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Offline perc2100

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Thor: Love & Thunder
« on: July 11, 2022, 10:23:29 AM »
So what'd we think of the latest MCU film; I'm kinda surprised there wasn't other chatter about this yet!  After being at Disneyland all last week, I finally got a chance to see THOR: LOVE & THUNDER Sunday evening: later than I typically see a Marvel film (though being a Disneyland I was able to not be on social media too much at least).  A lot to unpack, so I'll try to keep it in easy-to-gloss over bullet points

* I really like Taika Waititi and we are lucky to see him play in the sandbox of Marvel Studios.  This time around he turns his focus back to Thor's relationship w/Jane, though he still has some very distinct fingerprints throughout.  He's the first director that's made Thor really pop for me on the big screen w/RAGNAROK, and he continues that streak hear showcasing not only Chris Hemsworth's impeccable comic timing, but also his vulnerable side.
* welcome back to the MCU, Natalie Portman!  She was vocal about not caring to return to the character after DARK WORLD, and she returns here adding some depth to Jane: no longer an intelligent 'damsel in distress' type, or even just a book-smart scientist, she's not a literally strong female superhero/warrior/pseudo-god!  The film kind of glosses over the specifics of how exactly she becomes Mighty Thor (it explains enough, IMO), but she's awesome as an action hero: a role she doesn't often play.  She has her funny & charming moments as well, and I'll be curious to see if she returns as Mighty Thor at any point
* Matt Damon as an actor playing Loki is as close as we get to Loki's triumphant return to the big screen, but I'll savor every damn minute of he and his Asgardian acting troop's screentime! I also appreciate how Waititi clearly thinks playing pretend and using our imaginations is important, as he's featured this type of theme in many of his films.
* I kinda would LOVE an entire movie/series of Russell Crowe's hilarious Greek accent while playing Zeus.  He's clearly having a blast in this role, and likewise so am I watching him
* I did legit prep my wife for Jane's story arc based on the comics, and that sort of helped her. 
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* Christian Bale is delightfully wicked and unhinged in this film, though for good reason: as a dad, I could relate to his reasoning, but I don't think the trailers have really hinted at his delightful portrayal of Gorr
* I also really dug Waititi's angle of "gods are narcissistic, selfish bores who don't care about their worshipers" played throughout - not only a nice contrast to Thor, generally, but (slightly) fleshes out Odin's character a bit.  I'm still not sure where Thor, Odin, and Loki sit in the pantheon of gods in the MCU, but I dug Marvel digging into that side of their universe a bit and look forward to seeing how that develops in the future
* sidebar: WTF are other major religions doing in the MCU?!  Like, Thor's existence alone seems like an existential crises for, say, Catholics, but this film confirms other beings are living on earth at New Asgard and all sorts of mayhem seems to happen there: surely talk of "Thor & some female Thor fought something rumored to be a 'god killer'" would maybe break a lot of religions in the MCU?
* I love that Love & Thunder are literal nicknames & I absolutely can't stop thinking about what that last scene implies for the future of Thor
* I personally liked RAGNAROK a bit more: it's more of a fun, good-time Thor movie than LOVE & THUNDER (for obvious reasons given story arcs).  I'd say LOVE & THUNDER is easily my 2nd favorite Thor film by quite a lot, though.
* I wish Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie had more to do.  She's such an awesome character that it bums me out that she wasn't featured more.  Here's hoping she will be sometime sooner than later
* non-spoiler spoiler: Everyone welcome AFC Richmond's Roy Kent into the MCU! "Here's here, here's there, he's every fu$&in wear ROY KENT!
* "Thor will Return" was nice to see - that feels a bit of a TBD type of thing, but that credit makes me feel like Hemsworth (or Portman?!) will absolutely likely return!

Overall this was a fun movie: I'm enjoying Marvel delving into more one-off, personal stories currently rather than just throwing down building blocks for some big 'event' teamup.  It feels clear Marvel Studios is setting up Secret Wars, and I look forward to seeing what Feigi announces for their future plans at SDCC in a week and a half.  Remember, it was a huge Hall H-esque announcement that officially confirmed that MCU was headed towards Infinity Wars territory, so it feels very plausible we may get our first official news on the bigger plans Marvel Studios has in the works at Comic-Con.  BUT, stuff like Shang Chi; Eternals, Love & Thunder; and to a less extent NO WAY HOME & MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS have been nice smaller, personal stories that don't necessarily feel like set-ups to future works.  LOVE & THUNDER again shows that Hemsworth is a better actor than Hollywood seems to think he is, while Portman as Mighty Thor is a great treat for us to see!

