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Offline marcia29

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2016, 01:05:46 PM »
Wow...just...wow...


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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2016, 01:17:05 PM »
we've got a separate thread going for this-
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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2016, 01:18:18 PM »
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oh woops didn't see that thread...thanks for posting it here

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2016, 10:18:30 AM »
Rob Salkowitz  did an excellent write up on the upcoming year in Con's. I encourage folks who are interested to give it a read- the last paragraph is of particular interest.....

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2016, 12:13:55 PM »
Good article.
Maybe 2017 will be the year comic-con international will finally utilise the "international" part of their name. 😀

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2016, 03:09:54 PM »
CCI did purchase a new building in downtown San Diego and quietly moved into it. They let go of APE. It does suggest that they might be considering taking on a third con.

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2017, 07:03:42 AM »
A vendor's perspective; fascinating read:

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2017, 08:36:22 AM »
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A vendor's perspective; fascinating read:

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agreed, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and i spoke to this on the hang out Sunday, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
to my mind, the important thing is to separate the different types of conventions, Fan Fests vs Comic Con's and plan accordingly.

Rob Sulk (something) also did a good article today on ICV2, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2017, 09:15:33 AM »
a nycc table, with the right product, will get decent sales. the same product at sdcc will do very poorly. often sdcc attendees will only mob a table offering free things. two different cultures, or perhaps the giveaways have trained the old standing attendees to expect free stuff. cut out anything free, and they wont expect it after 2 years. it will just be a silly legend from times past.



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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2017, 02:46:13 PM »
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a nycc table, with the right product, will get decent sales. the same product at sdcc will do very poorly. often sdcc attendees will only mob a table offering free things. two different cultures, or perhaps the giveaways have trained the old standing attendees to expect free stuff. cut out anything free, and they wont expect it after 2 years. it will just be a silly legend from times past.



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What would be an example? I agree that a lot of SDCC attendees don't go to shop, (though I usually manage to spend enough to make up for some of them) but the vendors I talk to have a big range of experiences.

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2017, 07:51:27 PM »
fear not mark!

there are advantages, should you know them in advance. (almost the purpose of this site, no?)

the comic artists attending nycc were almost all legends these last 2 years. this is because many talk amoung themselves, and decided that nycc is far more profitable for them. this action pushed out many of the lesser known names. only room for so many. making the best collection of artists at any convention on the planet. many do not bother with sdcc at all any more.

nycc. more classic artists than gencon. that is insane.

i wonder who, or what is filling up all those slots in sdcc? "lesser" artists? more booths? more walking space?






what would the long term impact be? i dont know. but it is a interesting development.

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2017, 05:02:06 PM »
From what i have read in past, some skip cons to go to others or dont go to conventions for different reasons. so if ever try visit comic makers any or every year and say hi and chat some if possible so they know they are still valued and all. get something signed or take a pic if can. I had chance go to SDCC 2017 and made a pont to try visit or say hi to any i knew of or connected to on fb and was able to see some cause others were busy or not at booth for watever reason.

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2017, 11:43:43 PM »
Wizard World endgame?

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Wizard World’s tough year continued in Q3, with an operating loss of $1.3 million and the disclosure with its Q3 financials that "...there is substantial doubt about the company’s ability to continue as a going concern through November 2018."  The going concern opinion is tied to the company’s cash position of around $1.18 million at the end of Q3, and the company’s operating losses of over $1 million per quarter.  The company’s operating losses totaled $4.45 million for the first nine months of 2017.

After interest and the changing in value of derivative liabilities (which fluctuate depending on stock price), total losses for the quarter were $3.7 million.

Wizard World has now burned through all of the nearly $2.5 million in new financing it raised less than a year ago (see "Wizard World Secures Financing — At a Cost"), and more.  The company cited its past success at raising additional equity investment and indicated it expects to be able to raise more cash from related parties and others to fund its operations going forward.

The basic problem is that the company is spending more to mount its shows but attendance is dropping, a sign that it’s not putting together celebrity packages that draw fans as they have in the past.  Wizard World put on four shows in Q3, the same number as last year, but revenues were down over $1 million for the quarter.  We note that this phenomenon started around the time Wizard World parted ways (acrimoniously) with Steve Shamus, who’d been booking its celebrities (see "Wizard World, Stephen Shamus Settle Lawsuits").

Wizard World scaled back its plans dramatically in September and now plans to mount a total of 14 shows in 2017 and 17 in 2018 (see "Wizard Cuts Eight Shows from Planned 2017 Schedule").

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2017, 08:51:45 AM »
That bit you quoted hit the nail on the head, AzT. The guests have been lackluster and they've been moving to other sorts of guests, who aren't as big a draw. It's not a surprise that revenues are declining.

Creation (which has a similar model to Wizard World) has had problems as well, but in their case it's because their audience is declining. They have the same guests over and over again, year after year, and it's just not exciting any longer. They really need new blood (say, getting cast members from Discovery or The Orville) but they have been unable to do so (other than occasional appearances by Karl Urban).

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Re: The business of comic con's & pop culture con's
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2017, 10:46:21 AM »
This past SDCC year i made sure to check out artist alley and see what stars might be around in area where they was sorting bags and all. they didnt have many familiar stars that i realy wanted to see since check the updates and books we got free. had chance get comic signed by chance cause never know when it happen again in future. everyone goes to cons for different reasons and so some stuff that was popular before has i guess died out so traffic now as said above try get free swag, funko, wait for panels and whatever else. some stuff i tried do but wasnt able cause had to work at time so had to miss at time. i learn every year is different so i have learn to adjust and do what i can at time.