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Title: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 12:35:24 PM
There was much talk about the odds for the Exclusives lottery.  This poll may not answer the exact odds, but it might help.
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Post by: jamiesugah on July 13, 2018, 01:18:38 PM
I entered for almost every Funko slot and for multiple autograph signings and got nada. *sigh*
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Post by: TardisMom on July 13, 2018, 01:19:41 PM
I'm 0/57 and my daughters both got skunked, too.
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Post by: debster on July 13, 2018, 01:21:01 PM
Entered 15 things, got nothing.
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Post by: Jonathan on July 13, 2018, 01:21:27 PM
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There was much talk about the odds for the Exclusives lottery.  This poll may not answer the exact odds, but it might help.

I know it'd make the poll too overwhelming, but I wonder if you should have added "more than 1 win" to the polls. Some of us won more than once, and it might be interesting to see how many.
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Post by: Loliiz on July 13, 2018, 01:23:53 PM
Got 4 and entered almost for everything

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Post by: Vapors on July 13, 2018, 01:24:30 PM
I entered 4 things I wanted and stuck in a "hey why not me" try at another.  Nothing.  Not disappointed at all, since I would have never tried them in the first place.

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I'm 0/57 and my daughters both got skunked, too.

Wow really!  That is tough.
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Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 01:25:26 PM
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I know it'd make the poll too overwhelming, but I wonder if you should have added "more than 1 win" to the polls. Some of us won more than once, and it might be interesting to see how many.

I thought about it, but it would have required so many options.  Maybe a separate poll?
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Post by: Pyramid on July 13, 2018, 01:26:53 PM
1.  Got 1.  I guess I should be happy considering what I am seeing online.  But one out of 30?  My wife selected 23 and got nada.  Next year, I think I'll select everything.  Hopefully they change the algorithm next year.
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Post by: rabbitwarren on July 13, 2018, 01:27:24 PM
I don't think I've ever won a Sails lottery. 
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Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 01:28:27 PM
One thing I wonder is how much success was related to the types of things you tried for.  I'm sure some things had more entries than others.
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Post by: llograms on July 13, 2018, 01:28:43 PM
Entered for 22 (mixture of merch/signings), got 0  :blank:
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Post by: epicaz on July 13, 2018, 01:30:01 PM
For the sake of statistics, I entered all funko/hasbro/ucc for Thurs/Fri, all lego slots for every day, and majority of the Fox TV autographs + Flash

Got 1 UCC, 1 hasbro, 1 Lego
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Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 01:30:17 PM
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One thing I wonder is how much success was related to the types of things you tried for.  I'm sure some things had more entries than others.

Another factor could be that different exclusives/signings may have given away different numbers of winners.  You probably had more chance with the exclusives than the signings--longer timeslots and more of them.
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 01:32:50 PM
Got nothing, I entered 10, oh well!

I still like this process even though I didn't win anything. Saves a lot of precious time :)

What are your thought on the process?? or should this question be on a separate thread?

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Post by: Jonathan on July 13, 2018, 01:33:46 PM
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1.  Got 1.  I guess I should be happy considering what I am seeing online.  But one out of 30?  My wife selected 23 and got nada.  Next year, I think I'll select everything.  Hopefully they change the algorithm next year.

I know coming from me, it's probably not going to resonate, but wanting them to change the algorithm? Had you won 3 times or 4, I doubt you'd be saying that. It happens. It's like the video game DESTINY with RNG. I think I entered about 30 (for things I truly wanted, and didn't enter for those I didn't want) and won 3. It happens. Next year, I could win 0. If the system is random, then I wouldn't want anything changed. Those who don't win will always be upset. There simply is nothing else that can be done. Again, as long as it's random, that's fine with me, no algorithm or anything else changed.
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Post by: sylent_asassin on July 13, 2018, 01:35:52 PM
I got two Legos. I should have been greedy and signed up for everything, that way I have trading power at least.
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Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
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I know coming from me, it's probably not going to resonate, but wanting them to change the algorithm? Had you won 3 times or 4, I doubt you'd be saying that. It happens. It's like the video game DESTINY with RNG. I think I entered about 30 (for things I truly wanted, and didn't enter for those I didn't want) and won 3. It happens. Next year, I could win 0. If the system is random, then I wouldn't want anything changed. Those who don't win will always be upset. There simply is nothing else that can be done. Again, as long as it's random, that's fine with me, no algorithm or anything else changed.

