Friends of Comic Cons

Comic-Con International => SDCC Programming, Panels, and Lines => Topic started by: Joel23d on February 26, 2015, 02:06:01 PM

Title: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Joel23d on February 26, 2015, 02:06:01 PM
Hi does anyone have any advice and tips on how to attend Hall H on Saturday? I got a ticket to Saturday it would be my first time going on Saturday and to Hall H ever. Does anyone know what time I should be in line for Hall H? I love in LA. I really want to go to the Marvel and Dc movie panels. Also is the wait worth it?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 26, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
You may want to check out this thread from last eyar, Joel. It has a lot of the discussion you're looking for.

http://friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=1567.0 (http://friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=1567.0)

No one can tell you whether or not it is 'worth it'. that is something you have to decide for yourself. Everyone is different and what might be worth it to some is not to another.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Joel23d on February 26, 2015, 04:39:01 PM
I haven't seen this question asked anywhere so far. But... What are the chances of me getting into Hall H on Saturday by myself? It's just me that is going in this year. How do I use the restroom in line or in the Hall H?
Title: Chances of getting into Hall H on Saturday by yourself.
Post by: Joel23d on February 26, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
what are the chances of me waiting in line to get into Hall H on Saturday by myself? I have one other person coming with me to Saturday of comic con 2015. But he is not interested in going to the panels with me on Saturday. He just wants to look around inside the convention. Would I need to make friends to hold a spot in line for me to use restroom? How does that work?
Title: Re: Chances of getting into Hall H on Saturday by yourself.
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 26, 2015, 05:04:44 PM
Generally you would make friends with the people in line around you. If you need to use the restroom, they should be willing to hold your spot, as long as your absence is brief.
Title: Re: Chances of getting into Hall H on Saturday by yourself.
Post by: Zero on February 26, 2015, 05:22:56 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
what are the chances of me waiting in line to get into Hall H on Saturday by myself? I have one other person coming with me to Saturday of comic con 2015. But he is not interested in going to the panels with me on Saturday. He just wants to look around inside the convention. Would I need to make friends to hold a spot in line for me to use restroom? How does that work?

Start by just making small talk with the people in line around you.  Ask them what panel they're interested in seeing and go from there.  It can be a little awkward at first, but it should get easier the longer you spend time in line (since you're all going to be there for a while, ha ha).  Establish a rapport with them, and they'll more likely offer to keep your spot in line while you go on a short food run or restroom break.

Hope that helps!


-------------------------------------------
Moved from the "General Discussion" to "Programming, Panels, and Lines" forum.

^__^d

Title: Re: Chances of getting into Hall H on Saturday by yourself.
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 26, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Start by just making small talk with the people in line around you.  Ask them what panel they're interested in seeing and go from there.  It can be a little awkward at first, but it should get easier the longer you spend time in line (since you're all going to be there for a while, ha ha).  Establish a rapport with them, and they'll more likely offer to keep your spot in line while you go on a short food run or restroom break.

Zero has some good suggestions. Another thing you can do, if you're going on a food run, is offer to pick up something for the people around you.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: AlaskaRainbow on February 26, 2015, 05:25:01 PM
Ok, I know it wasn't on Sat when the big panels are but last year we completely lucked out and got in Hall H on Thurs for the DreamWorks panel.  We didn't wait in line at all - someone had tweeted a photo of a lot of empty seats in Hall H just before the panel was going to start so we took a chance and booked it there. We were on the Exhibit floor all the way down by the Gaming area but thought let's take a chance.  We got to Hall H and they were just begging people to come in - I thought it was a joke.  I felt like I had won the lottery!
Anyway, I'm guessing that will probably be my one and only time getting into Hall H but it was a great panel even though we were about halfway back.  They had Jim Parsons, John Malkovich and Benedict Cumberbatch (I know, right?!), they showed clips of the new Penguins of Madagascar movie as well as clips from Home (I think that's the name, Jim Parsons is the voice of an alien).  It was a surreal experience. 
So my Hall H tip is pay attention to the Twitters, you never know when you'll luck out at the last minute like we did!!
Title: Re: Chances of getting into Hall H on Saturday by yourself.
Post by: Joel23d on February 26, 2015, 05:35:22 PM
Thank you all so much for the help. :). This is my first time attending comic con on Saturday and Hall H. And I'm kind of nervous lol
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Zero on February 26, 2015, 05:40:12 PM
Moved this thread from the "General Discussion" to "Programming, Panels, and Lines."

I may merge this thread into the "Hall H: When do you need to be there?" thread (located here: http://friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=1567.0) at some point.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Hi does anyone have any advice and tips on how to attend Hall H on Saturday? I got a ticket to Saturday it would be my first time going on Saturday and to Hall H ever. Does anyone know what time I should be in line for Hall H? I love in LA. I really want to go to the Marvel and Dc movie panels. Also is the wait worth it?
Title: Re: Chances of getting into Hall H on Saturday by yourself.
Post by: Zero on February 26, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thank you all so much for the help. :). This is my first time attending comic con on Saturday and Hall H. And I'm kind of nervous lol

^__^d  You're welcome.


I'm going to merge this thread to the other Hall H thread you created, Joel, since the topics are fairly similar.  (It'll make it easier to read and search for answers later on when they're merged together.)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: SiddFinch on February 26, 2015, 08:32:06 PM
My two cents:

Don't ever share on the internet the time you plan to start lining up. People will be looking around for a consensus on when people get there and just line up before that time... so you're shooting yourself in the foot. Or maybe I'm paranoid  :P

As far as if it's worth it: I say absolutely. I've been to the con the past two years. 2013 I did Hall H Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. 2014 I was there Friday and Saturday. I'd rather wait in one extremely long line and then see non-stop cool stuff all day in panels, than wait in several lines all day long on the show floor itself.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: DaveG on February 27, 2015, 03:54:50 AM
Agree with all of the above suggestions.  If you are arranging to hook up with friends for Hall H, do not post your arrangements anywhere in a public forum.  I do not think it's paranoia that people scour SDCC sites looking for clues as to when people will line up and then make sure to get there an hour or more earlier. 

Although, it has also gotten to the point where people are now arriving before CCI will even let you start a line and that is causing all sorts of new problems.  It's like watching a real life equivalent of thousands of people trying to hit a server at the same time and watching it crash.  In this case it's thousands of people trying to get to the head of a line at the same time and causing CCI rules to crash.  Watch twitter, as rules can change at a moments notice.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sideproject on February 27, 2015, 08:31:54 AM
Do all the "big" events happen in Hall H? This is my first time going to SDCC and while I don't feel like I HAVE to attend anything specific, there are things I'd like to sit in on if I can... but I don't want to spend my entire trip waiting in Hall H's line. 

So... Walking Dead, GoT, Dr. Who, probably all in Hall H?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on February 27, 2015, 08:36:31 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So... Walking Dead, GoT, Dr. Who, probably all in Hall H?

Yes. However there are also some big panels in Ballroom 20 and even 6BCDF. Cable channels like Adult Swim can take over the Indigo Ballroom for a day.  There are also large offsite events/exhibits.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: DaveG on February 27, 2015, 09:20:42 AM
Whenever I get a chance I think I'm going to update this spreadsheet to include the 2014 panels.  It shows the day/time/location for all the TV and movie panels for 2012 and 2013.  It has some data for 2014, but still needs to be updated.  It will give you a good indication of what panels are typically in what rooms and on what days, since there are definite trends.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dWZVIYX7Id48M6P9ymfXtuniXH6UtOGqmwaVw_nuhe4/edit#gid=884116652
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: krday on February 27, 2015, 11:52:07 AM
My tip whenever it comes to lining up for Hall H for any day is social media. Make sure you're following the correct people on Twitter. Follow different SDCC bloggers, SDCC regulars, etc. They are bound to provide updates on the lines. Also, search up different Hall H/SDCC related hashtags on Twitter and Instagram. We've come to the point in time where the first thing people do, almost instinctively, is to tweet/IG/take a photo of where they are if it is considered "the place to be", which in this case is the Hall H line. Looking up the hashtags on Twitter and IG will lead to these images and posts, usually containing as close to a real time update as you can get to the status of the line. I always used social media to determine when was a good time to line up. I noticed different landmarks in people's Hall H line photos to see where the end of the line is. I always used that Assassin's Creed boat/any of the boats as one of my landmarks as the halfway point in line (not really sure if it is the halfway point, but that point usually netted me a decent seat in Hall H).

As for the restrooms in line, just have someone next to you in line save your spot. Make sure you let them know you're going to the restroom. The best restrooms to use are in the hotels nearby. The public restroom in line has been pretty bad for the simple fact that there hasn't been a light in there for the last two years I used it.

As for if lining up is worth it, that's up for you to decide. When lining up for Hall H, keep in mind that you have to dedicate a ton of time in the day to line up. You will most likely be missing out on other events throughout the day while you stay in line. I'm a huge TWD fan, and I've always Hall H'd on Friday for TWD, and I always felt like seeing the trailer for a new season like a few minutes before they release it online to the world makes it worth it for me. Yea, I know, crazy.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sideproject on February 27, 2015, 01:36:38 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
My tip whenever it comes to lining up for Hall H for any day is social media. Make sure you're following the correct people on Twitter. Follow different SDCC bloggers, SDCC regulars, etc.

Searching by hashtags will be easy enough, but if you have any particular people you'd recommend to following on twitter, I'd appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: krday on February 27, 2015, 02:28:03 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Searching by hashtags will be easy enough, but if you have any particular people you'd recommend to following on twitter, I'd appreciate it. :)

The best one and most helpful one by far is @HallHLine. They provide updates often when the time comes about the Hall H line. They also retweet updates from others which frequently includes pictures and such. I don't think you need to follow anyone but them. They helped me a ton whenever I wanted to line up. I only lined up for Fridays and Sundays, never did Saturday, but this twitter was my go to source. It let me just stay in the hotel room and relax until I saw an update from them showing how far along the line was.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: angel_k on February 27, 2015, 10:13:09 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
My two cents:

Don't ever share on the internet the time you plan to start lining up. People will be looking around for a consensus on when people get there and just line up before that time... so you're shooting yourself in the foot. Or maybe I'm paranoid  :P

This this this.  I will never publicly share what time I'm getting in line.  When I arrange to meet people I don't know there my first question is "what time are you WILLING to be in line" and then if it matches mine we arrange a time to meet via private messages.  It sounds paranoid, but I've watched it increase by 1-2 hours every year since 2011 to the point you have to waste most of your previous day to get in.  The wristband thing didn't help with Saturday, though perhaps it helped with the other days.  I don't know.  I avoided Hall H last year.  I usually go on Sunday for Doctor Who/Supernatural, but last year... I needed the sleep, though apparently there were empty seats on Sunday morning because there was no Doctor Who.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Do all the "big" events happen in Hall H? This is my first time going to SDCC and while I don't feel like I HAVE to attend anything specific, there are things I'd like to sit in on if I can... but I don't want to spend my entire trip waiting in Hall H's line. 

So... Walking Dead, GoT, Dr. Who, probably all in Hall H?

Everything you listed, yes.  Though lots of amazing things happen in Ballroom 20 too.  Hall H has everything you listed, plus Marvel and Supernatural and, in the past, the Hunger Games movies.  If Star Wars comes it'll probably be there too which honestly will make Hall H Saturday a nightmare and I feel bad for anyone wanting to get into that room that day.

Personally I know I'll never get into Hall H for Saturday for Marvel.  I'm fine with that.  I love MCU but the enormously long wait is too much for me, especially since I want to be in there on Sundays.  So you kind of have to decide if it's worth it for you.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: FlamedLiquid on March 01, 2015, 03:05:53 PM
Movie panels are usually always in Hall H.....unless it's like Sharknado. :p

Dr. Who and Supernatural are probably going to be in hall h on Sunday like past years and Game of Theines and Walking Dead on Fridays. 

The lines tend to get worse every year and also on the demand of the panels. Last year was pretty big with the cast of Avengers 2 and Antman. If there is a Star  Wars panel this year be prepared to line up Friday morning for Saturday's panels. :p

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: mdla on March 02, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This this this.  I will never publicly share what time I'm getting in line.  When I arrange to meet people I don't know there my first question is "what time are you WILLING to be in line" and then if it matches mine we arrange a time to meet via private messages.  It sounds paranoid, but I've watched it increase by 1-2 hours every year since 2011 to the point you have to waste most of your previous day to get in.  The wristband thing didn't help with Saturday, though perhaps it helped with the other days.  I don't know.  I avoided Hall H last year.  I usually go on Sunday for Doctor Who/Supernatural, but last year... I needed the sleep, though apparently there were empty seats on Sunday morning because there was no Doctor Who.

Everything you listed, yes.  Though lots of amazing things happen in Ballroom 20 too.  Hall H has everything you listed, plus Marvel and Supernatural and, in the past, the Hunger Games movies.  If Star Wars comes it'll probably be there too which honestly will make Hall H Saturday a nightmare and I feel bad for anyone wanting to get into that room that day.

Personally I know I'll never get into Hall H for Saturday for Marvel.  I'm fine with that.  I love MCU but the enormously long wait is too much for me, especially since I want to be in there on Sundays.  So you kind of have to decide if it's worth it for you.

If they actually handed out wristbands as people got in line, it would be the perfect system.  Unfortunately, when you start handing them out at 1 AM and don't condense the line until around 1:30-2, it defeats the whole purpose of the wristband system.  If they could just:
1) Hand out wristbands as folks got in line and
2)Promise no condensing between 12-6 AM, it would make the process so so so much better.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sideproject on March 02, 2015, 11:23:30 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
2)Promise no condensing between 12-6 AM, it would make the process so so so much better.

Condensing? Sorry- new to all of this and I don't understand what you mean by this.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on March 02, 2015, 12:28:15 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Condensing? Sorry- new to all of this and I don't understand what you mean by this.


At first, people are spread out in the line. People are talking, sleeping, and all that. Taking up more space then needed. So it makes the line look REALLY long. In order to help save space and all that, they'll tell people to move in and condense.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: SamTurtledove on March 02, 2015, 12:31:44 PM
http://sdccblog.com/2013/06/i-am-hall-h-a-guide-to-the-biggest-stage-at-comic-con/

"First, it all depends on the time of day. Early in the morning, SDCC security allows folks in line a little more space for their belongings — sleeping bags, chairs and such — but when the line is getting ready to move they tell people to pack it up and close the gaps between themselves and their fellow geek brethren. That’s what we commonly refer to as line condensing."

The blog estimated the line from the beginning to the marina at under 2 miles! 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sideproject on March 02, 2015, 12:36:55 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
http://sdccblog.com/2013/06/i-am-hall-h-a-guide-to-the-biggest-stage-at-comic-con/

"First, it all depends on the time of day. Early in the morning, SDCC security allows folks in line a little more space for their belongings — sleeping bags, chairs and such — but when the line is getting ready to move they tell people to pack it up and close the gaps between themselves and their fellow geek brethren. That’s what we commonly refer to as line condensing."

The blog estimated the line from the beginning to the marina at under 2 miles!

Thanks for the link! It sounds like as people leave Hall H once they've seen the panel they wanted that more people are allowed in. Has this been anyone's experience? I don't feel like I would NEED to be front row and center for anything. I just might want to be in the room for some of the panels.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on March 02, 2015, 12:37:41 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thanks for the link! It sounds like as people leave Hall H once they've seen the panel they wanted that more people are allowed in. Has this been anyone's experience? I don't feel like I would NEED to be front row and center for anything. I just might want to be in the room for some of the panels.

Yes, people leave but depending on the day/panels, not a lot of people leave.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Mel on March 02, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
Hall H makes it easy to stay all day. They sell food in there and have bathrooms in there.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sefton42 on March 02, 2015, 02:10:24 PM
And the last couple years they've given out passes to sneak out during panels that are less interesting.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Emerald_Mom on March 02, 2015, 04:49:23 PM
Condensing= the need for deodorant   ::)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: ironmima on March 03, 2015, 01:04:55 AM
Wasn't there some sort of controversy during the Hall H line for Saturday panels last year? I've read that people started lining up even before Friday panels were over, which was against Con rules, and that some bloggers pressured security to make the lines legitimate? And this made the lining up process even more complicated and tiring for everyone.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: DaveG on March 03, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
Yeah, it seemed like there was a lot of drama around the Saturday lines last year.  All I know is that I left Hall H in the middle of the Game of Thrones panel on Friday and ended up behind a couple hundred other people.  By the time the GOT panel was done, the line had already doubled (and that's before they let all their friends join them).  That's another reason I wish they'd hand out wristbands right away.  By the time they did start handing them out the number in front of me grew from around 200 to 500.  They gave people WAY too much time to get on the phone and text everyone they knew to join them.  Very frustrating.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on March 03, 2015, 05:58:51 AM
Yes. There was drama last year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: dancetomusic on March 03, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
That's another reason I wish they'd hand out wristbands right away.  By the time they did start handing them out the number in front of me grew from around 200 to 500.  They gave people WAY too much time to get on the phone and text everyone they knew to join them.  Very frustrating.
I think it would get even worse if they did decide to hand out wristbands right as you lineup.

You could go get all of your group to stand in line for a minute at noon on Friday, instantly get a wristband, and then technically only need 1 person from your group to stay in line at all times until Saturday morning.
So that would be way too easy. You could be walking around doing whatever you wanted on Friday with a Saturday Hall H Group A wristband on, as long as you've got a friend holding your spot for you. That would encourage a lot more people to do it, and make the wristbands go a lot faster. And the line would still end up doubling or more as it gets later, I think that's unavoidable.

I think it's smart that they wait until after the day's programming is over to handout wristbands. But, I do think there should be some more staff involvement in making and maintaining the official Hall H line - no matter how early it starts - so that there is less drama over all that.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: FlamedLiquid on March 03, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I think it would get even worse if they did decide to hand out wristbands right as you lineup.

You could go get all of your group to stand in line for a minute at noon on Friday, instantly get a wristband, and then technically only need 1 person from your group to stay in line at all times until Saturday morning.
So that would be way too easy. You could be walking around doing whatever you wanted on Friday with a Saturday Hall H Group A wristband on, as long as you've got a friend holding your spot for you. That would encourage a lot more people to do it, and make the wristbands go a lot faster. And the line would still end up doubling or more as it gets later, I think that's unavoidable.

I think it's smart that they wait until after the day's programming is over to handout wristbands. But, I do think there should be some more staff involvement in making and maintaining the official Hall H line - no matter how early it starts - so that there is less drama over all that.

Pretty much this. If you're going to wait in line then I don't see the issue of waiting a while to get your wristband. Atleast you now get the leeway of getting to leave for a while once you get your wristband. I think it worked out ok for what it was last year but wasn't expecting the line to be so long before 8 pm Friday.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 03, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
I do think they should hand out wristbands as you get in line - but I also think they should NOT allow an official line to form until the previous day's panels have finished.

I know that's very difficult for them to do, maybe impossible, but I remain convinced that unless they manage to do that, people will be lining up for Saturday on Wednesday within five years.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: YouThinkMeMad on March 03, 2015, 01:01:30 PM
SDCC is their own worse enemy when it comes to rules because they never enforce them.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 03, 2015, 01:47:29 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
SDCC is their own worse enemy when it comes to rules because they never enforce them.

I agree. That's the part that drives me nuts.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: ironmima on March 03, 2015, 05:28:14 PM
With the Civil War panel (plus maybe the new Spider-Man), it's going to be crazy at Hall H this year. And with Star Wars, it's going to be chaos.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on March 04, 2015, 09:32:20 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Hall H makes it easy to stay all day. They sell food in there and have bathrooms in there.
Classifying that stuff as "food" seems tenuous at best.  Some of the worst pizza EVER (I've always packed my own food for Hall H days)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on March 04, 2015, 09:39:17 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If you're going to wait in line then I don't see the issue of waiting a while to get your wristband. Atleast you now get the leeway of getting to leave for a while once you get your wristband. I think it worked out ok for what it was last year but wasn't expecting the line to be so long before 8 pm Friday.
IMO...

Once you get a wristband, especially the way they did it last year where the bands were 'tiered' based on how far back you were, it is absolutely asinine to have to wait in line overnight.  I'm 100% fine waiting in line until late evening/night to get a wristband, but why do I need to wait in line and sleep outside when I've already got a wristband?  If I truly don't care about a primo seat in Hall H, and just want to be there to see footage, it would be nice to wait for a wristband, be back in line by a specific time the next morning, cap the line to ONLY people with wristbands, and then let people take their changes with seating.  Let the people at the front who have the "A" wristbands stay the night and try to get the primo seats: or anyone else who wants to try to get awesome seats.  Those who don't care about being able to see RFJ up close can show up in the morning with our wristbands and get whatever seats in the back that are left.  It would take slightly more work on CCI's part, but I think it would be optimal for all. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on March 04, 2015, 09:39:59 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
SDCC is their own worse enemy when it comes to rules because they never enforce them.
So, so (frustratingly) true
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 04, 2015, 09:40:32 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Classifying that stuff as "food" seems tenuous at best.  Some of the worst pizza EVER (I've always packed my own food for Hall H days)

I don't think it's that bad. It's Freschetta pizza, and tastes just like the Freschetta you get from the grocery store freezer and then bake in your oven. So not the best in the world, but fine enough if you're hungry.

The prices make me faint, but I pay them every year. My one day in Hall H, I'm getting myself some pizza.... ;)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on March 04, 2015, 09:42:59 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I do think they should hand out wristbands as you get in line - but I also think they should NOT allow an official line to form until the previous day's panels have finished.

I know that's very difficult for them to do, maybe impossible, but I remain convinced that unless they manage to do that, people will be lining up for Saturday on Wednesday within five years.
If that long.  That was something that really annoyed me last year.  Besides the absolute stupidity of getting in line 24 hours before a panel (and thus missing out on a full day of doing stuff), the fact that CCI seemingly just let them do it is stupid.  If CCI sets the rules, they should enforce them: even if it means "rules are in place for the protection of all: violation of rules will mean loss of SDCCI badge." 

