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Title: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: RighteousRita on April 17, 2020, 10:21:12 AM
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Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 17, 2020, 10:22:47 AM
and the text:


Comic-Con Announces Plans in Light of the Covid-19 Pandemic
The Current Situation Requires Exceptional Measures

For the first time in its 50-year history San Diego Comic Convention (SDCC), the organizers behind the annual pop culture celebration, announced today with deep regret that there will be no Comic-Con in 2020. The event will instead return to the San Diego Convention Center from July 22-25, 2021.

Recognizing that countless attendees save and plan for its conventions each year, and how many exhibitors and stakeholders rely upon its events for a major portion of their livelihood, they had hoped to delay this decision in anticipation that COVID-19 concerns might lessen by summer. Continuous monitoring of health advisories and recent statements by the Governor of California have made it clear that it would not be safe to move forward with plans for this year.

Similarly, WonderCon Anaheim, which was to have been held April 10-12, 2020 will return to the Anaheim Convention Center from March 26-28, 2021.

In addition to their conventions, Comic-Con has been planning a major renovation of Balboa Park’s Federal Building to be completed for the grand opening of the Comic-Con Museum in the summer of 2021. However, the COVID-19 situation has had an effect on those efforts as well. As such, they will be rephasing the Museum’s initially planned major renovations, but will not scale back the experience to be offered to visitors upon the Museum’s grand opening. They anticipate releasing building plans illustrating the Museum’s transformation and sharing more information about those efforts in the coming months.

SDCC also announced that individuals who purchased badges for Comic-Con 2020 will have the option to request a refund or transfer their badges to Comic-Con 2021. All 2020 badge holders will receive an email within the next week with instructions on how to request a refund. Exhibitors for Comic-Con 2020 will also have the option to request a refund or transfer their payments to Comic-Con 2021 and will also receive an email within the next week with instructions on how to process their request.

In the next few days onPeak, Comic-Con’s official hotel affiliate, will be canceling all hotel reservations and refunding all deposits made through them. There is no need for anyone who booked through onPeak to take any action, including trying to cancel their reservations online or contacting the company via phone as the process will be handled automatically. Those who booked rooms through onPeak will be notified when refunds have been completed.

“Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures and while we are saddened to take this action, we know it is the right decision,” said David Glanzer, spokesperson for the organization. “We eagerly look forward to the time when we can all meet again and share in the community we all love and enjoy.”

 
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: alyssa on April 17, 2020, 10:25:27 AM
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individuals who purchased badges for Comic-Con 2020 will have the option to request a refund or transfer their badges to Comic-Con 2021. All 2020 badge holders will receive an email within the next week with instructions on how to request a refund. Exhibitors for Comic-Con 2020 will also have the option to request a refund or transfer their payments to Comic-Con 2021 and will also receive an email within the next week with instructions on how to process their request.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: NCDS on April 17, 2020, 10:30:17 AM
We get to transfer!!!!!  Woohoo positive for the day!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: rushfanyyz on April 17, 2020, 10:31:18 AM
The option to transfer makes the sad news not as sad, that's for sure!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: sessionka on April 17, 2020, 10:31:24 AM
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While I'm very sad to hear this, I was preparing myself emotionally for this announcement.

I'll just be requesting a transfer.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: Michaelnaut on April 17, 2020, 10:36:47 AM
I cancelled my backup hotel.  Now to see how SW handles flight cancellations...
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: nootheroptions on April 17, 2020, 10:37:40 AM
I'll request a transfer.  As much as I hate giving loans out this far out; If even 20% of the population retains their tickets the pool will be MUCH smaller for available tix.  On top of that; how are they handling returning reg? No return just open? I would guess at least.  It would also be neat if they gave transfers a little badge flair like a "2020 Attendee" ribbon. 
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 17, 2020, 10:49:32 AM
I agree, having my badge transferred to 2021 is the only bright spot here, but it is still a good bright spot.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: chachime45 on April 17, 2020, 10:52:20 AM
Legitimately thrilled about the transfer. Bummed overall but really looking forward to making it out there again.

And now the wait begins again ...
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: accelerate on April 17, 2020, 10:56:09 AM
I know they probably haven't made the decision yet, but I wonder if there will actually be a badge sale for next year. Who's to say the majority of people won't opt for transfers, and there might not be enough badges for a general sale. Most definitely there will not be two sales.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 17, 2020, 10:58:54 AM
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I cancelled my backup hotel.  Now to see how SW handles flight cancellations...

I just cancelled mine and got travel funds.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: frgx on April 17, 2020, 10:59:21 AM
We're always planning for the next one anyway, right?  ;)
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: nootheroptions on April 17, 2020, 11:00:41 AM
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I know they probably haven't made the decision yet, but I wonder if there will actually be a badge sale for next year. Who's to say the majority of people won't opt for transfers, and there might not be enough badges for a general sale. Most definitely there will not be two sales.

