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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1140 on: June 21, 2021, 11:53:26 AM »
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Wow, I didn't realize that the state tracked our Flu vaccinations!

The state knows all.  When I made online accounts as part of getting my parents vaccinated, their vaccinations going back to the '50s were populated.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1141 on: June 26, 2021, 10:59:32 AM »
Israel announced that 40-50% of the people who tested positive for delta are fully vaccinated.  This correlates with the 38% number reported by another country with a high rate of vaccination.  Some dismissed that earlier report because they didn't use the MRNA vaccines even though the vaccine they used did protect from hospitalization and death.  So they must be effective.  Israel vaccinated with Pfizer.  They were among the first to report the heart problem with the Pfizer vaccine back in April.

Admittedly the number of cases in Israel is small.  But even taking that into account, such a high percentage of breakthroughs is concerning.  So much so that Israel has reinstated it's mask mandate.  Also, fully vaccinated people that are exposed to delta will need to self quarantine.

In the UK, a third of the people that die from delta are fully vaccinated.

The US is about a month away from the delta variant becoming just covid, it will be the dominant strain in the US.  I'm fully vaccinated and I'm keeping my mask on.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1142 on: June 26, 2021, 11:39:51 AM »
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Israel announced that 40-50% of the people who tested positive for delta are fully vaccinated.  This correlates with the 38% number reported by another country with a high rate of vaccination.  Some dismissed that earlier report because they didn't use the MRNA vaccines even though the vaccine they used did protect from hospitalization and death.  So they must be effective.  Israel vaccinated with Pfizer.  They were among the first to report the heart problem with the Pfizer vaccine back in April.

Admittedly the number of cases in Israel is small.  But even taking that into account, such a high percentage of breakthroughs is concerning.  So much so that Israel has reinstated it's mask mandate.  Also, fully vaccinated people that are exposed to delta will need to self quarantine.

In the UK, a third of the people that die from delta are fully vaccinated.

The US is about a month away from the delta variant becoming just covid, it will be the dominant strain in the US.  I'm fully vaccinated and I'm keeping my mask on.

Me too. 

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1143 on: June 26, 2021, 12:51:03 PM »
Sharing time, hehe!

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Overall, the vaccines work still. Anyone can go after me on this, but (again) we gotta accept that one day the virus will find us who are trying everything possible to not get it, with our shots included. Still do whatever you want to protect yourself, and continue to do so later if you want, but it will happen eventually. But also know that more treatments are being made as we speak, current vaccines work, and boosters are getting made too.

Long-haul issues even after getting vaccinated? I know someone will mention it on here. According to the scientific community, it’s rare even though the data in knowing anything regarding this topic is still very light. (Same regarding mixing certain COVID-19 vaccines to boost your immunity.) Here’s one article about a nurse and long-haulers; dissect the information as you see fit: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1144 on: June 26, 2021, 04:00:51 PM »
Here are some articles that might be of interest.

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Lastly, in a bit of irony considering the CDC's other statements, this warning.

"Because of the current situation in Seychelles, even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants."

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It's been very disappointing that US public health has been skeptical of reports from the rest of the world.  We suffer from a severe case of NDH.  This entire pandemic we've been dismissive of reports only to then announce it as if it was a new finding when we can duplicate it many months later.  For example the recent announcement about covid and brain damage.  That was first reported almost a year ago.  Time and time again this has happened.  From denying mask wearing while others in the rest of the world were screaming wear a mask to doubts that the UK(Alpha) variant was indeed a thing.  We used to lead in pandemics like this.  Now we follow.

