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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #315 on: May 17, 2018, 11:02:44 AM »
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I don't do the autograph lotteries at SDCC, because I prioritize my time elsewhere. But sure, I'll be entering the lotteries online, to see if I win anything. So my chances of getting an autograph have improved.

But am I happy about this? No. Because SDCC is a line culture. If people aren't lined up for the Sails in the morning, they're going to be lined up elsewhere. The Hall H lines will get longer, the offsite lines will get longer. Lines for everything else are going to go nuts.

And those are the lines in which I will be stuck. Whee. :-\

Realistically, how many people are are we talking about?  I did a limited signing draw on Friday last year (the big names were RL Stine, The Tick Cast, Steven Universe, Tobin Bell and Voltron Cast), there were maybe a few hundred in that line (between 400-500, maybe?) would be my guess (and someone may need to check on that for me as my memory can be hazy).  What numbers are people thinking try out for the WB/Fox signings?  500? 1,000? 5,000?

That Everything Else line is obscenely long whenever I line up (usually I'm lined up all the way to that little park that juts out into the Bay, one year, the line made a whole loop around it). So if people transfer to another line inside the convention center, I probably wouldn't notice.


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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #316 on: May 17, 2018, 01:42:46 PM »
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At WonderCon it was strictly WonderCon merch, but WonderCon doesn't have exclusive madness like SDCC. What screenshot made you think they would not include things like Funko or Lego? Was it the one with the old verbiage leftover from WonderCon that hasn't been updated?

What made you think it would include Lego or Funko? That logic cuts both ways. You say  “updated language” I say the language is already updated since the portal shouldn’t have been open at all. It also didn’t say wondercon. It said comic con 2018. 🤷‍♂️ only the terms and conditions weren’t updated. There’s nothing indicating all exclusives will be going lotto.


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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #317 on: May 17, 2018, 05:15:58 PM »
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NYCC had a system where people were limited to 2 major events and 2 minor events a day and half of the spots at panels were still first come first serve.  It wasn't perfect by any means but I got almost everything I really wanted eventually (even the lego exclusive).

I got nothing in the lotteries. I was able to get into the Main Stage panels I wanted by lining up. Granted, Main Stage is about half the size of Hall H. But I got nothing in the lotteries. Still better than waiting in line.

I can tell you this. I'll definitely enter autograph lotteries, and I'll be happy about it. I've not lined up for the autograph draw since my first con because I'm poor and spending an obscene amount of money for my hotel room and I'm sleeping in it. So this is one person who won't be using the opportunity to line up anywhere else, because I don't line up anyway.
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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #318 on: May 17, 2018, 07:33:05 PM »
Just guessing if they do the lottery for any or all things then i be kinda shocked i see no lines in back cause it has basically removed the need for any long lines to see or get anything. and it does make or give everyone more time to check out what is at the con for the year. and hope con goers are happier if not already that they was able to see more and get more swag/ freebies they may have missed cause they was waiting in line all day for anything.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #319 on: May 18, 2018, 10:09:27 AM »
From a business standpoint-- a lot of the same people go for signings, while tens of thousands of people either do not know about it or do not want to deal with the headache.  This is bad business as your not marketing to your full potential audience. All of these signings and even panels are marketing ploys by an organization or television/movie studio. If the same people continue to receive the benefit (i.e. signing or viewing) then the marketing is ineffective as no new consumers are being reached. Hence, by creating the online lottery new individuals are able to receive the benefit thus potentially broadening the audience for the company.

For example, I would never have gone for the Black Lightning signing at WonderCon normally. However, I did and was unsuccessful. Even though I was unsuccessful I wanted to know more about the show and am now watching it.  If I won the lottery and got the benefit of the signing-- I probably would be an even bigger fan.

I recognize that the online lottery system flat out sucks for the people that know how to do signings and have been doing it for years. However, it does present a better opportunity for others. I would not be surprised that this is just a trial run for what is to come for Hall H.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #320 on: May 18, 2018, 10:25:17 AM »
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From a business standpoint-- a lot of the same people go for signings, while tens of thousands of people either do not know about it or do not want to deal with the headache.  This is bad business as your not marketing to your full potential audience. All of these signings and even panels are marketing ploys by an organization or television/movie studio. If the same people continue to receive the benefit (i.e. signing or viewing) then the marketing is ineffective as no new consumers are being reached. Hence, by creating the online lottery new individuals are able to receive the benefit thus potentially broadening the audience for the company.

For example, I would never have gone for the Black Lightning signing at WonderCon normally. However, I did and was unsuccessful. Even though I was unsuccessful I wanted to know more about the show and am now watching it.  If I won the lottery and got the benefit of the signing-- I probably would be an even bigger fan.

I recognize that the online lottery system flat out sucks for the people that know how to do signings and have been doing it for years. However, it does present a better opportunity for others. I would not be surprised that this is just a trial run for what is to come for Hall H.

That's an interesting point about the marketing aspects to different approaches, and makes me wonder how the pitch was made to get a new process in place.

Personally I'm mixed on the whole thing. As others have pointed out the lines are such a part of the sdcc culture, and I hate to see things like that go away. I just hope whatever they end up with works and is done fairly.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #321 on: May 18, 2018, 10:27:20 AM »
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What made you think it would include Lego or Funko? That logic cuts both ways. You say  “updated language” I say the language is already updated since the portal shouldn’t have been open at all. It also didn’t say wondercon. It said comic con 2018. 🤷‍♂️ only the terms and conditions weren’t updated. There’s nothing indicating all exclusives will be going lotto.