I had no idea what the typical number of entries were when I constructed the poll.  I should have made my top break higher.  I was biased by my own entry of just three items.
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Post by: Katamari13 on July 13, 2018, 01:38:25 PM
Out of 11 of us (we signed up for everything):
4 - Got Nothing
2 - Hasbro
2 - Lego Millenium Falcon
1 - Lego Millenium Falcon + Autograph for Riverdale
1 - Autograph for Lucifer
1 - Hasbro + UCC + Autograph for Super Hero Girls + Lego Millenium Falcon + Lego Rage Kitty
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Post by: Boukenred on July 13, 2018, 01:38:55 PM
I got 3; I got Space Odyssey, Black Lightning and Geoff Johns.
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Post by: TheTFReview on July 13, 2018, 01:39:52 PM
I signed up for everything except UCC and got shafted. I think they should have at least allowed 1 exclusives per person instead of awarding some people 4 and most people none.
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Post by: karl clement on July 13, 2018, 01:45:09 PM
got one which is great Lego star wars
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Post by: eek on July 13, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
0/1
But not concerned. Saved me some time/money to spend elsewhere.
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Post by: azul120 on July 13, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
Signed up for 12 autographs, got 0.

For anyone who won a signing, did it say when/where to come?
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Post by: susanml10881 on July 13, 2018, 01:50:48 PM
I saw a good handful of people get Lucifer. Maybe because it was added late and had fewer entries potentially? I don’t mind the process though I see many complaints and people demanding refunds on social media. But what about the people who don’t claim their winnings? There will be some
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Post by: Vapors on July 13, 2018, 01:55:14 PM
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For anyone who won a signing, did it say when/where to come?

I just want to say, the fact most autographs had no times was what made me hesitate to enter more of them. 
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Post by: DaveG on July 13, 2018, 01:59:15 PM
0 for 35.

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Post by: Zod1966 on July 13, 2018, 02:01:58 PM
2 for 37.  Got the Aquaman and the Millennium Falcon Lego sets...
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Post by: susanml10881 on July 13, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
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I just want to say, the fact most autographs had no times was what made me hesitate to enter more of them.

At Wondercon, the confirmation told us the time, not sure about these as I didn’t win any signing.
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Post by: epicaz on July 13, 2018, 02:05:44 PM
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I know coming from me, it's probably not going to resonate, but wanting them to change the algorithm? Had you won 3 times or 4, I doubt you'd be saying that. It happens. It's like the video game DESTINY with RNG. I think I entered about 30 (for things I truly wanted, and didn't enter for those I didn't want) and won 3. It happens. Next year, I could win 0. If the system is random, then I wouldn't want anything changed. Those who don't win will always be upset. There simply is nothing else that can be done. Again, as long as it's random, that's fine with me, no algorithm or anything else changed.

This is how I feel. A random drawing from entries is as fair as it gets. This is what the vast majority wanted, given that vast majority was mostly outside of the people that put in the time and effort to ensure things in the past.

Limiting to one per person hurts the people who have multiple things they truly, truly want.. But moreso because there's no way to truly guarantee one selection. Like if 50,000 people used their one entry on 500 slots of Funko, good luck there. Its an honor code, but you might as well enter for everything you want if your chance is minuscule in all of them, that way you can at least say you tried. Now if you're talking a one WIN limit per person.. Well, it sucks for those that truly want multiple things because their win may not be their favorite.. It may limit people to only enter for things they're okay with being their one win..though they'll still enter for EVERYTHING they want.

If they're going to change anything, it may be nice to do an ordered priority list like the hotel lottery. Like hey, here are my 6 favorites in order.. and have that be that. Complex algorithm, high strike out rate, but you know..
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Post by: sylent_asassin on July 13, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
For the most part, the consensus is that folks signed up for multiple exclusives and got 1 or 2 at best. I wonder if any one person won more than 3.
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Post by: Zod1966 on July 13, 2018, 02:10:56 PM
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Got nothing, I entered 10, oh well!

I still like this process even though I didn't win anything. Saves a lot of precious time :)

What are your thought on the process?? or should this question be on a separate thread?