My group chat is 50/50.  Some people just can't float hundreds of dollars for something like this right now.  I can; and will as I still have my job but we have millions unemployed.  I'm sure they'd like some extra cash.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: alyssa on April 17, 2020, 11:01:37 AM
i added a poll to this thread.

tbh, i have not heard of **anyone** who wanted a refund. Even folks in my classes who aren't con fanatics are holding their badges
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: EscoBlades on April 17, 2020, 11:03:55 AM
Just cancelled my backups

:(
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: DaveG on April 17, 2020, 11:04:31 AM
Agree, transfer to 2021 is a very good option.  Although, this was the first year of my 3 year pro eligibility, I'm kind of hoping they don't count this year.  Either way, i'm just very happy to (hopefully) be going next year.

And yes, like many, I'll have to see what SW is doing about cancelling flights.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: darqamin on April 17, 2020, 11:05:07 AM
Not unexpected, though I was hoping they might still have some online panels or other online events as an alternative (and maybe they will announce such closer to the date?). Or maybe it's not economically feasible.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: RighteousRita on April 17, 2020, 11:07:44 AM
just cancelled my backup hotels. Will check back later in the year to see if I can get it again at a same or better rate.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: EscoBlades on April 17, 2020, 11:08:07 AM
Currently looking at 3rd party sites to reserve a room for 2021, just in case.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: alyssa on April 17, 2020, 11:12:26 AM
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Currently looking at 3rd party sites to reserve a room for 2021, just in case.
LOL
best laugh of the day



Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: DaveG on April 17, 2020, 11:14:54 AM
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LOL
best laugh of the day

Funny, but you know people have to jump on this now before any loopholes are closed.   :)
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: NCDS on April 17, 2020, 11:16:16 AM
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I cancelled my backup hotel.  Now to see how SW handles flight cancellations...

They sent an email yesterday, they are going to allow people to transfer travel funds into points.   Though it's going to take them a bit to get the technology working.

Still, I am going to have $1,000 in travel funds for 5 canceled trips.  Points are a good option.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: alyssa on April 17, 2020, 11:19:29 AM
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They sent an email yesterday, they are going to allow people to transfer travel funds into points.   Though it's going to take them a bit to get the technology working.

Still, I am going to have $1,000 in travel funds for 5 canceled trips.  Points are a good option.
as long as there isn't an expiration date on them
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: NCDS on April 17, 2020, 11:20:17 AM
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as long as there isn't an expiration date on them

Their points don't expire.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: EscoBlades on April 17, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
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LOL
best laugh of the day

You're welcome  ;D

I had a look on 3, and they are all mostly listing apartments and condos (which will certainly change in price between now and then once the owners realize it is SDCC week)
But still, if folks want to take advantage of no prepayment and free cancellation for peace of mind, there are a few listings out there to be had.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Sakura17 on April 17, 2020, 11:28:24 AM
So happy that we can tranfer to next year. No stress with lottery for that madness. Now to make sure I dont get charged with a hotel stay. Booked via expedia and it says refundable till July 18, but hilton app is showing non refundable.

For anyone requesting a refund and was in a buying grp might want to get in contact with who brought badges. If some one wants the refund will that affect everyone else's order? Or make sure they communicate to get the refund since it will probably go to the original buyer.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 17, 2020, 11:30:50 AM
As sad as I am about this, this is a MAJOR financial hit for...

San Diego
Hotels
Employees of the Hotels and Restaurants and retailers
Con Vendors

This will continue to ripple out
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 17, 2020, 11:35:57 AM
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i added a poll to this thread.

tbh, i have not heard of **anyone** who wanted a refund. Even folks in my classes who aren't con fanatics are holding their badges

Two of my friends are, but they only had badges for 1 day.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: alyssa on April 17, 2020, 11:42:45 AM
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As sad as I am about this, this is a MAJOR financial hit for...

San Diego
Hotels
Employees of the Hotels and Restaurants and retailers
Con Vendors

This will continue to ripple out
especially with Pride cancelling the weekend before too...
we got 'budget talk' from the Mayor a day or 3 ago.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 17, 2020, 11:44:36 AM
I'm hoping we'll get automatic transfer if we don't request the refund.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: AlaskaRainbow on April 17, 2020, 11:50:19 AM
I feel relieved & sad about SDCC being cancelled this year as I’m guessing most of us do but I appreciate them rolling over the badges. Not sure about anything these days but the money was already spent on the badges and next year will be a little tougher to get to but I’m determined it’s worth it.

Lost my job of 12 years on Wed. - how fitting to be laid off from a job in Accounting on the traditional tax day, huh? 
I’ll definitely miss some of the people I worked with but I’m going to miss having insurance most of all!!

Now that I’m “Involuntarily Retired” I’ll have more time to work on next year’s SDCC binder.

Thank you to everyone on this Forum for all the support, information and great discussions.  :)
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: chocolateshake on April 17, 2020, 11:52:14 AM
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especially with Pride cancelling the weekend before too...
we got 'budget talk' from the Mayor a day or 3 ago.