Someone DIED several years back because they were violating CCI rules and CCI was not enforcing them!  CCI just needs to simply follow their own rules before things get (even more) way out of hand
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on March 04, 2015, 09:46:25 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
With the Civil War panel (plus maybe the new Spider-Man), it's going to be crazy at Hall H this year. And with Star Wars, it's going to be chaos.

Not to mention WB/DC craziness (SUPERMAN v BATMAN/JUSTICE LEAGUE) on top of whatever else we don't even know yet!  WB has 'gone big' the last several years, and with so much on the line with DC they will have a HUGE panel again PLUS the likely Fox X-MEN: AGE OF APOCALYPSE panel!  Saturday will potentially be a day chock-full of quality comicbook movie panels ON TOP OF all of the other potential cool stuff
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 04, 2015, 09:52:12 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If that long.  That was something that really annoyed me last year.  Besides the absolute stupidity of getting in line 24 hours before a panel (and thus missing out on a full day of doing stuff), the fact that CCI seemingly just let them do it is stupid.  If CCI sets the rules, they should enforce them: even if it means "rules are in place for the protection of all: violation of rules will mean loss of SDCCI badge." 

Someone DIED several years back because they were violating CCI rules and CCI was not enforcing them!  CCI just needs to simply follow their own rules before things get (even more) way out of hand

Agree completely. I mean, we're rehashing discussions we've already had, but I absolutely believe that CCI needs to start enforcing rules and confiscating badges.

I wouldn't bet money that they're going to, though.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: DaveG on March 04, 2015, 10:12:43 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If that long.  That was something that really annoyed me last year.  Besides the absolute stupidity of getting in line 24 hours before a panel (and thus missing out on a full day of doing stuff), the fact that CCI seemingly just let them do it is stupid.  If CCI sets the rules, they should enforce them: even if it means "rules are in place for the protection of all: violation of rules will mean loss of SDCCI badge." 

Someone DIED several years back because they were violating CCI rules and CCI was not enforcing them!  CCI just needs to simply follow their own rules before things get (even more) way out of hand

How much more out of hand can we get from someone dying?  I really agree with all these comments.  I do not think there is any one magic solution that will satisfy everyone.  No matter what rules CCI puts in place there will be a contingent of people who will loudly complain.  But if they would just enforce rules, I think a lot of people would at least feel a little better.  I think my #1 pet peeve at Comic Con is watching people break rules and get away with it. 

You're always going to have some minority who break rules just for the thrill or challenge.  But I really believe that percentage is much higher at SDCC just because people know you can get away with it or even if caught there is no consequence.  Of course enforcing the rules will also lead to more complaints...from the people breaking them.  I have no problem with that.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: semigeekgirl on March 04, 2015, 10:22:31 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
How much more out of hand can we get from someone dying?  I really agree with all these comments.  I do not think there is any one magic solution that will satisfy everyone.  No matter what rules CCI puts in place there will be a contingent of people who will loudly complain.  But if they would just enforce rules, I think a lot of people would at least feel a little better.  I think my #1 pet peeve at Comic Con is watching people break rules and get away with it. 

You're always going to have some minority who break rules just for the thrill or challenge.  But I really believe that percentage is much higher at SDCC just because people know you can get away with it or even if caught there is no consequence.  Of course enforcing the rules will also lead to more complaints...from the people breaking them.  I have no problem with that.

Well, and as we've also said before, when a large percentage of people breaks the rules b/c they know there's no enforcement, it becomes really hard not to join them. I'm a rule-follower by nature and inclination, but I will break the rules if following them puts me at a major disadvantage.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: DaveG on March 04, 2015, 10:26:46 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Well, and as we've also said before, when a large percentage of people breaks the rules b/c they know there's no enforcement, it becomes really hard not to join them. I'm a rule-follower by nature and inclination, but I will break the rules if following them puts me at a major disadvantage.

This.  I am totally a rule follower, but the only place I can recall ever breaking a rule is at SDCC after watching dozens of other people break them and jump in front of me.  I don't think I've ever broken a rule to gain an advantage, but I've felt forced to break rules just to maintain my current position.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 04, 2015, 10:32:04 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This.  I am totally a rule follower, but the only place I can recall ever breaking a rule is at SDCC after watching dozens of other people break them and jump in front of me.  I don't think I've ever broken a rule to gain an advantage, but I've felt forced to break rules just to maintain my current position.

Yes, that's exactly how I feel as well! And it frustrates me to no end.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Mel on March 04, 2015, 10:36:28 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This.  I am totally a rule follower, but the only place I can recall ever breaking a rule is at SDCC after watching dozens of other people break them and jump in front of me.  I don't think I've ever broken a rule to gain an advantage, but I've felt forced to break rules just to maintain my current position.
Yep. I have the tightest sphincter in the world and believe in hard rule following. You just can't do it at SDCC though or you WILL lose out. It's the single most frustrating thing about SDCC. They just have too little pro staff of any kind to enforce much.

They rely in volunteers and bussed in "security" to police things. Those people are all often clueless and unwilling to put themselves on the line to make people behave. I wouldn't either.

Just last year volunteering to hand out bags at T&C was traumatizing!! No one would just take the bag they were given and kept trying to get a different one. They sent in a pro hardass security guy to scream at US for not being tougher with attendees and yelling at them to move it. Overall, it sucks. LOL.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Ghost6 on March 05, 2015, 12:01:28 AM
Lol.   I promise to take whatever bag is given to me this year!  They should pair down their multitude of styles and offer 5 styles...one for each day and call it quits. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 05, 2015, 05:49:41 AM
They started being hardasses about the bags a couple of years ago at the Sails. That was when you started to see lots of people just stopping in the middle of the area (between badge handout and the Preview Night lineup) and trading. I was disappointed last year, because the one bag I wanted (Batman 66) wasn't being given out at the Sails, but only downstairs to pros. I got two other ones that were somewhat popular (can't remember what they were now). But when we went back outside, I saw a bunch of people leaving the pro registration with Batman bags. So I went up and started asking, and sure enough, one guy was eager to trade his Batman 66 for one of the two I had. And then his friend asked to trade for the other one. So I ended up with two Batman 66 bags!

Moral of the story: take the bag you are given and trade.

(Caveat: Unless you get a Mike Tyson bag. No one wanted that bag. We ended up with a ton of them at the Sunday night swag trade.)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on March 05, 2015, 07:02:12 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

(Caveat: Unless you get a Mike Tyson bag. No one wanted that bag. We ended up with a ton of them at the Sunday night swag trade.)

Was that the bag they actually pulled from badge pick up area and started giving away extra at the WB booth?  I think I remember them handing out that bag when I picked up my TV Guide issues.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Chris on March 05, 2015, 07:12:37 AM
Some of the WB designs have baffled me.  No one wanted the Tyson one and for the 2nd or 3rd Hobbit, it was just the logo with no graphic.

There is a ton or great Hobbit promotional art that would have made that bag more popular.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 05, 2015, 08:55:28 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Was that the bag they actually pulled from badge pick up area and started giving away extra at the WB booth?  I think I remember them handing out that bag when I picked up my TV Guide issues.

Yes, that's the one. There was a lot of blowback when they announced that design, give Mike Tyson's criminal record. So they quietly pulled them from badge pickup and they were only given out at the WB booth.

Still ended up with 2 of them though. Ugh.

Chris, I agree, the Hobbit bag last year could have had better graphics.

To get (vaguely) back on topic... The big bags from badge pickup make good mats to sit on while waiting for Hall H. Particularly if you are smashing Mike Tyson's face into the dirt. ;)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on March 08, 2015, 05:20:49 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Was that the bag they actually pulled from badge pick up area and started giving away extra at the WB booth?  I think I remember them handing out that bag when I picked up my TV Guide issues.

My friend got a batman 66 bag from the sails pavilion on preview night, so they didn't just all go to Pros.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FBS on March 08, 2015, 07:08:38 AM
I got Batman 66 from Town And Country.
The majority of bags there were iZombie. Awful design for a show that seems lost already.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on March 08, 2015, 09:57:31 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
My friend got a batman 66 bag from the sails pavilion on preview night, so they didn't just all go to Pros.

We picked our badges up in early afternoon (about 1pm) so it's possible they changed which bags were being handed out where later in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: lidlesseye on March 27, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
IMO...

Once you get a wristband, especially the way they did it last year where the bands were 'tiered' based on how far back you were, it is absolutely asinine to have to wait in line overnight.  I'm 100% fine waiting in line until late evening/night to get a wristband, but why do I need to wait in line and sleep outside when I've already got a wristband?  If I truly don't care about a primo seat in Hall H, and just want to be there to see footage, it would be nice to wait for a wristband, be back in line by a specific time the next morning, cap the line to ONLY people with wristbands, and then let people take their changes with seating.  Let the people at the front who have the "A" wristbands stay the night and try to get the primo seats: or anyone else who wants to try to get awesome seats.  Those who don't care about being able to see RFJ up close can show up in the morning with our wristbands and get whatever seats in the back that are left.  It would take slightly more work on CCI's part, but I think it would be optimal for all.

Honestly I think the wristbands should be distributed as people get in line but have check in time based on tier. (kind of like a DLR or WDW fast pass). The A wristbands are already doing to wait in line overnight because they want the primo seat but everyone else can check in at the time that group lines up. If you miss your check-in time you still get in line but not with your group. (End of the line in whatever group that's checking in at the moment). 

All you'd have to do is mark the people checked in (mark/stamp/RFID/whatever the badge or wristband so you know who came in on time).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: thawk on April 15, 2015, 01:46:27 PM
I'm not new to SDCC but I am new to the Hall H line (never spent time on it) - can someone outline the wristband process and timing that unfolded last year?  People are mentioning snipits, but I'd love to get some detail to try and better understand what might happen for this year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 15, 2015, 01:56:16 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm not new to SDCC but I am new to the Hall H line (never spent time on it) - can someone outline the wristband process and timing that unfolded last year?  People are mentioning snipits, but I'd love to get some detail to try and better understand what might happen for this year.

This thread should give you a good idea of how it went: http://friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=3733.0
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: thawk on April 15, 2015, 02:08:56 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This thread should give you a good idea of how it went: http://friendsofcci.com/forum/index.php?topic=3733.0

Perfect - thanks!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: susanml10881 on April 15, 2015, 02:36:54 PM
That was a mess and it isn't worth camping out anymore. I wonder if they are going to try to put in new rules again this year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 15, 2015, 03:20:34 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
That was a mess and it isn't worth camping out anymore. I wonder if they are going to try to put in new rules again this year.

I hope so! IMHO, the wristband thing backfired big time last year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on April 15, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I hope so! IMHO, the wristband thing backfired big time last year.

Totally agree. But CCI usually moves slowly. If we were betting, my bet would be on the return of the wristband system, with slightly changed policies that will improve some things and disimprove others. And that will have no effect on earlier and earlier lineup times.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 15, 2015, 04:00:50 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Totally agree. But CCI usually moves slowly. If we were betting, my bet would be on the return of the wristband system, with slightly changed policies that will improve some things and disimprove others. And that will have no effect on earlier and earlier lineup times.

I'd love to see randomized entrance times (i.e. randomize whom from group A goes in first, whom from Group B, etc.) which would disincentivize early lineups. But such a thing would be difficult to implement, so I suspect it would never happen. ;)

But you're right, they'll make some tweaks, and some things will be better while others are worse.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: imcla on April 19, 2015, 03:57:20 PM
Unless they do something that really improves it I'll probably end up skipping Hall H this year for the 2nd year in a row. Only thing they had there that interested me last year was Game of Thrones, this year will probably be the same, as much as I'd love to see that panel (and I'll admit, most importantly to me, get the free swag), but I don't think only one panel is worth the hustle that is camping out.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: catvonawesome on June 11, 2015, 10:15:31 AM
What are people's thoughts on camping out for Thursday? I've already done my share of camp outs so I'm not doing it. But its the boyfriend's first time and he really wants to see Doctor Who and Conan hosting the Lionsgate panel.

I told him to be prepared to be in line early Wednesday night, that we would keep an eye on it after badge pick up and dinner. Are people thinking that's going to be a crazy early camp out or...?

(And please move this if it isn't the right place for this talk.)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 11, 2015, 05:31:08 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
What are people's thoughts on camping out for Thursday? I've already done my share of camp outs so I'm not doing it. But its the boyfriend's first time and he really wants to see Doctor Who and Conan hosting the Lionsgate panel.

I told him to be prepared to be in line early Wednesday night, that we would keep an eye on it after badge pick up and dinner. Are people thinking that's going to be a crazy early camp out or...?

(And please move this if it isn't the right place for this talk.)

Theres always a crazy camp out for Doctor Who. Not as bad as Marvel but still.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: catvonawesome on June 11, 2015, 05:39:39 PM
Quote
Theres always a crazy camp out for Doctor Who

I camped out for the Doctor Who/Supernatural Sunday morning a few years ago. It was crazy.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: lalv_99 on June 13, 2015, 11:49:53 PM
So I've been looking through threads and I couldn't find the answer to this.  Sorry if it's common knowledge or was answered somewhere else.

About what time do they start doing the line condensing in the morning?  And if someone in your party isn't there when it starts are they out of luck or is it okay for them to rejoin the group in line?

Also, what time do they generally start letting people into Hall H?  Just wondering if there will be time for someone to store chair/sleeping/bags/etc in a car or hotel room close by.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: dancetomusic on June 14, 2015, 01:25:37 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So I've been looking through threads and I couldn't find the answer to this.  Sorry if it's common knowledge or was answered somewhere else.

About what time do they start doing the line condensing in the morning?  And if someone in your party isn't there when it starts are they out of luck or is it okay for them to rejoin the group in line?

Also, what time do they generally start letting people into Hall H?  Just wondering if there will be time for someone to store chair/sleeping/bags/etc in a car or hotel room close by.
I don't have as much Hall H line experience as some others here do, but I will try to help from what I remember of last year!

I think they start line condensing around 6am.

It is okay if someone from your party is not there for condensing (they would already have their wristband, if CCI uses that system again), although I wouldn't recommend it because then they have to find you in a new spot!
And once the line is fully condensed in the morning it is very crowded, which makes it hard for someone to squeeze back in line with you, and also harder to have a bunch of blankets and big bags! Like if you're camping overnight there is enough room for everyone to lay on blankets and in sleeping bags, etc, but once it's condensed then there is very little space (especially in the front section of the line under the tents). So personally I'd say try to have all your extra stuff packed up and put away before condensing, and have everyone in your group be in line so you can move together.

The panels start at 10am. They let you inside at 9am, sometimes a little earlier. But with both the line condensing and the going in, the staff is great with communicating in advance what will be happening at what times, so just pay attention to that and you will be fine!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: lalv_99 on June 14, 2015, 02:23:01 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I don't have as much Hall H line experience as some others here do, but I will try to help from what I remember of last year!

I think they start line condensing around 6am.

It is okay if someone from your party is not there for condensing (they would already have their wristband, if CCI uses that system again), although I wouldn't recommend it because then they have to find you in a new spot!
And once the line is fully condensed in the morning it is very crowded, which makes it hard for someone to squeeze back in line with you, and also harder to have a bunch of blankets and big bags! Like if you're camping overnight there is enough room for everyone to lay on blankets and in sleeping bags, etc, but once it's condensed then there is very little space (especially in the front section of the line under the tents). So personally I'd say try to have all your extra stuff packed up and put away before condensing, and have everyone in your group be in line so you can move together.

The panels start at 10am. They let you inside at 9am, sometimes a little earlier. But with both the line condensing and the going in, the staff is great with communicating in advance what will be happening at what times, so just pay attention to that and you will be fine!

Thank you!  It's nice to know what to expect
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on June 14, 2015, 04:26:24 AM
I think last year for Saturday they said they were going to start condensing at 5 am.

There really is no set time when they start letting people in.  The panels have a tendency to start at different times every day, and at some point they just start letting people in.  I think sometimes it has to do with the length of the line; if it's really, really long, they'll start letting people in a bit earlier.

This best thing to do when you get in line is to ask one of the security/staff people and see if they know.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on June 14, 2015, 07:46:53 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So I've been looking through threads and I couldn't find the answer to this.  Sorry if it's common knowledge or was answered somewhere else.

About what time do they start doing the line condensing in the morning?  And if someone in your party isn't there when it starts are they out of luck or is it okay for them to rejoin the group in line?

Also, what time do they generally start letting people into Hall H?  Just wondering if there will be time for someone to store chair/sleeping/bags/etc in a car or hotel room close by.

I'll add that line condensing takes awhile so if you're further back in line (ie across the street from the tents), you have about 30 minutes from when you hear that front of the line is being condensed and by the time you're actually moving. And it's not all at once, you move in stops and starts for another good while as they move people across the street.

I've never had a problem with people rejoining the line or joining the line again myself after the condensing (last year, I went back at 5:30 am Saturday morning to take a shower when my group was by the marina and came back around 7 am when my group was under the tents). You just have to know where your group got moved to. Definitely take all your sleeping bags etc back to your room as soon as possible in the morning.

It's definfiely at least an hour between when you finish condensing and when Hall H starts getting filled. So you have time to do things - but it feels much riskier since if your group goes in and you just happened not to be there, there's no recourse.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicskyline on June 14, 2015, 07:55:04 AM
I think the condensing depends on how quickly the line forms. The purpose of it is to make more room, so the line for the Friday panel may end up doing a first condensing at 2am and another at 5am or something. My suggestion would be to just bring your stuff back after the early morning condensing. You'll have to carry it as you walk, but then once everyone in your party knows where you are in line, someone can sneak out the stuff without the anxiety of thinking the line might move on them again. You'll also have plenty of warning that the condensing is happening, so you'll be able to gather all of your stuff together for the walk. The volunteers/staff are good about giving everyone a solid 10-15 minute warning, unless you're up at the front of the line, in which case it's not as big of a concern anyway.

As for filling the hall, they don't start that until an hour or maybe an hour and a half before the first panel. So going anywhere at 6-7am isn't really a concern.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DianaOfThemyscira on June 14, 2015, 07:08:29 PM
OK - So the Star Wars Hall H Panel is apparently going to be on Friday in Hall H - I've never done HH before, and I'm debating doing a half camp out, depending on what time of day the panel is.

Would midnight Friday AM be too late?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicskyline on June 14, 2015, 07:28:55 PM
Maaaybe not? But the fact that it's Star Wars means that there might be, like, next level lines this year - especially if GOT and TWD are there too.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on June 14, 2015, 07:50:17 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
OK - So the Star Wars Hall H Panel is apparently going to be on Friday in Hall H - I've never done HH before, and I'm debating doing a half camp out, depending on what time of day the panel is.

Would midnight Friday AM be too late?

I think it depends a little on what is with Star Wars that day in Hall H. I think for the Marvel/DC line up last year on Saturday (and someone may remember better) I think the last people who got wristbands had gotten in line around 10 pm.  I know people who were in line at a little after 9 pm were in the very last group.

If you just want to make sure you're in the hall and don't care about where you're sitting, I would suggest just keeping an eye on twitter that evening. I think people were getting wristbands who got in line all the way by the Hyatt.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 14, 2015, 11:43:04 PM
The problem I forswe is where the friday line will start because it'll fork before the thursday panels are done.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 14, 2015, 11:57:46 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The problem I forswe is where the friday line will start because it'll fork before the thursday panels are done.

IIRC the people lining up for marvel last year made a new line across the street on the hilton sidewalk near the grassy area.  I don't foresee the line for thursday getting too far past the tents once the panels start rolling as most people will be waiting for Doctor Who and won't be leaving making lining up for Hall H moot like last year for marvel as no one was leaving Hall H once inside and most people didn't bother lining for hall H as a result.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: black350 on June 17, 2015, 02:59:11 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The problem I forswe is where the friday line will start because it'll fork before the thursday panels are done.

Yeah it always happens coz they do not have enough staff to keep the area clear.  I really hope they fined tuned the wrist band system this year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on June 17, 2015, 01:33:17 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I think it depends a little on what is with Star Wars that day in Hall H. I think for the Marvel/DC line up last year on Saturday (and someone may remember better) I think the last people who got wristbands had gotten in line around 10 pm.  I know people who were in line at a little after 9 pm were in the very last group.

If you just want to make sure you're in the hall and don't care about where you're sitting, I would suggest just keeping an eye on twitter that evening. I think people were getting wristbands who got in line all the way by the Hyatt.

We got in line at 10:15pm and were about 80 people behind the last person to get a wristband, which they finished passing out around midnight. However, we still made it into Hall H, though we were among the last 30 people or so to get in, and they let us in about 30 minutes after the first panel started.
When we first got in line, we were behind the Marriott. There was a concert going on in the park (on the "island" that Joe's Crab Shack is on), so after that was over, around 12:30am they moved the line into the park to condense it. We ended up sleeping right behind Joe's Crab Shack.
Security woke us up at 5:30am, and they started condensing the line about 6:30am. But we were pretty far back, so the condensing up front probably started earlier than that and took awhile before it reached us.
I'm going to guess that 10pm may be too late for Star Wars...
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: goingthedistance on June 22, 2015, 07:22:22 PM
So the official Hall H "rules" have not been released yet but it's reasonable that they will be similar this year concerning prohibited items.  To paraphrase Pirates of the Caribbean, it seems the rules are "more like guidelines" for some things. Would a small inflatable camping pad be considered an "inflatable" and therefore banned or is it allowed since it takes up the same or less space than a sleeping bag?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 22, 2015, 10:49:48 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So the official Hall H "rules" have not been released yet but it's reasonable that they will be similar this year concerning prohibited items.  To paraphrase Pirates of the Caribbean, it seems the rules are "more like guidelines" for some things. Would a small inflatable camping pad be considered an "inflatable" and therefore banned or is it allowed since it takes up the same or less space than a sleeping bag?