Don't know if this should be on a separate thread..it is a sensitive topic to be sure...

my thoughts?  I am not a fan.  My four friends who have been going to SDCC for a long time are Funko fanatics...they put in a lot of time, work and effort to be able to get some of their Funko exclusives wishlist...it is a major reason why they go to SDCC. Sure the lines were crazy and hard fought, but they had fun!  They loved having bragging rights to say they got one of the top Funko pops of SDCC.

However, today they all were shut out.  Now they really don't know what they're going to do...their planned fun has been denied even before they arrive to the Con.  I am sure they'll find something else to do but it is a huge bummer for them to be sure.
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Post by: Zod1966 on July 13, 2018, 02:13:46 PM
Also, looking at our admittedly very limited poll, it looks as if 50% got nothing and the other 50% got everything.
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Post by: brand4d2 on July 13, 2018, 02:13:55 PM
I like this process and hope that they stick with it in the future. 

I entered all Lego, all Funko but for Hasbro was more strategic about it.  Seeing as how historically, by Friday afternoon, Hasbro’s lines are minimal, I felt the value of Friday and beyond time slots would not be as great and this being a new system, was not sure if winning those slots take you out of the running for PN or Thu.   

Anyhow, I only got one success and it was a Fri afternoon Lego Falcon slot. 
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Post by: f22raptor on July 13, 2018, 02:20:08 PM
Entered into all the exclusive lotteries and got 3 that are from the bottom of my list.

1. Hasbro
2. Lego Mini Fig Drawing (Sunday)
3  Autograph- Warner Bros TV for DC Super Hero Girls

Lottery sucks!  Bring back the lines.
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Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on July 13, 2018, 02:20:52 PM
I entered more than 12 things (autographs and exclusives) and won nothing.
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Post by: jristen on July 13, 2018, 02:24:22 PM
honestly, the most upsetting part of this process isn't losing everything (I had my expectations set very low), it's seeing people complain that they "only" won something I desperately wanted or that they didn't win enough.  :(
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 02:27:48 PM
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honestly, the most upsetting part of this process isn't losing everything (I had my expectations set very low), it's seeing people complain that they "only" won something I desperately wanted or that they didn't win enough.  :(

Precisely! or they say they won something they didn't even want! why did you enter that then??? lol
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Post by: dcol on July 13, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
Their system should not give anyone more than one signing and one exclusive. That would be unfair to those that got none.
The really unfair thing is the TBD signings. Most people have events scheduled already and probably won't make those signings. They should not put up a signing without the scheduled time.
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Post by: sylent_asassin on July 13, 2018, 02:28:25 PM
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my thoughts?  I am not a fan.  My four friends who have been going to SDCC for a long time are Funko fanatics...they put in a lot of time, work and effort to be able to get some of their Funko exclusives wishlist...it is a major reason why they go to SDCC. Sure the lines were crazy and hard fought, but they had fun!  They loved having bragging rights to say they got one of the top Funko pops of SDCC.

This echoes my mindset. In previous years, my friends and I would line up for exclusives before the hall opened HOURS before everyone else; we felt that since we put forth the time and effort, we earned our rewards, but with this lottery system?.. Meh. So much for "the early bird getting the worm." This feels like a sign of the times.

I'm just thankful that there are no must-haves for me at the Hasbro booth and that I'm not a Funko collector. At least I can spend my time planning to do something else now.

Does anyone know if they'll allow lines toward the end of the day OR no lottery win = SOL.
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Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 02:28:38 PM
The results so far don't indicate to me that 100,000 people participated, as many were saying would.
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Post by: DaveG on July 13, 2018, 02:32:17 PM
Not going to be upset.  Under the old system I got nothing and under the new system I got nothing.  So For me it really doesn't matter.


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Post by: Maxdoom5 on July 13, 2018, 02:33:31 PM
Holy cow I was feeling bummed that I only got the Deadpool minifigure and Star Wars LEGO sets. Turn out I should be thanking my lucky stars to have made out so well. Just found out my wife got funko and Hasbro so from a household standpoint we’re money


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Post by: darlenealderson on July 13, 2018, 02:37:14 PM
Entered 30? and won nothing :/
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 02:37:22 PM
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Holy cow I was feeling bummed that I only got the Deadpool minifigure and Star Wars LEGO sets. Turn out I should be thanking my lucky stars to have made out so well. Just found out my wife got funko and Hasbro so from a household standpoint we’re money


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Post by: clarrkkent on July 13, 2018, 02:42:52 PM
Entered for WB/DC signings 1 and 2, 3 Hasbro spots, and one Ant Man LEGO spot. Wife did the same.

