies squarely on CCI and OnPeak for their halfhearted and clumsy attempts at making the process fair. They could do better. Year after year, they choose not to.

Totally agree with you.  Unfortunately in order to get the best chance at getting a room and maximizing your SDCC experience, we're forced to bend the interpretation of "fair".  I've been participating in the hotel purchase process for SDCC for 5 years, so I had to adapt to the new lottery method just like everyone else.  This year was the first year I tried the multiple browser options because last year, I opened one browser, submitted one request, and got NO hotel.  I didn't even get anything through the waitlist.  Luckily one of my roommates was able to get something, but I figured this year I would try what I knew plenty of others were trying so maybe I'd have a shot this time around.

I'm all for CCI figuring out a system that levels the playing field for everyone.  But until then, here we are.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 10:56:44 AM
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Actually I do believe it's against CCI policies. They're just too dumb to implement a way to prevent multiple browsers. (Not sure why they don't just do the 1 entry per Member ID scenario which would solve all the problems.) I say this, because if they don't care about people entering multiple times, then why even have the Unique ID number at the bottom? Why then get rid of duplicates?

Like I said, I think they don't want people entering multiple times, but they don't have a great way to prevent it.

They do have a great way to prevent it - do it exactly like badge sales, with a unique link and code.

And as far as I know, it's not against CCI's stated policy. I'm certain it's against their intent, but nowhere on the hotels page on their website, nor in the housing email, does it say "you may only enter the waiting room once". It absolutely should! But, again, they didn't even bother to make it policy, much less make it enforceable.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 10:59:51 AM
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They do have a great way to prevent it - do it exactly like badge sales, with a unique link and code.

And as far as I know, it's not against CCI's stated policy. I'm certain it's against their intent, but nowhere on the hotels page on their website, nor in the housing email, does it say "you may only enter the waiting room once". It absolutely should! But, again, they didn't even bother to make it policy, much less make it enforceable.

I really don't think it even needs to go that far. I have a gut feeling, that the reason they added the Member ID section this year, was for future years. Where you're required to have a Member ID in order to enter the hotel lottery. And yes, you're right. I misspoke. I don't mean "policy" as it's a written rule of theirs. But indeed intent. I doubt they intend for people to enter with multiple browsers.

But again, I believe the inclusion of the Member ID section is in preparation for 1 entry per Member ID in the future. Then if there are duplicates (where some people still want to game the system with making multiple Member IDs) then you do what they did last year, give you the later timestamp.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 27, 2017, 11:08:36 AM
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No offense, but it still is unfair. You can claim it's not. But you entered a bunch of times, and then picked the one that got you to the form the earliest. Versus had you done it once, you may not have gotten there as quickly, giving you an advantage. That's fair? An "advantage" of any kind means it's not fair.

I'm less frustrated by the people opening multiple browsers and submitting multiple forms because chances are, they will only keep one request maybe two.

I'm sorry, your logic has lost me -- how are you LESS frustrated by people using multiple browsers AND submitting multiple times as opposed to using multiple browsers while only submitting once?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: DRWHO42 on April 27, 2017, 11:12:02 AM
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I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.
I did.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 11:14:33 AM
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I'm sorry, your logic has lost me -- how are you LESS frustrated by people using multiple browsers AND submitting multiple times as opposed to using multiple browsers while only submitting once?

Simple. Because chances are most people are 1) not submitting a bunch of times with their multiple browsers, and even if they were, unless every single entry was right at 9:00, some will be later and 2) they're not going to keep every hotel they receive anyways. So say someone entered 10 times, they're not keeping 10 hotels.

I don't like this scenario either, mind you, but I feel like there are many more people using multiple browsers and picking the window that gets in earlier. Plus, I feel like this has a bigger affect on the overall lottery than those who submit multiple times.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
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I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.

My husband and I both did as well. Figured it couldn't hurt, and if there was any infinitesimal chance they were giving any priority to people with Member IDs we wanted it. :P
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 27, 2017, 11:20:15 AM
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I'd be curious as to how many people filled in their Member ID as it was an optional item to include. I thought it couldn't hurt, so I did.
i filled in the member id, as to hoping this helped some how even though it's not a required field. ;)

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Violet on April 27, 2017, 11:26:34 AM
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My husband and I both did as well. Figured it couldn't hurt, and if there was any infinitesimal chance they were giving any priority to people with Member IDs we wanted it. :P

Haha, yep, we used the same logic!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: tsnyder on April 27, 2017, 11:28:10 AM
Well after 2 years of trying with just a single session and getting shut out of downtown hotels during lottery I had 4 laptops open with 2 browsers on each this year and will continue to do so going forward until they institute a unique link like they do for badges.  Submitted our requests on the first browsers that were given access then closed out the rest.  With the cost and effort to go to SDCC I'm going to do whatever I can to enhance my chances and overall experience.  That includes buying groups, hotel exchanges, Hall H line groups, etc which I guess could all be considered not "fair".
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Javier on April 27, 2017, 11:35:10 AM
I had multiple browsers open and and using my phone on data, all got in around the same time.....9:10 ugh!!!! :(
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 11:37:58 AM
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I really do think we need to head towards a system that prioritizes badge holders.  Then again, perhaps they've done their research and determined that very few non-badge holders actually participate in the hotel lottery that implementing a system that prioritizes badge holders is not worth the headaches that could come with it.