I don't think it's just how much room the item takes up but also how easy it is to move. Bringing anything inflatable could be a hassle to carry around of you are moving at a quick notice.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: evanarose on June 23, 2015, 02:57:03 AM
Hall H sounds like survival of the fittest! I was hoping to avoid it, but the panels I want to go are there!

Which I didn't expect- vampire diaries has been in ballroom 20!
So, I guess my question is for Sunday morning...how has the hall h line been? As Sunday it starts to slow down..apparently? I know supernatural is on afterwards, according to comic con blog anyways. Heroes reborn might be a big line up panel?

I'm guessing the line for warner bros with the flash, gotham, arrow, etc might be a camp out one? Actually I was only into seeing supergirl lol
But unfortunately I didn't get preview night, so I can't see it then. It's on 8-11PM apparently though on a Saturday night.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 23, 2015, 03:05:38 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm guessing the line for warner bros with the flash, gotham, arrow, etc might be a camp out one? Actually I was only into seeing supergirl lol
But unfortunately I didn't get preview night, so I can't see it then. It's on 8-11PM apparently though on a Saturday night.

It was a walk in last year. I'd expect it to be the same. If you want to save time you can sail the bay of pirates as it holds the super girl pilot.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on June 23, 2015, 03:08:58 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So the official Hall H "rules" have not been released yet but it's reasonable that they will be similar this year concerning prohibited items.  To paraphrase Pirates of the Caribbean, it seems the rules are "more like guidelines" for some things. Would a small inflatable camping pad be considered an "inflatable" and therefore banned or is it allowed since it takes up the same or less space than a sleeping bag?

People had pads for their sleeping bags last year and it didn't seem to be a problem.  Plus people are pretty spread out once they start going to sleep.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicskyline on June 23, 2015, 07:46:48 AM
Sunday was walk-in last year, and I think it will be the same thing year. However, if you want a GOOD seat, you have to get in line early. If you just want to get in the room, I'm sure you'll be able to walk in whenever, especially if what you want to see is after SPN.

You don't have to camp if you just want the DC TV shows panel. Most will clear out after the earlier panels to make ample room, if last year was any indication. If you want to get in the earlier stuff on Saturday as well, though, then that's different. There is just so much to do on Saturday night that many people will not make Hall H a priority from 8-11pm. Off of the top of my head, there's the Nerdist podcast, the Masquerade Ball, a Nerd HQ public party, and that special Rogue Edition screening of X-Men Days of Future Past. I mean, there's a chance that I'm wrong and the room will fill up this time, maybe because Arrow won't have its own panel, so keep your ear to the ground during the con, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 23, 2015, 07:52:04 AM
DC Entertainment Saturday night will be a walk-in.  You'll even get a decent seat.  Last year 75-80% of the room cleared out after the last afternoon panel.  It'll be the same this year.  The Supergirl pilot has been available online for quite some time and will also be aired during preview night.  So anyone really dying to see it will already have seen it.  Stephen Amell has stated he might not be at SDCC, so that also takes away from the panel.  Yes, there will be a lot of fans there, but as stated, with everything else going on, you won't have trouble getting in.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on June 23, 2015, 07:56:54 AM
And some of us who camped out for Hall H will be crashing once the movie panels are over.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on June 23, 2015, 08:24:15 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
And some of us who camped out for Hall H will be crashing once the movie panels are over.

That's definitely what happened last year. We were in Hall H Saturday, and my husband wanted to stay for the WB stuff, but after 14 hours in line and a full day of panels, I just needed to get out of that room.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: rushfanyyz on June 23, 2015, 08:34:41 AM
The DC panel could have a lot of people walking in/out at random times too since there are a lot of other things going on. I'm going to the 7:30 Nerdist podcast, but was going to swing by Hall H afterwards (so around 8:45ish) and see if I could get in, hoping that maybe they hadn't done the Arrow or Flash portion yet.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 23, 2015, 11:17:40 AM
If I remember last year correctly, I think they'll do a screening first, probably Supergirl.  The panel was really just about 40 people sitting in 4 rows of chairs that I don't think they would make them do during the screening (not that comfortable).   So I'm guessing someone will come out to kick things off, we'll have the Supergirl pilot, then they will bring the casts out for a Q&A panel.  If they do any other screenings, they would likely let the cast go and then do the screening.  They did that last year for Constantine.  Any short clips would probably be aired during the panel portion.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on June 23, 2015, 12:05:26 PM
Yes, last year they showed The Flash pilot, then the Gotham pilot, then some Constantine footage, and an Arrow teaser. Then they brought out the cast members.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicaz on June 23, 2015, 12:18:53 PM
I really hope CCI cracks down on unofficial lines this year. This could be a whole different tips and tricks thread if they do, as we wont even have to think about the lines until night anyway
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 23, 2015, 12:21:31 PM
Part of me hopes they crack down on unofficial lines, but mostly I just want them to apply some enforcement to whatever rules they establish.  The most frustrating thing is to analyze their rules, come up with a best plan and then have to throw it out because the rules aren't being enforced or they change them on the fly.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on June 23, 2015, 12:56:20 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I really hope CCI cracks down on unofficial lines this year. This could be a whole different tips and tricks thread if they do, as we wont even have to think about the lines until night anyway

I hope you're right and they do!
But I've become an Eeyore on this issue, and I don't really believe that they will.  :(
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 23, 2015, 05:55:37 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Part of me hopes they crack down on unofficial lines, but mostly I just want them to apply some enforcement to whatever rules they establish.  The most frustrating thing is to analyze their rules, come up with a best plan and then have to throw it out because the rules aren't being enforced or they change them on the fly.

I completely agree. State some rules and enforce them!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sylaw on June 23, 2015, 07:47:24 PM
How hard is it to get in Hall H panel on Sunday? I haven't tried to get in Hall H for the past few years but I really want to see the Heroes panel. I want to know if I have a chance at getting in and how early I should get it line.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 23, 2015, 07:56:27 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
How hard is it to get in Hall H panel on Sunday? I haven't tried to get in Hall H for the past few years but I really want to see the Heroes panel. I want to know if I have a chance at getting in and how early I should get it line.

usually a walk in
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 23, 2015, 08:23:44 PM
Yah with Doctor Who nlt on Sunday this year the only real big draw for Sunday is Supernatural. But still it shouldn't be too bad.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: dancetomusic on June 23, 2015, 09:00:04 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Yah with Doctor Who nlt on Sunday this year the only real big draw for Sunday is Supernatural. But still it shouldn't be too bad.
Supernatural was not a big draw on Sunday last year. I have a feeling it might get a little more of a better reception there this year, but I still wouldn't say you need to camp to get in because of it!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on June 24, 2015, 09:17:34 AM
We walked in 2 min before Supernatural last year. There was still plenty of room.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicaz on June 24, 2015, 09:46:00 AM
I doubt Saturdays Hall H will be a walk in by night-time unless they make DC earlier in the day. It seems to be the only huge Hall H draw for saturday, unless a ton of people are camping overnight for Legendary and plan on leaving after that
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 24, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
I don't know about Saturday this year.  DC properties are a big draw, but last year it seemed like most people were there for Marvel and DC was just a bonus.  Not sure how many of those will be willing to camp out without Marvel. 

Also, I think the extensive line camping last year did start to get to some people by Saturday.  A lot of heads were nodding off during some panels.  People may adjust  their schedules accordingly. 

I think the other factor this year is Star Wars.  It has suddenly turned Friday into the "IT" day for Hall H campers.  How many will be willing or able to do it back to back?  It gets tiring and no matter how well you think you sleep outdoors, it's not the same and downright a waste when they wake you up at 3am to condense the line.  Thankfully, the wristband policy allowed some people to grab a few hours rest in their hotel.  Can't wait to see what surprise might be in store when they publish this year's line policies.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on June 24, 2015, 10:08:15 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I doubt Saturdays Hall H will be a walk in by night-time unless they make DC earlier in the day. It seems to be the only huge Hall H draw for saturday, unless a ton of people are camping overnight for Legendary and plan on leaving after that

I do think that a lot of people use Saturday as their last "night out" of the Con, though. And while the DC TV shows are popular, only Supergirl is new (plus it's been extensively leaked AND will show on preview night). I think the night stuff will probably still be walk-in, although maybe it will fill up quicker than last year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 24, 2015, 10:23:20 AM
Plus Amell may not be at the DC panel.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Devorah on June 24, 2015, 12:25:17 PM
Hall H Wristband Policy Returns to San Diego Comic-Con 2015

http://sdccblog.com/2015/06/hall-h-wristband-policy-returns-to-san-diego-comic-con-2015/ (http://sdccblog.com/2015/06/hall-h-wristband-policy-returns-to-san-diego-comic-con-2015/)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on June 24, 2015, 12:40:46 PM
I'm kind of relieved that the wristband is back. Otherwise, can you imagine how much that Friday morning line would swell with line cutters? Now, to see what their rules are this time around, and to what extent they'll actually be enforced...
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: betaprotocol on June 24, 2015, 12:43:39 PM
Remember this from last year?
https://crazy4comiccon.wordpress.com/2014/07/30/why-i-quit-the-san-diego-comic-con-unofficial-blog-last-year/
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 24, 2015, 12:43:55 PM
Generally, I'm pleased that the wristbands are back.  I think the biggest negative for me is not knowing the details until next week.  Any plans that involve camping out can only be tentative until final rules are announced.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicaz on June 24, 2015, 01:26:06 PM
Wow people on the unofficial blog comments are PISSED about the wristbands being back.

What do you guys think now... did they hurt or help?
Is stopping line cutters worth it knowing people now camp earlier and earlier? Is it really only unofficial line or stampedes?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DRWHO42 on June 24, 2015, 01:28:10 PM
I wished it would be in place for the other line as well.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 24, 2015, 01:29:50 PM
I'm sure the only people pissed are those that don't want to line up early and make sacrifices. Well it depends how die hard you are.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on June 24, 2015, 01:35:53 PM
I think people were still going to line up super early regardless of the wristband. At least with the wristband, people can't just hop in line with their friends on the morning of and shut out hundreds, maybe thousands of fans who slept there overnight that would have gotten in otherwise. It seems like the mentality is "What time did you get in line last year in order to get in?" and people generally base their line entry time on that. So even if there weren't wristbands this year, I think a lot of people would still base their line entry time this year on last year. Obviously, this would be adjusted based on what's actually in the room. But it seems like the required time to get in line just keeps getting earlier and earlier, unfortunately...
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on June 24, 2015, 01:39:54 PM
The wristbands definitely improve the morning part, b/c you can switch off to shower, etc, and still know you're getting in.

But they didn't help at all with unofficial lines, line cutting (before wristbands got to you), or panic-driven earlier lineups. Personally, I think those are all bigger problems than the morning.

So I don't mind the wristbands, I just don't think they help all that much.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Gage on June 24, 2015, 02:20:48 PM
I had a question about bathroom passes in Hall H. I've attended the past 8 years, but I've hardly ever left my seat once I'm settled. Does anyone know if there is a pass that allows you to exit outside the convention center, or do they not honor any passes at the main Hall H door? I know they allow you to go to the lobby, but not sure about outside the lobby.

I've done this in Ballroom 20, as they don't really care where you go, and the bathroom isn't in the same facility.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: lowgun on June 24, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
Hall H has bathrooms inside. Can't remember if they also allowed you to leave and come back with a pass
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Gage on June 24, 2015, 02:24:49 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Hall H has bathrooms inside. Can't remember if they also allowed you to leave and come back with a pass
Right, I'm using bathroom pass as a general term. Not sure what they do when you want to go to the lobby.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 24, 2015, 02:25:52 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I had a question about bathroom passes in Hall H. I've attended the past 8 years, but I've hardly ever left my seat once I'm settled. Does anyone know if there is a pass that allows you to exit outside the convention center, or do they not honor any passes at the main Hall H door? I know they allow you to go to the lobby, but not sure about outside the lobby.

I've done this in Ballroom 20, as they don't really care where you go, and the bathroom isn't in the same facility.

theres a hall h bathroom pass. The bathrooms inside hall h get backed up with people all the time. Just have to come back before the panel is over.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Gage on June 24, 2015, 02:28:56 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
theres a hall h bathroom pass. The bathrooms inside hall h get backed up with people all the time. Just have to come back before the panel is over.
Does that pass only let you exit into the Hall H lobby, or can you exit to the park area outside? And then re-enter obviously.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 24, 2015, 02:30:14 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Does that pass only let you exit into the Hall H lobby, or can you exit to the park area outside? And then re-enter obviously.

you exit and enter by the ADA entrance into lobby B.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Gage on June 24, 2015, 02:38:13 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
you exit and enter by the ADA entrance into lobby B.
Okay, so you can't go outside then I take it.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: frgx on June 24, 2015, 02:46:43 PM
It sounds like they're getting rid of those Hall H bathroom passes--

"There are restrooms in Hall H. When you are facing the stage, the restrooms are to your right. If you leave the hall-for any reason-you may not be allowed back in or you may have to get in line to get back in. Again, because of Fire Marshal rules, this policy will be strictly enforced, with no exceptions."

http://comic-con.org/toucan/17-get-ready-comic-con-2015-programming-schedule
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 24, 2015, 03:02:58 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Okay, so you can't go outside then I take it.

Lobby B leads into the exhibit hall and outside....

Looks like they're getting rid of the passes so its moot anyways.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 24, 2015, 03:24:08 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Looks like they're getting rid of the passes so its moot anyways.

I'm glad. Last year there were people abusing those passes and using them to switch off.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 24, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm glad. Last year there were people abusing those passes and using them to switch off.

Agreed.  They started using them for legitimate purpose of not having people wait in long bathroom lines.  But then people started abusing the reason they were created.  Happens all the time.  The few will ruin it for everyone else.  I'm also glad if they close off that abuse.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Angie on June 24, 2015, 11:55:11 PM
I've looked through the other wristband thread but couldn't find the answer. Once you get the wristband can your entire party leave the line? And if so, do you end up back where you were when you return. For example, my party leaves after getting an A wristband and returns at 8am. Do we get back in line with the A's or get to the back of the line?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Zero on June 25, 2015, 12:00:08 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've looked through the other wristband thread but couldn't find the answer. Once you get the wristband can your entire party leave the line? And if so, do you end up back where you were when you return. For example, my party leaves after getting an A wristband and returns at 8am. Do we get back in line with the A's or get to the back of the line?

At the moment, CCI hasn't issued a statement on whether or not they'll use the wristband system again for Hall H (and Ballroom 20).

However, at Comic-Con 2014, one person in your party had to stay in at all times.  (You can switch this person around and take shifts, but at least one person had to be there, or you lose your spot in line.)


EDIT:
CCI has confirmed that they will be using the wristband system for Hall H.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 25, 2015, 12:00:23 AM
At least one person of your group would need to stay in line. If you do this you can return to the same spot.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: imcla on June 25, 2015, 12:00:33 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've looked through the other wristband thread but couldn't find the answer. Once you get the wristband can your entire party leave the line? And if so, do you end up back where you were when you return. For example, my party leaves after getting an A wristband and returns at 8am. Do we get back in line with the A's or get to the back of the line?

IIRC one person in your party needs to stay in line to save the spot, if your entire party leaves when you come back you join the end of the wristband line (after all the Ds)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on June 25, 2015, 12:04:11 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
At the moment, CCI hasn't issued a statement on whether or not they'll use the wristband system again for Hall H (and Ballroom 20).


They confirmed today in their Toucan blog post that they would at least be using it for Hall H, though they didn't mention B20.

http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/17-get-ready-comic-con-2015-programming-schedule

"The Toucan Tracker wristband policy returns after it's successful first year. Wristbands will be given out for the first panel of each day in Hall H. We will post further information about the wristbands as a Toucan Tip next week."
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Angie on June 25, 2015, 12:04:32 AM
Thanks everyone. Also I believe the Toucan blog update did say wristbands will be back for Hall H!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Zero on June 25, 2015, 12:37:16 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
They confirmed today in their Toucan blog post that they would at least be using it for Hall H, though they didn't mention B20.

http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/17-get-ready-comic-con-2015-programming-schedule

"The Toucan Tracker wristband policy returns after it's successful first year. Wristbands will be given out for the first panel of each day in Hall H. We will post further information about the wristbands as a Toucan Tip next week."

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thanks everyone. Also I believe the Toucan blog update did say wristbands will be back for Hall H!

Yes, that's correct.  I apologize for the confusion, everyone.  Good catch.

(My mind is spinning with so many e-mails to catch up for... Let's call it "pre-con work" for another convention, ha ha.  >__<)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 25, 2015, 03:43:43 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
They confirmed today in their Toucan blog post that they would at least be using it for Hall H, though they didn't mention B20.

While they certainly could prove me wrong, I don't think they'll use the wristband system for B20.  The overnight line for B20 is really for everything except badges and Hall H.  Part of the reason they use the wristbands is to measure when they've reached capacity for Hall H and that wouldn't apply to that line, since someone could be in that line for B20, autographs, exhibit hall or any other panel room.  They'll probably do like last year and hand out cards once you break off into the B20 line that are used to measure when that room has reached capacity.  But that doesn't happen until after they let you into the building; usually around 6am or thereabouts.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 25, 2015, 06:07:50 AM
David Glanzer has said that they're not too excited about enacting wristbands for B20 until they have a solid system for Hall H.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 25, 2015, 09:01:59 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
David Glanzer has said that they're not too excited about enacting wristbands for B20 until they have a solid system for Hall H.

I totally agree with and support that position. 

While late linecutting can be an issue for B20, it's usually much less of an issue because they move you to the back of the building about the same time the sun comes up.  If you weren't in line by then, you're too late.  And now with the "card system" I assume they might use again, it also wouldn't be possible for someone to show up late and join a friend further up in line because just like the wristbands the cards change the further back in line you are.

I was also glad last year the lines were run a little better toward the front in terms of "fast walkers" trying to improve their position between the time they let you in the building and when you queue up out back.  I know one person tried to jump from about 30th in line to the front 5 doing this.  By morning, everyone knows everyone else at the front of the line and what position they were in.  Let's just say this person was quickly reminded where they really needed to line up.  Fortunately, the person returned to their original spot in line or I think things were going to get ugly.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 25, 2015, 09:12:19 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I was also glad last year the lines were run a little better toward the front in terms of "fast walkers" trying to improve their position between the time they let you in the building and when you queue up out back.  I know one person tried to jump from about 30th in line to the front 5 doing this.  By morning, everyone knows everyone else at the front of the line and what position they were in.  Let's just say this person was quickly reminded where they really needed to line up.  Fortunately, the person returned to their original spot in line or I think things were going to get ugly.

(https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi129.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp206%2Ftransmutejun%2FJoffrey.jpg&hash=38831fbac244d74acf989bd501e4a578731fd48c)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: eserei27 on June 25, 2015, 08:07:30 PM
This year will mark my 8th at SDCC, and I've braved the Hall H line before (though the wristbands are new to me as I did not venture into Hall H last year) but unfortunately my health situation has changed and this will be my first year attending with a disabled badge. Any tips for Hall H strategy in the disabled line? Where does the line start, and how early should I be there to get a decent spot?  Any help would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: litex2x on June 26, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
I think the earliest I can get into the Hall H line for Friday would be sometime between 10:00 - 10:30 pm on Thursday. Is this early enough to at least get in?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Zero on June 26, 2015, 06:41:09 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I think the earliest I can get into the Hall H line for Friday would be sometime between (redacted) on Thursday. Is this early enough to at least get in?

Generally, on the forums, we don't mention specific times for when you plan to start lining up for Hall H. The thing about lining up is that it's best NOT to mention what time you will be lining up, especially on public areas such as forum communities, twitter, or facebook.  If you do, others will see it, panic about lines, and then go earlier and earlier than that.  (You might have noticed that no one really has mentioned anything about timing for lines because of this.)

At the moment, going with your best judgement (and then scoping out what the lines look like the night before) is the best advice that I can offer.

^__~
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sylaw on June 27, 2015, 10:25:55 AM
Now that Saturday is opening with the WB panel, does anyone think there's a chance of getting into the Hateful Eight panel slightly before it starts?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 27, 2015, 10:34:55 AM
I myself am wondering how hard it'll be to get into Hall h after the WB stuff. I'd like to see the Fox panel.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: dancetomusic on June 27, 2015, 11:33:38 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I myself am wondering how hard it'll be to get into Hall h after the WB stuff. I'd like to see the Fox panel.
Same, but I can't make it to Hall H until right after the Fox panel starts. I'm thinking since it's directly after Joss Whedon, and it's the last panel of the night before the DC stuff, there will be plenty people who are done and don't want to see either of those things and leave. I hope so, anyway!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FBS on June 27, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
I'm wondering what it will be like queue wise to get in for the first panel.
Are we thinking long lines down to the harbour? Or just on the sidewalk?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: imcla on June 28, 2015, 07:19:17 PM
I know I should wait for the wristband policy for this, but I was wondering how I could form a camping out group for the disabled line for Saturday. I'd like to be there Friday night (not mentioning times because I know it's not recommended) but my aunt can't sit on the floor or on foldable chairs (they're too low for her), and she can't go back to the hotel or come back to line by herself (so much for the "one person in your party must stay in line at all times policy") so I'm thinking forming a group would be our only option to get into the WB panel on Saturday...
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SamTurtledove on June 28, 2015, 11:59:51 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
It sounds like they're getting rid of those Hall H bathroom passes--

"There are restrooms in Hall H. When you are facing the stage, the restrooms are to your right. If you leave the hall-for any reason-you may not be allowed back in or you may have to get in line to get back in. Again, because of Fire Marshal rules, this policy will be strictly enforced, with no exceptions."

http://comic-con.org/toucan/17-get-ready-comic-con-2015-programming-schedule

The bathroom/re-entry passes will probably stay.  They're useful for getting food or dropping off small items to the baggage check area.  The text in the 2013 Events Guide (pre-wristbands) was the same:

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.



Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: frgx on June 29, 2015, 01:16:13 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The bathroom/re-entry passes will probably stay.  They're useful for getting food or dropping off small items to the baggage check area.  The text in the 2013 Events Guide (pre-wristbands) was the same:

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Lol.