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2022, 02:59:50 PM »
Here's my one sentence movie review which is reflective of my personal opinion and nothing more...

Thor Love and Thunder was... not a good movie at all and almost made me mad at how little meaning it added to Thor, the MCU, or superhero movies in general.

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2022, 03:06:05 PM »
I loved it a lot. Ragnarok was just a bit *too* comedic for me, so I felt this one had a better balance. And I knew about the Jane storyline from the comics and I thought they did it really well.

Overall I thought the movie felt a little rushed - I would have loved a few more Jane/Valkyrie moments or just more Valkyrie at all - but I thought the villain was great, the characters were great, and I loved it.

I did actually find Russell Crowe's accent baffling though - if you're the god of gods it seems like you should be understood perfectly no matter how you speak. Having him sound like he was from the Old Country is a weird weird choice.

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2022, 04:00:21 PM »
I loved it, and my husband didn't fall asleep.  Success!  I thought the goat humor was fantastic, though I know others thought it was a bit much.  A wonderful popcorn movie!

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2022, 07:59:09 AM »
Didn't like it. I liked "Ragnarok", but I thought it was a little too jokey. This verges on slapstick. Ever since "Deadpool" and "Guardians of the Galaxy" Marvel movies have been veering into more comedy/ satire. While it works for Deadpool and the Guardians it's making the other movies silly. I'm a Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby "Thor" fan so I see him as a mythic hero and not a wiseass slacker. Jane Fosters death should have been more tragic and important. Marvel needs to take the characters more seriously or they will become mere parodies.

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2022, 08:46:06 AM »
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I did actually find Russell Crowe's accent baffling though - if you're the god of gods it seems like you should be understood perfectly no matter how you speak. Having him sound like he was from the Old Country is a weird weird choice.
Yeah when he first spoke, I was like "WTF?!" and then realized after a few lines "oooooh: 'Greek' accent, right!"  For me, I think that weird decision made me kinda love it (and helped sell the theme of gods being pseudo-schlubs/kinda dopey in their own right)

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2022, 08:52:15 AM »
To the folks who didn't like this film, I'm curious:
did you really really like THOR and THOR: THE DARK WORLD?  Meaning, did you prefer the "Shakespearean" approach of the original? 
If so, I _TOTALLY_ get how one wouldn't like this film.  Waititi's humor is my jam, and bringing that 'voice' to Thor (a character that is, IMO, inherently cheesy and silly on its own in the comics with the speech patterns and viking mythos): I think he bridges the gap between "this is a badass god of thunder, but also quite a bit inherently silly so we're going to have fun with it all."  It seems to me that Waiti respects the character but realizes the silliness and plays around with it all.  If someone thinks this character is 100% badass mythological god, and doesn't think any of it is silly, I can totally get the disappointment (kind of like how I've mostly felt about the 60's Batman series, or why the Joel Schumacher Batman sequels are reviled by fans - because they don't think those films took the character serious enough).

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2022, 09:19:51 AM »
I don't think he respects the characters at all. I think he just wanted to make his kind of movie and to hell with the fans. "Jo Jo Rabbit" was a brilliant film, but a Marvel movie is something else. Sam Raimi was able to put elements of his style in the Dr. Strange movie without having it overpower the movie. Between the screaming goats, Russell Crowes accent and the awkward dialogue between Thor and Jane this movie was an embarrassment.

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2022, 04:22:21 PM »
Hey all,
Is this worth seeing in a big imax type comfy theatre?

yeah, i'm wicked behind in my movies
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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2022, 06:20:42 PM »
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Hey all,
Is this worth seeing in a big imax type comfy theatre?

yeah, i'm wicked behind in my movies
Tomorrow all movies are $3 so I would say absolutely: a few hours of primo AC w/Thor & Jane & King Valkyrie hit the spot!

Otherwise, it'll be on Disney+ next week

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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2022, 07:05:41 PM »
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Tomorrow all movies are $3 so I would say absolutely: a few hours of primo AC w/Thor & Jane & King Valkyrie hit the spot!

Otherwise, it'll be on Disney+ next week
it's $5 next thrusday in the Digital theatre ;)
i've got a major test on Sunday morning
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Re: Thor: Love & Thunder
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2022, 07:01:16 AM »
Imax will make the visuals better. However, it won't make this crapfest a better movie.