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Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Berts on April 24, 2018, 12:37:48 PM
I've been attending SDCC since 2008 and watched the popularity of the convention absolutely skyrocket with the addition of Hollywood.

Every year though, it seems more studios/companies/productions pull out of SDCC. With Marvel not doing a Hall H panel this year, it go me thinking.

Has SDCC started its descent in popularity/relevance?

Most major movie studios have abandoned SDCC, the freebies/handouts have decreased both in quantity and quality, Disney chooses to showcase almost all of their stuff at D23 now and continues to gobble up more entertainment, Lionsgate pulled out of the deal with Comic-Con HQ, Nerd HQ is no more, Conival has decreased in scope and size, and the general craziness/fervor just seems less now.

What do you think? Am I crazy?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: TardisMom on April 24, 2018, 12:47:56 PM
I've been wondering the same thing, especially with Disney using D23 for their projects.  It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mark on April 24, 2018, 12:52:16 PM
I don't know how much this means, but I was surprised at how much easier it was to get a volunteer spot this year.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on April 24, 2018, 01:23:04 PM
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I've been attending SDCC since 2008 and watched the popularity of the convention absolutely skyrocket with the addition of Hollywood.

Every year though, it seems more studios/companies/productions pull out of SDCC. With Marvel not doing a Hall H panel this year, it go me thinking.

Has SDCC started its descent in popularity/relevance?

Most major movie studios have abandoned SDCC, the freebies/handouts have decreased both in quantity and quality, Disney chooses to showcase almost all of their stuff at D23 now and continues to gobble up more entertainment, Lionsgate pulled out of the deal with Comic-Con HQ, Nerd HQ is no more, Conival has decreased in scope and size, and the general craziness/fervor just seems less now.

What do you think? Am I crazy?

I'm not sure the general craziness is any less now than a decade ago: it's certainly still WAY crazier than it was in 2006 or 2007 or so.
But studios I think are realizing that it's potentially cost-prohibitive to go all-in at Comic-Con.  There is not an explicit cause/effect of "SDCCI popularity equals high BO returns" so studio heads and accountants may not want to put tons of money into it like they did at the height.  I think TV presence is a LOT more than what it was a decade ago, and of course it's still THE convention for comics.

I think CCI is cooling off for film studios but I don't think that equals a general 'less popular' vibe.  I don't think it'll ever be as chill as it was when I first started going in 2000 but we may have definitely seen the peak of popularity and we're on a very slight, gentle down-turn
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on April 24, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
It might.  Which is both good and bad.  Good because it'll be less competitive for things like badges and hotels going forward. But bad, of course, because the quality of things like you've mentioned (panel options, freebies, etc) would go down.  I'm an SDCC For Life type of person, so even if Marvel pulled out of the con completely I think I'll always go.  SDCC and this forum in particular is like a family to me.  But a lot of people wouldn't go without these things and, hey, that's just how convention culture is I guess.  I'm not sure D23 will ever be as big as SDCC, though.  Even if they horde Marvel and Star Wars to themselves.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Mel on April 24, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
I too will always go. I could care less if Marvel is there. If that's the only reason some people go, those are weird priorities in my mind. Every turn, every nook, every cranny holds something truly delightful at SDCC. Hall H is really the least of it for me, up until last year, I'd never done the Hall H line or been in it other than a Sunday!

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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 24, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Seeing how things have changed or are changing from what i read and all, i know i use to go around 2k before the badge sales started to be sold online only. i have walked into a panel room and chilled with others for marvel panels back when ang lee did hulk and x-men stuff first started i think, daredevil came out with affleck. also terminator movies like t3 based on footage they showed, ecks vs sever. so i have had chance to see marvels panels and not gotta wait in line all nite and day to see it lol. so it has changed alot to where u gotta deal with line cutters and other hassles. also get comics signed for free compared to know from some comic makers. get or got some cool free swag compared to now. i dont remember con goers being vultures just for swag when i went lol. there was no funko lol. it has grown alot cause now days compared to before, u didnt have to go upstairs to sails for any celebs signings. it was all downstairs if i remember right. saw kelly hu at a booth. hercules sister from hercules series. richard hatch from battlestar galactica by chance and had chance chat him some. james cameron walked by me and a friend once and we had no clue it was him till others told us lol. got free witchblade action figure and the top flap signed by the designer or figure maker. so just some stuff remember of years past. also saw lou ferigno in person from a far but was too nervous or saw was charging so didnt chance not have funds for any so didnt even try say hi which i wish i had at time since liked him and still do as playing the hulk in tv series. hope all this makes since try say by what i remember lol. also even though was told pictures didnt come out right, met stan winston creator of all the terminator robots.

hope was readable since i know seems just rambling lol.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Chris on April 24, 2018, 02:41:00 PM
I've been going since before the big Hollywood panels and will go after they have gone (if they do).  :)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 24, 2018, 02:50:32 PM
I think if they loose traffic for any reason, it just makes getting badges easier cause not as many are trying to buy as they do now. and be less traffic so more open space so not have staff be yelling to keep moving anytime. if they loose traffic just cause a studio or studios pull out then to me it shows they only go to see studios share stuff and loose the fun of why the con was started and all. so many try to go but cant cause badges are a pain to get now, that if u decide stop going then there are plenty who will take ur spot anytime to say they was able to go to con any year.
Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on April 24, 2018, 03:15:17 PM
I, for one, am NOT thinking that SDCC has peaked or is in a “gentle decline.” Marvel stayed away a couple of years ago and returned the next year. Marvel shows us the good stuff when they have the best stuff to show us. Things change, yes. but it’s not worse. It’s not in decline; it’s just different. I grieve the loss of NerdHQ too, but the number of offsites has exploded. I still think SDCC is more popular than ever, and it hasn’t reached the apex... yet. Next year is the big Five O. How crazy will it be to get that badge?


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 24, 2018, 04:01:30 PM
The place is packed and it feels like there are practically overnight lines for stale nachos, much less any decent panels. I just don't feel like the crowds are going away...
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Michael M on April 24, 2018, 04:02:28 PM
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The place is packed and it feels like there are practically overnight lines for stale nachos, much less any decent panels. I just don't feel like the crowds are going away...
mmm...nachos... :)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: jamiesugah on April 24, 2018, 07:57:26 PM
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I've been wondering the same thing, especially with Disney using D23 for their projects.

Disney figured it could have its own convention and make more money. It's a very Disney thing to do.

The way I see it, as long as tickets sell out in, like, an hour, then SDCC is still pretty darn popular. It's when people stop wanting to go that they have to worry, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: susanml10881 on April 24, 2018, 07:58:46 PM
I don't think it's peaked yet. Last year was crazier than before imo. And I stayed away from Hall h. Others pick up the slack so to speak for the big film studios. And they might return. You have marvel tv, Netflix and others still. Video games, publishers, networks. Cons are still popular, given the proliferation of them, and SDCC will still be one of the top ones. I've been going since before it sold out, like when you could buy your badge for next year on site with a discount, no line. I might stop in a few years though, for other reasons.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 24, 2018, 08:15:55 PM
You are not crazy.

CCI peaked in attendance and relevancy a few years ago. It is in a slow "decline", if that's the right word, in terms of the industry and it's importance. The crowds aren't going anywhere but it is a different type of crowd.
For the movie industry, some of it dates back to Scott Pilgrim. It was extremely hyped at comic con but withered at the box office. Others like Cowboys Vs Aliens demonstrated that screaming comic con crowds do not translate into ticket sales.
Now, with the media conglomerates, they can have their own conventions and control everything from venue to media.

To be continued...
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 24, 2018, 08:32:35 PM
Attendance has peaked for years now. It can not get any larger at it has maxed out the available space at the convention center and hotels within a mile.
As it is unlikely the convention center will expand as CCI wanted it to, that's it. It can not grow. Sure, there will be "improvements" to the convention center, but the local taxpayer will isn't there to expand it. Even CCI has pulled back on the expansion and is talking about hotel rooms. But even another 1000 rooms downtown will not meet the market.

What helped comic con grow was the explosion of Hall H, when people started camping out. It was the Twilight and Harry Potter franchises that spurred this, with a dash of David Tennant. The infusion of a large female demographic pushed comic con beyond it's humble origins. Unfortunately,
 nothing has replaced it.

More to come...
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on April 24, 2018, 08:34:06 PM
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You are not crazy.

CCI peaked in attendance and relevancy a few years ago. It is in a slow "decline", if that's the right word, in terms of the industry and it's importance. The crowds aren't going anywhere but it is a different type of crowd.
For the movie industry, some of it dates back to Scott Pilgrim. It was extremely hyped at comic con but withered at the box office. Others like Cowboys Vs Aliens demonstrated that screaming comic con crowds do not translate into ticket sales.
Now, with the media conglomerates, they can have their own conventions and control everything from venue to media.

To be continued...

I don’t believe Iron Man would have taken off like it did without its huge reception at SDCC

The hype of Joss’s surprise announcement of his directing Avengers followed by bringing out the whole cast was a HUGE launch into the golden age of the MCU. Pilgrim be damned! There’s good hype and bad hype. Marvel isn’t coming this year because they know how to time their big events. They’ll be back next year. Everybody has a Con now and they’re shamelessly (yes I mean you Salt Lake!) trying to copy SDCC. This Con is not declining. If anything, it’s suffering from being too big.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 24, 2018, 08:45:18 PM
In the past couple of years, panels that would have once been impossible to get into do not fill up. Now, once the campers get in, one can walk into hall h with no problem for most panels. Doctor Who was the canary in the mineshaft for hall h. Many studios prefer a pretty full ballroom 20 than a hall h with hundreds of empty seats.

Next, rise of the exclusives...
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 24, 2018, 09:03:45 PM
Once upon a con, exclusives where just that, a small number of items exclusive to comic con. Then, when vendors saw that people where throwing all kinds of cash at them, everyone has not just one, but multiple exclusives now. How long is the list now?
And in many instances, you can buy the same item later at another convention or online. Legos and funkos still draw big numbers but the flipper market has contracted.

Other areas of contraction, which others have noted are:
The demise of Nerd HQ.
The demise of the Alter-con (what was the name?)
The demise of Nerdist events. No more nerdist live. Like the studios, the return wasn't worth the investment.
The demise of large offsite exhibits (Godzilla) and storefronts (king of nerds cereal bar, practical jokers, etc.).
Only Snoopy hangs on.

...

Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 24, 2018, 09:20:08 PM
A couple of years ago, at the park across from the Embassy Suites, there was a comic con offsite music event there. I forget what the admission was supposed to be but attendance was so dire, that one could walk in and enjoy the DJs and watch a 6th Doctor dance to the Doctor Who theme song. There were maybe 50 people there at it's short lived peak but mostly a couple of dozen die hards. We picked up many givaways, glowing things and those overpriced Simpson's tyvek  wallets. I still have some laying around.

Oh yeah, remember Enchantment Under the SDCC? It is in Davy Jones locker.
Does USA Today's Pop Candy still have a meetup and exclusive poster? Those were a thing once.

Times have changed.

Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 24, 2018, 09:24:23 PM
I know I am going on and on, but bert's post has caused me to express what I have noticed in the past 15 years.
I remember when to registration was all on paper and if you registered for the next year, it was $35.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on April 24, 2018, 09:30:48 PM


To be continued...
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You weren’t kidding.