I require proximity to the convention center as I do a lot of costuming.  Getting a room very close by can be a huge difference maker for me.  That's why I didn't put any non-downtown hotels on my list.

I doubt they've done any research.  I do know a lot of people who participate who don't have badges, but go to San Diego for Nerd HQ.  In previous years, they've gotten hotels like the Omni.  Maybe it's only 20-30 people, but that's 20-30 badgeholders that don't get what they want.

They haven't issued trade professional badges yet.  But, they can allow us to participate.  But, Pros also get guest badges.  My guest doesn't have a regular badge or her guest badge yet.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 27, 2017, 11:41:57 AM
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My husband and I both did as well. Figured it couldn't hurt, and if there was any infinitesimal chance they were giving any priority to people with Member IDs we wanted it. :P

My friends and I did as well (I told them to make sure they did it.) I was actually hoping that it could prevent being marked as a duplicate if you used MemberIDs only once (once I panicked when I had to submit a form for my friend at the last minute, and I entered MY phone number and it was marked as a duplicate last year, even though it had different information and she was a badge holder. And last year it wasn't completely make clear it was when you got in, not submitted.) I was doing the same for another friend this year and I had all the information ready to go, but just in case I freaked out again lol.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: DRWHO42 on April 27, 2017, 11:42:03 AM
Similar to Professionals the Press attendees have to go through the same lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 11:45:37 AM
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They haven't issued trade professional badges yet.  But, they can allow us to participate.  But, Pros also get guest badges.  My guest doesn't have a regular badge or her guest badge yet.

Do they require Member IDs for guest badges? Because then they could still limit to Member IDs at least.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 27, 2017, 11:46:30 AM
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Simple. Because chances are most people are 1) not submitting a bunch of times with their multiple browsers, and even if they were, unless every single entry was right at 9:00, some will be later and 2) they're not going to keep every hotel they receive anyways. So say someone entered 10 times, they're not keeping 10 hotels.

I don't like this scenario either, mind you, but I feel like there are many more people using multiple browsers and picking the window that gets in earlier. Plus, I feel like this has a bigger affect on the overall lottery than those who submit multiple times.

...So, again, I'm not following your logic at all. How is that less frustrating to you? It's the exact same net result -- people getting a single reservation. Only, the people who are submitting multiple forms from multiple browsers are actively delaying people during the lottery itself from having a chance and forcing them into worse positions and potential waitlisting and aggravation, while the people doing multiple browsers and submitting only once are closing their other browsers and immediately bumping up the queue so others can actually get in valid registrations.

And, if it's an option that literally every single person going for the sale has available to them, it's not unfair. By definition, it's not unfair. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean you've been wronged. But you do you, I guess.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 11:51:41 AM
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...So, again, I'm not following your logic at all. How is that less frustrating to you? It's the exact same net result -- people getting a single reservation. Only, the people who are submitting multiple forms from multiple browsers are actively delaying people during the lottery itself from having a chance and forcing them into worse positions and potential waitlisting and aggravation, while the people doing multiple browsers and submitting only once are closing their other browsers and immediately bumping up the queue so others can actually get in valid registrations.

And, if it's an option that literally every single person going for the sale has available to them, it's not unfair. By definition, it's not unfair. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean you've been wronged. But you do you, I guess.

Again, it's quite simple. Numbers. How many people used multiple browsers and submitted multiple times, versus someone using multiple browsers but submitted only once.  It's my belief that MANY more people used multiple browsers but only submitted once. Though a tiny sample size, the members here who have posted all have said they had multiple browsers but only submitted once.  Yes, both ways affect others, but the one that frustrates me will be the one that more people choose to do.

Secondly, you're speaking for every person in the world. I highly doubt every person had the exact same option as you state. Someone just said they used 4 computers. I highly doubt everyone has access to 4 computers at once. So that single example alone is enough to show its unfair. Fair means it's equal for everyone. Unless this is in a vacuum, fairness is not equal with regards to the lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 27, 2017, 11:53:20 AM
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I didn't use multiple browsers, though I wish I would have. I got in at 9:03.

Now you know for next year.


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Again, it's quite simple. Numbers. How many people used multiple browsers and submitted multiple times, versus someone using multiple browsers but submitted only once.  It's my belief that MANY more people used multiple browsers but only submitted once. Though a tiny sample size, the members here who have posted all have said they had multiple browsers but only submitted once.  Yes, both ways affect others, but the one that frustrates me will be the one that more people choose to do.