0 for 12 between the two of us.


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Post by: f22raptor on July 13, 2018, 02:47:22 PM
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honestly, the most upsetting part of this process isn't losing everything (I had my expectations set very low), it's seeing people complain that they "only" won something I desperately wanted or that they didn't win enough.  :(

Some folks just have very high standards and metal toughness.
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Post by: jristen on July 13, 2018, 02:49:50 PM
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Some folks just have very high standards and metal toughness.

Errr I don’t think anything I said has to do with mental toughness or “very high” standards.
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Post by: Zod1966 on July 13, 2018, 03:03:25 PM
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Errr I don’t think anything I said has to do with mental toughness or “very high” standards.

In the old system with the lines you had to have both.  lol
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 03:17:53 PM
Idk if this has been said before but for the ones who didn't win anything... you still won the biggest lottery of all, and it's that you have a badge to attend! some people don't even have a badge so yeah:)
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Post by: sylent_asassin on July 13, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
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Idk if this has been said before but for the ones who didn't win anything... you still won the biggest lottery of all, and it's that you have a badge to attend! some people don't even have a badge so yeah:)

I dunno... Going to SDCC and not being able to buy anything might be worse than not going at all, especially if exclusives are your primary mission. To coin a Football analogy, this is kind of like getting to the Super Bowl, getting out to a huge lead and losing in the final seconds. Remember how the Falcons felt a couple of years ago? That's this. lol
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 04:07:37 PM
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I dunno... Going to SDCC and not being able to buy anything might be worse than not going at all, especially if exclusives are your primary mission. To coin a Football analogy, this is kind of like getting to the Super Bowl, getting out to a huge lead and losing in the final seconds. Remember how the Falcons felt a couple of years ago? That's this. lol

yeah I guess but...

If you compare yourself to those who have more than you (won exclusives) you'll feel bad about it

If you compare yourself to those who have less than you (no badge) you'll feel better

take your pick lol whichever makes you feel better :D
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 04:10:10 PM
Also, if you wanted funko then you will be able to buy some at retailers and still have the SDCC exclusive sticker

https://sdccblog.com/2018/07/buying-funko-san-diego-comic-con-2018-exclusives-outside-comic-con/
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Post by: foxbatkllr on July 13, 2018, 04:13:21 PM
My wife and I combined for several UCC timeslots on thursday and friday as well as Bob's Burgers and Archer autographs.  We ended up with one total UCC timeslot between the two of us.
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Post by: Zod1966 on July 13, 2018, 04:35:23 PM
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I dunno... Going to SDCC and not being able to buy anything might be worse than not going at all, especially if exclusives are your primary mission. To coin a Football analogy, this is kind of like getting to the Super Bowl, getting out to a huge lead and losing in the final seconds. Remember how the Falcons felt a couple of years ago? That's this. lol

That is how I feel as well.  I've never been interested in Funko or Lego and Hasbro, with the exception of the Magic cards...but I always appreciated the effort of people who would put up insane effort just for the chance to get one of those hot items.  Now that effort has been diluted IMO.

Oh and I hate the Patriots!  lol
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Post by: dkd on July 13, 2018, 04:42:02 PM
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I dunno... Going to SDCC and not being able to buy anything might be worse than not going at all, especially if exclusives are your primary mission. To coin a Football analogy, this is kind of like getting to the Super Bowl, getting out to a huge lead and losing in the final seconds. Remember how the Falcons felt a couple of years ago? That's this. lol

There’s a phrase that comes to mind regarding Festivals and Conventions: “ Don’t come just for one thing.”

I have no sympathy.  It’s called a “convention”. Not a shopping mall.

Hopefully, these “I come only for the exclusives” people get discouraged and stop attending.  Let more people in who are coming in the spirit of what SDCC is really about.
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 04:48:12 PM
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There’s a phrase that comes to mind regarding Festivals and Conventions: “ Don’t come just for one thing.”