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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Mel on April 24, 2018, 09:35:59 PM
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I know I am going on and on, but bert's post has caused me to express what I have noticed in the past 15 years.
I remember when to registration was all on paper and if you registered for the next year, it was $35.
You should just go edit a post. We are not supposed to make multiple posts in a row.

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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 25, 2018, 02:35:26 AM
I think the landscape has just changed. TV is all the rage now so the tv studios are going to have a bigger presence. Thursday Hall H wasn’t so difficult to get into last year but Friday, with Walking Dead and a Game of Thrones, last year was still impossible. . 

As for freebies...  here’s some anedoctal information from someone who works in “experiential” marketing. The big trend is people living minimal lifestyles, so they don’t want things. They instead want “experiences”. The Westworld Experience last year is a great example. While the hat was great, it’s sitting in a closet now, collecting dust. On the other hand, I still frequently talk about that experience at work, right down to the drinks they served.

At work, we often get the “leftovers” from our corporate events. And outside of the high quality stuff (like the windbreakers and fleeces and the star destroyer model) they all just collect dust. Because no one wants a polo or T-shirt with our clients logo.

Anyway, point is, the market changes and so do the companies. From my own perspective, SDCC is still a viable platform given I have 100K + eyeballs right there and god knows how much more impressions in the media. How a company chooses to activate at SDCC is going to change though.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: marcia29 on April 25, 2018, 05:45:27 AM
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...The big trend is people living minimal lifestyles, so they don’t want things. They instead want “experiences”.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login - very interesting.  Is this trend appearing more in younger people or across the age spectrum?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on April 25, 2018, 05:56:28 AM
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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login - very interesting.  Is this trend appearing more in younger people or across the age spectrum?
I’m 61. This will be my 10th SDCC. I’ve attended just a few other cons, like WonderCon this year. I’m a focus group of one, but as an “old guy” I’m definitely more interested in experiences than “stuff.”


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 25, 2018, 06:00:28 AM
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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login - very interesting.  Is this trend appearing more in younger people or across the age spectrum?

More the younger spectrum. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/shoppers-are-choosing-experiences-over-stuff-and-thats-bad-news-for-retailers/2016/01/07/eaa80b5a-b4a7-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.500f07855c54

I myself am well past 30 but I live a very "streamlined" existence but that's mainly a function of where I live, as I don't have a lot of space to accumulate stuff. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on April 25, 2018, 06:10:06 AM
I do like getting swag, but not junk. I definitely love my WestWorld hat. This freebie crap they hand out like candy at a parade at many booths both big name and small is a total waste to me. I occasionally grab some of it in case someone wants it at the swag swap on Sunday night.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: marcia29 on April 25, 2018, 06:11:49 AM
I remember comedian George Carlin doing a bit about all of the stuff we accumulate.  Great 'stuff!' :)

Come to think of it, I am much more picky with freebies.  I adored the Share Week bag, that had a crossover strap.  I gave to away to someone who actually uses it.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: marcia29 on April 25, 2018, 06:24:30 AM
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More the younger spectrum. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/shoppers-are-choosing-experiences-over-stuff-and-thats-bad-news-for-retailers/2016/01/07/eaa80b5a-b4a7-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.500f07855c54

Hmm...methinks this trend may actually increase popularity because of the 'experience' of being at SDCC.  It is pretty special.  Ain't nothin' like being there, 'tis true.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: dkd on April 25, 2018, 06:39:01 AM
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I've been attending SDCC since 2008 and watched the popularity of the convention absolutely skyrocket with the addition of Hollywood.

Every year though, it seems more studios/companies/productions pull out of SDCC. With Marvel not doing a Hall H panel this year, it go me thinking.

Has SDCC started its descent in popularity/relevance?

Most major movie studios have abandoned SDCC, the freebies/handouts have decreased both in quantity and quality, Disney chooses to showcase almost all of their stuff at D23 now and continues to gobble up more entertainment, Lionsgate pulled out of the deal with Comic-Con HQ, Nerd HQ is no more, Conival has decreased in scope and size, and the general craziness/fervor just seems less now.

What do you think? Am I crazy?

In popular culture criticism, some people are saying "TV is the new Film".  The medium attracts better talent behind the camera and in front of it than it ever has.  There are corrently almost 500 scripted TV series in production.  While film is decreasing, TV seems to be doing just fine.  The only difference is that TV as a medium is larger than any individual show due to the fractionalization of the audience.

Until I see fewer people going for badges, I don't think we are seeing a decline in popularity.  I also think a few entities over-stepped in terms of scope and need to retrench.

I think that a Comic-con that is popular as a whole, but where attendees aren't all trying to get into one or two things, but are more scattered, is a better convention.

A few people above have pointed to the demise of Nerd HQ and other offsites as examples.  These aren't examples of a decline in popularity.  They were popular.  They are examples of poor business models.  They couldn't sustain themselves financially despite many attendees.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Mel on April 25, 2018, 07:03:50 AM
Yeah, the logic here could be applied to movies. They don't sell like they used to, but TV is out of control. SDCC gets lots of the huge TV shows and they aren't showing any signs of dropping out. I disagree with the assessment that SDCC is waning because large movie panels have scaled back. Means nothing in the larger picture.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Mario Wario on April 25, 2018, 08:47:23 AM
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I too will always go. I could care less if Marvel is there. If that's the only reason some people go, those are weird priorities in my mind. Every turn, every nook, every cranny holds something truly delightful at SDCC. Hall H is really the least of it for me, up until last year, I'd never done the Hall H line or been in it other than a Sunday!

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The place is packed and it feels like there are practically overnight lines for stale nachos, much less any decent panels. I just don't feel like the crowds are going away...

What Mel and TJ said—both posts perfectly sums up what I wanted to say. Unless something weird happens, SDCC will be fine and be crowded each year.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Emerald_Mom on April 25, 2018, 08:49:44 AM
I don't need the big movie studios.... have never had a problem finding something that I wanted to do or see. And I can't imagine that will change anytime soon.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Kevin Rutan on April 25, 2018, 09:29:31 AM
It seems like the decrease in movie studio representation has coincided with an increase in streaming service representation so the amount of content is about the same. If there gas been a popularity drop off it isn't much yet.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on April 25, 2018, 10:07:48 AM
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What Mel and TJ said—both posts perfectly sums up what I wanted to say. Unless something weird happens, SDCC will be fine and be crowded each year.
100% agree.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on April 25, 2018, 10:50:10 AM
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I've been going since before the big Hollywood panels and will go after they have gone (if they do).  :)
When would that've been?  I mean, the original Star Wars had a Comic-Con panel in 1975.  You mean pre-Hall H shenanigans?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on April 25, 2018, 11:13:32 AM
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You are not crazy.

CCI peaked in attendance and relevancy a few years ago. It is in a slow "decline", if that's the right word, in terms of the industry and it's importance. The crowds aren't going anywhere but it is a different type of crowd.
For the movie industry, some of it dates back to Scott Pilgrim. It was extremely hyped at comic con but withered at the box office. Others like Cowboys Vs Aliens demonstrated that screaming comic con crowds do not translate into ticket sales.
Now, with the media conglomerates, they can have their own conventions and control everything from venue to media.

To be continued...
No, the attendance has eclipsed the max. attendance, with still literally hundreds of thousands trying and failing to score a badge.  Attendance is very healthy and has been for well over a decade.

You're right about studios being much smarter about investing in Comic-Con.  It was unfortunate that a studio thought SCOTT PILGRIM was not indeed a sort of niche of a niche and thought it would somehow have wide mainstream appeal (I was both at the panel and the premier screening in 2010); and COWBOYS & ALIENS is just a flat-out not-so-good movie regardless of talent - again, a weird niche premise w/mainstream hope.
There have been plenty of Comic-Con success stories.  Of course Marvel Studios is the obvious one, but I would say something like DEADPOOL heavily benefited from it's Comic-Con hype.  And of course, KICK a$$ was literally a hit because of Comic-Con: no question about that.  The success stories, though, are essentially "good movies play like gangbusters at SDCCI and then translate to box office while niche or flat-out bad movies don't produce and likely never would have regardless of Comic-Con."  Studios are being smarter about what to bring to Comic-Con and are being far more finicky about what they bring.  Gone are the days where studios throw a ton at the Hall H crowd to see what sticks: we won't see a panel of very mediocre-to-bad panels (like, for example, JONAH HEX, though they really did try hard to sell that snot out of that).  That's not a bad thing.

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Once upon a con, exclusives where just that, a small number of items exclusive to comic con. Then, when vendors saw that people where throwing all kinds of cash at them, everyone has not just one, but multiple exclusives now. How long is the list now?
And in many instances, you can buy the same item later at another convention or online. Legos and funkos still draw big numbers but the flipper market has contracted.

Other areas of contraction, which others have noted are:
The demise of Nerd HQ.
The demise of the Alter-con (what was the name?)
The demise of Nerdist events. No more nerdist live. Like the studios, the return wasn't worth the investment.
The demise of large offsite exhibits (Godzilla) and storefronts (king of nerds cereal bar, practical jokers, etc.).
Only Snoopy hangs on.
...
Ha; the offsite events are alive and strong: I'd say last year's offsite events were not only the biggest ever, but were the best quality.  West World, Blade Runner: all GOAT (so far) offsites.  Part of what I've heard around town is that there are SO MANY requests for offsite that a) it's hard to find appropriate space and b) it can get WAY expensive with locals knowing they can charge a major Hollywood studio BANK to use their warehouse or business for a week and a half.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 25, 2018, 11:32:07 AM
Alot of mixed comments, but seeing how so many try go and miss a chance cause badge sell so fast that i saw alot people tagging others in a fb group last year and it was alot lol. i only discovered volunteer by checking the account and seeing volunteer tab and was thinking why not cause save u a bundle to help for a few ea day and still enjoy the event. not sure how many actually try for a badge and get mad and then try volunteer and get in by that way every year. i think anyone who not able get a badge by sales but by volunteer should be thankful and happy its another option so u not gotta just enjoy off sites every year but get to go in and check out stuff u want and get any free stuff by chance. not sure if to say the bubble burst but they do need more space however they are able to do so overtime. but i think offsite stuff or events helps to keep the center not so crowded at anytime to where u able to walk around in empty space at anytime cause everyone is downstairs, in a panel, or outside checking out stuff around the center.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: tsnyder on April 25, 2018, 11:48:52 AM
I'm on the side that it has NOT decreased in popularity but in my mind dramatically increased.  I don't think the fact that large studios have pulled out of Hall H is an accurate barometer.  TV and streaming services have been supplanting movie ticket sales for years and the movie industry is scrambling to do what they can to still make money.  That is why theaters are converting to luxury seating with way less capacity (can't fill all the seats) to still try and draw in crowds.  Yes movie studios are pulling out of Hall H but those spots are getting replaced with things like Netflix, HBO, and I have a feeling Amazon studios soon.  Disney is just doing their own thing (who else would have the ability to do that) and Marvel is skipping this year because they only come if they have an epic panel to put on, timing just isn't right this year. 