It's just not comic-con, it's all the conventions that have cancelled and all the tourism we are losing.  Due to covid, the city is projecting it's largest budget deficit ever.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 17, 2020, 11:53:54 AM
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I'm hoping we'll get automatic transfer if we don't request the refund.

They may never tell us, but when the refund/transfer process is over,  I'd love to know how many people apply for refunds.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: alyssa on April 17, 2020, 12:00:16 PM
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They may never tell us, but when the refund/transfer process is over,  I'd love to know how many people apply for refunds.
Hence the poll

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Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: accelerate on April 17, 2020, 12:00:56 PM
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They may never tell us, but when the refund/transfer process is over,  I'd love to know how many people apply for refunds.

They may never tell us, but we can probably extrapolate from any possible 2021 badge sale. If badges are sold at the same rate, and we see it sell out in, say 1/4 of the time. then we can make a rough guess that about 1/8th of badges were refunded. There's a lot of inherent error and guessing in this method, hence "rough".

EDIT: Also, I don't think you can use the results of this poll. We are among the most dedicated of con-goers. I don't think we represent the majority of people who go to SDCC. Just look at how many of us were willing to go to SDCC despite a pandemic. I liken it to those who casually play Call of Duty, and those who are on the forums for the game. Any poll taken by that forum would not represent the vast majority of players.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: ALF on April 17, 2020, 12:03:41 PM
Have we  ever considered that even Comic con 2021 can also be canceled but I guess we should not think that far....
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on April 17, 2020, 12:05:01 PM
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Have we  ever considered that even Comic con 2021 can also be canceled but I guess we should not think that far....

one day at a time...
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: chocolateshake on April 17, 2020, 12:09:10 PM
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Lost my job of 12 years on Wed. - how fitting to be laid off from a job in Accounting on the traditional tax day, huh? 
I’ll definitely miss some of the people I worked with but I’m going to miss having insurance most of all!!

Sorry about your job loss.  Losing a job is an event that allows you to sign up for Obamacare outside of the enrollment period.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: nootheroptions on April 17, 2020, 12:11:44 PM
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Currently looking at 3rd party sites to reserve a room for 2021, just in case.

I booked one; they canceled immediately lol. 
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: chocolateshake on April 17, 2020, 12:12:39 PM
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Have we  ever considered that even Comic con 2021 can also be canceled but I guess we should not think that far....

That's already been discussed in the could it be cancelled thread.  Maybe the title of that thread should be changed to 2021 from 2020.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 17, 2020, 12:20:29 PM
I'm sure that there are some people who will want a refund, but I suspect they are in the minority. Everyone knows how difficult it is to get badges.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Bionic 7 on April 17, 2020, 12:27:51 PM
I have to say I am both a bit disappointed as SDCC is a highlight of my year,  but also relieved that I can move on from wondering about SDCC 2020.   So happy that they will allow us to transfer out tickets to 2021 (which I plan to do).  Now I just have to work put getting my flight refunded.  Stay safe everyone!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: DaveG on April 17, 2020, 12:43:50 PM
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I feel relieved & sad about SDCC being cancelled this year as I’m guessing most of us do but I appreciate them rolling over the badges. Not sure about anything these days but the money was already spent on the badges and next year will be a little tougher to get to but I’m determined it’s worth it.

Lost my job of 12 years on Wed. - how fitting to be laid off from a job in Accounting on the traditional tax day, huh? 
I’ll definitely miss some of the people I worked with but I’m going to miss having insurance most of all!!

Now that I’m “Involuntarily Retired” I’ll have more time to work on next year’s SDCC binder.

Thank you to everyone on this Forum for all the support, information and great discussions.  :)

As someone who was "involuntarily retired" last October, I definitely feel for you.  Hang in there.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: RighteousRita on April 17, 2020, 12:46:12 PM
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They may never tell us, but when the refund/transfer process is over,  I'd love to know how many people apply for refunds.
They will never tell us that either.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SteveD on April 17, 2020, 01:08:45 PM
As one who now qualifies for the senior rate for next year's con, do you think that CCI would transfer my badge and refund half my money?  ::)
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Darth_Primus on April 17, 2020, 01:15:28 PM
I'll be transferring my badge to 2021.

Considering that there's not a vaccine and a second wave of infection is very probable, I'm kind of glad this year's SDCC is cancelled.   Too risky to have that many people in an enclosed space breathing on each other.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: Dubb on April 17, 2020, 01:17:18 PM
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They sent an email yesterday, they are going to allow people to transfer travel funds into points.   Though it's going to take them a bit to get the technology working.

Still, I am going to have $1,000 in travel funds for 5 canceled trips.  Points are a good option.