Israel has lead in this pandemic.  They handled everything well.  Including keeping precautions up even though they had such a high vaccination rate.  They pulled that back 10 days ago.  Yesterday they realized that was a mistake in light of delta so they reversed course.  The UK did the same by postponing their reopening.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1145 on: June 26, 2021, 05:04:17 PM »
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It's been very disappointing that US public health has been skeptical of reports from the rest of the world.  We suffer from a severe case of NDH.  This entire pandemic we've been dismissive of reports only to then announce it as if it was a new finding when we can duplicate it many months later.  For example the recent announcement about covid and brain damage.  That was first reported almost a year ago.  Time and time again this has happened.  From denying mask wearing while others in the rest of the world were screaming wear a mask to doubts that the UK(Alpha) variant was indeed a thing.  We used to lead in pandemics like this.  Now we follow.
And even saying "now we follow" seems like a stretch, unfortunately...

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1146 on: June 28, 2021, 11:16:39 AM »
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“Why No One Is Sure If Delta Is Deadlier”

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“Pfizer and Moderna Vaccines Are Likely to Produce Long-Lasting Immunity, Study Suggests” 

Interesting articles. Have a great Monday, everyone!

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1147 on: June 28, 2021, 01:33:30 PM »
Delta?  That's so last week.  Delta+ is the buzz this week.

"A consortium of Indian labs involved in genome sequencing to identify and track the spread of various coronavirus variants told the government that Delta Plus appears to have three worrying characteristics: Increased transmissibility; more capacity to attack lung cells; and a potential reduction in monoclonal antibody response — or, put simply, possible resistance to vaccines and immunity gained through previous infection."

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Time will tell.  We need more data.  India, which is shell shocked from Delta, is taking it very seriously.  Others have pointed out that this additional mutation was also on other variants that were out competed by Delta.  There's a limit to how contagious it can get.
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1148 on: June 28, 2021, 06:13:24 PM »
The Delta variant is spreading in California and now makes up 14.5% of all Covid-19 positive cases in California.  However, vaccinated people are well protected against infection and illness from the Delta variant.  Los Angeles County, the nation’s most populous, has confirmed 123 Delta variant cases.  Of those, 89% of them occurred among people who were not vaccinated against Covid-19, and 2% among those who were partially vaccinated.  No one has died from the Delta variant in L.A. County.  The few fully vaccinated people who have been infected with the Delta variant “experienced relatively mild illness,” L.A. County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer said.  Almost everyone who has died in L.A. County of Covid-19 in the last six months have not been vaccinated.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1149 on: June 28, 2021, 07:58:09 PM »
Los Angeles County is urging everybody, vaccinated people included, to wear masks when indoors in public places to curb the spread of the Delta variant.  Officials still insist vaccinated people are protected.

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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1150 on: June 28, 2021, 08:49:20 PM »
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1151 on: June 29, 2021, 05:58:20 AM »
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1152 on: June 29, 2021, 08:54:17 AM »
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1153 on: June 29, 2021, 09:02:23 AM »
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Delta?  That's so last week.  Delta+ is the buzz this week.

"A consortium of Indian labs involved in genome sequencing to identify and track the spread of various coronavirus variants told the government that Delta Plus appears to have three worrying characteristics: Increased transmissibility; more capacity to attack lung cells; and a potential reduction in monoclonal antibody response — or, put simply, possible resistance to vaccines and immunity gained through previous infection."

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Time will tell.  We need more data.  India, which is shell shocked from Delta, is taking it very seriously.  Others have pointed out that this additional mutation was also on other variants that were out competed by Delta.  There's a limit to how contagious it can get.
Well, there is Paramount+, Apple TV+, and Disney+. Perhaps the virus wants to be part of the + club? A new streaming service?  ;)

Sorry, I had to do it.  :D Overall, yeah, it’s wait and see. It looks like it won’t change anything currently.

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“The So-Called Delta Plus Variant of COVID-19 Is Dangerous But Appears Unlikely to Be a Game-Changer”
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Re: Reports & check ins in the age of Covid
« Reply #1154 on: June 29, 2021, 09:27:35 AM »
There is always going to be another variant. This will never end. We have to learn how to live with it, rather than hide from it.