I've only been going for 5 years but if anything think things are even more crowded on the show floor and gas lamp than when I started.  In the last few years SDCC has entered the main stream culture more and more and shows like Conan and Syfy  broadcast from it and I see mention of SDCC on shows like Big Bang Theory etc.  As far as offsites I highly disagree they are on the decline.  As You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login mentioned I think last year had the greatest offsites ever.  I didn't get to most of them (too popular) but we had Westworld, BladeRunner, GOT, Netflix, Walking Dead, Tech Expo, Rick & Morty and Impractical jokers at Petco, Adult Swim, FX area, plus tons and tons more. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 25, 2018, 11:59:54 AM
Having had chance to actually get in last year, that i know to be more selective on swag i want most. i gotta carry a pack around and so need try keep a light as possible cause i know i got sore overtime cause was carrying too much overtime lol. so just gotta take less and try collect less of what i really dont want or need lol. so gotta have a gameplan or u be roaming around and miss stuff cause u didnt plan or not aware of the goods or gems close by.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 25, 2018, 12:43:21 PM
I know it's not a good measure, but right now, the only 2 hotels available on Onpeak are the Hampton Inn and Dana.  Last year, I logged in at various times and saw plenty of other Mission Valley Hotels available. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: susanml10881 on April 25, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
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I know it's not a good measure, but right now, the only 2 hotels available on Onpeak are the Hampton Inn and Dana.  Last year, I logged in at various times and saw plenty of other Mission Valley Hotels available.

Yeah. They even had Downtown hotels on and off before?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cciveg on April 27, 2018, 12:10:50 AM
Exactly, attendance peaked years ago. It hasn't eclipsed, it's plateaud. It can't get any bigger because the venue can't get any bigger. The crowds are bigger as the number of looky-loos has gone up significantly. Go see how many sites tell you how to hack comic-con. That is why the promo off sites are "huge". CCI had a chance to have a massive event of 200,00-250,000 attendees, but now it's stuck. The city is happy because there are those paying over $500 a night for rooms. But more and more of this spending does not benefit CCI.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 27, 2018, 04:01:13 AM
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The city is happy because there are those paying over $500 a night for rooms. But more and more of this spending does not benefit CCI.

If you look at their financials, their revenue has been seeing 10-11 percent increases.

And, as an aside, Vegas hotels are no less likely to gouge during the big events. Rooms at the Venetian are going for 600 on New Years and 900 during CES.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: dkd on April 27, 2018, 07:32:30 AM
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Exactly, attendance peaked years ago. It hasn't eclipsed, it's plateaud. It can't get any bigger because the venue can't get any bigger. The crowds are bigger as the number of looky-loos has gone up significantly. Go see how many sites tell you how to hack comic-con. That is why the promo off sites are "huge". CCI had a chance to have a massive event of 200,00-250,000 attendees, but now it's stuck. The city is happy because there are those paying over $500 a night for rooms. But more and more of this spending does not benefit CCI.

Count me as someone who does not want SDCC to have 200 thousand attendees.  It's big enough.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity
Post by: jontargaryen on April 27, 2018, 10:15:38 AM
I think SDCC’s popularity amoung local SD residents without badges grows every year, especially with all the great off sites. Last year, Saturday was completely insane. So. Many. People.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 27, 2018, 10:40:50 AM
Walking the Exhibit Hall on Saturday will make anyone hope for a day when SDCC becomes unpopular.

If Marvel pulled their booth offsite at SDCC, that would free up most of the unpopular congestion inside the Hall.  DC Comics, lately, created pop up signing booths at other shows, so maybe that'll be a possibility this year?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: jontargaryen on April 27, 2018, 10:56:54 AM
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Walking the Exhibit Hall on Saturday will make anyone hope for a day when SDCC becomes unpopular.

If Marvel pulled their booth offsite at SDCC, that would free up most of the unpopular congestion inside the Hall.  DC Comics, lately, created pop up signing booths at other shows, so maybe that'll be a possibility this year?

It was so bad when the cast of Justice League did their signing at the DC booth. I was literally trapped for 10 minutes. It made no sense either because the DC booth was designed so that you couldn’t see any of the stars from the outside “lanes”. You could literally only see tops of heads! Didn’t stop it from being total pandemonium.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity
Post by: perc2100 on April 27, 2018, 11:37:09 AM
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I think SDCC’s popularity amoung local SD residents without badges grows every year, especially with all the great off sites. Last year, Saturday was completely insane. So. Many. People.
It wasn't long ago where there were a lot of homeless people & families having fun with offsite events.  The year of the giant Homer head/movie for the big anniversary, and some of the adult swim stuff that was by Petco (w/the Meatwad theater and the giant bounce house) I chatted it up quite a bit with some various homeless people who were having Comic-Con fun like the rest of us.  The local papers here obviously make a huge deal about Comic-Con throughout July, and I know a lot of people who would never pay money or be interested in Comic-Con but like to go downtown and people watch and do other stuff
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Transmute Jun on April 27, 2018, 12:05:43 PM
I remember that year of the Homer Head. I saw a homeless family who were really excited by the free backpacks they had picked up, and the free food being given out.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 27, 2018, 12:53:34 PM
Yea, last i checkd out off sites for swag was 2016 really saw the batmobile from batman vs superman - replica or not it was cool to see and take pics of it and the statue they had close by, and it was busy and all but only went for a day cause didnt plan to go every day at time i was able to check it out. i tried do so last year but was out too early and guess they dont have the sites going til after con opens. but got alot pics and all so that was cool.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: hikanteki on April 27, 2018, 03:16:32 PM
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Has SDCC started its descent in popularity/relevance?

Has it peaked? In my opinion, yes. (This is a different question than "will it stop being big and crazy anytime soon," to which I'd say no.) We're seeing this at other conventions across the country -- it's more measurable at other conventions because it's easy to see the changes in attendance account. At most other comic conventions, gains in attendance have dropped dramatically and in some cases we're even seeing conventions shrink. SDCC is harder to measure since it maxed out capacity years ago. But there are other signs that its popularity has started to wane.

The most noticeable sign is volunteering. A few years ago it was nearly as hard to get a volunteer spot as it was a badge--but then 2 years ago we saw it go back down to hours, and then days this year. Yes, there were possible reasons for this (i.e. people knowing they had badges before volunteer opened), but there are possible reasons every year, and some years that didn't even make a difference. This year it did.

I've also noticed a turning of the tide in other places -- on one of the bigger Facebook SDCC badgeholder groups that I'm a part of, a few years ago literally everyone said they'd always do whatever it takes to get to SDCC every year. Now I'm seeing a lot of ambivalence creep in, even from a bunch of the same people who swore they'd always go a few years ago...and they aren't being replaced by bright-eyed bushy-tailed newbies as quickly anymore.

But this isn't saying that it's suddenly going to be easy to get badges. Badges sell out right away and most people leave disappointed. Since they are currently so far over demand I don't expect that to change in the next few years, but I'd guess in ~5-7 years there might be a few badges left the next day. And, in 10-20 years where there's no longer any rush to get in, I still expect it to be as big (size-wise) as it is now.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Mel on April 27, 2018, 03:27:51 PM
Well, I think a reason some people stop going is exactly because it's gotten so huge and it overwhelms them now. But I think there are absolutely tons of people ready to take their place.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 27, 2018, 04:09:34 PM
I can see how some or many are reg badge holders who able to get a badge every by chance. overtime the con has changed do to who is able to attend by panels, booths or vendors and offsites. i guess some who have never gone find a way to get a badge the right way by badges  sales, volunteering, or other. some stop going for one reason or another at anytime of the year, and as some cons start to get created closer to SDCC con goers then those buyers give the closer con a chance and see how it goes to save time and money cause the con is closer and kinda the same with some adjustments. SDCC like a mansion has maxed out it space so depend on offsites to help control space by how traffic sees stuff outside to do or play and leave the center to check it out at anytime. besides places to eat for a break from all the craziness. if they ever loose the traffic they get now, then it because of something that happens that makes fans or con goers loose interest of the event. with marvel no panel then lines may not be as long this year, but those who expect marvel will just try fill gap with something else with a different panel or other stuff to check out. i never thought or knew the con would ever max out it space, but overtime it has found ways to attract traffic to become one of the con that everyone try go to every year. so if they loose badge holders overtime, then the city looses traffic and bank from all it gets every year.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 27, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
I think popular culture being everywhere now makes SDCC stand out more than it did 5 years ago. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 27, 2018, 04:37:20 PM
I think also there are times when people need a break from whatever they are obsessing over and that includes comic con. Life gets in the way.

Right now, I can see myself going every year because I have more vacation days than I know what to do with. Had I been at a place where I only had 10 days, then there might be some off years, because there are other places I want to explore. I’m also single and have no kids so it’s only really me I have to consider when I decide where I want to go and how I want to spend my money.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 28, 2018, 02:24:10 PM
Same here kinda, i had only gone to con and been able to go in like 3 different times years ago. then stopped going for any reason. i only was able or try go 2016, and now try do what i can to go every year. just gotta have set goals what u wanna do, or u be lost cause so much going on around u that u be loose track of ur goals at time.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SamTurtledove on April 28, 2018, 07:43:02 PM


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I think also there are times when people need a break from whatever they are obsessing over and that includes comic con. Life gets in the way.


Other events can help fill the gap...



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just gotta have set goals what u wanna do, or u be lost cause so much going on around u that u be loose track of ur goals at time.

Trying TCM Film Fest this weekend. Had so much to choose from, but the goal was to have fun!
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Title: Re: SDCC popularity
Post by: rabbitwarren on April 29, 2018, 02:20:50 PM
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Other events can help fill the gap...



Yeah.  I frequently went to the US Open tennis tournament every Labor Day. The Labor Day weekend matches were the closest thing you’d get in sports to a con like environment with your choice of good matches, retail with exclusive merchandise, and interactive brand activations. But last year, we decided to go to the Mohegan sun casino that weekend for a concert and this year, we will probably skip.

As far as cons go, NYCC last year was probably the best in terms of content and shopping but I still am debating how many days I’ll go this year and which days.

And btw, it makes me feel really old that Who Framed Roger Rabbit is now lumped in the classic category
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on April 29, 2018, 05:53:50 PM
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I think also there are times when people need a break from whatever they are obsessing over and that includes comic con. Life gets in the way.

Right now, I can see myself going every year because I have more vacation days than I know what to do with. Had I been at a place where I only had 10 days, then there might be some off years, because there are other places I want to explore. I’m also single and have no kids so it’s only really me I have to consider when I decide where I want to go and how I want to spend my money.
Yeah, that's probably true.  SD Comic-Con is my home-town comic convention, and I still love it.  I don't obsess much about it, and I'm at a point now that after 19 years if I don't get lucky w/#20 or beyond I won't be too devastated; I've had a nice run, and saw a TON of great things.  I've never been to any other convention except for San Diego Comic-Con (and WonderCon) so I think I'm pretty spoiled with everything else. I'll go to D23 one of these years, and if SW Celebration makes it back to Anaheim (or San Diego) I'll go to that but I don't foresee me going to any other Cons, with maybe the exception of NYCC if I ever change jobs/careers and can take the time off.

Honestly, I'd love to go to some film conventions/festivals so maybe that'd be something next on my to-do list someday.  I'd LOVE to go to SxSW one year, or any of the bigger festivals.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on April 30, 2018, 10:57:04 AM
Yea, for what is possible for me i go to if can do so at time. SDCC is closest and any small i think or see news of worth going at time. i feel lucky can volunteer for sdcc, that saves me a bundle and alot of stress i guess. may try denver when possible years later cause my bro tries it and says it not as big as SDCC, but just as good and see it site before and it only like 3 days so not be as exhausted but can try volunteer if anything later.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Chris on April 30, 2018, 12:53:51 PM
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When would that've been?  I mean, the original Star Wars had a Comic-Con panel in 1975.  You mean pre-Hall H shenanigans?