I just checked my old Event Guides from 2010 on, and they all have that same language. (Except the earlier ones say bathrooms instead of restrooms).
"Strictly enforced", yeah right.  ::)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SamTurtledove on June 29, 2015, 03:09:43 AM
Last year, the Tracker/wristband info posted after the Sunday programming post.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SamTurtledove on June 29, 2015, 10:41:14 AM
http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/22-hall-h-plaza-park-lines

"Comic-Con will once again be utilizing the “Toucan Tracker” Wristbands for the first panel of each day in Hall H. More information on that will appear tomorrow (Tuesday, June 30) here on Toucan."
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on June 29, 2015, 11:03:47 AM
While I haven't done an exact comparison, the rules so far seem to mirror what they were last year.  It will be interesting to see if any changes are made to the Wristband process and I would also like to see them clarify any rules around the "Everything Else" line.  If they don't, it will confuse a lot of people who will assume the same rules apply to both.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: thawk on June 30, 2015, 10:10:47 AM
Wristband rules for 2015 are up:

http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/23-return-of-hall-h-toucan-tracker-wristbands
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 30, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
OMG! General seating!!!!!

I mean, you can leave and come back! You don't have to camp out overnight!!!!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Barneybp on June 30, 2015, 10:32:17 AM
Well this is a game changer!

I'm very excited about this. I've never been in Hall H for a "big' panel - always just the walk-ins. I would definitely opt for the "go home and sleep in the hotel you paid for" option.

Course there's the opportunity cost of how much of the current day's programming you're going to waste sitting in the "next day" line.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SteamPink on June 30, 2015, 10:45:12 AM
It sounds like at least one person needs to hold your place in line, though.  It's not a total walkaway, right?

"You may leave someone to hold your place in line, and return before 7:30 AM to meet them. You will be allowed to join them in line as long as you have your wristband."

Still, one person is easier than the whole group staying.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: rushfanyyz on June 30, 2015, 10:46:56 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
It sounds like at least one person needs to hold your place in line, though.  It's not a total walkaway, right?

"You may leave someone to hold your place in line, and return before 7:30 AM to meet them. You will be allowed to join them in line as long as you have your wristband."

Still, one person is easier than the whole group staying.

I'm reading it as you can leave completely and then return before 7:30, you will just be at the end of the wristbands (which in theory still guarantees you a spot).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Az_Rael on June 30, 2015, 10:47:45 AM
I think you have the option to not leave anyone to hold your place and just jump in the end of the line for your color the next morning. 

Allowing the lines to start the prior day morning, tho.  That's still gonna take some hours of camping.   
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Barneybp on June 30, 2015, 10:48:34 AM
Yes, I definitely read it as option three means you leave completely and be back by 7:30 AM.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on June 30, 2015, 10:50:01 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I think you have the option to not leave anyone to hold your place and just jump in the end of the line for your color the next morning. 


"3. You may leave, get a good night’s rest, and return to the end of the wristband line before 7:30 AM. Please keep in mind that you must be there before 7:30 AM."

No - you don't have to leave anyone in line, but if you don't, you'll go all the way to the back of the wristband-holders (all colors), but still before anyone without a wristband.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on June 30, 2015, 10:56:52 AM
So what time will the Next Day Line start?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on June 30, 2015, 11:04:32 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So what time will the Next Day Line start?

I don't think it specified which kinda makes me nervous.  I would rather lose time in line at night than time in line during the day.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: catvonawesome on June 30, 2015, 11:10:53 AM
They specified what time wristbands would start. Which I know isn't the same thing as the line, but the wristband station is in such a place that I'm not sure a line could physically be there all day. I wish there was clarification on that. Ie; "lines for wristbands cannot start more than 1 hour prior to wristbands being handed out" or something like that.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on June 30, 2015, 11:11:18 AM
Does this mean that the line can start as early as 12:01 am the day before?  That could really shift the lineup time for Friday and Saturday. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: lolwatsyk on June 30, 2015, 11:13:00 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I don't think it specified which kinda makes me nervous.  I would rather lose time in line at night than time in line during the day.

Exactly what I was thinking. Theoretically the NDL could be capped at any point in the day and it's worse now because it's technically an official unofficial line. The fact that they didn't mention keeping people away until a particular time makes me worried.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Does this mean that the line can start as early as 12:01 am the day before?  That could really shift the lineup time for Friday and Saturday.

It sounds like they're giving wristbands out up until 7:30am on the day of the panel, so if anyone gets there at 12:01 it's actually the "Day of" line instead of "Next Day Line." But by that logic people can indeed start lining up at 7:30am the day before. :(
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Mario Wario on June 30, 2015, 11:15:32 AM
If they, CCI, wanted to end camping for good, by doing somewhat of a general seating now, they should have also created a section/seat number for each person, so that way you know you are guaranteed a seat in the section you get. The wristband says seat 10 in section A or Green, boom fine. Come back before 730am. I always find it silly when I hear they want camping to end, but they still somewhat  encourage it with certain rules. They should also start it sooner-giving out wristbands-so people don't have to waste their time in line waiting. Good to know the time, but you have to wait for it too long that day.

Anyway, since this thread is about tips, etc., I'm pretty sure it has been said already, but as soon you see the line forming for the next day, drop everything and just line up. Also have your email that has the barcode for your badge on you-printed or on phone-so they can see it. Been seeing that it will work if you can't pick up your badge right away. If not true, hopefully someone will confirm it or not.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicskyline on June 30, 2015, 11:20:04 AM
Sounds to me like people are either going to chill and get in line after Hall H finishes for the day (heh), or else they'll have to pick between Friday and Saturday now. If they get in for Friday, the line will likely be capped by the time they get out of Star Wars at 6:30.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on June 30, 2015, 11:21:20 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If they, CCI, wanted to end camping for good, by doing somewhat of a general seating now, they should have also created a section/seat number for each person, so that way you know you are guaranteed a seat in the section you get. The wristband says seat 10 in section A or Green, boom fine. Come back before 730am. I always find it silly when I hear they want camping to end, but they still somewhat  encourage it with certain rules. They should also start it sooner-giving out wristbands-so people don't have to waste their time in line waiting. Good to know the time, but you have to wait for it too long that day.

Wouldn't that just push camping further back in the day. So people are just waiting earlier to get a guaranteed wristband. only way camping stops is if its all random.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: RSilvaConFan on June 30, 2015, 11:25:31 AM
The changes in the wristband policy for 2015 is definitely an improvement - but I wish the wristband distribution would start at about 7:30 or 8:00pm (just after closing time of the exhibit hall) instead of having to wait until  8:30 pm or later each night to get the wristband - I can see hordes of people gathering between 7pm and 8:30 to 10pm (depending on the day).

Also, I hope it is OK to use the restroom and come back to the same spot in line :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 30, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
Yes, I don't understand why they are handing out wristbands so late. What is wrong with 5 pm, 6pm, 7 pm?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicskyline on June 30, 2015, 11:33:23 AM
Then it really WOULD be asking someone to choose. This way, they're at least saying IN THEORY that you could line up after the panels are over for the day - even if that's not how it will work in practice.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Mario Wario on June 30, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Wouldn't that just push camping further back in the day. So people are just waiting earlier to get a guaranteed wristband. only way camping stops is if its all random.
A start time for lining up for the next day would probably work, which I see they are doing already. Once ppl start going into HH for Thursday, the new line for Friday (since this is the most sought after day for HH; best day to use) should begin. It would be up to the staff to enforce not lining up-along with the blog saying you cannot line up early nor camp the day before to get the word out. Of course, I can see someone say then it will have people run to that area  to line up all at once. Nah, just have extra staff on hand to control the crowd. If you don't have not enough staff, then it will probably get messy.

I do see CCI learning on what to do about HH and lining up, however, if they haven't already, may need outside help to see what will work best for future SDCCs. Btw, you will be missing out a lot if you want to do HH on Friday-Thursday for lining up and Friday for all day in HH. I also expect the wristbands for Friday to be gone quickly. I doubt you can get one after doing the con on Thursday. The reason: a super long line. Never know but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 30, 2015, 11:50:31 AM
What's to stop a whole group from leaving once they get wristbands and just blending in with the crowd anywhere they want later around 7:30 instead of going to the end of the line? This could cause issues.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on June 30, 2015, 11:59:16 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
What's to stop a whole group from leaving once they get wristbands and just blending in with the crowd anywhere they want later around 7:30 instead of going to the end of the line? This could cause issues.

Probably the crowd they're trying to blend in with at 7:30...  I think a bigger issue will be large groups designating one person to camp so, in the rejoin period, you get that entire group legitimately (rule supported) returning to a top spot in the line in front of those who spent all night waiting.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: lolwatsyk on June 30, 2015, 12:02:28 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Probably the crowd they're trying to blend in with at 7:30...  I think a bigger issue will be large groups designating one person to camp so, in the rejoin period, you get that entire group legitimately (rule supported) returning to a top spot in the line in front of those who spent all night waiting.

But at least that's the same as last year. I just wish they'd put a cap on the group size. (so no allowing more than say 3 people to rejoin the group at a time). Has this big a big issue in the past, with group sizes?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on June 30, 2015, 12:03:49 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
What's to stop a whole group from leaving once they get wristbands and just blending in with the crowd anywhere they want later around 7:30 instead of going to the end of the line? This could cause issues.

From what I've observed anecdotally, these lines police themselves fairly well.  Plus, I'm assuming the line will have been moved into the chutes/tents at that point and there's no easy way to blend into that line.

Ofc you're still going to have the issue you've always had of a group leaving one person behind and rejoining in the morning. But that's par for the course in my opinion.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SoCalNerdGal on June 30, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
But at least that's the same as last year. I just wish they'd put a cap on the group size. (so no allowing more than say 3 people to rejoin the group at a time). Has this big a big issue in the past, with group sizes?

Not in my experience but groups are much more organized now.  Everyone who wants up front would still have to camp.  I think the camping has just shifted to day versus night.  You don't get a wristband if you aren't in that line.  You won't be at the front of that line if you haven't made an effort to be the first.  I think people will be less likely to tolerate coming and going in larger groups now because this is day time line waiting.  Everyone will have other things they could be doing that is better than waiting in line.  "Hold my spot while I go play mini golf" isn't the same as "I'm going to get a migraine if I don't eat and take an hour's nap at the hotel."  I think this is going to have an interesting impact on the social response of the line considering it directly places two needs in competition; Hall H line versus all other con activities.  Before, it was mostly Hall H versus hotel sleep and night parties. (with the exception of last year).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicskyline on June 30, 2015, 12:13:42 PM
Well, people rejoining the line in the morning has always been an issue. At least this year, those waiting would understand the rules and that they should expect that to happen. Hopefully the security will reiterate these rules when giving out the wristbands. Also, presumably those same people would be able to see how many people were in front of them when wristbands were passed out, so they shouldn't be surprised in the morning when all of those people rejoin.

I assume there has to be rope or chutes or something delineating the lines so that it isn't a mass of people all crowding in/trying to cut at 7:30.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Vapors on June 30, 2015, 01:48:01 PM
I've given up trying to enter Hall H at this point in my life, but one question, for people in the NDL, will they have canopies/umbrellas for people?  Because I imagine people will be out there in the middle of a hot, summer day waiting for the distribution and that's gotta be miserable.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 30, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've given up trying to enter Hall H at this point in my life, but one question, for people in the NDL, will they have canopies/umbrellas for people?  Because I imagine people will be out there in the middle of a hot, summer day waiting for the distribution and that's gotta be miserable.

You would think that would be up to the people waiting in lines themselves. More of a reason not to wait in line if you don't come prepared.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Zero on June 30, 2015, 02:24:43 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've given up trying to enter Hall H at this point in my life, but one question, for people in the NDL, will they have canopies/umbrellas for people?  Because I imagine people will be out there in the middle of a hot, summer day waiting for the distribution and that's gotta be miserable.

I actually doubt they will have canopies or tents for people waiting in line in the NDL.  (They didn't have them last year, so yeah...)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on June 30, 2015, 02:25:18 PM
Am I reading into this section of the Toucan blog on wristbands? Or does it seem it seem to indicate they won't be condensing the NDL to underneath the tents?

How does saving a spot in line work? The NDL will be grouped in “color zones”. For example, if all of your group gets a red wristband, you may hold a place for them in line overnight and they may return to meet you in the same spot   before 7:30 AM. However, if your group is not all together at the time of distribution, you may get a red wristband and your other friends get a blue wristband. They will only be allowed to line up in the blue section and may not join you in the red section. Simply put, if you want your group to enter the hall together, make sure you all get your wristbands at the same time. - See more at: http://www.comic-con.org/toucan/23-return-of-hall-h-toucan-tracker-wristbands#sthash.CDp3QAAK.dpuf

Otherwise, do you guys think they'll be condensing the line as they did the wristbands? Like they did on Friday night last year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on June 30, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
I think "same spot" just means that if you're say, the 1000th person in line, your freinds can go and rejoin you at #1000; it's about place in line, not geography.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: imcla on June 30, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Am I reading into this section of the Toucan blog on wristbands? Or does it seem it seem to indicate they won't be condensing the NDL to underneath the tents?

From what I understood they won't, the spot marked on the map will be a wristband distribution spot, once you have your wristband you can walk straight to the Hall H line, that will start under the tents or back to your hotel
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Grepdogg on July 01, 2015, 02:30:41 AM
Question:  Has it legitimately gotten this bad to get into Hall H?  In 2012 it was a 3-5 hour wait.

I don't care about front row, I don't care about asking questions, I just want to see the show and live in there for like 5 hours on Friday/Saturday.

I refuse to overnight camp and plan on getting in line at like 8-10am, do I have a chance to even get in now?

My partner and I are going and she was pretty upset when I told her about the new wait times. (I have been to SDCC three times and once with her previously).

Do we have a chance anymore?  Serious answers from fellow vets please, please tell me your personal experiences with wait times.

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on July 01, 2015, 02:36:18 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Question:  Has it legitimately gotten this bad to get into Hall H?  In 2012 it was a 3-5 hour wait.

I don't care about front row, I don't care about asking questions, I just want to see the show and live in there for like 5 hours on Friday/Saturday.

I refuse to overnight camp and plan on getting in line at like 8-10am, do I have a chance to even get in now?

My partner and I are going and she was pretty upset when I told her about the new wait times. (I have been to SDCC three times and once with her previously).

Do we have a chance anymore?  Serious answers from fellow vets please, please tell me your personal experiences with wait times.

Depends on what panel you want to see.  There are panels that will be a walk in such as pretty much all of sunday.  For Star wars and Warner Bros no chance in hell you'll get in @ 8am. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Grepdogg on July 01, 2015, 03:46:16 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Depends on what panel you want to see.  There are panels that will be a walk in such as pretty much all of sunday.  For Star wars and Warner Bros no chance in hell you'll get in @ 8am. 

Fair enough.  For example, if I wanted to see Hunger Games at 12pm on Friday, any chance if I lined up at 8am?

Now, on Friday - Star Wars(Lucasfilm) is at 530.  Are you telling me that even lining up at 8am on Friday, I will not even get in at 530pm?.  I mean, the Walking Dead and Game of Thrones are earlier at 12, 1, 230, will no one leave all day before StarWars?

On saturday Warner Bros opens up at 1030 - do I have a chance getting there at 7am?

I don't want anyone to get the idea that I don't want to put in the effort.  8 years of military deployments taught me to hurry up and wait.  I can do 4-5 hours in a line, but I am getting older, and the knees and neck are not what they used to be, so I have to pick my battles and medicate appropriately.

thanks in advance for any help you are willing to give.

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on July 01, 2015, 03:58:04 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Fair enough.  For example, if I wanted to see Hunger Games at 12pm on Friday, any chance if I lined up at 8am?

Now, on Friday - Star Wars(Lucasfilm) is at 530.  Are you telling me that even lining up at 8am on Friday, I will not even get in at 530pm?.  I mean, the Walking Dead and Game of Thrones are earlier at 12, 1, 230, will no one leave all day before StarWars?

On saturday Warner Bros opens up at 1030 - do I have a chance getting there at 7am?

I don't want anyone to get the idea that I don't want to put in the effort.  8 years of military deployments taught me to hurry up and wait.  I can do 4-5 hours in a line, but I am getting older, and the knees and neck are not what they used to be, so I have to pick my battles and medicate appropriately.

thanks in advance for any help you are willing to give.

-Doubt it since Doctor who is after hunger games

-Star wars is the panel that day if not the con almost no one is leaving hall h and the few that do only those that camped out will get in. Last Year no one left hall h in anticipation for the Marvel panel at the end of the day I'd expect the same for star wars.

-probably not since BvS and Justice League stuff is expected

You pretty much listed the biggest panels of Hall H. Long gone are the days of 3-4 hour waits for big panels expect to be camping out or at least be there in the wee hours of the morning.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on July 01, 2015, 03:59:31 AM
And honestly, the wee hours of the morning are probably too late.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 01, 2015, 05:18:29 AM
If it's that difficult for you to wait, you may prefer the playback room, or waiting at the times you suggest for Conan O'Brien standby tickets (he has Hunger Games cast on Thursday, GoT and TWD on Friday, and *possibly* WB actors on Saturday).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Grepdogg on July 01, 2015, 05:59:51 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If it's that difficult for you to wait, you may prefer the playback room, or waiting at the times you suggest for Conan O'Brien standby tickets (he has Hunger Games cast on Thursday, GoT and TWD on Friday, and *possibly* WB actors on Saturday).

I read that the Playback Room will not show any of the Movie/Show Trailers or Media, is that 100% true?  I have not attended a playback, anyone have personal experience with that?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 01, 2015, 06:44:00 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I read that the Playback Room will not show any of the Movie/Show Trailers or Media, is that 100% true?  I have not attended a playback, anyone have personal experience with that?

What you have heard is true. They will show the panel itself (cast, interviews, audience questions) but not the studio footage/trailers.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicaz on July 01, 2015, 09:05:24 AM
@Greppdog It may be worth mentioning if you haven't read up on the new policy, but if you are in line for a few hours the day before to recieve wristbands for Friday Hall H on Thursday night, you can leave and simply come back before 7:30 Friday morning and be guaranteed entry for all of Hall H Friday, given you don't leave before Star Wars has concluded
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SamTurtledove on July 01, 2015, 09:29:15 AM
That new change is great.  You may consider the disability services  if you have knee problems which could hinder camping overnight. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Grepdogg on July 01, 2015, 09:51:29 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
@Greppdog It may be worth mentioning if you haven't read up on the new policy, but if you are in line for a few hours the day before to recieve wristbands for Friday Hall H on Thursday night, you can leave and simply come back before 7:30 Friday morning and be guaranteed entry for all of Hall H Friday, given you don't leave before Star Wars has concluded

First of all, thanks for replying, I really do appreciate any and all advice - but this is what I read up on in the past 15 hours.

That policy is still being disputed.  I have read the statement and there are NUMEROUS questions and arguments regarding wristband and line.

I read that SOMEONE still has to be in the line to save the ACTUAL place in line (your wristband group).   

I also read that groups are already going to form up immediately on Thursday afternoon/morning to get the wristbands that night - at the designated overnight area closer to the harbor.

Attendees are arguing that this will "force" line campers to choose either Friday or Saturday.

At this point, I am personally fine with giving up on Hall H, but my girlfriend is going to be crushed when she sees what the current status quo is now.  The stress and pressure from Hotelapocalypse and AirBNB really tarnished the event this year.  As the schedule came out day by day, we each got more excited and back into the positive zone.  But to now read and realize that waiting 4-7 hours won't cut it anymore - makes me feel like the Comic Con is truly broken.

Think about that.  I am currently reminiscing when I only waited in lines for 3-4 hours, to sit in a hall - sleep upright through a couple panels I don't care about - and time my urinations so that I can make it back 15 minutes before a panel ends. 

Either SDCC did not raise the ticket prices enough or raised the daily allowance for admittance too much or both. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on July 01, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
The more I think about the new policies, the more concern I have about them.  I've really been supportive of the wristband policy and thought execution was the real problem.  Last year one of the most common complaints concerned the "unofficial" lines and lack of control to keep them from happening.

What Comic Con has really done with the NDL is just legitimize the unofficial line and make it official.  Think about this.

In 2013 you had to camp all night to get into Hall H.  People complained that lines were starting earlier and earlier and you had to get in line by late afternoon the previous day to get a good seat.

So in 2014 SDCC instituted the wristband policy and said they would start handing them out around 8pm the previous night.  So now people started showing up late morning or early afternoon to get in a line for wristbands.  Sure, you didn't need to sleep the night outside, but you had to give up 4-7 hours in a wristband line during the day (when more activities are going on).

So in 2015 SDCC will institute the NDL to try and control the wristband line.  What does that mean?  Who knows.  Whatever time they open up the NDL, there will probably now be unofficial lines forming to get in the wristband line even earlier.  And since they've now moved back the time to hand out wristbands the time you spend in the wristband line will grow from last year.

So at this point we will probably have unofficial lines to get in the wrist band line which lets you get into the overnight line which eventually lets you get into Hall H.  I'm at a point where I'm switching my position and would prefer that we just go back to the old practice of lining up without wristbands.  Anyone complaining about early morning line cutting should take a look at the line cutting that will occur in the line to get wristbands.  It's 3 to 4 times worse.  Yes, once you get a wristband your place in line is set, but watch this year at how many people join their friends in front of you in the NDL.  If you're toward the end of the NDL, you could spend hours in line (giving up a day of con) and never end up with a wristband.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: epicaz on July 01, 2015, 10:07:03 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
First of all, thanks for replying, I really do appreciate any and all advice - but this is what I read up on in the past 15 hours.

That policy is still being disputed.  I have read the statement and there are NUMEROUS questions and arguments regarding wristband and line.

I read that SOMEONE still has to be in the line to save the ACTUAL place in line (your wristband group).   

I also read that groups are already going to form up immediately on Thursday afternoon/morning to get the wristbands that night - at the designated overnight area closer to the harbor.