I have no sympathy.  It’s called a “convention”. Not a shopping mall.

Hopefully, these “I come only for the exclusives” people get discouraged and stop attending.  Let more people in who are coming in the spirit of what SDCC is really about.

Totally agree! There's tons of other things to do!
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Post by: ozzz on July 13, 2018, 04:50:20 PM
Also..... it’s not the end of the world lol
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Post by: Sakura17 on July 13, 2018, 05:56:37 PM
I'm wondering if time was a factor. I got hasbro preview night and that was the only thing I got when I checked the site today. I picked it before the site crashed initially when it first went live.
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Post by: BadWolf on July 13, 2018, 06:32:38 PM
Entered maybe 20 lotteries and got nothing. Same with my friend!
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Post by: omraged9 on July 13, 2018, 06:34:35 PM
I got nada, which isn't a big deal, but I heard something that annoyed me. A friend mentioned that his friend won a ticket for a signing on Saturday but she doesn't have a Saturday badge. I would have thought CCI should have been able to prevent this. So it means that the odds of winning a ticket is even worse. Like if you have 130K attendees for Saturday but, say, 200K actual badge holders for any particular day, that means your chance of winning a ticket is even harder when you compete for spots with every single badge holder.
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Post by: susanml10881 on July 13, 2018, 06:45:54 PM
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I got nada, which isn't a big deal, but I heard something that annoyed me. A friend mentioned that his friend won a ticket for a signing on Saturday but she doesn't have a Saturday badge. I would have thought CCI should have been able to prevent this. So it means that the odds of winning a ticket is even worse. Like if you have 130K attendees for Saturday but, say, 200K actual badge holders for any particular day, that means your chance of winning a ticket is even harder when you compete for spots with every single badge holder.

Could it have been a glitch? People who didn’t have certain days weren’t supposed to see those options. Idk.
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Post by: ChocolateGeek on July 13, 2018, 07:09:43 PM
I am responsible for everything for both myself and my sister on this trip.   So I entered both of us for every exclusive thing on the list.
I got nothing.
She got Black Lighting and Lego Kitty.
And I'm the Black Lighting fan.
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Post by: omraged9 on July 13, 2018, 07:10:14 PM
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Could it have been a glitch? People who didn’t have certain days weren’t supposed to see those options. Idk.

I'm pretty confused about it myself. The friend's friend won a ticket for the Castle Rock signing. I saw a screenshot of the confirmation. It states the signing will take place on Saturday 7/21. But I see that the panel for Castle Rock is on Friday. Did the signing day move? Or is it a typo on the confirmation page?
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Post by: gestes64 on July 13, 2018, 09:16:54 PM
I signed up for 6 Warner Bros. signings and got 1 (Lucifer).  Frankly this was one more than I expected, considering I'd struck out for everything else I'd entered or tried to get tickets for, LOL.
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Post by: Cut That Meat on July 13, 2018, 10:55:29 PM
Submitted exactly 50
- 27 time slots: Mix and match of Hasbro/Funko/UCC
- 20 autograph signings
- 3 minifigs

Won 3
- 2 time slots: Hasbro and UCC
- 0 signings
- 1 minifig

I've shied away from autograph draws in recent years anyway and I've had the worst luck with the LEGO minifig tablet draws, so I'm content :)
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Post by: mcnuggets on July 13, 2018, 11:12:23 PM
I signed up for a ton of things and I ended up winning three times.

1 funko sunday
1 ucc on friday
1 ucc on sunday
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: koop1974 on July 14, 2018, 02:41:15 AM
I signed up for 13 and got nothing.

My husband signed up for the same 13 and got 1 (LEGO Ant Man & the Wasp).

Extra ramblings....Our selections were for Saturday & Sunday only. This year we were only able to get Sunday badges, however we are on the volunteer list. The slot my husband was able to get is on Saturday, which is when we plan to volunteer. We would have put in for more days but we didn’t have much luck with hotels either so we won’t be in SD until Friday. To make a long story, short... (too late!!!)...  This process will be lumped in with badges & hotels as determining & nerve wracking factors to how we schedule our days inside & for outside events.
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Post by: Jason on July 14, 2018, 05:08:01 AM
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There’s a phrase that comes to mind regarding Festivals and Conventions: “ Don’t come just for one thing.”