Secondly, you're speaking for every person in the world. I highly doubt every person had the exact same option as you state. Someone just said they used 4 computers. I highly doubt everyone has access to 4 computers at once. So there. That alone shows it's unfair. Fair means it's equal for everyone. Unless this is in a vacuum, fairness is not equal with regards to the lottery.

You could go to a library that has multiple computers.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Jonathan on April 27, 2017, 11:55:42 AM
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Now you know for next year.


You could go to a library that has multiple computers.

I don't know the libraries in your city. But here in California, every library I've ever been to requires you to use your library card and "login." Even if I didn't need to do that, they're always taken. You'll never see more than 1 or 2 computers not used, and with that said, they're never next to one another. I'd look weird having to jump around LOL.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 11:56:21 AM
I bet that SDCC is the only event that OnPeak works for that has the hotel issues we deal with.  They usually work for profressional conferences and conventions where there is no shortage of hotel rooms and no big rush for hotels.

As a vendor that is hired by SDCC, they probably have to institute processes that aren't required on any other contract they have.  I think this is probably the reason techniques that seem obvious to us--e.g. unique log-ins--aren't as obvious or easy to institute to them.  So, they are going to move slow and be reluctant to spend money on software that is only needed for one contract.

The frustrating thing to me has always been the lack of transparency.  There are still so many things they do that is a mystery.  I wonder if even the people who pay them--Comic Con--ask the questions we ask or demand things we wish.

Has anyone gone to the Comic-Con talkback and expressed their concerns to the PTB directly?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 12:00:10 PM
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Do they require Member IDs for guest badges? Because then they could still limit to Member IDs at least.

I think they do.

But, tons of people have member ID's who don't have badges or don't plan to have badges.  My "NerdHQ-only" friends have Member ID's, but not badges.  If you've EVER applied for a Comic-Con badge, you have a member ID.  You can get a member ID even if you don't plan on getting a badge.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: joyful_314 on April 27, 2017, 12:01:05 PM
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I don't know the libraries in your city. But here in California, every library I've ever been to requires you to use your library card and "login." Even if I didn't need to do that, they're always taken. You'll never see more than 1 or 2 computers not used, and with that said, they're never next to one another. I'd look weird having to jump around LOL.

Well I am in California and have been to a library before. All I am saying, is what you consider "fair" is uncalled for. Everyone has unique circumstances and opportunities for stuff like this.. Just because you may not want to jump around, other people may be willing to. You even said you wish you would have used multiple browsers, now your pointing your finger at people who did..

Just don't understand
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 27, 2017, 12:04:05 PM
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Again, it's quite simple. Numbers. How many people used multiple browsers and submitted multiple times, versus someone using multiple browsers but submitted only once.  It's my belief that MANY more people used multiple browsers but only submitted once. Though a tiny sample size, the members here who have posted all have said they had multiple browsers but only submitted once.  Yes, both ways affect others, but the one that frustrates me will be the one that more people choose to do.

Secondly, you're speaking for every person in the world. I highly doubt every person had the exact same option as you state. Someone just said they used 4 computers. I highly doubt everyone has access to 4 computers at once. So that single example alone is enough to show its unfair. Fair means it's equal for everyone. Unless this is in a vacuum, fairness is not equal with regards to the lottery.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: cbaggs on April 27, 2017, 12:06:43 PM
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Well after 2 years of trying with just a single session and getting shut out of downtown hotels during lottery I had 4 laptops open with 2 browsers on each this year and will continue to do so going forward until they institute a unique link like they do for badges.  Submitted our requests on the first browsers that were given access then closed out the rest.  With the cost and effort to go to SDCC I'm going to do whatever I can to enhance my chances and overall experience.  That includes buying groups, hotel exchanges, Hall H line groups, etc which I guess could all be considered not "fair".

Hear, hear!  And I continue to be absolutely beyond grateful to this community for giving me all the great info that it does so that I have better chances at attending a convention that I love every year!   
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Angie on April 27, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
As others have suggested before, maybe they should do it like the parking lottery. A window of hours for everyone to submit. Then all submissions are randomly selected to be processed. No more time stamps. No more worrying about browsers, sessions, etc. A truly random processing of requests. They could still do the duplicate thing (however they are deciding that - still don't know) and the waitlist. People working in groups will have rooms that fall back in and then they can work on the waitlist.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 27, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
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Again, it's quite simple. Numbers. How many people used multiple browsers and submitted multiple times, versus someone using multiple browsers but submitted only once.  It's my belief that MANY more people used multiple browsers but only submitted once. Though a tiny sample size, the members here who have posted all have said they had multiple browsers but only submitted once.  Yes, both ways affect others, but the one that frustrates me will be the one that more people choose to do.