Only if your point EXPIRE by September 7th. I doubt that is the case with many people’s SDCC flights. Anyway, we still get travel funds, but nothing extended yet.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 17, 2020, 01:20:49 PM
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I'm hoping we'll get automatic transfer if we don't request the refund.
Guess it's not automatic.  The tweet clarified a bit and added the mention of an online component.

https://twitter.com/Comic_Con/status/1251240731953393664

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Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: debster on April 17, 2020, 01:50:47 PM
Delta has extended their change fee waiver and cancelation policy for flights through September 30th, hope other airlines follow:

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Making travel changes easier

We’re now waiving change fees and providing greater flexibility to travel through September 30, 2022, for customers who:    

have upcoming travel already booked for March through September 30, 2020 as of April 17, 2020   
have existing eCredits or canceled travel from flights in March through September 30, 2020 
Rest assured your eCredits are safe even as we work to process updates 

All applicable eCredits will be automatically extended to September 2022 so there’s no action needed on your part. We are actively working on a solution to display the new expiration dates in all the places you can find your eCredits on delta.com. So even if your eCredit for canceled travel has not yet been processed or extended, or is temporarily displaying incorrectly, there is no need to call. Rest assured your flight value is secure through September 30, 2022 and will be ready to redeem online when you need it.   

Tickets purchased between March 1 and May 31, 2020, can be changed without a change fee for a year from the date you purchased it.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on April 17, 2020, 02:03:31 PM
I opt to transfer, I don’t care to go through the badge registration process again.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: NCDS on April 17, 2020, 02:20:42 PM
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Only if your point EXPIRE by September 7th. I doubt that is the case with many people’s SDCC flights. Anyway, we still get travel funds, but nothing extended yet.


I do have some but the rest of the travel funds extend to Sep 7, 2022 so either way, I am sitting pretty.  That is two SDCC's!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Applescruff on April 17, 2020, 02:30:54 PM
While I tried to prepared myself emotionally for this eventuality, I am nonetheless sad at the finality.  I enjoyed reading everyone's commentary during the weeks leading up to the cancellation and look forward to thoughts on future planning.  I think it's time to put a nice bottle of wine to chill......
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: tsnyder on April 17, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
Wonder if there will even be enough people that refund to have an actual badge sale next year?
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Dune930 on April 17, 2020, 04:34:47 PM
The transfer option lessens the sting of this year's cancellation. There's no way I'm looking forward to the stress of buying a badge for 2021. I'll hold tight with my current 3-day badge purchase.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled until 2021
Post by: Dune930 on April 17, 2020, 04:57:15 PM
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I booked one; they canceled immediately lol.

Hotel rates are going to be higher next year for SDCC to make up for this year's cancellation. The hotels ain't playing around, they know the new date and nothing is available for booking yet.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Miterin on April 17, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
So I was thinking about this. First of all I am so thankful that SDCC is letting us roll over our badges!!! Now the govenor of Ca I believe has been stating that Large group events may not be possible until fall of 2021 or even into 2022. Who even know that far but lets hope not, that being said if SDCC happens  next year do you think that there will even be another badge sale? I think that if they are wanting to keep people more separated even in a year that they will not resell those badges and just have less people in attendance? I really don't think there will be a lot of badges to even be refunded and if they did hold another sale the fight for those few badges are gonna be brutal!! Im so thankful Im rolling mine over lol.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Devorah on April 17, 2020, 06:01:46 PM
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So I was thinking about this. First of all I am so thankful that SDCC is letting us roll over our badges!!! Now the govenor of Ca I believe has been stating that Large group events may not be possible until fall of 2021 or even into 2022. Who even know that far but lets hope not, that being said if SDCC happens  next year do you think that there will even be another badge sale? I think that if they are wanting to keep people more separated even in a year that they will not resell those badges and just have less people in attendance? I really don't think there will be a lot of badges to even be refunded and if they did hold another sale the fight for those few badges are gonna be brutal!! Im so thankful Im rolling mine over lol.
I think they will need to see how many get returned and then make a decision about whether or not to do open reg next year. They have time. I just hope if for any reason 2021 can’t happen they will continue to offer this rollover option.


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Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: friedminded on April 17, 2020, 07:09:08 PM
I get the feeling that a big price increase could be coming in the future. Better to transfer rather than risk paying more or missing out on an open reg.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: CptMyCpt24 on April 17, 2020, 07:28:38 PM
Transfer to 2021 for us.

Happy for Tommy.
Sad for Johnny.


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Post by: accelerate on April 17, 2020, 08:41:22 PM
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It’s somehow more real now that Google has it in the search results.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: chocolateshake on April 17, 2020, 08:48:42 PM
The cancellation was also a multi ticker on CNN.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 17, 2020, 10:18:56 PM
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So I was thinking about this. First of all I am so thankful that SDCC is letting us roll over our badges!!! Now the govenor of Ca I believe has been stating that Large group events may not be possible until fall of 2021 or even into 2022.

The governor needs to take a course in economics.  California will be in a world of hurt economically by the end of this year.  If he thinks they'll be able to survive suspending all events into 2021, let alone 2022, he's living on another planet (IMO)!!!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: puppy on April 18, 2020, 07:18:22 AM
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The governor needs to take a course in economics.  California will be in a world of hurt economically by the end of this year.  If he thinks they'll be able to survive suspending all events into 2021, let alone 2022, he's living on another planet (IMO)!!!