I have no sympathy.  It’s called a “convention”. Not a shopping mall.

Hopefully, these “I come only for the exclusives” people get discouraged and stop attending.  Let more people in who are coming in the spirit of what SDCC is really about.

But for those people, exclusives *are* what SDCC is about. Maybe it’s not that way for you, but it is for them.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: DaveG on July 14, 2018, 06:03:44 AM
Well, after about 10 minutes of feeling sad over my typical bad luck, I got over it and con life moves on.  But for me, exclusives and autographs are not critical to my con experience.  I like them and put some effort into getting them, but at the end of the day if I miss out, it is what it is.  But for some people, it is more important and I do feel for them.  I entered 35 lotteries and tried for many things I sort of wanted, but felt like I had to enter everything I was remotely interested in, in the hopes I 'd win something.  I'm sure many people won things that in normal circumstances they wouldn't have even bothered to try.  They're pretty happy right now and think this new process is a major success.  To them, I say congrats, have fun.  But have a little sympathy for people adapting to a new con reality.

I can't help but wonder what is next?  Will seating in Hall H become a lottery?  Imagine being lucky enough to get a badge, but find out you can't get any major exclusives, autographs or a good seat in Hall H and no amount of sacrifice or effort will help.  What you need is luck.  Sure, there's still plenty to do and lots of fun to be had, but at the end of the day all the "water cooler" talk will center around those big ticket items or events and whatever your "thing" is at SDCC, everyone there wants to be a part of it.  Being shut out isn't fun.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: LadyCerulean on July 14, 2018, 08:34:39 AM
I got nothing as well, and I basically entered everything my schedule allowed me to.

If they were things for me, I'd just shrug and say 'Eh.  It happens'.  But I'm disappointed because these would have been things for other people.  The LEGO sets would have been awesome to send my boyfriend's nephews.  His brother and sis-in-law are Supernatural fans, so I would have loved to get autographs for them.  My boyfriend is a fan of a couple shows that had signings, so getting autographs would have been great.

Yes, I can get other things.  But it's still a bit disappointing.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: TheTFReview on July 14, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
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There’s a phrase that comes to mind regarding Festivals and Conventions: “ Don’t come just for one thing.”

I have no sympathy.  It’s called a “convention”. Not a shopping mall.

Hopefully, these “I come only for the exclusives” people get discouraged and stop attending.  Let more people in who are coming in the spirit of what SDCC is really about.

I am a toy collector and reviewer, I go to SDCC to buy all the neat and unique toys that can't be purchased anywhere else. Your comment is insanely tone-deaf and rude. That would be like saying "Comic-Con isn't really about comics anymore, hopefully all of the comic collectors will get discouraged and stop attending."

The spirit of SDCC is really about being able to celebrate the things that you enjoy. Just because you don't enjoy something that other people do doesn't make their reason to visit any less valid than yours.

And in case you have not noticed, 90% of the show floor are vendors, vendors sell things, so yes and exhibit hall is a place designed for people to purchase things KINDA LIKE A MALL.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: ALF on July 14, 2018, 09:55:14 AM
The Spirit of Comic Con... Is that like the Spirit of Christmas Past?  Or more like the “The Great Pumpkin” from the Peanuts.  ;)
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: chocolateshake on July 14, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
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There’s a phrase that comes to mind regarding Festivals and Conventions: “ Don’t come just for one thing.”

I have no sympathy.  It’s called a “convention”. Not a shopping mall.

Hopefully, these “I come only for the exclusives” people get discouraged and stop attending.  Let more people in who are coming in the spirit of what SDCC is really about.

Then you seem not to know the history of SDCC and thus what it's "really about".  While I don't buy anything at comic-con because I'm too cheap, being a "shopping mall" is a big part of it's history and what it's "really about".
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on July 14, 2018, 10:15:33 AM
So basically if you enter for more than 12 things, you have a 50-50 chance of scoring at least one item.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: Andrew Costa Mesa on July 14, 2018, 10:17:29 AM
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Or more like the “The Great Pumpkin” from the Peanuts.  ;)

More like "The Wizard of Oz" or "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory," lol.   :D
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: dkd on July 14, 2018, 11:27:11 AM
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Then you seem not to know the history of SDCC and thus what it's "really about".  While I don't buy anything at comic-con because I'm too cheap, being a "shopping mall" is a big part of it's history and what it's "really about".