Secondly, you're speaking for every person in the world. I highly doubt every person had the exact same option as you state. Someone just said they used 4 computers. I highly doubt everyone has access to 4 computers at once. So that single example alone is enough to show its unfair. Fair means it's equal for everyone. Unless this is in a vacuum, fairness is not equal with regards to the lottery.

While I'm a fan of the one CCI ID/one entry methodology, I don't think that the methods people used in this sale were any inherently more or less "fair" than the ways people got ahead using the old system. On the old system, if you were a faster than average typer, you instantly had an advantage that some may see as unfair; or, if your form loaded instantly while everyone else's was delayed. The last year they did it by timestamp submission, I had a form that took almost a minute to load and that put me significantly behind everyone else while others had a form that didn't even load properly. Honestly, I think the current system is more fair even with the knowledge that some people running multiple browsers.

At the end of the day, outside of a truly random lottery where each person gets one entry (i.e., badge sales), nothing truly gives everyone an equal chance. Even that system, you could say that people who go in a large group have an advantage over people who just go by themselves or as a couple. I mean take a look at the ACE Parking lottery where you had people who clearly submitted 1000s of emails.

I understand your frustration but, at the end of the day, I don't think anyone here is purposely trying to cheat anyone else out of a hotel room or selling a hotel room for a higher price (those are obviously unfair and wrong) and I hope that if any groups do get extra rooms (through whatever means they used), they choose to help out members here who weren't as lucky. :)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 12:17:27 PM
While I would love them to have unique ID's to enter the waiting room, whatever system they use, somebody is going to figure out a way to game the system.  Even with the unique ID's for the badge sale, people use buying groups, get multiple member ID's, etc.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: marcia29 on April 27, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
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I did.
So did I.  Maybe that will give us an advantage.  :D
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 27, 2017, 12:35:36 PM
I want to list out the good things this year too, it's not perfect but I do think they have made some improvements.

Explicit and clear communication about how randomization played a role.
Example form was good, worked fine (last year there was that issue with the watermark,) and gave people time to process the new options.
Addition of an option that included cost, distance too but cost was something really important to add in my opinion.
Running person replacing the queue numbers.
The software (so far as we know) worked smoothly, things started on time and I didn't notice or hear about any congestion issues.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hipchick on April 27, 2017, 12:46:17 PM
I used two computers and three browsers per computer. I learned from previous years. I wasn't trying to get a crap ton of entries that is too difficult when you just need a room for two people. Just making sure I had multiple chances of getting randomized into a group that let me in immediately and I submitted one request for myself and one for my husband. I closed everything else out after I finished.

I also entered member ID for me and for my husband. I figure if they REALLY wanted to, they can scan member IDs with CCI to see who has a badge and prioritize them with a hotel. They're a vendor tho so I don't think they are that sophisticated. My guess is they are doing some kind of research to see how many ppl with IDs are participating vs those who don't have IDs. I doubt it will go anywhere though.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hikanteki on April 27, 2017, 12:56:15 PM
I don't think they should limit the hotel lottery to badge holders per se, but they should limit it to people with Member IDs. Volunteers, exhibitors, comp badges, etc need hotels too. Anyone who is associated with Comic-Con should know to have a Member ID. If someone who isn't going to Comic-Con at all really wants to go through the drama of the lottery for a chance to be able to book a hotel at $300+/night when it would be half the price any other week...let them, I guess.

Also, there are always hotels available until the con...just not downtown ones. Giving badged attendees priority for the downtown ones just seems like too many specifics to block a relatively small group of people.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: DRWHO42 on April 27, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
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I want to list out the good things this year too, it's not perfect but I do think they have made some improvements.

Explicit and clear communication about how randomization played a role.
Example form was good, worked fine (last year there was that issue with the watermark,) and gave people time to process the new options.
Addition of an option that included cost, distance too but cost was something really important to add in my opinion.
Running person replacing the queue numbers.
The software (so far as we know) worked smoothly, things started on time and I didn't notice or hear about any congestion issues.
Very good points.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LB42 on April 27, 2017, 01:00:11 PM
Requesting the member ID seems like a data mining expedition to me. By adding this data point to the registration form, they should be able to get some decent data on what percentage of rooms go to members and from there what percentage of members are awarded downtown vs shuttle route vs wholly shut out of  rooms.  Depending on the data exchange between CCI and on peak, they may also be able to drill down and find the percentages of attendees receiving rooms etc.  This could help CCI evaluate and address the nagging concern that a disproportionate number of downtown rooms are awarded to non-attendees. Now - will they actually do that or will that data go in the round file - who knows.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 01:02:48 PM
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I want to list out the good things this year too, it's not perfect but I do think they have made some improvements.