The state of hurt would be worse if this thing spiked again and we have to go on total lockdown again.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SyndE on April 18, 2020, 08:20:29 AM
Rolling over badge for sure. Glad that OnPeak will be refunding my entire Early Bird Hotel cost. Looks like I may take a $150 hit on American Airlines to put my miles back into my account though. Currently waiting for a call back on that.
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Post by: Angology on April 18, 2020, 08:27:40 AM
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The cancellation was also a multi ticker on CNN.
My local news mentioned it, too. Made it even more real. :(

I will be requesting a transfer! When my husband saw the news, he proclaimed "Let it roll!" He's such a goofball.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SyndE on April 18, 2020, 08:34:45 AM
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Rolling over badge for sure. Glad that OnPeak will be refunding my entire Early Bird Hotel cost. Looks like I may take a $150 hit on American Airlines to put my miles back into my account though. Currently waiting for a call back on that.

Hey, good news if you're flying American - no charge to put miles back in account, and I'm even getting the $11 in taxes back.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: hipchick on April 18, 2020, 09:15:19 AM
I’ll be requesting a transfer as will my husband and our friend. Happy that they did the right thing but disappointed that now we have to accept the reality of it actually not happening this year. Gonna be weird, this was going to be 10 in a row.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: RighteousRita on April 18, 2020, 10:31:05 AM
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The governor needs to take a course in economics.  California will be in a world of hurt economically by the end of this year.  If he thinks they'll be able to survive suspending all events into 2021, let alone 2022, he's living on another planet (IMO)!!!
so are you thinking that the health of the people trumps money.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: accelerate on April 18, 2020, 10:49:07 AM
My friends and I will be requesting transfers, but for my friends, they’re kinda screwed. This year they could only make one day, since they have a newborn. So they only got Sunday. They were gonna skip altogether, but they wanted to be able to do Returning Reg next year. But now they will only have Sunday for next year, unless there will be another badge sale and they get really lucky.

Of course, there was no way they could’ve anticipated this scenario or prepared for it. But still, I do feel bad for them.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 18, 2020, 12:27:49 PM
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so are you thinking that the health of the people trumps money.
My statement was in reference to the length of time the Governor thinks he can keep the economy of his state shut down.  A LOT can happen in two years.

All levels of government (Federal, State, City) require revenue.  Government revenue comes from multiple streams.  Income tax, sales tax are two of those streams.  States then turn those streams around to pay for those services we take for granted.  Law Enforcement, Roads, sanitation, etc.  If those streams are cut back, then government starts cutting back on those services.  It's already happening, and it's starting to show.  Towns in my state are cutting worker's hours. 

Income tax and sales tax come from us.  People who work.  If people aren't working, they're not paying income tax.  If people aren't working, they're not purchasing goods and services (Hotels, Restaurants, retailers, etc), which result in sales taxes.

The only way the Governor of California can realistically shut down the economy of his state thru 2022, is if he has a reserve that will cover ALL state expenses for that period of time.  I seriously doubt California, or any state for that matter, has that much in reserve.  If he plans to keep to his actions, then California is looking at cutting state services. 

Let's not forget who is most impacted by the shut down.  All the people that need to work for a living.  All the waiters,  Hotel employees in San Diego to name a few. All the small businesses that we patronize.  Support from unemployment goes only so far.  Believe me, I know.  The stimulus cannot support every American for a long stretch of time.   

As for the virus itself, I believe a few things...

A LOT More people will recover than die.  A LOT More...  In my state, even if you're showing symptoms, they don't want you to go to the hospital unless you're showing signs of shortness of breath.  We won't know the actual survival rate for a while, but I still believe it will be higher than initially 'predicted'.

While people hold out hope for a vaccine, I think treatment will come a lot sooner than a vaccine.  That will increase the rate of recovery significantly.

Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: chocolateshake on April 18, 2020, 02:46:35 PM
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My statement was in reference to the length of time the Governor thinks he can keep the economy of his state shut down.  A LOT can happen in two years.

A lot can happen in 2 years, but he didn't say we would keep up with social distancing no matter what happens.

The economy is not shut down.  It's slowed down and shifted to a home based economy supported by tech.  As the center of tech in the United States, California will benefit from that more than other states.

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All levels of government (Federal, State, City) require revenue.  Government revenue comes from multiple streams.  Income tax, sales tax are two of those streams.  States then turn those streams around to pay for those services we take for granted.  Law Enforcement, Roads, sanitation, etc.  If those streams are cut back, then government starts cutting back on those services.

Yes they do come from multiple sources, losing any source hurts.  But all those things you listed as examples of services that will be cut are funded mostly by property and car registration taxes.  Not income or sales tax.  Income tax is not dropping to zero.  Even if we hit a 25% unemployment rate, 75% of people will still be earning an income and paying income tax.  As these things go, higher income earners and payers will probably keep their jobs since they can do office work remotely.  It's lower income people who can't work remotely which unfortunately will be the ones out of work.