Attendees are arguing that this will "force" line campers to choose either Friday or Saturday.

At this point, I am personally fine with giving up on Hall H, but my girlfriend is going to be crushed when she sees what the current status quo is now.  The stress and pressure from Hotelapocalypse and AirBNB really tarnished the event this year.  As the schedule came out day by day, we each got more excited and back into the positive zone.  But to now read and realize that waiting 4-7 hours won't cut it anymore - makes me feel like the Comic Con is truly broken.

Think about that.  I am currently reminiscing when I only waited in lines for 3-4 hours, to sit in a hall - sleep upright through a couple panels I don't care about - and time my urinations so that I can make it back 15 minutes before a panel ends. 

Either SDCC did not raise the ticket prices enough or raised the daily allowance for admittance too much or both.

I'll try to respond to each of your points from the best of my knowlege of the new system:

-To save the actual place in line, yes. At least one person from your group and color will need to stay in line at a time in order to save your spots in that designated section. But the good part is, if you don't care about saving that exact spot, having a wristband at least will guarantee you entry as long as you show up before 7:30. Everyone returning in the morning without a saved spot would just join the end of the wristband line, which it seems a good portion will be doing.

-I would not be surprised if lines formed very early on Thursday for the wristbands that night, however how early is hard to say. We try not to throw around times as people will hear that and assume they'll need to line up then or earlier. I do know that several people are trying to form some line groups for that reason though, so everyone can just do an hour or two in line on thursday, enjoy their day, then come back when it gets close to wristband time. That way if your group snags a decent spot in the early line, it may not be so bad "waiting" in line all day if you're taking shifts.

-It may force people to choose if their whole group stays in Hall H until the end of the day with no people on the external waiting in line, as by the time Hall H ends its cutting pretty close to wristband time anyway. But as long as you have somebody waiting outside, people could just end their day of panels and join their group members.


Before the change happened, I wasn't planning on even considering Hall H. But the group system when its not overnight sounds like an improvement to me. I'm a little concerned on how it will roll out.. If the line is at capacity at 2 pm or earlier, that would be rediculous. But it'll be very hard to judge when so many people will be gone until right before the wristband time.. which is a shame. At least you will know whether or not you made it without having to camp overnight...
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on July 01, 2015, 10:24:24 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Before the change happened, I wasn't planning on even considering Hall H. But the group system when its not overnight sounds like an improvement to me. I'm a little concerned on how it will roll out.. If the line is at capacity at 2 pm or earlier, that would be rediculous. But it'll be very hard to judge when so many people will be gone until right before the wristband time.. which is a shame. At least you will know whether or not you made it without having to camp overnight...

That's really going to be the awful part though. You (or your group placeholder) will be in line for however long during the day. It'll look like you're 200th or so in line. And then, in the 90 minutes or so before wristband distribution time, everyone will rejoin their placeholders. And suddenly you'll be lucky just to get a wristband.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: xDumpweed182x on July 01, 2015, 10:39:44 AM

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
That's really going to be the awful part though. You (or your group placeholder) will be in line for however long during the day. It'll look like you're 200th or so in line. And then, in the 90 minutes or so before wristband distribution time, everyone will rejoin their placeholders. And suddenly you'll be lucky just to get a wristband.
I think at the end of the day, for most people it's going to come down to 1. Do you want to see the Star Wars panel? or 2. Do you want to see the Saturday panels?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on July 01, 2015, 10:44:59 AM
Doesn't hurt to ask.  Or offer bribes.   :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: semigeekgirl on July 01, 2015, 10:46:51 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I think at the end of the day, for most people it's going to come down to 1. Do you want to see the Star Wars panel? or 2. Do you want to see the Saturday panels?

Yes, but the bigger problem is that with this method, it becomes 1) do you want to actually experience the day of SDCC you paid for, or 2) do you want to have any hope at all of being in Hall H the next day?

Which is just sad, I think.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SamTurtledove on July 01, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
The rules http://www.comic-con.org/cci/hall-hplaza-park don't prohibit lining up at the NDL point during the day.  It's the official line marker IMO  The time stated just the time the first wristband distributed gets acquired.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on July 01, 2015, 10:58:22 AM
I'm a big fan of the policy.

Maybe I'm too optimistic but I think big groups leaving one person in line to hold their place will still be in the minority. And I think it's going to be more frowned upon by the people around you if suddenly ten people show up suddenly to take the place of one person.

Honestly, my guess is that a lot of people are just going to want a wristband and not care about their place in line. So there will be the initial line up of people who want to camp out and get front seats and then I imagine it'll slow down. If I just wanted a wristband, I wouldnt care if I'm the 1,000th person to get a wristband or the 6,000th person. So I imagine the bulk of the line would show up much later in the day and then leave to get sleep.

At least that's what I'm planning on for at least at least one day in Hall H.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on July 01, 2015, 11:09:55 AM
The problem is that once word gets out that the line for the next day has already started, it has a snowball effect.  People hear that and think "Crap, I need to go get in line now."  Then word is the line is already past the Bayfront and starting down the arena.  "Crap, now I really need to get down there now to have a chance."  Then the line is down the marina and nearly at the Marriott.  Now the line's full and it's only been open 6 hours.

What would be really nice is some guidance like "The NDL doesn't open until it's actually the day before" (i.e. you can't start lining up for Star Wars on Wednesday, or "The NDL doesn't start until the first panel for the day is let in" or "The NDL doesn't start until the Hall H line is off the marina."  That way there's at least less anxiety, and maybe mean the line starts later.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: DaveG on July 01, 2015, 11:51:34 AM
There is still going to be a limit on when they can start the NDL.  If you saw lines for Hall H last year, the entire waterfront area was lined with people all the way out past Joe's Crab Shack.  There is no place for the NDL to start until they let people into Hall H that morning.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on July 01, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
last year on Friday (for Saturday) the Hall H line didn't cap until after 10 pm. I don't think it'll get that late this year but I would be surprised if the line capped in the early afternoon. Too many people want to enjoy their con rather than stand in line.

And to echo what DaveG said, the line can't physically form until at least after the Hall H line for the current day moves past the starting point of the NDL line.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on July 01, 2015, 12:52:40 PM
Which means I think it's likely the NDL for Friday won't start until Dr. Who starts (unless a lot of people want to see Con Man), and it may not start for Saturday until Star Wars starts.  I might be wrong, but I'm envisioning a lot of people lined up hoping to get into the big panel and then giving up once it starts and they're definitely not getting in.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FlamedLiquid on July 01, 2015, 01:39:05 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
last year on Friday (for Saturday) the Hall H line didn't cap until after 10 pm. I don't think it'll get that late this year but I would be surprised if the line capped in the early afternoon. Too many people want to enjoy their con rather than stand in line.

And to echo what DaveG said, the line can't physically form until at least after the Hall H line for the current day moves past the starting point of the NDL line.

Did you line  up at 10  yourself? I lined up at 7:30 and was already far down the last color of the 4 colors. You sure it didn't cap earlier?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: jristen on July 01, 2015, 02:13:37 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Did you line  up at 10  yourself? I lined up at 7:30 and was already far down the last color of the 4 colors. You sure it didn't cap earlier?

I got in line at 4:30ish (Group B) but I had a friend in another group that didn't get in line until 10 pm on the dot (she was in a panel that didn't end until after 9). I was panicking for her but she ended up being in the last few dozen or so to get a wristband.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on July 01, 2015, 03:26:14 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Did you line  up at 10  yourself? I lined up at 7:30 and was already far down the last color of the 4 colors. You sure it didn't cap earlier?

We got in line at 10:15pm and were about 80 behind the last person who got a wristband. But we still got into the first panel. We were among the last group to get in. So yeah, I'd agree that the wristbands would have run out at those who got in line right at 10pm. Of course, none of that really matters this year with all the changes. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: ripresa on July 02, 2015, 08:06:07 AM
So we only have Thursday and Sunday tickets and I really want to see Doctor Who (Thursday).

This wristband line thing is confusing, originally I had planned to stand in line around 9 pm or so Wednesday.
But now with the NDL wristband, I'm thinking I have to camp much early during the day just to get the wristband???

How early do they let people stand in line for the wristband?

The Thursday one is being distributed at 10 pm on Wednesday.
Anyone want to join a line group with me for the wristband line?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: erictsang on July 02, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
If I don't need to see WB movies in the morning on Saturday, what are the chances there will be a mass exodus afterwards?

I really just wanna be in the Hall for WB/DC TV Saturday evening
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on July 02, 2015, 08:52:21 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
If I don't need to see WB movies in the morning on Saturday, what are the chances there will be a mass exodus afterwards?

I really just wanna be in the Hall for WB/DC TV Saturday evening

If its like last year it'll be a walk in for DC TV
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: cellophane28 on July 03, 2015, 06:07:32 AM
So do you all think Sunday Hall H will be fairly easy to get into?  My friends and I are going to the Nerdist show on Sat. evening at 10:30 pm, so we can't be in line at 11 pm for the beginning of the wristband distribution.  We'll hurry over there as soon as we can afterwards though - do you think it's still doable?  If so, would you predict the seats will be terrible or closer to the middle of the room?  We really want to see the Supernatural panel.

This is our first Comic-Con, so we are nervous but also REALLY excited :D  Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: lalv_99 on July 03, 2015, 06:34:41 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So do you all think Sunday Hall H will be fairly easy to get into?  My friends and I are going to the Nerdist show on Sat. evening at 10:30 pm, so we can't be in line at 11 pm for the beginning of the wristband distribution.  We'll hurry over there as soon as we can afterwards though - do you think it's still doable?  If so, would you predict the seats will be terrible or closer to the middle of the room?  We really want to see the Supernatural panel.

This is our first Comic-Con, so we are nervous but also REALLY excited :D  Thanks for your help!

Welcome!  It's our first SDCC as well, so we're feeling the same way you are.  And, we'll also be at that 10:30 Nerdist Podcast.

Maybe someone else can chime in with a more direct experience, but I've read quite a bit about Sunday last year being a walk-in for most of the day since Doctor Who didn't go.  I would say that it wouldn't hurt to check out the line before you head over to Nerdist, and if it doesn't seem insane, why not chance it and head back there?  Either way, good luck with everything!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SiddFinch on July 03, 2015, 06:51:05 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
So do you all think Sunday Hall H will be fairly easy to get into?  My friends and I are going to the Nerdist show on Sat. evening at 10:30 pm, so we can't be in line at 11 pm for the beginning of the wristband distribution.  We'll hurry over there as soon as we can afterwards though - do you think it's still doable?  If so, would you predict the seats will be terrible or closer to the middle of the room?  We really want to see the Supernatural panel.

This is our first Comic-Con, so we are nervous but also REALLY excited :D  Thanks for your help!

I think based on the other panels in Hall H you should be OK. I bet you'd be within the first 50% of people but really that's a total guess. My observation is that while overnight camping is becoming necessary for the big studio/movie panels, folks who are camping for the Sunday panels will mostly be the die-hards who want to get close.

What's nice is wristband distribution will happen all night long so you should have a pretty good indicator of where you are in line not long after you get there. And I've sat in the back, middle, and front sections of the hall; there aren't really any miserably bad seats in Hall H as there are giant video screens all over the place to help you see what's going on :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: imcla on July 03, 2015, 06:56:15 AM
Where your seats will be will also depending on whether you're camping out or going back to the hotel. For Sunday if you get your wristband and stay in line you probably will get good seats, but if you get group A wristbands and come back at 7:30 then they might not be so good, so I think it's up to you  :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: catvonawesome on July 03, 2015, 07:28:16 AM
Doctor Who not being paired with Supernatural on Sunday made a huge difference last year.  We got in line about 4:30/5am and were in the second chute when the line bunched.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: cellophane28 on July 03, 2015, 07:29:40 AM
Thank you all for the advice!  I feel better after hearing from the experts :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Violet on July 03, 2015, 08:57:42 AM
Last year, Supernatural was the first panel of the day. We walked in 2 minutes before, and it was only about 3/4 full, if that.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FBS on July 03, 2015, 11:23:30 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Doctor Who not being paired with Supernatural on Sunday made a huge difference last year.  We got in line about 4:30/5am and were in the second chute when the line bunched.
Yep. I got there about 5am and was in chute three.
The added bonus of queuing on the side walk, before the bunching, was Mischa ran past us on his early morning run by. Then bought coffees a bit later 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Nicodimas on July 03, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
So i have friday and Sunday tickets.

I can't wait in line without my badge? or can I can my friday badge, thursday realistically?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: susanml10881 on July 03, 2015, 06:34:00 PM
If you have your barcode print out, that works too. You don't have to have your physical badge.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SamTurtledove on July 04, 2015, 08:29:43 PM
Reposting from the guide.  Makes a great screensaver.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: angoradebs on July 06, 2015, 07:58:32 PM
I apologize if this has been addressed; I did a search within the thread but didn't really see anything that would apply. My friends are going to line up for Supernatural Sunday AM (getting wristbands Saturday night). I was planning to grab them breakfast at a place that doesn't open until 8, and bring it to them. I'm thinking that by the time I get to the convention center, they will already be inside Hall H. Will one of them be able to use a bathroom pass to come out and grab the breakfast? It would be before the first panel even starts.

Alternately, if Hall H isn't full, would I be able to get in and take them breakfast (and then immediately leave)? This is my first SDCC, and I'm not sure how the logistics of the room work. Are there workers that block people from going up to where there are no empty seats? Would my friend be able to come back to wherever I am in Hall H and grab it then go back to her seat?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: ER78A on July 06, 2015, 08:19:22 PM
I've read through most of this topic (phew it took a while), but I still am confused a bit.

I want to go to the Doctor Who Panel at 2:15 in Hall H. Should I get there before 7:30 am THAT day or Wednesday? And do I have to sit through Hunger Games in order to get to my desired panel?

I'm really new to this whole "Hall H" thing, so if I missed something crucial, please help me out.
(And no, I'm not asking for you to tell me your secret line-up time :) )

Thank you so much!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on July 06, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I apologize if this has been addressed; I did a search within the thread but didn't really see anything that would apply. My friends are going to line up for Supernatural Sunday AM (getting wristbands Saturday night). I was planning to grab them breakfast at a place that doesn't open until 8, and bring it to them. I'm thinking that by the time I get to the convention center, they will already be inside Hall H. Will one of them be able to use a bathroom pass to come out and grab the breakfast? It would be before the first panel even starts.

Alternately, if Hall H isn't full, would I be able to get in and take them breakfast (and then immediately leave)? This is my first SDCC, and I'm not sure how the logistics of the room work. Are there workers that block people from going up to where there are no empty seats? Would my friend be able to come back to wherever I am in Hall H and grab it then go back to her seat?

Its probably gonna be a walk in for Hall H all day sunday so you can leave and come back.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Angie on July 06, 2015, 08:29:25 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've read through most of this topic (phew it took a while), but I still am confused a bit.

I want to go to the Doctor Who Panel at 2:15 in Hall H. Should I get there before 7:30 am THAT day or Wednesday? And do I have to sit through Hunger Games in order to get to my desired panel?

I'm really new to this whole "Hall H" thing, so if I missed something crucial, please help me out.
(And no, I'm not asking for you to tell me your secret line-up time :) )

Thank you so much!!!!!!!!

The wristbands will be handed out at 10pm Wednesday, so you need to be in before that time. Yes you have to sit through all the panels before Dr. Who. If you leave Hall H there is no re-entry.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: angoradebs on July 06, 2015, 08:33:19 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Its probably gonna be a walk in for Hall H all day sunday so you can leave and come back.

Thank you! You've answered a lot of my questions on here; I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: ER78A on July 06, 2015, 08:36:48 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
10pm Wednesday... If you leave Hall H there is no re-entry.

Okay thank you.

However, two last questions. So once we get a wristband, we can go get a goodnight's sleep, right? And by no re-entry, do you mean no restrooms? (I know that has been asked about before, but I'm still a bit fuzzy on the details)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on July 06, 2015, 08:40:50 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Okay thank you.

However, two last questions. So once we get a wristband, we can go get a goodnight's sleep, right? And by no re-entry, do you mean no restrooms? (I know that has been asked about before, but I'm still a bit fuzzy on the details)

Thank you!

According to the rules if you can leave but you'll have to comeback before 730.  Theres restrooms inside Hall H so you don't have to leave.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: Car_Low on July 06, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thank you! You've answered a lot of my questions on here; I really appreciate it!

yeah no problem. love to help.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: BadWolf on July 12, 2015, 10:30:06 AM
FYI: Hall H is walk in right now! (10:30am Sunday)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SiddFinch on July 17, 2015, 11:05:18 AM
So, what was everyone's impressions of Hall H this year? I guess camping is here to stay, and the NDL only will serve to reinforce that mentality. I feel like a better answer is out there somewhere (and an answer that doesn't require you sacrificing con time by waiting in line), but I'll be darned if I know what it is.

Maybe with the bigger studios (Sony, Paramount, Marvel) sitting out of the con, plus other studios seeming none-too-happy about their footage being leaked/ reconsidering bringing exclusive footage in the future, Hall H will start becoming less of a draw? Maybe?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: perc2100 on July 17, 2015, 11:14:53 AM

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Maybe with the bigger studios (Sony, Paramount, Marvel) sitting out of the con, plus other studios seeming none-too-happy about their footage being leaked/ reconsidering bringing exclusive footage in the future, Hall H will start becoming less of a draw? Maybe?
That's possible. If all the studios stop making a big deal about "exclusive" footage and people realize they'll likely see the same exact footage released by the studios later on, maybe it will die down a bit. Depends on the amount of people who go to Hall H to see stars, to listen to stars talk or to see footage. I've gotten the impression talking to folks in Hall H over the years most people just dig the experience of being in a room with 6500 other like-minded rabid fans. If that's the case, then it's likely never gonna drop too much unless big studios stop presenting/marketing.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: SiddFinch on July 17, 2015, 11:28:35 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Depends on the amount of people who go to Hall H to see stars, to listen to stars talk or to see footage. I've gotten the impression talking to folks in Hall H over the years most people just dig the experience of being in a room with 6500 other like-minded rabid fans. If that's the case, then it's likely never gonna drop too much unless big studios stop presenting/marketing.

Yeah, agreed. But I can dream at least! 'course, Star Wars will always be a huge draw so everyone is at least gonna want to get into the Lucasfilm panel for the next several years (with the new sequel trilogy + the standalone films, I'm betting we'll see them back frequently).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on July 18, 2015, 05:31:25 AM
But even with all the people who camped out, at 6 am Thursday they were still giving out Group B wristbands, and at 7am on Saturday, they were still giving out Group D wristbands.  That's two days where you didn't need to camp out at all to get into the first panel just to get into the room.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: FBS on July 18, 2015, 06:01:03 AM
Got down to Joe's Crab Shack at 6 am on Sunday morning. Got a D wristband. They still had a couple of hundred left.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips 2015
Post by: sefton42 on July 18, 2015, 06:05:43 AM
And even as of Saturday night, some of the security people didn't know the rules.  I happened to be walking behind a woman who asked a security guard where the Sunday line started and he told her it was right in front of the Hilton and that she would be first in line.  There were already several hundred people in the actual NDL on the marina.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Angel_ on November 10, 2017, 06:09:18 PM
This post hasn't been commented on in two and a half years. YIKES.

Well I'm about to resurrect it from the dead with a question.

(https://m.popkey.co/448966/orm6L.gif)

I've been doing Hall H since 2011 and I feel like the time we are actually let into the room has always been sort of vague.  In 2016 when I did Hall H Saturday they said 8:00am.  That came and went.  Then 8:30 am and that came and went. I don't think we moved until some time around 9? It's been a while so it's hazy.  I used to do Sunday before and I remember that also being sort of up in the air and nobody really knowing when they'd let us in.

So my question is, is it always this vague?  Or is there an actual time that it is SUPPOSED to happen and things just... don't?

The reason I'm asking this question at such a weird time of year is because I'm writing little tips for friends who want to attend (and possibly an article) and this is the one piece of the big Hall H puzzle that I can't remember the details about.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: tsnyder on November 11, 2017, 12:46:17 AM
I'm pretty sure they start filling hall h an hour before the first panel.  The last 2 years on sat that hasn't been till well after 9 because they haven't had a panel until WB. Friday is a lot earlier like at 8 because they usually have a 9 panel.  Not sure about thur & sun as I've never lined up those days, just walked in later in the day.  I seem to remember sats used to have something before wb but my years get hazy.

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: FBS on November 11, 2017, 05:28:58 AM
Sunday was an hour before the first panel.

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on November 11, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
I guess lines form the day before for any panel, but there are panels for big time shows and small time ones. then there are panels for misc stuff that u dont have to wait to get in i guess, i not sure since i not gone to any since been able to get back in and try to check out stuff downstairs and around outside if not try get swag inside or any singings at time lol. i can see with this past con my first year back after so many not gone to, i adjust and dont try to do so much and still try get free swag and whatever else free i read about before con and while i was there at time. but panels not sure what to suggest unless a way to get in any big ones and not have to wait in line all day lol.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on November 11, 2017, 11:09:17 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm pretty sure they start filling hall h an hour before the first panel.  The last 2 years on sat that hasn't been till well after 9 because they haven't had a panel until WB. Friday is a lot earlier like at 8 because they usually have a 9 panel.  Not sure about thur & sun as I've never lined up those days, just walked in later in the day.  I seem to remember sats used to have something before wb but my years get hazy.

Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
IIRC It's typically almost always an hour or so before the first panel, though I think on Saturdays maybe they should for 75/90 min. before if the first panel starts late.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Surfworld on March 31, 2018, 11:27:50 AM
I’m curious what will change with the wristband distribution or if we’ll need to scan in/out
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on March 31, 2018, 01:42:00 PM
Seeing how they change stuff with wondercon, not sure how it gona affect things at sdcc this year. guess if anything gotta wait and see what happens or is said later.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on April 26, 2018, 01:36:47 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I’m curious what will change with the wristband distribution or if we’ll need to scan in/out

Good question.  After last year's disaster, you'd think they'd come up with something else.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on April 26, 2018, 01:55:43 PM
With what they did at wondercon , they might do same for sdcc this year. nothing is for sure yet till u get emails about it i guess sometime between now and july before con hits and all.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on April 26, 2018, 02:01:32 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
With what they did at wondercon , they might do same for sdcc this year. nothing is for sure yet till u get emails about it i guess sometime between now and july before con hits and all.