Explicit and clear communication about how randomization played a role.
Example form was good, worked fine (last year there was that issue with the watermark,) and gave people time to process the new options.
Addition of an option that included cost, distance too but cost was something really important to add in my opinion.
Running person replacing the queue numbers.
The software (so far as we know) worked smoothly, things started on time and I didn't notice or hear about any congestion issues.

I would, unfortunately, quibble with the first point... despite OnPeak's multiple assurances that the forms would be processed in order of form entry, apparently phone reps are telling people form speed *did* matter.

https://twitter.com/Sandees38/status/857436341281345537

I'm pretty sure those phone reps are just wrong, but it still begs the question, why is OnPeak incapable of communicating its policies clearly to its own employees? EVERY YEAR.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 27, 2017, 01:06:56 PM
I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who are current badge holders and just didn't bother to type in my member ID in the field simply because it wasn't required. So, I'm not sure how accurate the data will be.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Devorah on April 27, 2017, 01:07:24 PM
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I want to list out the good things this year too, it's not perfect but I do think they have made some improvements.

Explicit and clear communication about how randomization played a role.
Example form was good, worked fine (last year there was that issue with the watermark,) and gave people time to process the new options.
Addition of an option that included cost, distance too but cost was something really important to add in my opinion.
Running person replacing the queue numbers.
The software (so far as we know) worked smoothly, things started on time and I didn't notice or hear about any congestion issues.

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I would, unfortunately, quibble with the first point... despite OnPeak's multiple assurances that the forms would be processed in order of form entry, apparently phone reps are telling people form speed *did* matter.

https://twitter.com/Sandees38/status/857436341281345537

I'm pretty sure those phone reps are just wrong, but it still begs the question, why is OnPeak incapable of communicating its policies clearly to its own employees? EVERY YEAR.

Agreed that kudos on the first point should wait until we see the results and determine (as much as that's possible) if it actually worked the way they said.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 27, 2017, 01:08:45 PM
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I would, unfortunately, quibble with the first point... despite OnPeak's multiple assurances that the forms would be processed in order of form entry, apparently phone reps are telling people form speed *did* matter.

https://twitter.com/Sandees38/status/857436341281345537

I'm pretty sure those phone reps are just wrong, but it still begs the question, why is OnPeak incapable of communicating its policies clearly to its own employees? EVERY YEAR.

Ack. But I was happy with the written stuff.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 27, 2017, 01:39:15 PM
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I would, unfortunately, quibble with the first point... despite OnPeak's multiple assurances that the forms would be processed in order of form entry, apparently phone reps are telling people form speed *did* matter.

https://twitter.com/Sandees38/status/857436341281345537

I'm pretty sure those phone reps are just wrong, but it still begs the question, why is OnPeak incapable of communicating its policies clearly to its own employees? EVERY YEAR.

Great, yet again communication issues with their employees! Gotta love it  :-\ I hope they're just wrong, and maybe the forum should try to get to a manager tbh, but that makes me a bit more nervous because my typing is definitely not speedy right now due to illness and I was the first person in my hotel room to get in.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Godolphin on April 27, 2017, 01:46:57 PM
I don't believe anything Onpeak says, I had autofill and selected fast. I still had a feeling being fast might help, we will see. I submitted in under a minute after getting access to the form.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: hipchick on April 27, 2017, 01:58:17 PM
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I would, unfortunately, quibble with the first point... despite OnPeak's multiple assurances that the forms would be processed in order of form entry, apparently phone reps are telling people form speed *did* matter.

https://twitter.com/Sandees38/status/857436341281345537

I'm pretty sure those phone reps are just wrong, but it still begs the question, why is OnPeak incapable of communicating its policies clearly to its own employees? EVERY YEAR.

If that's true I'm totally screwed because I got in at around :49 secs but took at least five min to fill it out because I didn't want to screw up given they told us speed didn't matter it was when you were granted access that did 😕
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: gobbieboom on April 27, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
It flies in the face of literally everything both onPeak and SDCC have been saying about this year's sale, so I'm chalking it up to phone reps not being informed.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 27, 2017, 02:06:36 PM
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It flies in the face of literally everything both onPeak and SDCC have been saying about this year's sale, so I'm chalking it up to phone reps not being informed.

Agreed. Also I believe that the SDCC Unofficial Blog reconfirmed with OnPeak that it was form entry time that counted after this happened.

I really don't think it's an issue. I do think OnPeak's continuing and inexplicable inability to communicate with their own employees is an issue, though.
Title: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: MickeyJack on April 27, 2017, 02:07:24 PM
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If that's true I'm totally screwed because I got in at around :49 secs but took at least five min to fill it out because I didn't want to screw up given they told us speed didn't matter it was when you were granted access that did
I'm with you on this. I heard about how many browsers people were using, and I made a last second decision to use my phone too. As luck would have it, my phone got in in the first minute, but filling in the form on a phone   with chubby fingers and not having disabled alerts first was hell on wheels. Every FOCC post and Fb Messenger alert interrupted me. It took me just shy of ten minutes to fill out the form. I pray they are true to their written word that entry into the form time stamp is the only criteria!