Yes, I mean pre Hall H shenanigans.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: DaveG on April 30, 2018, 07:19:33 PM
Not sure if it's more or less popular, but it is definitely more well known.  Ten years ago if I told a coworker I was going to SDCC I'd have to explain what it was.  Now, just about everyone who knows I'm going wants to talk about it and they at least know a little bit about what its about.  So it has sort of become part of our mainstream culture.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: marcia29 on May 01, 2018, 04:33:11 AM
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Not sure if it's more or less popular, but it is definitely more well known.  Ten years ago if I told a coworker I was going to SDCC I'd have to explain what it was.  Now, just about everyone who knows I'm going wants to talk about it and they at least know a little bit about what its about.  So it has sort of become part of our mainstream culture.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login - Yes. I guess we can thank 'The Big Bang Theory' for some of that expanded awareness. Good thing/bad thing? Maybe that is a whole other discussion..lol 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Emerald_Mom on May 01, 2018, 08:39:12 AM
it's funny...I don't even say SanDiego.... people just assume it is that one when I say I'm going to comic con
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: dkd on May 01, 2018, 08:47:11 AM
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it's funny...I don't even say SanDiego.... people just assume it is that one when I say I'm going to comic con

Because I live in New York, and that con has gotten big, many people don't know if I am referring to NYCC or SDCC.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 01, 2018, 11:14:07 AM
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it's funny...I don't even say SanDiego.... people just assume it is that one when I say I'm going to comic con

Online that's true. But here at home people assume I'm going to the local comic con.  Most people don't understand why I'd travel six hours across the ocean for a comic convention.  Online, though, people GET IT.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Chris on May 04, 2018, 12:32:10 PM
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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login - Yes. I guess we can thank 'The Big Bang Theory' for some of that expanded awareness. Good thing/bad thing? Maybe that is a whole other discussion..lol

Totally agree.   Big Bang does a free add for Comic Con (implied San Diego) by mentioning it roughly twice a season. 

Chris' opinion only and directed at BBT, not directed at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login :

I thought it was a good thing at first, but I think it's a bad thing now in my opinion. 

They set unrealistic expectations like "This is the sketch that I got Jim Lee to draw for me at Comic Con."  (Full body sketch of a Thundercat with Leonard's face.)  Trust me--it is not that easy to get a Jim Lee sketch--particularly a fully rendered body sketch.

I also didn't like when they said that "<City name here that I can't remember> is more like what San Diego was before they went mainstream."  BBT is a big part of the reason that SDCC went mainstream in my opinion.

I plastered "in my opinion" all over this as this is a bit of a rant (not at you You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, but rather a rant at BBT) and my opinion only--not documented facts.

Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on May 04, 2018, 01:12:38 PM
I actually learned about SDCC through Seth Cohen on the O.C... 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 04, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
It was also featured on an episode of Entourage I believe.

I can't remember how I learned of it. I think one of my ex's who lived in San Diego was talking about it.  He could never get badges.  We broke up. I got a badge a badge six months later.  He's still never been  >:D  >:D  >:D
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angology on May 04, 2018, 03:13:50 PM
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Totally agree.   Big Bang does a free add for Comic Con (implied San Diego) by mentioning it roughly twice a season. 

Chris' opinion only and directed at BBT, not directed at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login :

I thought it was a good thing at first, but I think it's a bad thing now in my opinion. 

They set unrealistic expectations like "This is the sketch that I got Jim Lee to draw for me at Comic Con."  (Full body sketch of a Thundercat with Leonard's face.)  Trust me--it is not that easy to get a Jim Lee sketch--particularly a fully rendered body sketch.

I also didn't like when they said that "<City name here that I can't remember> is more like what San Diego was before they went mainstream."  BBT is a big part of the reason that SDCC went mainstream in my opinion.

I plastered "in my opinion" all over this as this is a bit of a rant (not at you You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, but rather a rant at BBT) and my opinion only--not documented facts.
I think it was Bakersfield Comic-Con. When they dressed as Star Trek characters and got robbed. Don't get me started on a BBT rant (although, I still watch it, only because of Sheldon) I am still salty about Amy ruining Raiders of the Lost Ark for Sheldon. Who does that? He clearly loves the movie. Just mean. And Penny thinks Star Wars and Star Trek are the same thing...

The episode for Comic-Con this season was them "outgrowing" it. WTH? I still love Sheldon's response: "Nuts to that, I'm going to Comic-Con" (possibly paraphrased)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Chris on May 05, 2018, 11:41:43 AM
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I am still salty about Amy ruining Raiders of the Lost Ark for Sheldon.

It killed me when she did that...  Because she was right...  And I've only seen that movie a couple of hundred times and felt stoopid that I never thought of it.  :)
Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 05, 2018, 11:45:33 AM
And Penny thinks Star Wars and Star Trek are the same thing...
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Penny has come a long way. My wife started out the same. Now she has a badge this year for SDCC.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cire_raeb on May 05, 2018, 03:24:03 PM
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I think it was Bakersfield Comic-Con. When they dressed as Star Trek characters and got robbed. Don't get me started on a BBT rant (although, I still watch it, only because of Sheldon) I am still salty about Amy ruining Raiders of the Lost Ark for Sheldon. Who does that? He clearly loves the movie. Just mean. And Penny thinks Star Wars and Star Trek are the same thing...

The episode for Comic-Con this season was them "outgrowing" it. WTH? I still love Sheldon's response: "Nuts to that, I'm going to Comic-Con" (possibly paraphrased)

Did they mentioned Bakersfield in that episode?  I though they were headed to San Diego from Pasadena (CalTech) on either the 15 or 215 through the Inland Empire.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: epicaz on May 07, 2018, 01:31:34 PM
Has it peaked in terms of content? That's hard to say.. But popularity? Far from it, and that's actually the reason I think the content has hit a plateau state.

Ever since SDCC hit it's massive peak a few years back, conventions EVERYWHERE just skyrocketed in popularity. Being involved in some local pop culture convention became more of an easy norm to get into, and it was no longer just for the most passionate of geeks. Sdcc was less accessible, but everyone wants in on the convention craze. That's why D23 has been capitalizing more on their own brand.. more people want to go to a convention they can actually get into while still getting that exclusive, vip content that brought the nerdy excitement/hype toward the con scene to begin with.

Cons everywhere are capitalizing on the parts of the industry that they can get, and either companies are weighing if their best investment lies with exclusivity or continuing an expensive year to year push at the big dance. Aside from cases like D23, its not that the content is spreading out to an over-saturated market.. Though I'm sure it hurts them to choose. I'm a little sad to see less exciting offsites.. or less swag (I miss all of the shirts I used to get).. but in terms of the guests and experiences we do still get? It's still second to none. Who knows, we can just say that each year is different.. it's hard to say it'll just improve each year in terms of amount of content. But even if things spread out or change, it's never a letdown.

And I know that sdcc will still be the talk of the town when it's over.. either by the petty ("it's not even a comic con.. just advertisement/Hollywood con") or the tons and tons who always have sdcc set as their dream con and just haven't had the chance or knowledge to try
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angology on May 07, 2018, 09:17:30 PM
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Did they mentioned Bakersfield in that episode?  I though they were headed to San Diego from Pasadena (CalTech) on either the 15 or 215 through the Inland Empire.


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The episode name was called The Bakersfield Expedition, so it was even in the episode title.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on May 08, 2018, 10:14:21 AM
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Don't get me started on a BBT rant (although, I still watch it, only because of Sheldon) I am still salty about Amy ruining Raiders of the Lost Ark for Sheldon.
There was an ep. of that show (which I am really really not a fan of) where they were waiting for some "director's cut" of RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK.  Now, I'm not only a huge movie fan but especially that of RAIDERS.  I'm very well aware there is no other cut of RAIDERS, so I was automatically eye-rolling at the top of the ep.  But they were in line talking about 'deleted scenes' put back in, and it was completely maid up nonsense.  There are actually a myriad of deleted scenes and concepts from that film that a very simple google search would've accomplished.  But no: they went with BS.

Yes, my problem with the not-that-funny-IMO show about 'nerds' is seemingly I'm nerdier than they are.  It also REALLY bugged me when they had the cold-open of them constantly hitting 'refresh' trying to get Comic-Con badges.  The first time I saw that I was all, "these guys are geniuses and can't read simple instructions of not hitting refresh?!  These people are complete morons."
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 08, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
I think the BBT is in ways funny but sometimes goes over board or maybe up stuff to keep things going sometimes. im sure some stuff not true since they are supposed to be so smart in their field of expertise or skills. so to have them act and try be like reg people besides the smarts it tries to be funny in variety of ways. if they get to a point where the writers feel drained and try find way to end the show then it may happen at any time later. but for any show they try to keep going till they see a decent way to end if it ever happens later.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: NCDS on May 08, 2018, 03:17:40 PM
I find myself wondering (Don't read if you haven't seen Infinity Wars)
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Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 08, 2018, 03:33:08 PM
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I find myself wondering (Don't read if you haven't seen Infinity Wars)
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That is hilarious! Er, I mean very sad.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on May 08, 2018, 04:19:25 PM
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I find myself wondering (Don't read if you haven't seen Infinity Wars)
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If so likely only for 2019, then back to status quo  :P

Also, how awesome/horrific would the Infinity Gauntlet be to wield at Comic-Con?!?!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: nootheroptions on May 09, 2018, 05:41:16 PM
If this is what waning popularity is that's just fine.  Tickets were a pain, parking was a pain, hotels were a pain, I had more plans that I could possibly all do last year.  Doesn't seem slower to me llol
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: DaveG on May 10, 2018, 02:40:20 AM
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Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 10, 2018, 09:10:06 AM
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Marvel also didn’t have a panel or even a booth at WonderCon. Their only presence I can remember was a SHEILD panel without Clark Gregg.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: perc2100 on May 10, 2018, 10:13:06 AM
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Marvel also didn’t have a panel or even a booth at WonderCon. Their only presence I can remember was a SHEILD panel without Clark Gregg.


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No BOOTH?!?!?!  Wow; that seems weird
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 10:48:30 AM
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Uhhh when do we get the floorplan for SDCC 2018.  They must have a booth at SDCC, right? I'm not even big into the exhibit hall, but I can't imagine them not there.
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Post by: Louie_rob_m on May 10, 2018, 11:04:21 AM
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Uhhh when do we get the floorplan for SDCC 2018.  They must have a booth at SDCC, right? I'm not even big into the exhibit hall, but I can't imagine them not there.
I think the floor plan gets released in June. One of my fav milestones!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 10, 2018, 11:07:40 AM
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Uhhh when do we get the floorplan for SDCC 2018.  They must have a booth at SDCC, right? I'm not even big into the exhibit hall, but I can't imagine them not there.
I’m sure they’ll have a booth at SDCC.


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Post by: justboogie on May 10, 2018, 11:50:26 AM
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Marvel also didn’t have a panel or even a booth at WonderCon. Their only presence I can remember was a SHEILD panel without Clark Gregg.


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Marvel almost never has a booth at WonderCon, so that's nothing out of the ordinary. At D23, yes they've had their own booth in past years. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this. As for SDCC, OF COURSE they'll have their booth! Regardless of whether they hold panels, Marvel will have their own booth. It is, after all, a comic book publisher as well as a movie studio. So even if they don't have any movies to push they can push their comics and Marvel merch. I'm a sucker for their pins and shirts.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 10, 2018, 02:43:40 PM
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Marvel almost never has a booth at WonderCon, so that's nothing out of the ordinary. At D23, yes they've had their own booth in past years. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this. As for SDCC, OF COURSE they'll have their booth! Regardless of whether they hold panels, Marvel will have their own booth. It is, after all, a comic book publisher as well as a movie studio. So even if they don't have any movies to push they can push their comics and Marvel merch. I'm a sucker for their pins and shirts.
Kevin Feige confirmed that Marvel WILL have a floor presence at Comic-Con, but they’re “skipping the usual Hall H panel to let the dust settle from Infinity War.”