What did they do different at Wondercon?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on April 26, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
What did they do different at Wondercon?

they did like an online lottery for some stuff, so u was given an option of what stuff u can check out or try for at wondercon for i guess signings or panels i guess. and think if they do that to choose all options possible so u able to get something then nothing if u only pick 1 or 2 out of all the options.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 26, 2018, 04:54:42 PM
Online lottery at Wondercon didn't include panels.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on April 26, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Online lottery at Wondercon didn't include panels.

Okay was not sure, was guessing it included everything. so we still gotta wait to see what they do with sdcc this year then.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: D34dp00l on April 27, 2018, 01:41:59 PM
Last year's Hall H debacle was likely due to counterfeit wristbands.  Assuming CCI gave out only as many wristbands as they had seats, it was horrible when many of us with wristbands were outside on Saturday due to the Hall being full.  CCI did respond properly and take responsibility by providing comp badges for SDCC 2018 to those shut out, however the immediate impact was a difficult pill to swallow. Additionally, there was poor management of the ADA line for Hall H and many folks in that line were shut out both Friday and Saturday.
Noting that they tried alternative approaches at Wondercon and that Wondercon is often the pilot for all things SDCC, I think we can EXPECT some changes for Hall H this year - what those are going to be is anybody's guess.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: justboogie on April 27, 2018, 02:13:49 PM
^I agree 100% that counterfeit wristbands were used. I hope changes are made for this year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on April 27, 2018, 03:05:09 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Last year's Hall H debacle was likely due to counterfeit wristbands.  Assuming CCI gave out only as many wristbands as they had seats, it was horrible when many of us with wristbands were outside on Saturday due to the Hall being full.  CCI did respond properly and take responsibility by providing comp badges for SDCC 2018 to those shut out, however the immediate impact was a difficult pill to swallow. Additionally, there was poor management of the ADA line for Hall H and many folks in that line were shut out both Friday and Saturday.
Noting that they tried alternative approaches at Wondercon and that Wondercon is often the pilot for all things SDCC, I think we can EXPECT some changes for Hall H this year - what those are going to be is anybody's guess.

I would think they could keep track of everyone with a virtual wristband via our badges.  Just scan the badges.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on April 27, 2018, 04:16:06 PM
When things go wrong and the higher ups are told, then it gets handled right then at anytime. they do have staff that try to fix things at time kinda like chain of command, staff does what it can to fix anything at the time. then i seen videos or read they have a talk back panel on sunday so con goers or other can vent their comments and see what the staff or higher say about it at time. that is how the badges got comped cause of how things went last year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 27, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I have seen no proof of counterfeit wristbands. Hearsay and one grainy twitter video does not constitute proof.
The other rumors were wristband overprinting and room level actually less than the previuos Hall H capacity due to the new chairs.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 27, 2018, 04:35:13 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The other rumors were wristband overprinting and room level actually less than the previuos Hall H capacity due to the new chairs.

If that were true, then the issue that happened Saturday would also have happened on Friday.

The president of CCI (John Rogers) stated that it was fake wristbands at Talkback. I believe him.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 27, 2018, 06:00:25 PM
The seat capacity issue, yes.  Counterfeit wristbands, "possibly."  Overprinting of one Group?? They said they'd check the printers.

I think CCI should just rename the mixed badges line as the official standby line. Remove those mixed badges (those who left the line and returned by 730.) and add a fifth, distinct wristband that doesn't guarantee entry to Hall H. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: D34dp00l on April 27, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
I can also say with confidence that in addition to counterfeit (or simply unofficial, bought at Staples, wristbands) I saw many people simply push in the line with NO wristbands.  The volunteers simply can't monitor and manage that surge of people pushing through those doors and once inside that dark Hall, one is impossible to track. I have been doing SDCC for 5 years now and have never seen Hall H managed well... but is it worth it ? Absolutely, every year I come back for more.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: cabler30 on April 28, 2018, 12:38:51 PM
It just shows how desparate people are to get into a panel if gotta make fake bands to do so. with the rfid tech they use now, i wonder how they can make it work multipurpose for panels and draws ,etc
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: D34dp00l on June 11, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
Desperate is an understatement - people has slept out for days (the Force Awakens panel may have been the worst of all time - complete cast of legacy SW and new Star Wars and right before Carrie Fisher's passing).  I can say truly a once-in-a-lifetime event for many fans but over the years its gotten exponentially worse, with more sophisticated fraud and line cutting. Hall H is a big part of SDCC for me and many others but last year's frustration was too much.  If SDCC leadership fails to step up and get some controls in place, I know I won't do Hall H again.  I'm convinced CCI knows its a huge issue, just waiting to hear the solution they'll try this year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Mel on June 14, 2018, 12:38:27 AM
I agree with others betting something changes this year. In addition to whatever happened on Saturday and people with bands not getting in, it's just becoming unsafe. They don't have the security to manage the crowds and the scrum that takes place when the next day line is forming. If you have been there during that, you know what I mean. It's about 3 security guys and a thousand people.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Jim Watari on June 14, 2018, 07:49:39 AM
Well they have RFID badges , so having people "tap in" to get the wristband and "tap in" to enter Hall H could solve the problem. I know that sounds scary with all the things that could go wrong, but what other choice do they have.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: TossedSalad on June 14, 2018, 08:23:23 AM
I’ve been fortunate the last three years with getting into the A group for Hall H. It’s been many hours spent outside in line and it’s pretty crazy how you can go from 35-40 back from the front of the line in the next day line to hundreds back during the course of the day. I’ve been out as early as Thursday night the last two years and it’s been crazy. I thought dawn Friday morning was crazy for the Force Awakens panel but the last two years with Marvel we’ve started on Thursday. We only had a group of 5-6 people, which I took the brunt of the work the last two years in line and it gets frustrating being there for 24 plus hours and seeing people you didn’t see all day getting wristbands. A few cutters were caught last year and tossed because no one around us would let them jump in. I’ve even seen people willing to spend cash to get in line at wristband time.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: TardisMom on June 14, 2018, 08:46:31 AM
I'm REALLY curious what will happen with the Hall H line this year.  I do think the lack of a Marvel panel on Saturday will make whatever they do hard to compare to previous years.  I just really hope they don't do a lottery.  Info now, please!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: dollar2k3 on June 20, 2018, 09:00:41 AM
I wonder with the new member badge only area extending to the Hall H line, will that lessen some of the camping out scenarios? For example, if someone only has a Sat badge, will they be able to post up in line on Friday? Or will they only be able to get in line for the day of the badge they hold?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: JKingoftheNerds on June 20, 2018, 09:43:36 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I wonder with the new member badge only area extending to the Hall H line, will that lessen some of the camping out scenarios? For example, if someone only has a Sat badge, will they be able to post up in line on Friday? Or will they only be able to get in line for the day of the badge they hold?

According to the SDCC Unofficial Blog's Concast last night, the *official* policy will be that only people with the badge for that particular day will be allowed in that area, but that policy isn't likely to be strictly enforced, so if you have your badge on, even if it's for a different day, you'll probably still be allowed access.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: TossedSalad on June 20, 2018, 09:43:44 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I wonder with the new member badge only area extending to the Hall H line, will that lessen some of the camping out scenarios? For example, if someone only has a Sat badge, will they be able to post up in line on Friday? Or will they only be able to get in line for the day of the badge they hold?

I’m kind of hoping for that scenario. Just for all those who really spend that time in line to not get shafted. I’ve seen people have friends who don’t have badges hold places in line for them in the past
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 20, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
According to the SDCC Unofficial Blog's Concast last night, the *official* policy will be that only people with the badge for that particular day will be allowed in that area, but that policy isn't likely to be strictly enforced, so if you have your badge on, even if it's for a different day, you'll probably still be allowed access.

But what does 'being allowed into the area' mean? My assumption was that they were going to move out the badge scanning stations to positions outside of the convention center. If your badge doesn't scan, then you wouldn't be able to get in.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: tsnyder on June 20, 2018, 10:56:57 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
But what does 'being allowed into the area' mean? My assumption was that they were going to move out the badge scanning stations to positions outside of the convention center. If your badge doesn't scan, then you wouldn't be able to get in.

They said RFID scanner will still be at the doors.  Will just be security positioned outside looking to see if you have a badge to get into said areas.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: dollar2k3 on June 20, 2018, 11:04:47 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
But what does 'being allowed into the area' mean? My assumption was that they were going to move out the badge scanning stations to positions outside of the convention center. If your badge doesn't scan, then you wouldn't be able to get in.

Thats what I got from the original post on the SDCC Blog site. I was kinda hoping that would be the case so like mentioned before, you don't have people holding spots or camping days ahead of a panel.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: chocolateshake on June 20, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Thats what I got from the original post on the SDCC Blog site. I was kinda hoping that would be the case so like mentioned before, you don't have people holding spots or camping days ahead of a panel.

But that defeats what comic-con has been trying to do, allow more people to attend comic-con.  That's why they switched to single day badging.  If they only allowed people in for the day their badge was active, then people couldn't camp out for Hall H unless they had a badge good for at least 2 days.  For example, someone with only a badge good for Saturday, couldn't start camping out on Friday.  That doesn't seem right.

I think restricting it to badge holders, regardless of when the badge is active is the best way to go.  It addresses the issue of people without badges holding a place in line and the congestion somewhat.  Although, I don't think I ever saw that many people without badges in the to be roped off areas.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: TossedSalad on June 20, 2018, 12:16:53 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
But that defeats what comic-con has been trying to do, allow more people to attend comic-con.  That's why they switched to single day badging.  If they only allowed people in for the day their badge was active, then people couldn't camp out for Hall H unless they had a badge good for at least 2 days.  For example, someone with only a badge good for Saturday, couldn't start camping out on Friday.  That doesn't seem right.

I think restricting it to badge holders, regardless of when the badge is active is the best way to go.  It addresses the issue of people without badges holding a place in line and the congestion somewhat.  Although, I don't think I ever saw that many people without badges in the to be roped off areas.

I’m sure there would be a way for single day badge holders to camp for Hall h. That’s what line groups and stuff are for. If you had a Thursday only badge though, then camping for Saturday for example would be silly but I guess a possible money making thing for someone. These are all details and scenarios that will Work themselves out as they try this thing out. I’m sure someone who wanted Saturday would be able to access the line area Friday night. It looked like the restrictions are during the general show floor hours each day
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: dollar2k3 on June 20, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
But that defeats what comic-con has been trying to do, allow more people to attend comic-con.  That's why they switched to single day badging.  If they only allowed people in for the day their badge was active, then people couldn't camp out for Hall H unless they had a badge good for at least 2 days.  For example, someone with only a badge good for Saturday, couldn't start camping out on Friday.  That doesn't seem right.

I think restricting it to badge holders, regardless of when the badge is active is the best way to go.  It addresses the issue of people without badges holding a place in line and the congestion somewhat.  Although, I don't think I ever saw that many people without badges in the to be roped off areas.

All due respect, but that's what I mean. Currently you have people(like your example) who camp out starting Friday morning, for panels on Saturday. If you have a badge for both days and choose to forgo one of those days to wait in line, ok. But if you don't have a badge for the previous day, you should only be able to line up/camp on the day your badge is for, or at the very least, have it where you can get in line once they start handing out the wristbands after the last panel of the previous day.

I'm sure its not a popular opinion but it seems more fair to me. Being that Hall H is a part of the Convention Center, if you can't walk into the Convention Center on a particular day, you shouldn't be able to camp out/line up for Hall H that day either.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: chocolateshake on June 20, 2018, 01:31:12 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
All due respect, but that's what I mean. Currently you have people(like your example) who camp out starting Friday morning, for panels on Saturday. If you have a badge for both days and choose to forgo one of those days to wait in line, ok. But if you don't have a badge for the previous day, you should only be able to line up/camp on the day your badge is for, or at the very least, have it where you can get in line once they start handing out the wristbands after the last panel of the previous day.

I'm sure its not a popular opinion but it seems more fair to me. Being that Hall H is a part of the Convention Center, if you can't walk into the Convention Center on a particular day, you shouldn't be able to camp out/line up for Hall H that day either.

With the same due respect, once again, I think that defeats what comic-con set forth to do with getting rid of multiday badging and going to single day badging.  Yes, while Hall H is part of the convention center, the overnight line to get into it that extends along the Marina is most definitely not.  Badging controls access to the convention center proper.  Nothing else.  For better or worse, the Hall H line is not contained in that area.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: chocolateshake on June 20, 2018, 01:37:11 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I’m sure there would be a way for single day badge holders to camp for Hall h. That’s what line groups and stuff are for. If you had a Thursday only badge though, then camping for Saturday for example would be silly but I guess a possible money making thing for someone. These are all details and scenarios that will Work themselves out as they try this thing out. I’m sure someone who wanted Saturday would be able to access the line area Friday night. It looked like the restrictions are during the general show floor hours each day

Line groups shouldn't be a requirement to get into Hall H.  In fact, the way I see it, line groups are the problem.  How many times have people complained that right at the end, a group of 20 people cut in front of them because they are part of a line group?  The way line groups work just promote line cutting and people standing in place for other people like the professional line standers you are referring to.  I think if you are going to be in line, then be in line.  Of course there needs to be accommodation for bathroom breaks and other things, but one person shouldn't be able to hold the line for 5 people.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: TossedSalad on June 20, 2018, 02:22:46 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Line groups shouldn't be a requirement to get into Hall H.  In fact, the way I see it, line groups are the problem.  How many times have people complained that right at the end, a group of 20 people cut in front of them because they are part of a line group?  The way line groups work just promote line cutting and people standing in place for other people like the professional line standers you are referring to.  I think if you are going to be in line, then be in line.  Of course there needs to be accommodation for bathroom breaks and other things, but one person shouldn't be able to hold the line for 5 people.

Hey preaching to the choir here. I’ve spent an entire day in line, albeit for a group, but a group of only 4-5 people who also took part in line and I’ve spent the night in the chutes after wristbands. I don’t plan on doing that to that extreme this year since I want to do more stuff and my 12 year old will be with me. So for that aspect, I’m very happy to be a part of a small group. We’ve shooed away cutters in the past and let security know that certain people weren’t in line at all.  There’s nothing perfect and I do believe there should be a limit to line groups
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: LB42 on June 21, 2018, 01:48:00 PM
One thing that I like about this restricted area is that it has the potential to eliminate professional line sitters.  As they have no badge - they may not be able to get to the Hall H line area.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: FlamedLiquid on June 24, 2018, 02:48:49 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Line groups shouldn't be a requirement to get into Hall H.  In fact, the way I see it, line groups are the problem.  How many times have people complained that right at the end, a group of 20 people cut in front of them because they are part of a line group?  The way line groups work just promote line cutting and people standing in place for other people like the professional line standers you are referring to.  I think if you are going to be in line, then be in line.  Of course there needs to be accommodation for bathroom breaks and other things, but one person shouldn't be able to hold the line for 5 people.

Exactly this. At most 1 person should be able to hold spots for two others. If you have a group of 7 and only one person stays in line it's pretty unfair.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Slave2Evil_Lyn on June 28, 2018, 07:51:12 PM
Forgive me if this has been discussed already, I didn’t read all 19 pages.   

It’s been announced that Hasbro, Funko, and LEGO are only available via the Comic-Con online lottery portal and autographs will also be done this way.  Do you think that they will do something similar with Hall H? 
They are clearly trying to cut down the lines and Hall H has the biggest plus with what happened last year it seems possible.   
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on June 28, 2018, 08:44:50 PM
It’s certainly possible. I am expecting some changes this year, given what happened with the wristbands on Saturday last year. But if not this year, then quite likely next year.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: litex2x on July 04, 2018, 02:56:21 PM
With no Disney or HBO this year? What are the expectations for Hall H lines?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 04, 2018, 02:58:54 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
With no Disney or HBO this year? What are the expectations for Hall H lines?

Uncertain. So far, there don't seem to be any 'massive draw' panels like Game of Thrones or Marvel movies. So we're not entirely sure what days will be the popular days. So far, Sunday and Thursday are actually looking to be big, while traditionally those were 'walk-in' days.

It's going to be a strange year in Hall H, that's for sure. Hopefully we'll know a little more when the programming schedule is released.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: debster on July 04, 2018, 05:33:46 PM
From today’s Toucan Tip:

Quote
The line for Hall H starts outside the building in Plaza Park. Look for the sign that reads “Hall H line begins here.”

The Toucan Tracker wristband policy returns again this year. Wristbands will be given out for the first panel of each day in Hall H. (Look for a Toucan Tip next Monday that fully explains the wristbands.)

I guess we will find out next Monday if anything is changing with respect to getting wristbands. Saying the policy is “returning” might mean nothing will change from last year.

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 04, 2018, 06:04:06 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I guess we will find out next Monday if anything is changing with respect to getting wristbands. Saying the policy is “returning” might mean nothing will change from last year.

Or that any changes are on the distribution and security side, rather than on the 'instructions to attendees' side.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: tsnyder on March 22, 2019, 12:17:29 PM
Last year they added in the wrinkle of scanning badges while handing out wristbands.  On Wednesday night they had problems getting the machines to work which delayed the start by an hour, pain with that is it directly cut into PN time.  I didn't see any other issues or problems with the scanning on Thur or Fri night and seemed to go pretty smooth and not really add any time to the process.

They did actually use the RFID and link your badge to Hall H as you couldn't get into Hall H in the morning if your badge hadn't been scanned which I though was great.  Only hiccup was in the past I had been able to trade out with a friend using the bathroom pass and allow them to see panels I didn't care about (like Preacher & Twin Peaks in 17) then swap back in for the stuff I wanted after.  Last year that didn't work as even with a bathroom pass if their badge hadn't been scanned into Hall H previously in the day they couldn't get in with a bathroom pass.  (Note don't buy bathroom passes from anyone). I think that is another great addition even though it altered some of my plans.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on July 16, 2019, 04:12:04 PM
Anyone know what time they start giving out wristbands for the next day?  My daughter and I will be saving each other's spots in line but I don't want one of us to not be there when they start doling them out.  What time do we both absolutely have to be in line to not miss out?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: SamTurtledove on July 16, 2019, 04:52:46 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Anyone know what time they start giving out wristbands for the next day?  My daughter and I will be saving each other's spots in line but I don't want one of us to not be there when they start doling them out.  What time do we both absolutely have to be in line to not miss out?

Wristband Distribution start times are located in the quick guide!  Also the positions in line may change due to line condensing as they approach

https://www.comic-con.org/toucan/018-2019-quick-guide-now-online

Quote

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190712/3bfe12ed19b04caed168cc6f864c5af0.jpg)

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on July 19, 2019, 07:57:41 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Wristband Distribution start times are located in the quick guide!  Also the positions in line may change due to line condensing as they approach

https://www.comic-con.org/toucan/018-2019-quick-guide-now-online

I am hearing that the posted times are totally inaccurate and cannot be relied on. What are real Time postings from those who went yesterday? What were the start and end times?
Title: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: accelerate on July 20, 2019, 08:10:03 AM
Yesterday (Friday) was an absolute clusterduck of a mess getting wristbands for Saturday. So blinky blinks started at 8:45pm, pretty much on schedule (rant on this later). But then somehow the line near the front completely blew up into this huge mob. We’re not talking just people whose space was being held by others, but a mass of line cutters as well.

They were at wristband B after maybe only 100 yards, no joke. They somehow went through 1200+ wristbands in that space. Only after that did they bring in extra security in an attempt to police the line. There was this place where the line curved around, and it was a mosh pit of people.

And before you say it, I get it, each person is allowed to save space for five people total, but this was weellll beyond that. The line grew at least 10x up at the front.

After that line curve, things were much better controlled. My line group was in the zig zag portion, before the basketball courts, but we felt hopeless, because the line still had to go around outer edge of island to get to us. They were already at C by the time they reached the initial part of that edge. And they were at D when they hit the zig zag. The blinky blinks were already telling us they may not reach us. We were in the toughest spot. Not far enough to give up, but close enough to cling to that tiny bit of hope, only to possibly be crushed if they fall short of us.

And... we got one of the last wristbands! Like, they literally ran out maybe 20-30 people after us. They ran out around 11:45pm, so three hours after it all started. We just felt so much relief. But also anger at all the line cutters and the utter lack of policing.

And that brings me to an issue I’ve had with this whole setup. Why the heck do they start handing out wristbands so late, especially after dark when it’s much harder to keep track of your neighbors and notice line cutters? Other days, they start earlier when there’s still light, but not on the one day where there are the most people. It makes absolute zero sense.

There’s so much anger, angst, and depression on Twitter, and I don’t blame anyone for it. It was so poorly handled. In fact, I’ve read there was even a huge mess for the overnight campers, who kept being moved well into the night.

For me, even though I got a wristband, I doubt I’ll ever do this again. I usually skip this Hall H chaos, but I really wanted to see Star Trek (I’ll probably skip Marvel since I don’t want to spend the entire day at Hall H).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Kfrye on July 24, 2019, 05:56:00 PM
Don't they start handing out next day wristbands after the programming for the current day is completed? That was 8pm on Friday, so 8:45 is reasonable in that context. But I agree it's hard to police others in the dark, especially when people can sneak in on two sides of the line, like they could this year.