You misread me. I was referring to people who ONLY come for the exclusives and aren’t interested in much else. I’m not referring to people who shop as part of a broader experience.  The “dealer room” for trading, selling, and buying comics has been part of comics conventions forever.

I’ve been coming since 2000. This will be my 19th SDCC. I’ve also attended Worldcon, the original science fiction convention that goes back to the 30’s. The original purpose of these conventions was for people who share non-mainstream interest to meet each other.

It’s always a bad idea to attend a convention or a festival for just one thing. If that one thing disappoints, there’s nothing to fall back on.

Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: spoox on July 14, 2018, 11:27:25 AM
I got 1 out of the 20 I signed up for. The Lego rage kitty. I am happy! :D Hubby got 2 out of 21, also Legos. The Millennium Falcon Cockpit and Aquaman figure. I was reeeeally hoping on a signing for The Orville and/or Venom but ah well :) Hopefully I can find the times of these signings so I can at least snap some pictures :D
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: chocolateshake on July 14, 2018, 03:28:22 PM
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You misread me. I was referring to people who ONLY come for the exclusives and aren’t interested in much else. I’m not referring to people who shop as part of a broader experience.  The “dealer room” for trading, selling, and buying comics has been part of comics conventions forever.

I’ve been coming since 2000. This will be my 19th SDCC. I’ve also attended Worldcon, the original science fiction convention that goes back to the 30’s. The original purpose of these conventions was for people who share non-mainstream interest to meet each other.

It’s always a bad idea to attend a convention or a festival for just one thing. If that one thing disappoints, there’s nothing to fall back on.

I think people should make comic-con anything they want it to be.  If they only want to run around getting all the exclusives, go for it.  If they only want to be in the panels all day and never step foot on the exhibit floor, go for it.  If they only want to walk around all day cosplaying, go for it.  If they only want to go to the offsites and never set foot in the convention center, go for it.  If they only want to go to events that have free food, go for it.  And of course if they want to try to do all those things, go for it.

Having the freedom to do what they want to do without being judged is what it's "really about".
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: Zod1966 on July 14, 2018, 03:32:14 PM
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I think people should make comic-con anything they want it to be.  If they only want to run around getting all the exclusives, go for it.  If they only want to be in the panels all day and never step foot on the exhibit floor, go for it.  If they only want to walk around all day cosplaying, go for it.  If they only want to go to the offsites and never set foot in the convention center, go for it.  If they only want to go to events that have free food, go for it.  And of course if they want to try to do all those things, go for it.

Having the freedom to do what they want to do without being judged is what it's "really about".

This x10000000
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: PlasticManJr on July 14, 2018, 04:43:37 PM
My wife and I submitted 12 each and got nothing. I don't like that WB didn't say what the films (as well as the signing times) were. Exclusive signings were also hard, but including people such as Tom King, Mitch Gerads, Geoff Johns, Scott Snyder, and Jim Lee in the lotteries makes them much harder than they were.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: dkd on July 14, 2018, 08:55:23 PM
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I think people should make comic-con anything they want it to be.  If they only want to run around getting all the exclusives, go for it.  If they only want to be in the panels all day and never step foot on the exhibit floor, go for it.  If they only want to walk around all day cosplaying, go for it.  If they only want to go to the offsites and never set foot in the convention center, go for it.  If they only want to go to events that have free food, go for it.  And of course if they want to try to do all those things, go for it.

Having the freedom to do what they want to do without being judged is what it's "really about".

I agree with you.  Well said.  SDCC has room for all sorts of fans.

But, if the things you want to do now have barriers that didn't exist before, an adjustment is in order.  The lotteries are an adjustment that "exclusives" people have to figure out.

I would love to attend Hall H panels without an extraordinary effort, but that's not possible.  I adjusted to the difficulty of attending Hall H panels by just choosing to do something else.  Others don't seem to mind the difficulty and go for it.