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 03:11:32 PM
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Kevin Feige confirmed that Marvel WILL have a floor presence at Comic-Con, but they’re “skipping the usual Hall H panel to let the dust settle from Infinity War.”


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I can't remember the exact quote so I'll trust you on that.  I remember them saying they'd have "a presence," but don't remember them specifically saying it'd be on the floor. I automatically assumed (and hoped?) for an off site.
Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 10, 2018, 03:15:54 PM
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I can't remember the exact quote so I'll trust you on that.  I remember them saying they'd have "a presence," but don't remember them specifically saying it'd be on the floor. I automatically assumed (and hoped?) for an off site.
The source is Kyle Buchanan on Twitter on 4/22/18, 6:29 PM.

Mario Wario reported it in on the FoCC blog on the same day.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 03:18:18 PM
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The source is Kyle Buchanan on Twitter on 4/22/18, 6:29 PM.


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Thanks! Twitter is blocked at work so I can't look at it at the moment, but I'll trust you on this.  :) 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 10, 2018, 03:19:33 PM
I read somewhere that someone mention a 10 anniversary deal with marvel unless i wrong on that, so think have a booth to promote that some how. guessing with a mix of freebies / swag and by chance some stuff can maybe buy , but again just guessing.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 10, 2018, 03:19:37 PM
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Thanks! Twitter is blocked at work so I can't look at it at the moment, but I'll trust you on this.  :)
I added to my post. You can find it on the FoCC blog.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 03:33:23 PM
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I read somewhere that someone mention a 10 anniversary deal with marvel unless i wrong on that, so think have a booth to promote that some how. guessing with a mix of freebies / swag and by chance some stuff can maybe buy , but again just guessing.

Any idea where you heard this? I haven't seen anything about a 10 year anniversary event.  I've seen stuff about them not having a panel and then the above mentioned floor presence.  Would love to read your source if possible.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 10, 2018, 03:43:43 PM
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Any idea where you heard this? I haven't seen anything about a 10 year anniversary event.  I've seen stuff about them not having a panel and then the above mentioned floor presence.  Would love to read your source if possible.

It was not an event really but at the booth that someone mention in the comments somewhere not exact sure who but was not event but guessing a booth promoting it.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
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It was not an event really but at the booth that someone mention in the comments somewhere not exact sure who but was not event but guessing a booth promoting it.

I'm having a little trouble understanding this.  What booth? At SDCC last year? You heard there was going to be a Marvel 10 year anniversary booth at last year's booth?  Sorry, I just want to be sure I'm understanding your statement and it's just not clicking with me.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 10, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
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I'm having a little trouble understanding this.  What booth? At SDCC last year? You heard there was going to be a Marvel 10 year anniversary booth at last year's booth?  Sorry, I just want to be sure I'm understanding your statement and it's just not clicking with me.

I checkd online and found this for some clear view of things i hope - https://marvelstudiosnews.com/2018/04/22/marvel-studios-will-not-have-a-hall-h-panel-at-sdcc-2018/
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 03:52:34 PM
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I checkd online and found this for some clear view of things i hope - https://marvelstudiosnews.com/2018/04/22/marvel-studios-will-not-have-a-hall-h-panel-at-sdcc-2018/

Well that's interesting. That almost indicates that there will be a panel of some kind, but just not in Hall H.  Huh.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 10, 2018, 03:54:03 PM
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Well that's interesting. That almost indicates that there will be a panel of some kind, but just not in Hall H.  Huh.

Guessing we gotta wait for schedule for more details about the panel and anything else.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 03:55:15 PM
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Guessing we gotta wait for schedule for more details about the panel and anything else.

Perhaps. Sometimes things get leaked earlier, though.  So perhaps not.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: semisonic on May 10, 2018, 03:59:00 PM
I just hope that "10th anniversary materials" mean we can buy the "more than a fan" 10 years of Marvel Studios t-shirts and maybe some other swag with the MARVEL STUD10S logo, as we can't get them shipped to the UK.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 10, 2018, 04:00:44 PM
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I just hope that "10th anniversary materials" mean we can buy the "more than a fan" 10 years of Marvel Studios t-shirts and maybe some other swag with the MARVEL STUD10S logo, as we can't get them shipped to the UK.

Same.  I got excited for 10 anniversary merch but then I looked at the T-shirt design and was kind of.... disappointed. It's not that creative.  It's just a plain shirt with a list of movies on the back.

Now the tattoo that the main cast got... THAT would be a kickin rad shirt.  That design is amazing.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 10, 2018, 04:06:01 PM
I just gotta make a note and add to game plan list as what to do and visit so i am able to check early incase some really good swag before all the marvel fans grab all or any and try by chance resale later lol. not saying that everyone does resale but hope i can see and have chance get something i really want at time but before all is gone or sold out by chance or all freebies are gone. but since con is like 4 and half days i sure they have plenty cause not really sure how many try go to the panels but im guessing alot lol.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Vapors on May 10, 2018, 09:05:44 PM
The popularity of the con is not going down.  At worst, it has plateaued.  Even if the big movie studios pull back from presenting, you still have TV and video games and toys that get people excited to come.  I think the main thing that could hamper continuing interest in Comic Con is if it gets harder and harder for younger fans (specifically kids and teens) who would otherwise think it be cool to come not be able to come.  Its already starting to get pretty pricey for kids and with limited opportunities to come (fast sellouts, harder to get into volunteer spots, etc) the con does risk not being able to foment the next wave of Comic Con goers.

Like I came when Sunday tickets were half off for people 16 and under (so about $10). After that, I was able to volunteer for 12 hours each con week to get a free badge for all four days plus PN.  Those half ticket prices are long gone and with volunteering being just as hard as getting a regular ticket, I can imagine most people who want to check out the con on whim simply moving on to something else.

Hopefully one day soon, the con can expand and give more people the opportunity to come experience Comic Con.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Dubb on May 11, 2018, 07:10:12 AM
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Its already starting to get pretty pricey for kids

Like I came when Sunday tickets were half off for people 16 and under (so about $10).

Kids are free and juniors are half price.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 11, 2018, 07:13:45 AM
Dubb is right. Until age 17, kids are half price (and free through age 12).
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Pyramid on May 11, 2018, 08:00:20 AM
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I've been attending SDCC since 2008 and watched the popularity of the convention absolutely skyrocket with the addition of Hollywood.

Every year though, it seems more studios/companies/productions pull out of SDCC. With Marvel not doing a Hall H panel this year, it go me thinking.

Has SDCC started its descent in popularity/relevance?

Most major movie studios have abandoned SDCC, the freebies/handouts have decreased both in quantity and quality, Disney chooses to showcase almost all of their stuff at D23 now and continues to gobble up more entertainment, Lionsgate pulled out of the deal with Comic-Con HQ, Nerd HQ is no more, Conival has decreased in scope and size, and the general craziness/fervor just seems less now.

What do you think? Am I crazy?

I for one would be thrilled if the crowds thinned a bit.  Is SDCC waning in popularity?  No, I don't think so.  It's simply to big a market to showcase goods.  The name alone sells products.  There will always be someone or a company that wants to be a part of it.  SDCC could sell out without ever having listed any celebs, studios, or exclusives.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Vapors on May 11, 2018, 11:15:09 AM
Oh man brain fart. I knew kids being free if they are accompanied by an adult, but for some reason, I thought they had done away with the half off for teens.  Good to know. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 11, 2018, 11:31:10 AM
The Con as i hear and read is pop culture. it used to be just focused on comics and guess variety other stuff. but now it has encompassed or expanded to other genres overtime so that has attracted more traffic overtime. San Diego is one of the big 3 that almost everyone try to go to every year i have learned over the years. for any person, vendor, or booth that decide to skip the year then there is always others who will take the spot or space to try check out or sale more stuff at the con. it not a place that is open all year, it only around for a window of time then it gone till next year to bring more or new stuff ea year. im guessing if price for badge go up then those who still wanna go so bad will then or maybe switch to volunteer line to get in and help every year. i saw that last year in a fb group tagging anyone who they know wanna go and volunteer for this year lol. i was able to do for 4 days and was alot busy and fun. was able to do it mid day so had that window of time before and after job to do anything like roam around and stuff. so something major would happen for them to loose so much traffic any year and all. they already know what they gotta do and doing what they can with what they got right now. i am happy i am able to go again and show support to those who help keep the event going.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: EightiesKid on May 23, 2018, 09:13:03 AM
I expect that the con will continue to remain popular.  The demographics of the con and the offerings may change over time, but the crowds will remain high.  There has been a lot of mainstream media coverage due to the increased presence of movies and television over the years, and if movies and TV shows pull back then mainstream media coverage may also diminish.  However, that may not be a bad thing. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 23, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
Last year i made a point to check in with those who helped keep the event going as to comic related and all. seeing how the media and more has kinda taken traffic away from those who help keep the con alive by the creation of comics and all. so i check out artist alley and try get any comic signed possible. i just dont go with a pile lol cause i have learned some start to charge if gotta sign so many lol. i then roam around and get swag i want most and value since last year i got too much i think and some may never read or use lol. i never thought the con was gonna get so big really. but they are trying to expand any way possible. hope to mix it up some and check out offsites maybe depends on what is there. so i not just wonder around and try go by notes and do what i can this year.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: epicaz on May 23, 2018, 02:14:27 PM
At least from what I can see, every person with a semblance of nerd in them knows the name SDCC.. which is usually followed by a "I've always wanted to go" ;)

As long as that remains, I can't see it ever bending unless sdcc's content and exclusivity truly becomes widely accessible amongst other cons.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 23, 2018, 02:56:56 PM
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At least from what I can see, every person with a semblance of nerd in them knows the name SDCC.. which is usually followed by a "I've always wanted to go" ;)

As long as that remains, I can't see it ever bending unless sdcc's content and exclusivity truly becomes widely accessible amongst other cons.

And then you start to explain how to get tickets and increase their odds and most decide it's too much effort  ???  But they still totally wanna go!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 23, 2018, 03:43:48 PM
If not already mentioned before, i noticed this past months when volunteer chance opened that alot or many was tagging friends for a chance to do it since getting a reg badge was not easy. not sure how many of those tagged got in the door so to speak, but guessing they feel lucky to have a chance if got emails and made sure to check in to get all the forms need to turn in later. i was even told i was lucky to get in seeing how times have changed and know some who have done so before but decide to skip for any reason. i do the best i can to help and guess if they dont have to replace u or not gotta like lecture u any of any u do wrong then all is good. not exactly sure how they tell u that u cant volunteer anymore, but i really dont wanna be in the spot either. all i can do is follow the steps and do best i can on any job , but hope can do job i already know so they dont gotta keep training me for a new job every year or ea day.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SamTurtledove on May 23, 2018, 05:13:39 PM
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If not already mentioned before, i noticed this past months when volunteer chance opened that alot or many was tagging friends for a chance to do it since getting a reg badge was not easy. not sure how many of those tagged got in the door so to speak, but guessing they feel lucky to have a chance if got emails and made sure to check in to get all the forms need to turn in later. i was even told i was lucky to get in seeing how times have changed and know some who have done so before but decide to skip for any reason. i do the best i can to help and guess if they dont have to replace u or not gotta like lecture u any of any u do wrong then all is good. not exactly sure how they tell u that u cant volunteer anymore, but i really dont wanna be in the spot either. all i can do is follow the steps and do best i can on any job , but hope can do job i already know so they dont gotta keep training me for a new job every year or ea day.