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What makes me think it is because they call it the "exclusives" portal and they never called it that when all they sold was their preorder merch did they? Also, because none of these companies enjoy having to staff Sails distribution and come up with ticketing solutions and have been asking CCI for lottery for years. These companies have been handling their business at the other big Cons with lotteries for a couple years now.

As an aside, I don't think this necessarily increases Hall H lines. You pretty much have to choose autograph or panel since the autograph sessions are either immediately before or immediately after a panel and take long enough that I wouldn't personally feel comfy risking it with a bathroom pass as they can often be delayed making you late or they get cut off and people who show up late don't get in even with a wristband.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #322 on: May 18, 2018, 10:44:11 AM »
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As an aside, I don't think this necessarily increases Hall H lines. You pretty much have to choose autograph or panel since the autograph sessions are either immediately before or immediately after a panel and take long enough that I wouldn't personally feel comfy risking it with a bathroom pass as they can often be delayed making you late or they get cut off and people who show up late don't get in even with a wristband.

I think people mean it will just increase the overnight Hall H lines, since previously you had to choose between the "Hall H" and "Everything Else" lines to camp in. So all the people who were only in the EE line for autograph drawings will now be somewhere else, and some of them will be in the H line.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #323 on: May 18, 2018, 11:00:58 AM »
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I think people mean it will just increase the overnight Hall H lines, since previously you had to choose between the "Hall H" and "Everything Else" lines to camp in. So all the people who were only in the EE line for autograph drawings will now be somewhere else, and some of them will be in the H line.

I agree with this.  While I have always gone the other way (prioritize panels above autos), people who have prioritized autos above panels don't have to make that choice now.

If autos are after panels, you don't have to choose.  You can go from one directly to the other.  If it's before that gets tricky because you risk the room being full.
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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #324 on: May 18, 2018, 11:12:47 AM »
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What makes me think it is because they call it the "exclusives" portal and they never called it that when all they sold was their preorder merch did they? Also, because none of these companies enjoy having to staff Sails distribution and come up with ticketing solutions and have been asking CCI for lottery for years. These companies have been handling their business at the other big Cons with lotteries for a couple years now.

As an aside, I don't think this necessarily increases Hall H lines. You pretty much have to choose autograph or panel since the autograph sessions are either immediately before or immediately after a panel and take long enough that I wouldn't personally feel comfy risking it with a bathroom pass as they can often be delayed making you late or they get cut off and people who show up late don't get in even with a wristband.

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I believe that’s exactly what they called it at wondercon “exclusives” that is. I don’t think their personal wants really factor into what SDCC decides as they’ve shown previously they march to the beat of their own drum. Ultimately it’s speculation but I’m defering to SDCC blog here and their history is pretty good on this stuff 🤷‍♂️


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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #325 on: May 18, 2018, 01:31:19 PM »
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I believe that’s exactly what they called it at wondercon “exclusives” that is. I don’t think their personal wants really factor into what SDCC decides as they’ve shown previously they march to the beat of their own drum. Ultimately it’s speculation but I’m defering to SDCC blog here and their history is pretty good on this stuff 🤷‍♂️


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I defer to no one because this is all speculation and as I said, there are no big exclusives at WonderCon, ever, you can't go by how they used it there and apply it to SDCC. Also, a great deal of whatever the blog posts is stuff I saw here first. There is no magical connection over there that is privvy to anything we don't know and they have often been wrong. Last year's hotel sale date comes immediately to mind.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #326 on: May 18, 2018, 01:34:14 PM »
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I defer to no one because this is all speculation and as I said, there are no big exclusives at WonderCon, ever, you can't go by how they used it there and apply it to SDCC. Also, a great deal of whatever the blog posts is stuff I saw here first. There is no magical connection over there that is privvy to anything we don't know and they have often been wrong. Last year's hotel sale date comes immediately to mind.

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You realize lawboysam cross posts some stuff right because she runs sdcc blog? And they do have some sources we don’t have here. They break news all the time; case in point the bait booth pop.


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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #327 on: May 18, 2018, 01:42:17 PM »
SDCC Blog is usually right but on a few rare occasions they announce something that turns out to be false.
Like they said on Twitter there would be signings for Krypton and Lucifer at Wondercon and there weren't.
Actually they made a blog post about it here:
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I actually spoke to Comic Con staff at Wondercon and they said no lottery for SDCC until 2019.
But of course they might have changed their minds.
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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #328 on: May 18, 2018, 01:42:53 PM »
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You realize lawboysam cross posts some stuff right because she runs sdcc blog? And they do have some sources we don’t have here. They break news all the time; case in point the bait booth pop.


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I've been around here a long time. I know who she is. She was a modertor here first and she's here reading every day. Things we say here end up there. Which is fine, I'm just saying it's not a special source on anything when it comes to what is going on inside CCI.

Also, CCI absolutely DOES care what their vendors think and want. Especially the big ones.

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Re: A new auto signing procedure for the WB at SDCC?
« Reply #329 on: May 18, 2018, 01:47:45 PM »
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I've been around here a long time. I know who she is. She was a modertor here first and she's here reading every day. Things we say here end up there. Which is fine, I'm just saying it's not a special source on anything when it comes to what is going on inside CCI.

Also, CCI absolutely DOES care what their vendors think and want. Especially the big ones.

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I’m not going to argue with you here because ultimately we dont agree but we’re both coming from logical places based on the info we have. I think it’s pretty clear that at least for this year there won’t be a lottery for SDCC exclusives. Phrasing; history; and statements by people like godolphin above lead me to believe that. You have equally valid reasons. Well know in 60 Days or less 🧐


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