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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 27, 2017, 02:15:47 PM
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If that's true I'm totally screwed because I got in at around :49 secs but took at least five min to fill it out because I didn't want to screw up given they told us speed didn't matter it was when you were granted access that did 😕

I really think the reps are getting it wrong - I'm sure you're fine! CCI has it written down everywhere that the only time that mattered was when you were given entry to the form - so if that wasn't the case, they'd have a lot of explaining to do.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
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Requesting the member ID seems like a data mining expedition to me. By adding this data point to the registration form, they should be able to get some decent data on what percentage of rooms go to members and from there what percentage of members are awarded downtown vs shuttle route vs wholly shut out of  rooms.  Depending on the data exchange between CCI and on peak, they may also be able to drill down and find the percentages of attendees receiving rooms etc.  This could help CCI evaluate and address the nagging concern that a disproportionate number of downtown rooms are awarded to non-attendees. Now - will they actually do that or will that data go in the round file - who knows.

They should have made it a required field then.  I didn't enter mine.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 27, 2017, 02:50:08 PM
If you are keeping on eye on 3rd party sales, then the Quality Inn San Diego Downtown North (1.5 miles from the convention center) has rooms on Booking.com

edit: Nevermind, sold out fast.

I stayed there last year and it was okay. Walked to and from the con a few times too (it is a bit uphill on the way back)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: TheNeck on April 27, 2017, 03:05:16 PM
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If you are keeping on eye on 3rd party sales, then the Quality Inn San Diego Downtown North (1.5 miles from the convention center) has rooms on Booking.com

edit: Nevermind, sold out fast.

I stayed there last year and it was okay. Walked to and from the con a few times too (it is a bit uphill on the way back)
how much was it a night?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 27, 2017, 03:08:13 PM
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how much was it a night?

$320 USD a night
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: debster on April 27, 2017, 03:36:36 PM
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I really think the reps are getting it wrong - I'm sure you're fine! CCI has it written down everywhere that the only time that mattered was when you were given entry to the form - so if that wasn't the case, they'd have a lot of explaining to do.

I took a screenshot of my Form Successfully Submitted, and the first paragraph says, "Your Comic-con 2017 hotel reservation request has been received and will be processed shortly. As a reminder, requests are processed based on the order in which you were granted access to the form."

So On Peak went out of their way to put it on the confirmation page, so we just have to trust that this is the way the forms will be processed (hopefully they are consistent).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2017, 03:43:02 PM
It's funny that as I come here for the latest hotel discussion, an ad for the Pendry is showing at the top of the page.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: EscoBlades on April 27, 2017, 03:55:32 PM
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It's funny that as I come here for the latest hotel discussion, an ad for the Pendry is showing at the top of the page.

If there was any doubt as to the effectiveness of targeted ads, haha
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: DRWHO42 on April 27, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
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I took a screenshot of my Form Successfully Submitted, and the first paragraph says, "Your Comic-con 2017 hotel reservation request has been received and will be processed shortly. As a reminder, requests are processed based on the order in which you were granted access to the form."

So On Peak went out of their way to put it on the confirmation page, so we just have to trust that this is the way the forms will be processed (hopefully they are consistent).
Thank you for posting this.

I think we should all take a deep breath and relax until Monday. Yes there is anxiety (raising hand) because we are a passionate group of planners but we need to see the fruits of our work first to decide on the outcome.

Let's see what happens.

Fingers crossed for all of us.

Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: chaosdreamer on April 27, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
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Thank you for posting this.

I think we should all take a deep breath and relax until Monday. Yes there is anxiety (raising hand) because we are a passionate group of planners but we need to see the fruits of our work first to decide on the outcome.

Let's see what happens.

Fingers crossed for all of us.

Yes, deep breaths everyone!  We've still got to make it through the weekend before the first batch of hotel results!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 27, 2017, 04:55:06 PM
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My husband and I both did as well. Figured it couldn't hurt, and if there was any infinitesimal chance they were giving any priority to people with Member IDs we wanted it. :P

This was my thought as well! Can't hurt!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LB42 on April 27, 2017, 05:00:14 PM
Relaxing is far easier if you have cancellable/refundable downtown hotel room as a backup, especially after getting shut out in last years lottery.  This year  I found myself looking for a storage facility in the Gaslamp and wondering how much worse can it be than sleeping in the Hall H line.  Turns out there is one .4 from the convention center - LOL. 
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: spritegirl24_7 on April 27, 2017, 05:09:05 PM
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I took a screenshot of my Form Successfully Submitted, and the first paragraph says, "Your Comic-con 2017 hotel reservation request has been received and will be processed shortly. As a reminder, requests are processed based on the order in which you were granted access to the form."