Who knows, they say that the department head of the area you worked can request you again for the same spot.  PreCon shifts have been popular  the last few years and the jobs a bit easier.

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Alot of mixed comments, but seeing how so many try go and miss a chance cause badge sell so fast that i saw alot people tagging others in a fb group last year and it was alot lol. i only discovered volunteer by checking the account and seeing volunteer tab and was thinking why not cause save u a bundle to help for a few ea day and still enjoy the event. not sure how many actually try for a badge and get mad and then try volunteer and get in by that way every year. i think anyone who not able get a badge by sales but by volunteer should be thankful and happy its another option so u not gotta just enjoy off sites every year but get to go in and check out stuff u want and get any free stuff by chance. not sure if to say the bubble burst but they do need more space however they are able to do so overtime. but i think offsite stuff or events helps to keep the center not so crowded at anytime to where u able to walk around in empty space at anytime cause everyone is downstairs, in a panel, or outside checking out stuff around the center.

Yes, volunteer aspect seems to mirror SDCC popularity.


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I know they ask u if u wanted to at time u checkd in a while back, but guessing they send u email if they gave u a spot to work before the event. so guessing u have to wait for mail for any updates since they still busy with WonderCon news and all.

Not sure, did you choose a PreCon shift?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 24, 2018, 11:00:05 AM
I did not do a pre con shift last year and did not choose to do one this year.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: chocolateshake on May 24, 2018, 11:58:09 AM
I don't think comic-con has pulled back or plateaued at all.  I think it's expanding to meet more demand.  Sunday used to be half day, now it's pretty much a full day.  Also many offsites used to shutdown on Sunday and shutdown for the day around 5 or 6.  Last year, some offsites were opened until 12am.

Last fall I was in Akiba and while looking through some figures, said to the couple next to me that they should go to comic-con to find figures if they can't find them here.  They said it was on their bucket list.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: epicaz on May 24, 2018, 12:29:48 PM
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And then you start to explain how to get tickets and increase their odds and most decide it's too much effort  ???  But they still totally wanna go!

Yeah, wheres the low cost/low effort/buy tickets and hotel the week before version that everyone dreams about ;)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Michael M on May 24, 2018, 04:32:30 PM
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Yeah, wheres the low cost/low effort/buy tickets and hotel the week before version that everyone dreams about ;)
That was 2009 I think :) (I got MMM just by calling up and getting a sweet rate)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: hikanteki on May 24, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
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I don't think comic-con has pulled back or plateaued at all.  I think it's expanding to meet more demand.  Sunday used to be half day, now it's pretty much a full day.  Also many offsites used to shutdown on Sunday and shutdown for the day around 5 or 6.  Last year, some offsites were opened until 12am.

When was Sunday shorter than it is now? As far back as I can remember (~the past decade) Sunday has ended at 5 which is still a half day, except for the exhibit hall. I've also noticed that the mood in the Gaslamp changes very quickly Sunday night and has the last few years, although I'll defer to you about offsites since I generally don't go for those. Which offsites lasted until 12 on Sunday (or close to it) last year?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: hikanteki on May 24, 2018, 04:58:26 PM
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And then you start to explain how to get tickets and increase their odds and most decide it's too much effort  ???  But they still totally wanna go!

Yup. Either that or they suddenly decide that they don't want to go to Comic-Con anyway because it has gotten way too big and/or is no longer about the comics.  ::)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 24, 2018, 04:59:54 PM
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Yup. Either that or they suddenly decide that they don't want to go to Comic-Con anyway because it has gotten way too big and/or is no longer about the comics.  ::)

Ah yes, the parade of excuses when the reality is they just don't want to put in effort.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 24, 2018, 06:29:38 PM
I remember last year, the days fly by and by chance i was in the hall when they announced it be closing soon so i had by chance at con like all day lol to hear it and know was time to check in to get a job next day and whatever else then head home lol. not sure what day i was inside to hear the call but was like wow already that time lol.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: chocolateshake on May 24, 2018, 07:20:36 PM
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When was Sunday shorter than it is now? As far back as I can remember (~the past decade) Sunday has ended at 5 which is still a half day, except for the exhibit hall. I've also noticed that the mood in the Gaslamp changes very quickly Sunday night and has the last few years, although I'll defer to you about offsites since I generally don't go for those. Which offsites lasted until 12 on Sunday (or close to it) last year?

It seemed last year there were a lot more people around on Sunday than there were say 4-5 years ago.  Back then around about 2pm it was pretty empty.

Dude, you're missing out.  They are awesome.  I was talking to someone about last year's comic-con the other day and spontaneously we both said that the Bladerunner offsite was the best thing about it.  That was one of the late ones.  They were still going at 10pm.  I'm not sure how late they stayed to get everyone thorough that was in line.  I was walking by and there was still quite a line.  I could have sworn that some offsite went until midnight.  That may have been the GoT one but you had to get in line 12 hours earlier for that.  They vowed to stay open until everyone who waited made it through.  In general many more offsites seemed to be around on Sunday and around later.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 24, 2018, 08:15:12 PM
I really didnt check much of the offsites last year, but tried to check around sometime early sat or sun before con opened to kill time so to speak. was some cool stuff and took random pics. but gotta wait to see what be this year to get me to really wanna check it out this year if anything.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SamTurtledove on May 25, 2018, 08:57:07 AM

You missed alot and definitely worth not being inside the con for one day!

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As far as offsites I highly disagree they are on the decline.  As You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login mentioned I think last year had the greatest offsites ever.  I didn't get to most of them (too popular) but we had Westworld, BladeRunner, GOT, Netflix, Walking Dead, Tech Expo, Rick & Morty and Impractical jokers at Petco, Adult Swim, FX area, plus tons and tons more.

Agreed!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: chocolateshake on May 25, 2018, 09:51:20 AM
I missed where people were saying that offsites are in decline.  No way.  Even if you spent every single day going to offsites, I don't think there's enough time to do them all.  Not right anyways.  For example, many people only did the first tiny bit of the Mr. Robot offsite.  If you went all the way, it was a multi-hour investment.

The thing that is in decline, more than a decline a full stop, were what I call the mini comic-cons.  Conival and NerdHQ were the big ones.  There were a couple more in addition in 2016.  They had panels with the celebrities but without the crowds.  Conival in particular was standout since it was free and the celebs came either before or after their panels at the convention center.  Sometimes even Hall H panels.  It was super easy to get a selfie or an autograph.  That all came to an end in 2017.

Thursday is a good offsite day.  The locals are still working so that's not a factor.  What is a 30 minute wait on Thursday can be a 4 hour wait on Saturday.  I spent all Thursday last year doing offsites but only got to do 3.  Blade runner, the Expanse and Mr. Robot.  Blade runner was awesome.  I spent a couple of hours in there.  I was amongst the first to get in that morning.  I had to wait an hour or two to get into the Expanse due to a critical error.  I didn't realize I could have gotten out of Blade runner, walked about 20 feet and gone into the Expanse since they were both run by Alcon.  The exit of Blade runner was an entrance into the Expanse.  I went all the way to the front and stood in line.  It was cool too.  It was an escape room.  I spent the rest of the day doing Mr. Robot.  It took hours but it was worth it in the end.  I don't think many people made it since it should have been a group of 4 per session but I was the only one in mine.  Like the year before, they built a Mr. Robot set but this time you got to play out a scene from the show.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 25, 2018, 11:08:41 AM
Not sure if was 2016 or 17 , but remember seeing a group wearing mr robot hoodies with mask on walking around.  i use to watch the show but strayed from it for one reason or another.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Vapors on May 25, 2018, 11:48:20 AM
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I missed where people were saying that offsites are in decline.  No way.  Even if you spent every single day going to offsites, I don't think there's enough time to do them all.  Not right anyways.  For example, many people only did the first tiny bit of the Mr. Robot offsite.  If you went all the way, it was a multi-hour investment.

The thing that is in decline, more than a decline a full stop, were what I call the mini comic-cons.  Conival and NerdHQ were the big ones.  There were a couple more in addition in 2016.  They had panels with the celebrities but without the crowds.  Conival in particular was standout since it was free and the celebs came either before or after their panels at the convention center.  Sometimes even Hall H panels.  It was super easy to get a selfie or an autograph.  That all came to an end in 2017.

Thursday is a good offsite day.  The locals are still working so that's not a factor.  What is a 30 minute wait on Thursday can be a 4 hour wait on Saturday.  I spent all Thursday last year doing offsites but only got to do 3.  Blade runner, the Expanse and Mr. Robot.  Blade runner was awesome.  I spent a couple of hours in there.  I was amongst the first to get in that morning.  I had to wait an hour or two to get into the Expanse due to a critical error.  I didn't realize I could have gotten out of Blade runner, walked about 20 feet and gone into the Expanse since they were both run by Alcon.  The exit of Blade runner was an entrance into the Expanse.  I went all the way to the front and stood in line.  It was cool too.  It was an escape room.  I spent the rest of the day doing Mr. Robot.  It took hours but it was worth it in the end.  I don't think many people made it since it should have been a group of 4 per session but I was the only one in mine.  Like the year before, they built a Mr. Robot set but this time you got to play out a scene from the show.

I was one of those people who said the offsites were declining last year.  This is due to the lack of, as you call them, the mini cons.  And yea, it seems they all died out, which is a shame.  But the offsites last year were really kicking and sounded awesome (I only made it to the Mr Robot and completed the quest after about 2 hours).  I think I thought offsites were declining due to a lack of  early announcements, my recollection is a lot of the big ones were announced really close to the convention.  Those offsites are I think what fuels the imagination for people who cannot get a ticket to the convention.  You can make a pretty good weekend by just going to the offsites.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Transmute Jun on May 25, 2018, 11:55:01 AM
I agree that the offsites are increasing in scope, attractiveness and popularity. In fact, I even wrote an article about offisites last year at SDCC.

https://www.friendsofcc.com/2017/07/29/offsites-upped-the-ante-at-sdcc-2017/
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 25, 2018, 01:03:55 PM
I am guessing that offsites have become or have been popular do to the fact that it shows even if u cant get into the con the traffic is a mix of con goers and anyone who was not able to get in but still watch the shows or movies and are able to check out offsites without a badge. i remember i did same in 2016 cause was not able go in but had chance to see offsites like rest off traffic. but i planned out what i wanted to see so was not overloaded running around trying to see everything. time went fast as u busy roaming around enjoying the fun and taking pics or vid of stuff u wanted to show u saw at time. so offsites will always be popular, but guess it depends one what they are at the time. some go cause like show or movie soon and some go cause cause just wanna feel part of the fun and score some goods while they check out the sites and then can say i went to con events even if i wasnt able to go into the con. like a win / win for everyone i guessing.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SamTurtledove on May 25, 2018, 01:35:19 PM


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Yes, along with the quality of the experiences, offsites freebies, have actually gotten better than in-panel SDCC offerings.

Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: angi on May 25, 2018, 05:11:22 PM
I'd prefer if they work with the studios and split the content between wondercon and sdcc.  If wondercon had more content I enjoyed, I'd go. Maybe tv vs movies or something, dunno, but anything to alleviate the crowds.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: chocolateshake on May 25, 2018, 09:42:56 PM
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Yes, along with the quality of the experiences, offsites freebies, have actually gotten better than in-panel SDCC offerings.

In my opinion, that's the big difference between the offsites and comic-con proper.  Comic-con is observational and the offsites are experiential.  You go to panels at comic-con to be an audience.  You do the offsites to participate.  Watching a panel of say how they made the Blade runner set is one thing, being able to walk around in one is another.  To this day, when I watch Mr. Robot, I have a physical memory of Elliot's apartment since I was in a duplicate of the set.  It's just not a place I've seen on TV, it's a place I've been.  That's a world of difference.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 26, 2018, 10:08:39 AM
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In my opinion, that's the big difference between the offsites and comic-con proper.  Comic-con is observational and the offsites are experiential.  You go to panels at comic-con to be an audience.  You do the offsites to participate.  Watching a panel of say how they made the Blade runner set is one thing, being able to walk around in one is another.  To this day, when I watch Mr. Robot, I have a physical memory of Elliot's apartment since I was in a duplicate of the set.  It's just not a place I've seen on TV, it's a place I've been.  That's a world of difference.

It is kinda like when in 2016 i was able to be to close to or see the real deal or replicas of superman statue and batmobile from the movie. so yes it one thing to see from a far then to see anything up close and notice any details at the time. so basically offsites are like being on the set as to panels u only get to see or be told of how they did stuff for a scene.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: hikanteki on May 27, 2018, 03:46:46 PM
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It seemed last year there were a lot more people around on Sunday than there were say 4-5 years ago.  Back then around about 2pm it was pretty empty.

Dude, you're missing out.  They are awesome.  I was talking to someone about last year's comic-con the other day and spontaneously we both said that the Bladerunner offsite was the best thing about it.  That was one of the late ones.  They were still going at 10pm.  I'm not sure how late they stayed to get everyone thorough that was in line.  I was walking by and there was still quite a line.  I could have sworn that some offsite went until midnight.  That may have been the GoT one but you had to get in line 12 hours earlier for that.  They vowed to stay open until everyone who waited made it through.  In general many more offsites seemed to be around on Sunday and around later.

I probably am missing out, but it’s just so hard for me to justify the time commitment required for these — both the lines (I don’t do lines unless I get an entire’s day worth of programming worth going to in one room) & the ~hour round trip it takes to get across the street between the Convention Center and the Gaslamp, not to mention giving up all the programming inside that I’ve paid for. I’ve figured that if I don’t get all 4 days some year then I’ll try the offsites on the off days but of course Friday and Saturday are probably going to be the busiest for those as well. But thanks for the tips about them lasting longer — I’ll definitely check things out Sunday night this year!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: puppy on May 27, 2018, 05:56:41 PM
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I probably am missing out, but it’s just so hard for me to justify the time commitment required for these — both the lines (I don’t do lines unless I get an entire’s day worth of programming worth going to in one room) & the ~hour round trip it takes to get across the street between the Convention Center and the Gaslamp, not to mention giving up all the programming inside that I’ve paid for. I’ve figured that if I don’t get all 4 days some year then I’ll try the offsites on the off days but of course Friday and Saturday are probably going to be the busiest for those as well.  that But thanks for the tips about them lasting longer — I’ll definitely check things out Sunday night this year!

I would agree here.  After investing all that I do to gain access to SDCC, I do not want to waste more time and money elsewhere.  Yes, I do walk around to see what's up, but I don't want to stay and play there.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 27, 2018, 06:12:21 PM
Seeing how Wondercon did online lottery for panels and signings, it might happen with SDCC this year but no news of it till we read of anyone get emails to check in and choose what they wanna try for and hope u get something. so if this happens it may remove lines or shorten them some for this year. but time will tell.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: chocolateshake on May 27, 2018, 10:53:15 PM
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I’ll definitely check things out Sunday night this year!

I don't think any will be open at 10pm Sunday night.  If that's going to happen, that will be on Friday and Saturday.  Open late on Sunday is 5pm.  I don't see how they can be open that late on Sunday since they have to be gone by Monday.  Last year, there was a conference starting in the Marriot on Monday and late on Sunday afternoon they had already replaced some of the comic-con signage with that for the next conference.  Even by Sunday night, many of the offsites will be gone.  They break them down quickly.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: chocolateshake on May 27, 2018, 10:59:40 PM
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Seeing how Wondercon did online lottery for panels and signings, it might happen with SDCC this year but no news of it till we read of anyone get emails to check in and choose what they wanna try for and hope u get something. so if this happens it may remove lines or shorten them some for this year. but time will tell.

I think that will change a lot of the atmosphere of comic-con.  If I were an industry participant, I'm not sure I would like that.  There's a lot to be said for rewarding the people who really want to be there.  An online lottery makes it too easy.  Some people would do it just to do it even if they have no intention of showing up.  I think the spots should go to people who are willing to camp out overnight.  Camping out overnight generates a lot of buzz that an online lottery does not.  As marketing for a show, saying people got in by online lottery doesn't have the same buzz as getting in by camping out overnight.

I think any effort would be better spent making sure that people don't cut in line and reward people who have put the time in versus an online lottery.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: hikanteki on May 28, 2018, 03:12:25 AM
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I don't think any will be open at 10pm Sunday night.  If that's going to happen, that will be on Friday and Saturday.  Open late on Sunday is 5pm.  I don't see how they can be open that late on Sunday since they have to be gone by Monday.  Last year, there was a conference starting in the Marriot on Monday and late on Sunday afternoon they had already replaced some of the comic-con signage with that for the next conference.  Even by Sunday night, many of the offsites will be gone.  They break them down quickly.

Oh ok. My original question was asking which offsites were open until 12 on Sunday (or at all after the con closed at 5) So when you mentioned offsites being open until 10-12 I thought you were referring to Sunday, but it turns out you were referring to Saturday instead. But, thanks for the clarification. :)  Ah well, good to know but then if things go until midnight-ish on Friday and Saturday (both inside the con and out) but shut down cold at 5 on Sunday, then I’d still consider Sunday a half day. Also I guess still no offsites for me then.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 28, 2018, 09:12:50 AM
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I think that will change a lot of the atmosphere of comic-con.  If I were an industry participant, I'm not sure I would like that.  There's a lot to be said for rewarding the people who really want to be there.  An online lottery makes it too easy.  Some people would do it just to do it even if they have no intention of showing up.  I think the spots should go to people who are willing to camp out overnight.  Camping out overnight generates a lot of buzz that an online lottery does not.  As marketing for a show, saying people got in by online lottery doesn't have the same buzz as getting in by camping out overnight.

I think any effort would be better spent making sure that people don't cut in line and reward people who have put the time in versus an online lottery.
I was at WonderCon, and there were, as you said, a lot of no shows. They ended up doing a line anyway for standbys.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mattytreks on May 29, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
I for one, would welcome Hollywood to pack up and never come back.

But this is very much personal opinion/preference, and I would completely understand if others would want them to stay this year, and for all years in the future.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: dkd on May 29, 2018, 10:22:03 AM
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Oh ok. My original question was asking which offsites were open until 12 on Sunday (or at all after the con closed at 5) So when you mentioned offsites being open until 10-12 I thought you were referring to Sunday, but it turns out you were referring to Saturday instead. But, thanks for the clarification. :)  Ah well, good to know but then if things go until midnight-ish on Friday and Saturday (both inside the con and out) but shut down cold at 5 on Sunday, then I’d still consider Sunday a half day. Also I guess still no offsites for me then.

I usually see them tearing down the offsites on Sunday afternoon.  But, the best thing to do--if you are interested in a few of them is to ask them how long they will be open.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: cabler30 on May 29, 2018, 10:36:59 AM
Guessing offsites are different every year. studios marketing team always gotta brainstorm for ads and all every year to promote anything. knowing what movies are still to come out later, then mite be some cool offsites to check out by chance but it just ideas so cant say what movies mite have an off site just yet. some shows are on hiatus right now so not sure who be in the sails for autographs any, so hope to read of any updates later to try and do meet and greet with any one from shows i like to watch or have seen in the past. it can be shows or movies or other, i just have to hope i have some clue who they are so not feel lost when i go to meet anyone and have something to chat about. time will tell as we get closer to con time and they start throwing us more news who be where and when ea day.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Zero on May 29, 2018, 08:46:53 PM
Getting back on-topic regarding the popularity of SDCC...

Just out of curiosity, has anyone read or heard about Rob Salkowitz's book Comic-Con and the Business of Pop Culture: What the World’s Wildest Trade Show Can Tell Us About the Future of Entertainment

(I just heard of it myself while I was searching away on Amazon, but I might be curious enough to read it, ha ha.  XD)

There are a few pages of excerpts on the Amazon website as well, if anyone is interested in checking it out: https://www.amazon.com/Comic-Con-Business-Pop-Culture-Entertainment/dp/0071797025/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1333149284&sr=8-4 (https://www.amazon.com/Comic-Con-Business-Pop-Culture-Entertainment/dp/0071797025/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1333149284&sr=8-4)

Summary from Amazon:
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Every summer, more than 130,000 comic fans, gamers, cosplay enthusiasts, and nerds of all stripes descend on San Diego to mingle with the top entertainment celebrities and creative industry professionals in an unprecedented celebration of popular culture in all its forms.

From humble beginnings, Comic-Con has mutated into an electrifying, exhausting galaxy of movies, TV, video games, art, fashion, toys, merchandise, and buzz. It’s where the future of entertainment unspools in real time, and everyone wants to be there.

In Comic-Con and the Business of Pop Culture, author Rob Salkowitz, a recognized expert in digital media and the global digital generation (and unabashed comics enthusiast), explores how the humble art form of comics ended up at the center of the 21st-century media universe. From Comic-Con’s massive exhibit hall and panels to its exclusive parties and business suites, Salkowitz peels back the layers to show how comics culture is influencing communications, entertainment, digital technology, marketing, education, and storytelling.

What can the world’s most approachable and adaptable art form tell us about the importance of individual talent and personal engagement in the era of the new global audience, the iPad, and the quarter-billion-dollar summer blockbuster? Here are some of the issues Salkowitz explores:

How do you succeed in the transmedia maelstrom? Comics have hopscotched across the media landscape for decades. What can we learn from their successes and failures as we careen toward a converged digital future?

Have comics cracked the digital code? Everyone is scrambling to deal with the business disruptions of digital distribution. Does the recent success of comics on tablets demonstrate a new model for other industries, or do dangers lie ahead?

What’s next for “peak geek”? Will the ascendant nerd culture of the early 2010s keep its new audience engaged or burn out from overexposure?
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on May 29, 2018, 09:30:17 PM
That book looks extremely relevant to my interests.  Might make a good travel book for July :)


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on May 30, 2018, 01:31:54 AM
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Getting back on-topic regarding the popularity of SDCC...

Just out of curiosity, has anyone read or heard about Rob Salkowitz's book Comic-Con and the Business of Pop Culture: What the World’s Wildest Trade Show Can Tell Us About the Future of Entertainment

(I just heard of it myself while I was searching away on Amazon, but I might be curious enough to read it, ha ha.  XD)

There are a few pages of excerpts on the Amazon website as well, if anyone is interested in checking it out: https://www.amazon.com/Comic-Con-Business-Pop-Culture-Entertainment/dp/0071797025/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1333149284&sr=8-4 (https://www.amazon.com/Comic-Con-Business-Pop-Culture-Entertainment/dp/0071797025/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1333149284&sr=8-4)

Summary from Amazon:
Great find! As a university dean who has attended Comic-Con for the last 10 years and has been influenced in my decision making, particularly in my department of visual arts, this is a must read for me! Thanks for the tip!