We do not want to this to happen.  This is worse than keeping social distancing.  Both economically and in terms of lives lost.  During the Spanish flu some cities kept up with social distancing, others did not.  It was not good to be living in a city that did not.  In terms of covid, we are in that little bump on the left.  We are trying to avoid that big bump in the middle.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/1918_spanish_flu_waves.gif

Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: puppy on April 18, 2020, 03:04:03 PM
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A lot can happen in 2 years, but he didn't say we would keep up with social distancing no matter what happens.

The economy is not shut down.  It's slowed down and shifted to a home based economy supported by tech.  As the center of tech in the United States, California will benefit from that more than other states.

Yes they do come from multiple sources, losing any source hurts.  But all those things you listed as examples of services that will be cut are funded mostly by property and car registration taxes.  Not income or sales tax.  Income tax is not dropping to zero.  Even if we hit a 25% unemployment rate, 75% of people will still be earning an income and paying income tax.  As these things go, higher income earners and payers will probably keep their jobs since they can do office work remotely.  It's lower income people who can't work remotely which unfortunately will be the ones out of work.

We do not want to this to happen.  This is worse than keeping social distancing.  Both economically and in terms of lives lost.  During the Spanish flu some cities kept up with social distancing, others did not.  It was not good to be living in a city that did not.  In terms of covid, we are in that little bump on the left.  We are trying to avoid that big bump in the middle.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/1918_spanish_flu_waves.gif

I'm with you. I am getting positive vibes from the governor. There are people out of work and that is sad, but we are not shut down. The people with jobs have higher incomes and pay a lot of the taxes. *Slow* will hurt economically, yes, but it is *slow* not *stop*, and he will ramp it up as he is able. Those states that are rushing to open are going to pay a heavy price, both in lives and economics. I'm nearly sure of it.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: epicaz on April 20, 2020, 02:09:56 PM
SDCC being cancelled is tragic but unfortunately expected..

but not having to deal with 2021 registration? Now that's priceless. Badge rollover is the best possible tradeoff in this scenario
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 20, 2020, 02:59:10 PM
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SDCC being cancelled is tragic but unfortunately expected..

but not having to deal with 2021 registration? Now that's priceless. Badge rollover is the best possible tradeoff in this scenario

This may sound weird, but after I  signed up as a volunteer and also joined a badge buying group, I used to look forward to the 'anxiety' of the badge sale. 

Being a volunteer was my backup plan. 

Being part of a buying group was fun because either I helped someone, or they helped me.

To me it was all part of the Comic Con experience.

I know...there's something wrong with me... :)
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: thawk on April 20, 2020, 04:42:30 PM
Requesting transfers for my group - but really bummed.  The business I work with is also devastated - SDCC is huge business for us and to not have that really hurts.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 21, 2020, 08:47:25 PM
Expect this to be clarified in the email later this week.

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https://www.comic-con.org/cci/comic-con-cancellationrefund-policy

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Comic-Con Cancellation/Refund Policy
All individuals who purchased badges for Comic-Con 2020 will have the option to request a refund or transfer their badges to Comic-Con 2021. All 2020 badge holders will receive an email within the next week with instructions on how to request a refund. Thank you for your patience.

not posted on the site yet, but found under forms.

https://www.comic-con.org/comic-con-2020-refund-request-form

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Comic-Con 2020 Refund Request Form


All refund requests must be submitted by July 1, 2020. Your Comic-Con badge purchase is non-refundable after this date and will be transferred to Comic-Con 2021.

Pending refund requests are at the sole discretion of SDCC. No refunds will be issued for any convention prior to Comic-Con 2020. If you request a refund, your entire badge purchase will be refunded. We are unable to offer partial refunds for multiple day badges.


For questions about this form, please contact [email protected].


Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: marcia29 on April 22, 2020, 06:31:10 AM
As the refund form is now on the site, I am guessing emails will begin going out today.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 22, 2020, 08:21:28 AM
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Expect this to be clarified in the email later this week.


not posted on the site yet, but found under forms.

https://www.comic-con.org/comic-con-2020-refund-request-form

Two things I noticed

1.  If you're planning to transfer, it looks like you don't have to do anything

2.  The form asks for the member ID and name of the person who bought the badge.  I'm guessing (it's only a guess), that the refund will go to the person that bought the badge, which makes sense.  I know the badge buying group coordinators are talking about how this will work.  If you're a member of a buying group, and you bought a badge for someone, I'm assuming it's on you to transfer that refund to them.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Michaelnaut on April 22, 2020, 08:54:48 AM
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Two things I noticed

1.  If you're planning to transfer, it looks like you don't have to do anything

2.  The form asks for the member ID and name of the person who bought the badge.  I'm guessing (it's only a guess), that the refund will go to the person that bought the badge, which makes sense.  I know the badge buying group coordinators are talking about how this will work.  If you're a member of a buying group, and you bought a badge for someone, I'm assuming it's on you to transfer that refund to them.
I hope BGs are half as organized as the ones that are here.  If they are, they shouldn't have an issue.  But for those that maybe hooked up w/peeps on like FB or something, and barely conversed...it'll be some interesting metrics to see.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 22, 2020, 09:40:10 AM
Honestly, if the attendee population is similar to the people here, (even half as similar) there shouldn't be much issue. Nearly everyone is going to rollover their badges, so the refunds should be few and far between. Therefore, refund issues with buying groups should be few and far between.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: NCDS on April 22, 2020, 09:54:03 AM
It puzzles me people think BG's will have an issue refunding.  They had no problem organizing to purchase badges, so why would they have issues organizing to refund badges?  The key is to be patient to wait for the buyer to confirm CC with CCI and get the money back, then send it to the person who wanted the refund.  This isn't rocket science.

Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: accelerate on April 22, 2020, 10:06:11 AM
I was thinking, if that form is final, why CCI seems to be defaulting no-action to transferring over to 2021. On one hand, that’s less money they have to return. On the other hand, is there the possibility they raise prices for 2021? I don’t recall a year where prices didn’t go up. They can’t make transfer badge holders pay extra, but they can certainly make new attendees pay more. It’s similar to “early bird” pricing. Or, as something I’m familiar with, races get more expensive the closer to race day it is. In the long run, CCI would stand to earn more revenue if more people get refunded, if they decide to raise prices.

Also, do we know if CCI is doing a similar policy for exhibitors and artists? No reason to think otherwise, I suppose.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 22, 2020, 10:09:33 AM
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It puzzles me people think BG's will have an issue refunding.  They had no problem organizing to purchase badges, so why would they have issues organizing to refund badges?  The key is to be patient to wait for the buyer to confirm CC with CCI and get the money back, then send it to the person who wanted the refund.  This isn't rocket science.

When it comes to money, there is always the potential for problems.

Having said that...

No, it isn't rocket science.  Just outlining the steps. 

As @Michael M (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2539) posted.  There is no anticipation of problems with the buying groups on this forum. 

And...

As @Transmute Jun (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=314)  posted, the fact that so few people will request a refund lessens the possibility of problems even further.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Michaelnaut on April 22, 2020, 10:23:23 AM
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When it comes to money, there is always the potential for problems.

Having said that...

No, it isn't rocket science.  Just outlining the steps. 

As @Michael M (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2539) posted.  There is no anticipation of problems with the buying groups on this forum. 

And...

As @Transmute Jun (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=314)  posted, the fact that so few people will request a refund lessens the possibility of problems even further.
I really gotta come up with a different display name...starting to feel left out... ;D
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 22, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
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As the refund form is now on the site, I am guessing emails will begin going out today.

Archive  of site text

Comic-Con Cancellation/Refund Policy

It is with deep regret that we announce there will be no Comic-Con 2020. We will return to the San Diego Convention Center July 22 - 25, 2021. If you purchased a badge for Comic-Con 2020, you have the option to request a refund or transfer your badge to Comic-Con 2021.

To submit a refund request form, CLICK HERE. You must include your Comic-Con Member ID, first name, last name, and email. The deadline to request a refund is July 1, 2020.

 

If you request a refund, you will only have the option to refund your entire badge order. For example, if you purchased a Thursday, Friday, and Sunday badge, all three badges will be refunded and cancelled. You may not request to cancel the Sunday badge and keep the Thursday and Friday badge.

 

Pending refund requests are at the sole discretion of SDCC. Sending a refund request does not guarantee you a refund. No refunds will be issued for any convention prior to Comic-Con 2020. If you have additional questions, please email [email protected]





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Two things I noticed

1.  If you're planning to transfer, it looks like you don't have to do anything


The form also mentions pros and guests of pros.

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Click this button if the badge you are refunding is a professional or professional guest badge


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Also, do we know if CCI is doing a similar policy for exhibitors and artists? No reason to think otherwise, I suppose.

From CCI home page message, exhibitors will have a payment transfer option.  No mention of Artist's Alley exhibitors.


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Exhibitors for Comic-Con 2020 will also have the option to request a refund or transfer their payments to Comic-Con 2021 and will also receive an email within the next week with instructions on how to process their request.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 22, 2020, 11:36:04 AM
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I was thinking, if that form is final, why CCI seems to be defaulting no-action to transferring over to 2021.

Because it is by far the more popular option. Less work for CCI if everyone just agrees to roll over.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: sessionka on April 22, 2020, 01:46:54 PM
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As the refund form is now on the site, I am guessing emails will begin going out today.

Just got mine!!!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: marcia29 on April 22, 2020, 02:10:06 PM
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Just got mine!!!