So On Peak went out of their way to put it on the confirmation page, so we just have to trust that this is the way the forms will be processed (hopefully they are consistent).

I took this screenshot too! So glad that they put about processing in order of when you accessed the form on there. It made me relax since my phone was the one that got in first and it took me longer to type in there.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: LB42 on April 27, 2017, 05:53:11 PM
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They should have made it a required field then.  I didn't enter mine.
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Agreed that they should have made Member ID a required field, but then what would those with no ID put in?   By leaving it voluntary - they get some data, but its sloppy.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: catvonawesome on April 27, 2017, 05:57:52 PM
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Yes there is anxiety (raising hand) because we are a passionate group of planners but we need to see the fruits of our work first to decide on the outcome.

hahah seriously. For the "Type A's" in the bunch, the wait can be excruciating. I'm so glad I have a big work thing at Jazz Fest this weekend to keep me super preoccupied! And I'm off on Monday so I'll just walk the anxiety off on my treadmill until the emails start going out.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: NeedaRoomPlease on April 27, 2017, 06:17:25 PM
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I want to list out the good things this year too, it's not perfect but I do think they have made some improvements.

Explicit and clear communication about how randomization played a role.


That's a good thing? You know that translates to: "We can do whatever we want to dole out rooms, and will use that line to explain away when we get/got caught lying the previous years"....

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why is OnPeak incapable of communicating its policies clearly to its own employees? EVERY YEAR.

So they can LIE EVERY YEAR and be dishonest about not following the rules they set forth on us. It's BS plain and simple.

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Agreed. Also I believe that the SDCC Unofficial Blog reconfirmed with OnPeak that it was form entry time that counted after this happened.

I wouldn't listen to ANYTHING SDCC UB says. After the fiasco of them believing they could cut lines, https://crazy4comiccon.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/why-i-quit-the-san-diego-comic-con-unofficial-blog-last-year/ , I lost all respect for them. Their kissing SDCC, and OnPeaks, butts is pathetic. i am sure they get the closest hotels each year and have no problems gutting anything they want with their brown noses...I actually caught them deleting comments from people on their blogs that call them out on their BS.

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Agreed. Also I believe that the SDCC Unofficial Blog reconfirmed with OnPeak that it was form entry time that counted after this happened.

I wouldn't listen to ANYTHING SDCC UB says. After the fiasco of them believing they could cut lines, https://crazy4comiccon.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/why-i-quit-the-san-diego-comic-con-unofficial-blog-last-year/ , I lost all respect for them. Their kissing SDCC, and OnPeaks, butts is pathetic. i am sure they get the closest hotels each year and have no problems gutting anything they want with their brown noses...I actually caught them deleting comments from people on their blogs that call them out on their BS.

I edited these 3 posts into one as I inadvertently was not aware of one of the rules here for posting 3 times in a row. I apologize for that. However, my posting a link backing up one of my comments in no way is a baseless accusation. Neither were my comments about TSDCCUB. I have screen grabs of some of their nonsense. Anyway, I'm done as I see anyone that mentions facts, good or bad, is attacked. Blaming me for OnPeaks, SDCC, (which others have mentioned as well), and TSDCCUB words/actions is nonsense no matter how you slice it. Am I annoyed about the stuff that goes on every darn year, of course I am. So are thousands of others.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: mark on April 27, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
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That's a good thing? You know that translates to: "We can do whatever we want to dole out rooms, and will use that line to explain away when we get/got caught lying the previous years"....

My point was more limited. In the sale descriptions for 2016, there was conflicting information which was confusing. This year, in the written descriptions at least, they were simple and consistent, and repeatedly said that the form access time would be the only factor that determined the order in which submissions were processed. So yes, I would say there was an improvement in the descriptions written by CCI.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: accelerate on April 27, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
Forgive me if this has been covered:

Has OnPeak clearly stated how they detect duplicate entries? Is it based on email address used? Phone number? Mailing address? Same people listed for the rooms?

This year, just to avoid any possibility of being flagged, my sis and I used different mailing addresses and different names (she used my middle name, I used hers), as well as obviously different emails & phone numbers. I don't know if I was just being paranoid or not.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jontargaryen on April 27, 2017, 07:09:10 PM
Three more sleeps until 5/1! Feel like a kid waiting for Christmas  ::)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: alyssa on April 27, 2017, 07:10:31 PM
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<snipped all the angry stuff>

WoW [member=1431]NeedaRoomPlease[/member]  why are you angry with folks on the forum? blasting [member=4270]mark[/member] for telling you what he's planing on doing. THEN make unfounded accusations against OnPeak saying they deliberate have clueless CS people so they can lie to you.  All of that is followed up with bringing up behavior from 3 years ago when the unofficial blog was under entirely different management?  I may not agree with every thing the current editor in chief, Kerry aka [member=550]lawboysam[/member] has to say but she get the information out to folks - we would not know half the stuff we do thanks to Kerry.