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: marcia29 on May 30, 2018, 06:03:00 AM
I think the popularity of SDCC for some types of fans will wane, and maybe has already begun to fade.  It is soooo intense for most of us to assemble all the parts it takes to come to the con.   So many choices, so much walking, and waiting.  I have to be really clear in my soul as to what I want for so much effort.  For me it has mainly been the atmosphere, the people, the energy.  I can sit outside on one of the benches and watch 'my people' walk by and I feel wonderful.  I can sidle into a panel that I didn't have on my list and find great discussions going on inside.  I can have one of my fave actors simply walk across my path, and say 'hi'. At SDCC, I can relax and breathe in the fandoms that make me feel like I am 'home'.   
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on May 31, 2018, 01:52:28 PM
Saw this article from the Hollywood Reporter.  Live events is the way to go, but it will be interesting to see how they activate at these events. 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-viacom-is-betting-slimefest-clusterfest-live-events-1115307
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: marcia29 on June 01, 2018, 04:47:07 AM
What an interesting article.  Everybody wants their piece of the pie.  The whole world is becoming one big convention, with tracks every week.  This week Disney, next week BET, then Nickelodeon...maybe grocery store chains will join in. Come to Publix con! Attend the deli panel and try our new food items!  Cosplay as your favorite Publix bakery confection--Publix gift card awards will be given! Experience battling chefs with new recipies! Kapow!  Hmmm...maybe it is too early in the morning, and I should just shut my brain off for a bit. ;D
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Berts on June 14, 2018, 12:45:50 PM
HBO is out. Lot of no-shows at SDCC this year. I know most have stated that the reason they're skipping is either because of production schedules or nothing to show but I think we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the media behemoth SDCC is/was.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on June 14, 2018, 12:47:10 PM
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HBO is out. Lot of no-shows at SDCC this year. I know most have stated that the reason they're skipping is either because of production schedules or nothing to show but I think we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the media behemoth SDCC is/was.
I’m not panicking... yet.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: jimy on June 14, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
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I’m not panicking... yet.


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Seems like, at least up to this point, that most of the drop-outs will only be affecting Hall H... CCI is lots more than just Hall H (although I know that for a great many people Hall H is where it's it).
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on June 14, 2018, 12:54:11 PM
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HBO is out. Lot of no-shows at SDCC this year. I know most have stated that the reason they're skipping is either because of production schedules or nothing to show but I think we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the media behemoth SDCC is/was.

Yeah it's a really weird year. No MCU.  No HBO.  Lots of offsites are also gone (Nerd HQ, Conival, SyFy Live).

But you know what? I'm fine. It sucks things I love aren't there but SDCC is still a draw to me.  I'll just be doing different things.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on June 14, 2018, 12:54:53 PM
Has there been any word whether Nathan Fillion will be promoting The Rookie at SDCC this year? It’s not a geek oriented show, but that didn’t stop ABC from promoting Castle at the Con in the past.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on June 14, 2018, 01:00:26 PM
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Has there been any word whether Nathan Fillion will be promoting The Rookie at SDCC this year? It’s not a geek oriented show, but that didn’t stop ABC from promoting Castle at the Con in the past.


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No word yet but ABC usually has a presence and Nathan loves SDCC so I'd say it's a strong possibility.  It's essentially "Castle... Again" so yeah.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on June 14, 2018, 01:28:07 PM
GoT was always iffy this year because of the production schedule. Westworld is a disappointment though. However, one of the best SDCCs for me was 2011 when there was no Marvel and the  Saturday Hall H highlight was Snow White and the Huntsmsn
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on June 14, 2018, 01:32:50 PM
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GoT was always iffy this year because of the production schedule. Westworld is a disappointment though. However, one of the best SDCCs for me was 2011 when there was no Marvel and the  Saturday Hall H highlight was Snow White and the Huntsmsn

I figured they'd accommodate for SDCC. It's their last year and their last chance to have a huge SDCC blow out so I figured it'd be their best panel yet.  But... here we are.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: epicskyline on June 14, 2018, 01:39:02 PM
I was always guessing that the last season of GOT would air at the end of the summer, making next year the big blow out. We’ll see, since we still don’t know the air date for it. I think this is year is a perfect storm of off-scheduling, with GOT and Westworld both not returning for a year plus. I also think Netflix is likely to skip again this year for exactly the same reason. And we already know that’s why Marvel isn’t coming. Hopefully cool stuff will take their places, and I bet next year is going to be the return of everything.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on June 14, 2018, 01:44:56 PM
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I also think Netflix is likely to skip again this year for exactly the same reason.

Netflix isn't skipping. I got a press release this morning about Iron Fist.  It will be there.  Not sure about other properties, but at least one of their shows will be present.  The press release was very vague, though, so I'm not sure what capacity it'll be there.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: jazzyj on June 14, 2018, 01:51:40 PM
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I was always guessing that the last season of GOT would air at the end of the summer, making next year the big blow out. We’ll see, since we still don’t know the air date for it. I think this is year is a perfect storm of off-scheduling, with GOT and Westworld both not returning for a year plus. I also think Netflix is likely to skip again this year for exactly the same reason. And we already know that’s why Marvel isn’t coming. Hopefully cool stuff will take their places, and I bet next year is going to be the return of everything.

I keep on forgetting that no formal release date has been announced for GoT. Even if the final season airs before SDCC 2019, I still think they're going to have a farewell panel. I feel like GoT is one of those shows that has really shaped pop-culture that it would be a crime for it not to have one last panel at SDCC.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Chris on June 14, 2018, 01:56:38 PM
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Seems like, at least up to this point, that most of the drop-outs will only be affecting Hall H... CCI is lots more than just Hall H (although I know that for a great many people Hall H is where it's it).

My concern is if hall H doesn't draw the big crowds that the exhibit hall will be more crowded.  I am the only person who likes the Hall H lines because it take people off the floor.  :)
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on June 14, 2018, 01:57:27 PM
 Isn’t next year SDCC 50? It’s a great excuse to go all out.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on June 14, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
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My concern is if hall H doesn't draw the big crowds that the exhibit hall will be more crowded.  I am the only person who likes the Hall H lines because it take people off the floor.  :)

Oh man I hadn't even thought of this.  My fear was that the no shows in Hall H would make Hall H worse on the other days. Like less people on Saturday for MCU would mean more people on Friday for HBO.  But now no HBO, maybe they'll all flock to Doctor Who.  But... this could be a more accurate prediction yeah.
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Louie_rob_m on June 14, 2018, 03:07:41 PM
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My concern is if hall H doesn't draw the big crowds that the exhibit hall will be more crowded.  I am the only person who likes the Hall H lines because it take people off the floor.  :)
I was just saying exactly this to my friend!  I love Hall h having big events to keep 7000 plus people off the floor

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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: epicskyline on June 14, 2018, 03:10:01 PM
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Netflix isn't skipping. I got a press release this morning about Iron Fist.  It will be there.  Not sure about other properties, but at least one of their shows will be present.  The press release was very vague, though, so I'm not sure what capacity it'll be there.

This is great to hear!!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: SynXack on June 14, 2018, 03:14:48 PM
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This is great to hear!!

They've done offsites in the past as well so there is hope! I actually thought the Pixel movie offsite was cool.  Retro arcade games!
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: rabbitwarren on June 14, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
On the flip side, If people  are skipping Hall H, that gives me a chance to get into Hall. 2011 was a pretty bad Hall H year but I got to see Francis Ford Coppola demonstrate cutting movies in real time. Snow White and the Huntsman was not a movie I wanted to see but I did get to see Charlize Theron trash talking Kristen Stewart (and Kstew not being able to come up with a reply). 
Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on June 14, 2018, 05:04:28 PM
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I was just saying exactly this to my friend!  I love Hall h having big events to keep 7000 plus people off the floor

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Not only does it affect the floor, but it has a cascade effect making Ballroom 20 almost impossible and crowding BCDF and down the line.


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Mel on June 14, 2018, 05:19:41 PM
I feel like everyone is getting too worked up. Things need to change year to year. We tend to get to thinking in here that once something is there one year it's gotta be every year. It's not true and has never been true. The Con needs change and new things need to come and go. I'm excited to see what's NEW rather than sit here and lament crap isn't the same every year. I'm no Chicken Little, the sky is still bright, blue and wide open.

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Title: SDCC popularity.
Post by: mickeyjack3 on June 14, 2018, 05:21:29 PM
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I feel like everyone is getting too worked up. Things need to change year to year. We tend to get to thinking in here that once something is there one year it's gotta be every year. It's not true and has never been true. The Con needs change and new things need to come and go. I'm excited to see what's NEW rather than sit here and lament crap isn't the same every year. I'm no Chicken Little, the sky is still bright, blue and wide open.

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You speak the truth. Thanks for the reminder. Keep Calm and Comic-Con
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Post by: SynXack on June 14, 2018, 05:27:42 PM
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I feel like everyone is getting too worked up. Things need to change year to year. We tend to get to thinking in here that once something is there one year it's gotta be every year. It's not true and has never been true. The Con needs change and new things need to come and go. I'm excited to see what's NEW rather than sit here and lament crap isn't the same every year. I'm no Chicken Little, the sky is still bright, blue and wide open.

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Was thinking the same thing.

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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Chris on June 14, 2018, 09:03:44 PM
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Oh man I hadn't even thought of this.  My fear was that the no shows in Hall H would make Hall H worse on the other days. Like less people on Saturday for MCU would mean more people on Friday for HBO.  But now no HBO, maybe they'll all flock to Doctor Who.  But... this could be a more accurate prediction yeah.

I've felt this way for years.  For example, on Sunday even the comic book area is very difficult to walk around and my theory is because all the people in Hall H and Ballroom 20 and those waiting in line are out on the floor.  Makes it very difficult to get around.

I guess I'm selfish, but people in hall H makes the show easier for me.  :)

I also agree with Louis-rob -m that the show is sooooooooooooooo much more than hall H. 
Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: Angel_ on June 14, 2018, 10:57:42 PM
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I've felt this way for years.  For example, on Sunday even the comic book area is very difficult to walk around and my theory is because all the people in Hall H and Ballroom 20 and those waiting in line are out on the floor.  Makes it very difficult to get around.

I guess I'm selfish, but people in hall H makes the show easier for me.  :)

I also agree with Louis-rob -m that the show is sooooooooooooooo much more than hall H.

Ohh good observation. Out of the 7 years I’ve gone I’ve only been on the floor on a day that isn’t Sunday ONCE.  I’m usually too busy with panels.  And that year I went on Sunday, too. 


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Title: Re: SDCC popularity.
Post by: vegasndn on June 15, 2018, 06:28:53 AM
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I've felt this way for years.  For example, on Sunday even the comic book area is very difficult to walk around and my theory is because all the people in Hall H and Ballroom 20 and those waiting in line are out on the floor.  Makes it very difficult to get around.

I guess I'm selfish, but people in hall H makes the show easier for me.  :)

I also agree with Louis-rob -m that the show is sooooooooooooooo much more than hall H.
I agree with this, the last couple of years on Sunday’s in artist alley there’s a lot of people and I always until last day to buy some art.


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