Our ability to "go for it" is no longer an "equal opportunity" process.  Some things are easier to go for than others.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: con4life on July 14, 2018, 10:49:05 PM
I submitted for most things and ended up with:

1) Lego Unikitty
2) Jim Lee signing
3) Fox's The Passage signing

Open to trading either signings for Lego stuff :)
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: sefton42 on July 15, 2018, 06:47:02 AM
I submitted about 30, got 0.  0fer record all time for lotteries at SDCC — exclusives portal, Conan, Horton Grand, even Star Trek Beyond screening.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: DaveG on July 15, 2018, 07:00:53 AM
For everyone who entered 12 or more lotteries, take heart, you beat the odds.  Based on current results, for those that entered 12 or more, 54% ended up winning at least 1.  We're one of the 46%.

LOL  Typical luck on my part.  I was once entered into a drawing for door prizes at a work event.  There were 119 entries.  They had more than 119 prizes to give away so everyone got something, but got to pick their prize in the order their number was drawn.  Yep, my number was the 119th drawn.  Seems like that tradition continues with SDCC.  So until they announce 130K winners, I'm not too optimistic.  And people wonder why I'd rather camp overnight in line.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: Pyramid on July 15, 2018, 08:41:13 AM
I have no doubt that the Exclusives Portal will be fine tuned next year.  Maybe CCI could give attendees the option to choose their top 3 choices.  Otherwise, why not just spam the Portal and get at least something and then offer trades.  It would be great if CCI could give attendees info earlier in the year should people want to make different plans but that would require companies to have their exclusive info available really early on which may not be feasible.
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I submitted for most things and ended up with:

1) Lego Unikitty
2) Jim Lee signing
3) Fox's The Passage signing

Open to trading either signings for Lego stuff :)

Jealous about the Jim Lee signing.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: oneqtpieami on July 16, 2018, 12:57:00 AM
I selected everything, not knowing you couldn’t I select if you changed your mind. I won the Mondo poster but nothing else so technically from the lottery I got zero. My kids each only entered for around 30-35 and both of them got two each with my son getting the ever coveted Thursday 9:30 slot!

No signings for any of us which sucks because that is what we all like most. I was dreading this new system and after the results I got I really wish we could do it the old way.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: Ngokatie85 on July 16, 2018, 02:57:25 AM
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I selected everything, not knowing you couldn’t I select if you changed your mind. I won the Mondo poster but nothing else so technically from the lottery I got zero. My kids each only entered for around 30-35 and both of them got two each with my son getting the ever coveted Thursday 9:30 slot!

No signings for any of us which sucks because that is what we all like most. I was dreading this new system and after the results I got I really wish we could do it the old way.

Omg please don’t complain if your family got one of the most coveted spots at sdcc. Plenty long time sdcc attendees got jack and your complaining about the signings. At least your family got something.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: cire_raeb on July 16, 2018, 11:32:41 PM
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I agree with you.  Well said.  SDCC has room for all sorts of fans.

But, if the things you want to do now have barriers that didn't exist before, an adjustment is in order.  The lotteries are an adjustment that "exclusives" people have to figure out.

I would love to attend Hall H panels without an extraordinary effort, but that's not possible.  I adjusted to the difficulty of attending Hall H panels by just choosing to do something else.  Others don't seem to mind the difficulty and go for it.

Our ability to "go for it" is no longer an "equal opportunity" process.  Some things are easier to go for than others.
  This lottery is not about equal opportunity or fairness, it is about a vocal minority that wants to pass his or her misery onto others. 
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: Sonic77 on July 17, 2018, 12:16:11 AM
The lottery is currently flawed but so is the line system, dont know how many times I've seen 1 person in line become 6 later.  Fact is there's no way to make a perfect system so everyone is happy, just got to adjust to the changes since there's no going back.
Title: Re: Exclusives "Success Rate" Poll
Post by: cire_raeb on July 17, 2018, 09:54:39 AM
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The lottery is currently flawed but so is the line system, dont know how many times I've seen 1 person in line become 6 later.  Fact is there's no way to make a perfect system so everyone is happy, just got to adjust to the changes since there's no going back.

I think Comic Con allows 1 person to hold for 4-5 others in the lines.  I know it is a common practice among the Hall H/ B20 line groups  where  individuals rotate standing  2-3 hours shift for each other to get into a next day panel.