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Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: Iris on April 27, 2017, 07:13:40 PM
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Three more sleeps until 5/1! Feel like a kid waiting for Christmas  ::)

And at least I have a few distractions for the next three days, otherwise I'd being even more insane. Just hoping I don't need to wait until 5/8 to hear back @[email protected]
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: jristen on April 27, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
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Forgive me if this has been covered:

Has OnPeak clearly stated how they detect duplicate entries? Is it based on email address used? Phone number? Mailing address? Same people listed for the rooms?

This year, just to avoid any possibility of being flagged, my sis and I used different mailing addresses and different names (she used my middle name, I used hers), as well as obviously different emails & phone numbers. I don't know if I was just being paranoid or not.

From the unofficial blog:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w0cepr2D6jg/WQKlblfNq9I/AAAAAAAABpY/wzUVY--gPwcERzSHiGc4NQJLiRTIzlS6wCK8B/s512/2017-04-27.png)
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lawboysam on April 27, 2017, 07:20:05 PM
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From the unofficial blog:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w0cepr2D6jg/WQKlblfNq9I/AAAAAAAABpY/wzUVY--gPwcERzSHiGc4NQJLiRTIzlS6wCK8B/s512/2017-04-27.png)

I asked the same question about this sale, and they finally answered me after the sale (again, higher up, not a phone rep) - they said unique identifier and e-mail again, but didn't mention phone #. I didn't think it was interesting enough to follow up on, but the more you know?
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lawboysam on April 27, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
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Agreed. Also I believe that the SDCC Unofficial Blog reconfirmed with OnPeak that it was form entry time that counted after this happened.

I really don't think it's an issue. I do think OnPeak's continuing and inexplicable inability to communicate with their own employees is an issue, though.

I confirmed with onPeak last year that was how it was being done, but this year, it said it in black and white on CCI's site (highlight mine):
(https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsdccblog.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2FScreen-Shot-2017-04-27-at-9.26.18-PM.png&hash=1ae6fc421dfd4f52cbcaa3074e2511ff52297ee6)

The phone reps are given very, very little info and try to do the best they can while answering hundreds of phone
 calls from angry, cranky people who want answers they don't have - which absolutely isn't their fault, it's a management problem that's clearly been around for years with both TP and onPeak. Take everything the phone reps tell you with a grain of salt, unfortunately.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: debster on April 27, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
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And at least I have a few distractions for the next three days, otherwise I'd being even more insane. Just hoping I don't need to wait until 5/8 to hear back @[email protected]

With my submission time of 9:04 or so, I'm thinking I have a long wait ahead of me...I'm hoping I'll get at least something on May 8th, but I'm pretty sure I won't hear anything on May 1st. I have a fairly busy week ahead (including GOTG on Thursday!), so hopefully it'll go by fairly quickly. Trying hard not to think about it too much, but it's the elephant in the room so I've just had to accept that I'm going to be thinking about the hotel assignment a lot like I'm sure we all are.
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: accelerate on April 27, 2017, 07:29:57 PM
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I asked the same question about this sale, and they finally answered me after the sale (again, higher up, not a phone rep) - they said unique identifier and e-mail again, but didn't mention phone #. I didn't think it was interesting enough to follow up on, but the more you know?

Thanks for the info! Yeah, I assume QueueID is somehow generated from the link in your email (it may only say "http://cci.onpeak.info", but if you hover over it, you can see it has more URL parameters, including some unique ID info which I assume somehow maps to a QueueID). It's because of this that I didn't dare risk submitting multiple forms from the same link (or even have multiple browsers up with the same link).
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 23rd
Post by: lawboysam on April 27, 2017, 07:34:05 PM
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Thanks for the info! Yeah, I assume QueueID is somehow generated from the link in your email (it may only say "http://cci.onpeak.info", but if you hover over it, you can see it has more URL parameters, including some unique ID info which I assume somehow maps to a QueueID). It's because of this that I didn't dare risk submitting multiple forms from the same link (or even have multiple browsers up with the same link).

I actually don't think that has anything to do with the QueueID. I think - and this is mostly just speculation - that the links when you hover over them are unique due basically to how whatever they're using to send mass e-mails codes links (I'm not technical enough to use the right verbiage). I know last year there was a lot of question about whether some other e-mail they sent out was "fraudulent"/phishing because when you hovered your mouse over it, the link was different similar to this one, and we had to get it confirmed that CCI had actually sent it.

The QueueID is basically generated in each browser - but you could absolutely open up that link in multiple browsers and have different QueueIDs.

Anyway, that's my take. I may be totally wrong!
Title: Re: SDCC 2017 Hotel Discussion, July 20th to July 2