YEP...Just got mine, too.  For transfers:

If you would like to transfer your badge to Comic-Con 2021, no action is required from you at this time. Your badge will be automatically transferred to Comic-Con 2021 after July 1, 2020.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Bionic 7 on April 22, 2020, 02:17:38 PM
Got my e-mail too.  I promptly took no action.   :D
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: accelerate on April 22, 2020, 03:18:14 PM
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Got my e-mail too.  I promptly took no action.   :D
I’m a big procrastinator. I’ll probably forget to take no action until it’s too late.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: lostninja on April 22, 2020, 04:32:29 PM
At least this was done correctly, it would've been a double slap having show cancelled and not getting a chance to transfer, they knew it would've created a lots of problems any other way.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Dune930 on April 23, 2020, 08:55:30 AM
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My friends and I will be requesting transfers, but for my friends, they’re kinda screwed. This year they could only make one day, since they have a newborn. So they only got Sunday. They were gonna skip altogether, but they wanted to be able to do Returning Reg next year. But now they will only have Sunday for next year, unless there will be another badge sale and they get really lucky.

Of course, there was no way they could’ve anticipated this scenario or prepared for it. But still, I do feel bad for them.

It looks like there will be very low refunds so chances are extremely low for your friends to get an additional day. I'm telling people that because 2020 is canceled, the badges we got are simply what we'll have for 2021, no more, no less.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: perc2100 on April 23, 2020, 10:48:25 AM
Just wanted to take a moment to give a HUGE shout-out to CCI.  This situation sucks for a myriad of reasons out of all of our control, and CCI handled canceling both WonderCon & SDCCI EXCEPTIONALLY well!  They essentially delivered what the majority of its attendees wanted for SDCCI, and have seemingly made this process as EZPZ as possible.  Whether you're a 2020 badge-buyer, or a Pro CCI has taken care of us and I appreciate everything they do, have done in the 20+ years of me attending their events, and continue to do to make their experience as great and attendee-friendly as possible!!

Bravo, CCI: I look forward to your next WonderCon, Comic-Con, and the Museum - all hopefully coming spring-summer 2021!!
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Dubb on April 23, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
Out of our entire 15+ buying group, I only had to refund one. The form was easy, and I already received an email receipt for my refund. I will keep an eye on my credit card.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: alyssa on April 23, 2020, 03:43:53 PM
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It looks like there will be very low refunds so chances are extremely low for your friends to get an additional day. I'm telling people that because 2020 is canceled, the badges we got are simply what we'll have for 2021, no more, no less.

i think we will have to wait and see what peoples plans are for 2021. A lot of stuff has not been dialed in yet, weddings/family stuff/international travel etc. I believe a lot of folks are indeed rolling their badges over right now BUT as we get into next fall/winter and the reality of a trip sets is, we may see some folks deciding to not attend sdcc '21.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 23, 2020, 04:24:13 PM
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i think we will have to wait and see what peoples plans are for 2021. A lot of stuff has not been dialed in yet, weddings/family stuff/international travel etc. I believe a lot of folks are indeed rolling their badges over right now BUT as we get into next fall/winter and the reality of a trip sets is, we may see some folks deciding to not attend sdcc '21.

But they have to decide to rollover by July 1. After that, I believe the badges are non-refundable...?
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: ShannonCooper87 on April 23, 2020, 06:21:23 PM
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But they have to decide to rollover by July 1. After that, I believe the badges are non-refundable...?

I think that they will have the normal refund policy (the less 10% restocking fee) came into affect sometime after August or maybe even in the new year, I think that the July 1 date is only for a complete refund.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 23, 2020, 09:36:16 PM
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I think that they will have the normal refund policy (the less 10% restocking fee) came into affect sometime after August or maybe even in the new year, I think that the July 1 date is only for a complete refund.

You may be right, but that's is not what it implies on their refund page.

https://www.comic-con.org/comic-con-2020-refund-request-form

All refund requests must be submitted by July 1, 2020. Your Comic-Con badge purchase is non-refundable after this date and will be transferred to Comic-Con 2021.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: ShannonCooper87 on April 23, 2020, 10:03:20 PM
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You may be right, but that's is not what it implies on their refund page.

https://www.comic-con.org/comic-con-2020-refund-request-form

All refund requests must be submitted by July 1, 2020. Your Comic-Con badge purchase is non-refundable after this date and will be transferred to Comic-Con 2021.

Well that's true, I guess we can only wait and see.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: alyssa on April 24, 2020, 10:49:29 AM
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You may be right, but that's is not what it implies on their refund page.

https://www.comic-con.org/comic-con-2020-refund-request-form

All refund requests must be submitted by July 1, 2020. Your Comic-Con badge purchase is non-refundable after this date and will be transferred to Comic-Con 2021.
good catch... curious tho, tbh, i'd expect cci to revert to the 10% penalty scenario, just so they'd be able to resell those badges. I can certainly understand not being able to deal with the ramifications of the 10% refund policy tho.
that's the nice thing about CCI and ReedPop tho, they are capable of making running changes to policy if there's a good logical reason.
Title: Re: 2020 SDCC is officially cancelled_POLL _Transfer or Refund?
Post by: hikanteki on April 24, 2020, 12:05:44 PM
July 1 may be the deadline to refund 2020 badges, but at that point they’ll become 2021 badges. I’d expect 2021 badges will have a different timeline for refunds (and probably the 10% fee.)