Sent from my moto x4 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 24, 2019, 06:37:31 PM
This is my summary of the line situation at SDCC this year, with special attention to the Hall H lines.

https://www.friendsofcc.com/2019/07/24/focc-sdcc-50-recap-lines-and-lotteries/
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Roo_bear on July 24, 2019, 09:15:11 PM
Was that a typo in the article? It states that all “a” wristbands were given out in the first 30 feet. I was further back than that and still received one. Yes, the line surge was ridiculous, but I was told anecdotally that “a”s ended near Joe’s Crab Shack.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 25, 2019, 07:27:46 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Was that a typo in the article? It states that all “a” wristbands were given out in the first 30 feet. I was further back than that and still received one. Yes, the line surge was ridiculous, but I was told anecdotally that “a”s ended near Joe’s Crab Shack.

A number of people I spoke with said that it was within 30 feet. From your experience, how far back was it before A wristbands ran out?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Roo_bear on July 25, 2019, 08:44:22 AM
https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21 (https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21)
I went back and looked at the map. The green dot is about where the line started. The yellow is about where I received my wristband, and the red being where I believe the a’s ran out.The average parking spot is 8 feet wide, so looking across from my yellow dot in the photo, you can see that I was about 12 spots back from the green dot, or about 100 feet.There were 2 groups in front of us whose numbers grew tremendously when the time approached, and the same happened behind us. We had to be diligent to make sure no one cut into ours. 55 was our number, and we had photos every 2 hours, not only to show other members of the group where we were, but to prove we had followed the rules as closely as possible all day.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 25, 2019, 09:03:05 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21 (https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21)
I went back and looked at the map. The green dot is about where the line started. The yellow is about where I received my wristband, and the red being where I believe the a’s ran out.The average parking spot is 8 feet wide, so looking across from my yellow dot in the photo, you can see that I was about 12 spots back from the green dot, or about 100 feet.There were 2 groups in front of us whose numbers grew tremendously when the time approached, and the same happened behind us. We had to be diligent to make sure no one cut into ours. 55 was our number, and we had photos every 2 hours, not only to show other members of the group where we were, but to prove we had followed the rules as closely as possible all day.

Thank you for the information! It is much appreciated!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: accelerate on July 25, 2019, 11:07:51 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21 (https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21)
I went back and looked at the map. The green dot is about where the line started. The yellow is about where I received my wristband, and the red being where I believe the a’s ran out.The average parking spot is 8 feet wide, so looking across from my yellow dot in the photo, you can see that I was about 12 spots back from the green dot, or about 100 feet.There were 2 groups in front of us whose numbers grew tremendously when the time approached, and the same happened behind us. We had to be diligent to make sure no one cut into ours. 55 was our number, and we had photos every 2 hours, not only to show other members of the group where we were, but to prove we had followed the rules as closely as possible all day.

That map really puts in perspective how much line cutting there was and how crowded that area became. There was another area, starting in the top left of that picture, that was absolutely jampacked with people. By the time they got to the end of the line on that side of the road (ie, line break), they were already on C's. And then C's lasted until it circled the entire pier to the start of the zigzag by Joe's Crab Shack. And then D's ran out right at the end of the zig zag.

In contrast, the line for Sunday ran out of B's at the end of the basketball court (which is after the zigzag). Same line setup, less people.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on July 25, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
It's clear that the security around the wristbanding line on Saturday was poor and that they did nothing about the people who rushed the line other than to give them wristbands. Hopefully CCI can increase security in future years to only give wristbands to legitimate line-waiters.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: dkd on July 25, 2019, 01:00:26 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
This is my summary of the line situation at SDCC this year, with special attention to the Hall H lines.

https://www.friendsofcc.com/2019/07/24/focc-sdcc-50-recap-lines-and-lotteries/

I didn't do Hall H at all this year, but that's an interesting read.  I'm not sure that the Indigo Ballroom issue was directly caused by Hall H reductions.  It seemed to me--from looking at the "popular" ranking on MySched--that some things were put into Indigo that should have been in either Hall H or Ballroom 20.  "The Good Place", for instance, was one of the ten most popular panels on MySched, putting it above many things that were in the larger rooms.

But, I don't know how SDCC can do a better job at assigning rooms.  Sometimes it's hard to predict interest.  Maybe they should throw some panel names out about a month before the con and do a "popularity" survey.

I think that the ultimate solution to Hall H may be what they did with the exclusives--lotteries.  If you combine a lottery system and splitting each day into two sessions where you clear the room in the middle of the day, you would go a long way toward solving the line issues.   So, when you enter the lottery, you choose Friday First Half vs. Friday Second Half.  It might actually be better for some people because if they only are interested in the last panel (e.g. Game of Thrones), they don't have to spend the whole day watching panels they aren't interested in.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: semigeekgirl on July 25, 2019, 01:30:43 PM
They are SO BAD at loading Hall H though. Or at least it seemed even worse than usual this year. I'd hate to see them clear it, if only because it would waste so much potential panel time.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: dkd on July 25, 2019, 02:01:38 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
They are SO BAD at loading Hall H though. Or at least it seemed even worse than usual this year. I'd hate to see them clear it, if only because it would waste so much potential panel time.

That's why I said just one clearance in the middle of the day.  You'd probably lose just one panel...and maybe you can go later into the evening to make up for it.

It doesn't matter.  They'll probably never do it.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: loubert on August 05, 2019, 09:14:11 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21 (https://twitter.com/mycomiccon2020/status/1154415305713770500?s=21)
I went back and looked at the map. The green dot is about where the line started. The yellow is about where I received my wristband, and the red being where I believe the a’s ran out.The average parking spot is 8 feet wide, so looking across from my yellow dot in the photo, you can see that I was about 12 spots back from the green dot, or about 100 feet.There were 2 groups in front of us whose numbers grew tremendously when the time approached, and the same happened behind us. We had to be diligent to make sure no one cut into ours. 55 was our number, and we had photos every 2 hours, not only to show other members of the group where we were, but to prove we had followed the rules as closely as possible all day.

My group was right at the point when they ran out of "A"s (in fact, half of us got "A"s and half got "B"s), and I can confirm that the location on your map where the "A"s ran out is pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: loubert on August 05, 2019, 09:22:00 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I didn't do Hall H at all this year, but that's an interesting read.  I'm not sure that the Indigo Ballroom issue was directly caused by Hall H reductions.  It seemed to me--from looking at the "popular" ranking on MySched--that some things were put into Indigo that should have been in either Hall H or Ballroom 20.  "The Good Place", for instance, was one of the ten most popular panels on MySched, putting it above many things that were in the larger rooms.

But, I don't know how SDCC can do a better job at assigning rooms.  Sometimes it's hard to predict interest.  Maybe they should throw some panel names out about a month before the con and do a "popularity" survey.

I think that the ultimate solution to Hall H may be what they did with the exclusives--lotteries.  If you combine a lottery system and splitting each day into two sessions where you clear the room in the middle of the day, you would go a long way toward solving the line issues.   So, when you enter the lottery, you choose Friday First Half vs. Friday Second Half.  It might actually be better for some people because if they only are interested in the last panel (e.g. Game of Thrones), they don't have to spend the whole day watching panels they aren't interested in.

I may be wrong about this, but I've heard that for many of the movie/television panels, the studios play a big part in determining the room, and sometimes they prefer a smaller room to ensure long lines and no empty seats. They'd rather have a room that seats 2000 people be filled than have a room that seats 4000 people have 700 empty seats. And long lines suggest massive popularity, which is a bonus for the studios.

Alas, what's good for the studios isn't always so good for us fans.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: omraged9 on August 07, 2019, 12:47:55 AM
I heard the same about studios deciding which rooms they want for their panels too. But Saturday is a unique day for panels in itself. For some reason it seems like the studios want to hold their most popular panels on Saturday and so there's actual competition for rooms for panels. Ballroom 20 has been the room for Fox Animation block (Simpsons, American Dad and Family Guy) and the CW DC shows for several years now to a point where there's almost no room for other shows to hold panels except maybe the 10am or 11am slots. I would have loved to see The Good Place in B20 myself but either NBC didn't want to or their scheduled panel time couldn't fit the limited time slots left in B20. Seeing how the Fox Animation shows will never be canceled nor will CW stop having DC shows, B20's Saturday schedule will be set for many years now and we'll probably see the more interesting or popular shows in Indigo from now on too... I will say I was pleasantly surprised that they were able to squeeze The Orville between the Fox Animation show block and the CW DC show block but that's probably due to Seth MacFarlane's involvement in that show and Family Guy.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: tsnyder on January 08, 2020, 07:43:17 AM
I'm sure they had reasons but I'm really hoping they don't keep the NDL out on the marina again this year.  Ground was uneven, was further walk, and most importantly they couldn't control the line during wristband distribution.  Maybe just me but I really preferred on the concrete along the waterfront.  I am a big fan of the change to NDL only starting each morning, wish they had given us heads up prior to but either way I'm I really liked that decision.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: loubert on January 08, 2020, 08:14:51 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm sure they had reasons but I'm really hoping they don't keep the NDL out on the marina again this year.  Ground was uneven, was further walk, and most importantly they couldn't control the line during wristband distribution.  Maybe just me but I really preferred on the concrete along the waterfront.  I am a big fan of the change to NDL only starting each morning, wish they had given us heads up prior to but either way I'm I really liked that decision.

Yeah, the bumpy ground with all those exposed, gnarly tree roots was horribly uncomfortable, and the wristband distribution there (at least on Friday night) was pretty awful! I preferred the concrete, too. I wonder if part of the reason they moved it was so there would be clearer, easier access for people (including celebs) to get onto the yachts for the various parties.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on January 08, 2020, 12:06:45 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm sure they had reasons but I'm really hoping they don't keep the NDL out on the marina again this year.  Ground was uneven, was further walk, and most importantly they couldn't control the line during wristband distribution.  Maybe just me but I really preferred on the concrete along the waterfront.  I am a big fan of the change to NDL only starting each morning, wish they had given us heads up prior to but either way I'm I really liked that decision.
I agree, though I'd like to think if they continue to use the marina (which may be slightly complicated due to the construction work and upgrade of the performing arts stage going in right now; I'm not sure how, if at all, that may impact the marina area nearby) this year they'll be significantly more organized this year.  I vaguely remember when they formalized the NDL procedure by the bay previously, it was a bit of a mess Year 1 and Year 2 was significantly better.  I think last year's situation was MUCH better for SDCCI overall.  It made wandering around the bay and going to off-site stuff a lot better without the throngs of people crammed on the ocean side of the sidewalk & I suspect it made the Hilton Bayfront Ballroom (can't think of it at this moment) line much better.  It was worse for those of us in the Hall H line, for sure, but I bet it was better overall.  I look forward to the situation being improved for 2020: CCI does a great job, IMO, of analyzing situations and improving them, even if said improvements take years to smooth themselves out.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: stl_ben on January 08, 2020, 12:54:38 PM
Was there any days this year that you couldn't get into Hall H without camping?  Good seating aside, was there any days that you wouldn't at least get in if you arrived say at 5am?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: IanCar on January 08, 2020, 01:05:10 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Was there any days this year that you couldn't get into Hall H without camping?  Good seating aside, was there any days that you wouldn't at least get in if you arrived say at 5am?

I believe Saturday Hall H especially for the MCU panel.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: loubert on January 08, 2020, 05:09:30 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I agree, though I'd like to think if they continue to use the marina (which may be slightly complicated due to the construction work and upgrade of the performing arts stage going in right now; I'm not sure how, if at all, that may impact the marina area nearby) this year they'll be significantly more organized this year.  I vaguely remember when they formalized the NDL procedure by the bay previously, it was a bit of a mess Year 1 and Year 2 was significantly better.  I think last year's situation was MUCH better for SDCCI overall.  It made wandering around the bay and going to off-site stuff a lot better without the throngs of people crammed on the ocean side of the sidewalk & I suspect it made the Hilton Bayfront Ballroom (can't think of it at this moment) line much better.  It was worse for those of us in the Hall H line, for sure, but I bet it was better overall.  I look forward to the situation being improved for 2020: CCI does a great job, IMO, of analyzing situations and improving them, even if said improvements take years to smooth themselves out.
I have to agree. CCI rarely has the exact same problem two years in a row.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on January 08, 2020, 08:20:26 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Was there any days this year that you couldn't get into Hall H without camping?  Good seating aside, was there any days that you wouldn't at least get in if you arrived say at 5am?
I think Saturday last year; maybe Friday, depending on the panel
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: stl_ben on January 09, 2020, 06:14:14 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I believe Saturday Hall H especially for the MCU panel.
Anyone know for sure.  MCU was the one day I thought might cause this, but wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on January 09, 2020, 08:51:12 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I didn't do Hall H at all this year, but that's an interesting read.  I'm not sure that the Indigo Ballroom issue was directly caused by Hall H reductions.  It seemed to me--from looking at the "popular" ranking on MySched--that some things were put into Indigo that should have been in either Hall H or Ballroom 20.  "The Good Place", for instance, was one of the ten most popular panels on MySched, putting it above many things that were in the larger rooms.

But, I don't know how SDCC can do a better job at assigning rooms.  Sometimes it's hard to predict interest.  Maybe they should throw some panel names out about a month before the con and do a "popularity" survey.

I think that the ultimate solution to Hall H may be what they did with the exclusives--lotteries.  If you combine a lottery system and splitting each day into two sessions where you clear the room in the middle of the day, you would go a long way toward solving the line issues.   So, when you enter the lottery, you choose Friday First Half vs. Friday Second Half.  It might actually be better for some people because if they only are interested in the last panel (e.g. Game of Thrones), they don't have to spend the whole day watching panels they aren't interested in.

I dunno. There are many things for which I prefer a lottery, but I find thrill in waiting in line for Hall H. I like that they stopped allowing people to camp for days, but overnight is okay. They just need to figure out how to prevent the line surge at the beginning of the line. I was farther back in line last year on Friday night. Where we were, people were behaving in a civil manner, though maybe a little upset with those people who came out of nowhere to grow the head of the line.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: debster on January 09, 2020, 11:14:26 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I dunno. There are many things for which I prefer a lottery, but I find thrill in waiting in line for Hall H. I like that they stopped allowing people to camp for days, but overnight is okay. They just need to figure out how to prevent the line surge at the beginning of the line. I was further back in line last year on Friday night. Where we were, people were behaving in a civil manner, though maybe a little upset with those people who came out of nowhere to grow the head of the line.


The forming of the line last year was very dangerous and very crazy. I almost got trampled, and I definitely got yelled at by a jerk who pushed himself to near the front of the line. It also doesn’t help that once the line is formed, one person is usually holding the space for about 20-30 people because line groups weren’t really allowed to spread out that much to put in their placeholders. The not announcing when and where the line was forming caused a stampede once that flag went down. If they were trying to prevent chaos, it didn’t work.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on January 09, 2020, 02:52:46 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
They are SO BAD at loading Hall H though. Or at least it seemed even worse than usual this year. I'd hate to see them clear it, if only because it would waste so much potential panel time.
Add to the fact that the lottery completely happens before the schedule drops, IIRC.  Having a "blind" scheduling lotto would cause a massive nightmare: I mean, imagine sorting 100k people all saying that want "Saturday back half" thinking/hoping Marvel Studios will be there, only to learn when the schedule comes out there's no Marvel.  Now, you have potentially a few thousand people who won the lotto who now have no interest of being cooped up in Hall H all afternoon who then bail and leave mass amounts of empty seats.
If they wait until early July, with two weeks left after the schedule is announced, then there's little time to organize everything last minute for CCI (which is a much smaller organization than I think most people think it is: remember it's a non-profit - while the event is huge and the work to produce the event is enormous, the amount of staff is incredibly small).

I think the current panel situation involves making the best of a never-perfect situation.  Clearing the rooms for each panel, even if done only once or twice a day, would take away from at least one panel.  Looking at last year's Saturday panel schedule, for example, there is nothing I would be OK with them dropping.  While I'm not a huge fan of everything every year, there are plenty of other fans: and some panels are a "must," such as the 'Women Who Kick Ass' panel.  It seems counter-productive IMO to lose programming to clear/refill Hall H when the situation currently is generally fine and will likely improve 2020 and beyond.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 10, 2020, 10:05:17 AM
As much as I like the idea of sitting in the same seat for several panels, I can see how it seems unfair to have "seat parkers" who don't even care about the panels before "their" panel, take away seats from those who desperately want to see the panel(s) for which they are just killing time. I am starting to lean toward clearing panel rooms.  Maybe just the bigger rooms, or if there are people waiting in line?  I do not have the answers on just how to do this though.   ???  SDCC is about making the tough choices sometimes.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on January 10, 2020, 12:10:05 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
As much as I like the idea of sitting in the same seat for several panels, I can see how it seems unfair to have "seat parkers" who don't even care about the panels before "their" panel, take away seats from those who desperately want to see the panel(s) for which they are just killing time. I am starting to lean toward clearing panel rooms.  Maybe just the bigger rooms, or if there are people waiting in line?  I do not have the answers on just how to do this though.   ???  SDCC is about making the tough choices sometimes.
SDCC is about making the tough choices ALL the time, I think!
As far as camping out in a hall all day, I've been doing that since almost literally the year Hall H opened (when you could walk right into a LotR panel), and it's a huge pleasure for me: mostly because I often "discover" something new.  For example, one year KICK-ASS had a panel, and I knew absolutely nothing about the comics.  I can't remember what panels I was most interested in, but that panel wasn't on my radar.  After they screened footage, I immediately fell in love.  The director basically said screw the 'family friendly' vibe, this was R-rated, and closed his pre-sizzle reel screening hype by encouraging us to video the footage, put it on YouTube, and rave about it so he could secure studio distribution (a bidding war between studios happened almost immediately after the panel).  I fell in love with the property, bought the books in the Exhibit Hall before the end of the weekend, and the rest is history.

A more recent example:
a few years ago, my son and I wanted to see "The Good Place" panel, and 'camped out' in Indigo Ballroom for the morning/early afternoon.  There was a panel for "Steven Universe," something I had heard of but never seen, & something my son was only vaguely familiar with.  They screened the first episode of the upcoming season (which was massive spoilers/revelations that went way over our heads at the time), and we both fell in love with the series.  My son now would likely consider it his favorite show on TV & my whole family is WAY into the show (VERY rare occurrence in our household).  I don't think we'd have ever 'stumbled upon' "Steven Universe" otherwise.

If pressed I could probably think of a dozen shows or movies this has happened in the 20 years of me going to Comic-Con panels, and it's something I truly love about the event: discovering something new I likely wouldn't have noticed.  I suspect plenty of studios count on that type of thing happening, since they're not going to Comic-Con purely to preach to the already-consuming choir.  I would hate the thought of only attending panels of stuff I already enjoy, and not 'accidentally' discovering something just because I saw the panel while waiting for something else.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: kmy on January 10, 2020, 02:23:44 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
it's a huge pleasure for me: mostly because I often "discover" something new.
Me too. In fact I now often pop into a room that isn't full early just to see what the previous panel is about since I've discovered such cool things while waiting for a panel I really wanted to see. (I, too, stumbled onto Steven Universe that day.)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: puppy on January 12, 2020, 10:13:42 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
SDCC is about making the tough choices ALL the time, I think!
As far as camping out in a hall all day, I've been doing that since almost literally the year Hall H opened (when you could walk right into a LotR panel), and it's a huge pleasure for me: mostly because I often "discover" something new.  For example, one year KICK-ASS had a panel, and I knew absolutely nothing about the comics.  I can't remember what panels I was most interested in, but that panel wasn't on my radar.  After they screened footage, I immediately fell in love.  The director basically said screw the 'family friendly' vibe, this was R-rated, and closed his pre-sizzle reel screening hype by encouraging us to video the footage, put it on YouTube, and rave about it so he could secure studio distribution (a bidding war between studios happened almost immediately after the panel).  I fell in love with the property, bought the books in the Exhibit Hall before the end of the weekend, and the rest is history.

A more recent example:
a few years ago, my son and I wanted to see "The Good Place" panel, and 'camped out' in Indigo Ballroom for the morning/early afternoon.  There was a panel for "Steven Universe," something I had heard of but never seen, & something my son was only vaguely familiar with.  They screened the first episode of the upcoming season (which was massive spoilers/revelations that went way over our heads at the time), and we both fell in love with the series.  My son now would likely consider it his favorite show on TV & my whole family is WAY into the show (VERY rare occurrence in our household).  I don't think we'd have ever 'stumbled upon' "Steven Universe" otherwise.

If pressed I could probably think of a dozen shows or movies this has happened in the 20 years of me going to Comic-Con panels, and it's something I truly love about the event: discovering something new I likely wouldn't have noticed.  I suspect plenty of studios count on that type of thing happening, since they're not going to Comic-Con purely to preach to the already-consuming choir.  I would hate the thought of only attending panels of stuff I already enjoy, and not 'accidentally' discovering something just because I saw the panel while waiting for something else.

I agree. I have made quite a few pleasant discoveries whilst "seat packing." I wouldn't have it any other way, and other diehards who want that seat are perfectly free to seat pack like I do to watch the panel they want. It's the joy of Comic Con. Yes, I have to pick and choose, and lose out on some panels just to seat pack a more favored panel. It is the way.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 13, 2020, 11:36:22 AM
I, too, make it a point to pop into at least 1 panel that has seats open---and have discovered some pretty cool stuff.   Yet, I am still pressed with brainstorming for packed rooms such as Hall H.  This is brainstorming now... Here is another idea:

How about clearing PART of  Hall H or Ballroom 20?  Hear me out.  What if there was a section that was CLEARLY designated and publicized and marked as the section that will be cleared after every panel.  How big would this section be?  Hmmm...maybe a quarter of the room.  Where would it be?  Maybe somewhere in the first third of the room?  If you enter and sit in these seats, you know that you will have to vacate at the end of the panel.

(This idea came to me in the middle of the night, sooooooo.... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Transmute Jun on January 13, 2020, 11:40:31 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I, too, make it a point to pop into at least 1 panel that has seats open---and have discovered some pretty cool stuff.   Yet, I am still pressed with brainstorming for packed rooms such as Hall H.  This is brainstorming now... Here is another idea:

How about clearing PART of  Hall H or Ballroom 20?  Hear me out.  What if there was a section that was CLEARLY designated and publicized and marked as the section that will be cleared after every panel.  How big would this section be?  Hmmm...maybe a quarter of the room.  Where would it be?  Maybe somewhere in the first third of the room?  If you enter and sit in these seats, you know that you will have to vacate at the end of the panel.

(This idea came to me in the middle of the night, sooooooo.... ::) ::)

The big issue I see with this is the people waiting outside to be let into Hall H 'normally'. The people in the cleared section will be forced out at the end of a panel. But where will they go? Many of them will take any available (recently evacuated) seats in the 'regular' section. This prevents people who have been legitimately lined up for these seats from getting them, and creates a 'shortcut' way to get into Hall H. The only way to do this would be to create a 'fenced' off section with a completely separate entrance and exit... and that section likely wouldn't have access to bathrooms either. This would end up being a lot of trouble for CCI to implement.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: NCDS on January 14, 2020, 07:37:18 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The big issue I see with this is the people waiting outside to be let into Hall H 'normally'. The people in the cleared section will be forced out at the end of a panel. But where will they go? Many of them will take any available (recently evacuated) seats in the 'regular' section. This prevents people who have been legitimately lined up for these seats from getting them, and creates a 'shortcut' way to get into Hall H. The only way to do this would be to create a 'fenced' off section with a completely separate entrance and exit... and that section likely wouldn't have access to bathrooms either. This would end up being a lot of trouble for CCI to implement.

I have to agree.  New York has a reserved section they clear and everyone just leaves there and starts searching for a seat.  For packed panels, it makes it so that those waiting outside don't really get a chance.

Clearing the panels, in general, is a pain if your area isn't set up right.  I have noticed a lot of cons moving away from this practice.  The key to making it successful is having a separate entrance from the exit.  Hall H just isn't set up to do that.  Ballroom 20 could do it, but it would have an issue with people wanting to line up for individual panels.  They don't have room for 12 lines.  Sure they could say you can't line up until an hour before but policing that would be impossible and cause chaos.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on January 14, 2020, 08:47:06 AM
The real solution is to live stream the panels somehow, so folks not in the room can see everything (including the footage).  For the most part, few studios don't release their sizzle reel/trailer during or immediately following the panel anyway (Marvel still keeps their panel footage special: anyone else know of a studio that has panel-only footage?).  Studios have realized the best marketing strategy is to release the teaser right after the panel, so the footage isn't so "Top Secret" the way it used to be for the most part.  They could utilize, say, Petco Park (when there aren't a plethora of huge concerts in there like 2020  :-[ ) and stream the entire panel w/footage.  I suspect that would 1) make the lines significantly shorter for panels (maybe mostly non-existent as we'd be talking about maybe a couple thousand die-hards for Hall H).
Petco is obviously problematic, but if CCI utilized some sort of overflow room to show ALL of the panels (questions, footage, etc) I think a lot of line problems would be solved.  I suspect studios like the hype up the "waited in line for 30+ hours for our panel!" stuff so they probably wouldn't go for that anyway.  I think the solution isn't clearing rooms arbitrarily, or lotto or whatnot: it's accommodating everyone.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sessionka on January 14, 2020, 10:04:07 AM
I'm actually in favor of not changing the process at all.  I attended the NYCC where they had a lottery for panels.  I didn't win for the panel I wanted to get into, but I got on line anyway, and got in.  Logistically, they have to have a large area for those people that are on line.

Planning your panel schedule is part of the experience, and of course hard decisions have to be made. 

I do love discovering new fandoms as a result of sitting thru panels before the panel I planned to attend.  Those experiences have enriched my entertainment viewing, and are some of the reasons I come back every year. 

I recommend the SDCC Unofficial Blog.  They do a review of the schedule before the Con, with an assessment of your chances of getting into a room.  I always tune in.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 14, 2020, 04:06:39 PM
Appreciating this discussion! :)
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: kmy on January 14, 2020, 04:37:28 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I attended the NYCC where they had a lottery for panels.
I recommend the SDCC Unofficial Blog.  They do a review of the schedule before the Con, with an assessment of your chances of getting into a room.  I always tune in.

Does NYCC lottery all their panels or just the big ones?
SDCC Unofficial Blog does do such a great job with their pre-Con coverage.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: rabbitwarren on January 14, 2020, 06:18:38 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Does NYCC lottery all their panels or just the big ones?
SDCC Unofficial Blog does do such a great job with their pre-Con coverage.

NYCC does a lottery for half the seats at panels in the main stage and Hammerstein and MSG. You can still get in by lining up. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sessionka on January 14, 2020, 07:19:58 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
NYCC does a lottery for half the seats at panels in the main stage and Hammerstein and MSG. You can still get in by lining up.

I didn't know that.  Do they publicize that information?
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: debster on January 15, 2020, 04:28:21 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I didn't know that.  Do they publicize that information?

Yes. They send out a bunch of emails and tweets to try to get everyone to enter the lottery. They also have one for autograph sessions and exclusives like LEGO and the Funko booth. I’ve rarely won the lottery at NYCC, but I’ve never had an issue getting into a panel that I wanted to see.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sessionka on January 15, 2020, 06:48:51 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Yes. They send out a bunch of emails and tweets to try to get everyone to enter the lottery. They also have one for autograph sessions and exclusives like LEGO and the Funko booth. I’ve rarely won the lottery at NYCC, but I’ve never had an issue getting into a panel that I wanted to see.

Sorry I should have been more clear.

I meant do they advertise that the lottery is for half the seats.  I've never seen that statement, but then again I'm not as diligent about reading notifications from NYCC.
Title: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: debster on January 15, 2020, 08:00:05 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Sorry I should have been more clear.

I meant do they advertise that the lottery is for half the seats.  I've never seen that statement, but then again I'm not as diligent about reading notifications from NYCC.

I don’t recall whether they put a number on what gets reserved through the lottery. They mix it up every year though, I believe last year was the first year they did lotteries for Hammerstein and Madison Square Garden. They only clear the main stage room though so you can camp out all day at Hammerstein and Madison Square Garden if you want to.

They always stress that even if you don’t win the lottery, there are still seats available if you are willing to wait in line (or get your badge tapped in the morning for the main stage panels at the convention center). I don’t think they’ve ever done a lottery for a panel that was for all the seats.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: rabbitwarren on January 15, 2020, 09:47:31 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I didn't know that.  Do they publicize that information?

The way the main stage worked was similar to CCI does Hall H.  People got their badges swiped the morning of to get yourself entry for later in the day.  This year and in 2018, the first year they had the lottery, they still were doing the badge swiping in the morning for the main stage panels.  I'm not sure how it worked for Hammerstein but for Main Stage, I have never had a problem getting in if I didn't win the lottery. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 15, 2020, 11:49:08 AM
 At first I didn't care for the lottery idea, but having some of the seats be secured via lottery sounds better to me now. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: chocolateshake on January 15, 2020, 12:06:50 PM
I never liked the lotteries and I still don't.  The people that put in the most effort should be the ones that get the prize.  That's not me by the way.

The problems I see it is line cutting and people holding places for other people.  Those are the issues that need to be addressed.  I think the only people opposed to fighting line cutting are the line cutters.  But I see one person holding spots for 4 or even 6 other people to be just as bad.  Line cutting by any other name.  If you are going to stand in line, then stand in line.

There is a technological solution to all this.  No amount of badge scanning will solve it since one person can scan 6 other people's badges.  Facial recognition has come of age.  No one even explicitly needs to be scanned while in line.  They can just have cameras up along the line and it'll keep track of who has been in line and for how long.  Set some threshold like you've been in line for 4 hours and you get in.  Otherwise you get turned away at the door.  That will kill line cutting.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: stl_ben on January 15, 2020, 01:37:38 PM
If you actually had to stand in line, while not ideal, I would accept it as an ok form of filling up the Hall.  But as is, what 25% of the people going in the hall are actually in the line at any give time as you can hold a spot for 5 people and still be by the rules.  So the line system isn't rewarding those that want to put in the time, its rewarding those that have groups or in some cases....those that can pay some one to hold their spot.

I would try for way more panels if it was random like signings and big booths are, but as its not I don't want to sit through 5 other panels to wait for the one I want.  If I can walk into a panel I will...but again everyone cons differently.  Due to the way I con, I usually only check out 4-6 panels a year.

I do understand the logistics of clearing the hall would be hard, and may even need to wait for whatever expansion the convention center has next to make an exit on the other side of the building.  That being said every other convention I go to clears halls to some extent and I hope SDCC does at some point as well.

Not complaining...just sharing my point of view.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sessionka on January 15, 2020, 02:25:20 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I would try for way more panels if it was random like signings and big booths are, but as its not I don't want to sit through 5 other panels to wait for the one I want.  If I can walk into a panel I will...but again everyone cons differently.  Due to the way I con, I usually only check out 4-6 panels a year.


I've made a conscious decision to pretty much exclude Hall-H from my Con.   As a matter of fact, my first year (2015) I didn't know anything about it.  Still had an absolute blast!

Having said that, I think it really depends on if the big studios come to the Con.  From what I heard and experienced during 2018, the year Marvel didn't come, it was a lot easier to get into Hall-H.  I actually heard an attendee say it was so easy for him to get in, that he felt like he didn't earn it.   :) .   Keeping that in mind, I don't see CCI making any major changes to the process, when the demand for Hall-H may not be consistent.



Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 15, 2020, 02:35:39 PM
As an aside, last year I walked into the Game of Throne panel (it was already in session)...and got a fabulous swag bag.  I had not been in Hall H in a couple of years and just gave it a try.  Glad I did.  Shhh...I only watched the first half of the first season of GOT...you know...Drago  and all...:D
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: Kfrye on January 15, 2020, 06:11:38 PM


You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

There is a technological solution to all this.  No amount of badge scanning will solve it since one person can scan 6 other people's badges.  Facial recognition has come of age.  No one even explicitly needs to be scanned while in line.  They can just have cameras up along the line and it'll keep track of who has been in line and for how long.  Set some threshold like you've been in line for 4 hours and you get in.  Otherwise you get turned away at the door.  That will kill line cutting.

You are overestimating both the technology available and SDCC's ability and resources to implement it. They don't have a team of engineers to implement image recognition and it's not like you can buy a software package like that off the shelf. (There was a job listing for a software dev position for them last year. They expect you to double as an IT person during the con. No thank you!) And even if you did have something like that... What about all the people in costumes and crazy makeup? They would be screwed. How horrible would it be to wait all day and then be denied when the software didn't work for you?

The main problem with line cutting this year is that usually, there's a wall or fence in the back of the crowd. So it's so much harder for people to sneak under the ribbon. Last year, they put the ribbon on the water side with just a parking lot behind the people in line. And they didn't hand out the wristbands until it was totally dark. I was lucky enough to be with a group in the front, and we made sure that everyone with us belonged while we were waiting, but when the blinky lights came, it was total chaos and it was dark and I can't guarantee that no one sneaked in behind us to get an illicit wristband. I would have been much more comfortable with a barrier of some sort behind us. Investing in a temporary fence would help and be a heck of a lot cheaper than implementing image recognition software!

Of course, then there was the year with the Viking funeral, and I heard a bunch of people cut into the line there. It's always something. The system isn't great, but it can be navigated. It does encourage people working together in big groups, which can be a lot of fun just on their own if you have the right people. My group is half the reason why I love SDCC.

Sent from my moto x4 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: kmy on January 15, 2020, 09:21:38 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

It does encourage people working together in big groups, which can be a lot of fun just on their own if you have the right people. My group is half the reason why I love SDCC.

Absolutely. The satisfaction of holding the place at 4 a.m. while your new line friend who's dressed as Janet from The Good Place goes to pee and get street pretzels is something I couldn't quite articulate to an acquaintance last night.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: tsnyder on January 16, 2020, 08:00:13 AM
Love to hear all the different opinions and input on Hall H.  Me personally I am NOT a fan of the lotteries, big believer of if you put in the work you get the reward.  Take the exclusives and signings, I put in for random stuff that I don't care that much about because I have the points to spend.  Lucky for fans I don't win any of them so I'm not taking a spot from someone who loves that fandom  :P   This will be my 7th year going and for the last 4 years I've been spending the majority of my con in Hall H.  For some that might seem like a waste or bad idea but for me that's the part of SDCC I love the most so thats where I dedicate most of my time.  I can be honest and say that wouldn't be possible at all without me working with a group so thats what I do to make it happen.  I know there are those that are against being able to hold spots and I can respect that. But without my group I couldn't have seen all the Hall H panels I've wanted to, same goes for couple times we've paired up to do EE line for Ballroom 20. Each year SDCC has made slight alterations to the Hall H process adding wristbands, RFID scanning, NDL procedures, etc and seems to constantly tweak to try and make it best experience for everyone.  Those changes have also gotten rid of a lot of cheaters.  I'm an obsessive rule follower so we strictly stay within SDCC guidelines for lining up.   I think one of the bigger issues is not the holding spots for 5 but groups that ignore those restrictions completely.   >:(  Another point to remember for those that don't like the NDL lineup and camping out for Hall H is if those thousands of people that are under the tents and in those lines weren't there they would be on the exhibit floor or in those small panels you like to just walk into.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: stl_ben on January 16, 2020, 09:41:12 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I've made a conscious decision to pretty much exclude Hall-H from my Con.   As a matter of fact, my first year (2015) I didn't know anything about it.  Still had an absolute blast!

Having said that, I think it really depends on if the big studios come to the Con.  From what I heard and experienced during 2018, the year Marvel didn't come, it was a lot easier to get into Hall-H.  I actually heard an attendee say it was so easy for him to get in, that he felt like he didn't earn it.   :) .   Keeping that in mind, I don't see CCI making any major changes to the process, when the demand for Hall-H may not be consistent.
Yeah I'm similar.  Done one or two Hall H panels each of the last 3 years, but soley ones at the end of the day or sunday when I can walk in.  Have seen:
- Kevin Smith
- Doctor Who
- His Dark Materials
- Dirk Gently

3 of those being properties I really like, HDM just went in to check it out (still on the fence about the show).  I don't mind being in the back of the room, just happy to get in and sit down and rest for awhile.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on January 16, 2020, 10:53:51 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Yeah I'm similar.  Done one or two Hall H panels each of the last 3 years, but soley ones at the end of the day or sunday when I can walk in.  Have seen:
- Kevin Smith
- Doctor Who
- His Dark Materials
- Dirk Gently

3 of those being properties I really like, HDM just went in to check it out (still on the fence about the show).  I don't mind being in the back of the room, just happy to get in and sit down and rest for awhile.
I love Hall H, and I've been going to big Hall H panels since Hall H first opened at Comic-Con.  BITD I would typically spend Thurs-Sat. in Hall H: before one had to camp out 24+ hours for a day.  Nowadays I typically pick one day that has the most bang for my 'buck' (i.e. time) and go for it with a line-up group.
But I think nowadays, with the web being what it is and studio marketing departments releasing the footage immediately anyways (with rare exceptions, like Marvel for the most part), I get why people make the decision to skip it.  I typically only go to panels to see the footage: I don't care about seeing stars on a stage, and most of the questions are fluff anyway (and covered ad nauseam online), so I'm all about seeing cool footage with a great crowd.  Studios didn't use to release any footage until much later, if ever.  Now Marvel seems to be the biggest hold out for releasing footage.  So for folks like me they could typically just skip Hall H, watch the footage later & read the coverage for all the best news, and spend their time elsewhere.

I'm a junkie, myself.  I've only missed one Marvel Studios panel in the history of the studio, and there are few things as fun as being a part of that crazy excitement/energy in Hall H immediately before + during a Marvel panel.  Same with WB when they bring the huge wrap-around screens (I missed 'em last year :( ).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 16, 2020, 11:21:01 AM
For the sheer size of it, experiencing an exciting panel in Hall H, is, well...exciting. From my limited experience, I also liked keeping an eye out watching the staff try to keep seats filled, and bringing folk in efficiently to fill empties.  The staff is constantly on the move and their communication can be a lovely thing to see. There are some skilled folk working in there and I give them thumbs waaaay up!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: marcia29 on January 16, 2020, 11:41:27 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
The real solution is to live stream the panels somehow, so folks not in the room can see everything (including the footage).  For the most part, few studios don't release their sizzle reel/trailer during or immediately following the panel anyway (Marvel still keeps their panel footage special: anyone else know of a studio that has panel-only footage?).  Studios have realized the best marketing strategy is to release the teaser right after the panel, so the footage isn't so "Top Secret" the way it used to be for the most part.  They could utilize, say, Petco Park (when there aren't a plethora of huge concerts in there like 2020  :-[ ) and stream the entire panel w/footage.  I suspect that would 1) make the lines significantly shorter for panels (maybe mostly non-existent as we'd be talking about maybe a couple thousand die-hards for Hall H).
Petco is obviously problematic, but if CCI utilized some sort of overflow room to show ALL of the panels (questions, footage, etc) I think a lot of line problems would be solved.  I suspect studios like the hype up the "waited in line for 30+ hours for our panel!" stuff so they probably wouldn't go for that anyway.  I think the solution isn't clearing rooms arbitrarily, or lotto or whatnot: it's accommodating everyone.

@perc2100 (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=380) Yet, being in the same space, breathing the same air that has been electrified by a panel of my faves, or by some new announcement is incredible fun. Watching on a screen somewhere else cannot compare with that enjoyment!
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: sessionka on January 16, 2020, 11:51:53 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Love to hear all the different opinions and input on Hall H.  ....  :P   This will be my 7th year going and for the last 4 years I've been spending the majority of my con in Hall H.  For some that might seem like a waste or bad idea but for me that's the part of SDCC I love the most so thats where I dedicate most of my time.  .

You don't have to justify how you're going to spend your time at Comic Con.  IMO, the beauty of Comic Con, is that there is so much to see and do, that each of us can choose how to spend our time in a way that gives us the most enjoyment. 
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: kmy on January 16, 2020, 09:34:40 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
@perc2100 (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=380) Yet, being in the same space, breathing the same air that has been electrified by a panel of my faves, or by some new announcement is incredible fun. Watching on a screen somewhere else cannot compare with that enjoyment!

And see I'm the perfect audience for a simulcast, or even the playback they currently do later in the day.  I love the Hall H fanfare and the fun announcements and the casts always seem to be at their best, but I don't feel the need to be on site at the minute it happens. So I'm the perfect candidate for an alternate room and you can have my Hall H seat. As long as I see it within a few hours I'm cool. I do miss the swag but that's the breaks since it is the reward for camping.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: stl_ben on January 17, 2020, 05:50:32 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
And see I'm the perfect audience for a simulcast, or even the playback they currently do later in the day.  I love the Hall H fanfare and the fun announcements and the casts always seem to be at their best, but I don't feel the need to be on site at the minute it happens. So I'm the perfect candidate for an alternate room and you can have my Hall H seat. As long as I see it within a few hours I'm cool. I do miss the swag but that's the breaks since it is the reward for camping.
Agree there are a ton of panels I would watch if they were projected on a big inflatable screen outside somewhere.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: NuncleJoel on January 21, 2020, 03:38:53 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I have to agree.  New York has a reserved section they clear and everyone just leaves there and starts searching for a seat.  For packed panels, it makes it so that those waiting outside don't really get a chance.

Clearing the panels, in general, is a pain if your area isn't set up right.  I have noticed a lot of cons moving away from this practice.  The key to making it successful is having a separate entrance from the exit.  Hall H just isn't set up to do that.  Ballroom 20 could do it, but it would have an issue with people wanting to line up for individual panels.  They don't have room for 12 lines.  Sure they could say you can't line up until an hour before but policing that would be impossible and cause chaos.

Your hour suggestion would create a lot of “lines” that aren’t lines


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: NuncleJoel on January 21, 2020, 03:42:00 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
I'm actually in favor of not changing the process at all.  I attended the NYCC where they had a lottery for panels.  I didn't win for the panel I wanted to get into, but I got on line anyway, and got in.  Logistically, they have to have a large area for those people that are on line.

Planning your panel schedule is part of the experience, and of course hard decisions have to be made. 

I do love discovering new fandoms as a result of sitting thru panels before the panel I planned to attend.  Those experiences have enriched my entertainment viewing, and are some of the reasons I come back every year. 

I recommend the SDCC Unofficial Blog.  They do a review of the schedule before the Con, with an assessment of your chances of getting into a room.  I always tune in.

It also forces you to pick and choose.  Part of the fun is going to a panel that you don’t plan on attending.  These are usually my favorite panels of the con.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: stl_ben on January 22, 2020, 06:51:07 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Part of the fun is going to a panel that you don’t plan on attending. 
Whats part of the fun for one person, can be something someone else hates.....just sayin.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: miclpea on February 19, 2020, 06:53:01 AM
I think Dune 2020 will be worth lining up for.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: RustyPonds on February 20, 2020, 11:37:25 AM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
It also forces you to pick and choose.  Part of the fun is going to a panel that you don’t plan on attending.  These are usually my favorite panels of the con.

Agreed. I enjoy the animation panel on Saturdays in Hall H and I think it's my gf's favorite thing. Would never line up for that otherwise (which is of course why they stick it in there, lol).
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: rabbitwarren on February 20, 2020, 05:52:30 PM
I will be interested to see if Witcher comes back and the people who are at the panel are actually interested in it, now that it’s one of Netflix’s most popular shows. Last year, everybody was there for GoT. Same thing was the case for Dark Crystal.
Title: Re: Hall H advice and tips
Post by: perc2100 on February 21, 2020, 01:08:37 PM
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
@perc2100 (https://www.friendsofcc.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=380) Yet, being in the same space, breathing the same air that has been electrified by a panel of my faves, or by some new announcement is incredible fun. Watching on a screen somewhere else cannot compare with that enjoyment!
Oh, I agree.  That palpable energy during a Marvel panel is something that's impossible to describe.  I mean, last year the Marvel panel was great and it was essentially a ton of hot air + plethora of celebrities with very little of substance to tell or show the crowd but I don't regret any time spent waiting in lines for that!